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Title: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2008, 08:47:15 AM
what he did went beyond the pale!
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2008, 08:54:18 AM
Open forum.  He isn't banned.  Why is The Who here?  His very presence on the forum proves he's a liar.  Scout's honor, he said, I'm gone from Fornits.  Like pernicious anemia, he's still here. 
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: psy on August 04, 2008, 08:54:59 AM
Quote from: "??"
what he did went beyond the pale!
He was never kicked off.  If you've been around here for long, you'd know that there are a lot of people around here a lot of others wouldnt' care for.  Who cares.  Stick to the issues and ignore the distractions.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2008, 04:01:03 PM
WORSE, why is zenagent--someone who used his powers to get ccmgirl's info allowed to be a mod here?
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2008, 04:49:35 PM
Quote from: "DAS"
WORSE, why is zenagent--someone who used his powers to get ccmgirl's info allowed to be a mod here?


Why are you allowed to breed?
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2008, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: "AMRAM'S LESSER SON"
Quote from: "DAS"
WORSE, why is zenagent--someone who used his powers to get ccmgirl's info allowed to be a mod here?


Why are you allowed to breed?
I'm rubber! You're glue!
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2008, 07:54:59 PM
1. echo psy.. he was never banned
2. because he wanted to come back

I'm amazed, I would have washed my hands of this site forever after all of that mess.

Interwebs drama is the 5ux0r5... but I still liek mudkips.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on August 04, 2008, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: "psy"

Quote
He was never kicked off.  If you've been around here for long, you'd know that there are a lot of people around here a lot of others wouldnt' care for.  Who cares.  Stick to the issues and ignore the distractions.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Antigen on August 06, 2008, 09:15:44 AM
Hey, know those people who say I hate to say I told ya so? Liares, every one.

Psy, did I pretty much call it w/ the Who? Yeah, sure, go ahead and do the ban dance one more time if you really feel you must. But, at the end of the number, either we have  free open speech or a controlled closed circle. There are plenty of controled forums of every variety in Cyberia and the real world. Who needs one more?

So yeah, Che is "allowed" here because his mama doesn't work here.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: seamus on August 06, 2008, 09:24:22 AM
bumpity fuckin bump bump cause his mama dont work here.........
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on August 06, 2008, 02:11:53 PM
Are you a Steven King fan, Seamus?

I HAVE MISSED CHES BRAIN!!
Che knows some really cool shit...
on the other hand, theWho knows some really cool shit too.
But you're reading along and he goes off to 'whoville' and
TOTALLY aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!
Can't read his stuff   :'(

There might be folks who want to see you or me just 'go away'.
Fact is Antigen is right.
I have serious issues w/Geo Bush.  I would never want 'the rights'
he's in the process of raping denied to him. (But I think
'little Bush' is one of us - genetically challenged)
After all the rights violations we have been witness to
and the victims of, how could you support the violation
(by denying them free speech) of another's-for any reason?
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2008, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: "3xsaSeedling"
Are you a Steven King fan, Seamus?

I HAVE MISSED CHES BRAIN!!
Che knows some really cool shit...
on the other hand, theWho knows some really cool shit too.
But you're reading along and he goes off to 'whoville' and
TOTALLY aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!
Can't read his stuff   :'(

There might be folks who want to see you or me just 'go away'.
Fact is Antigen is right.
I have serious issues w/Geo Bush.  I would never want 'the rights'
he's in the process of raping denied to him. (But I think
'little Bush' is one of us - genetically challenged)
After all the rights violations we have been witness to
and the victims of, how could you support the violation
(by denying them free speech) of another's-for any reason?



To keep them from doing it again?
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2008, 02:48:53 PM
(http://http://jasonjeffrey.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/che_dead.gif)
(http://http://www.farmsex.es/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/13.jpg)
(http://www.pornocore2.com/pictures/analbarn_main.jpg)
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2008, 03:49:56 PM
Wow!  Che was fucked to death by a horse! Or did he blow it and get literally skull fucked? Bonus either way!  Catherine the Great got nothing on him.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Che Gookin on August 06, 2008, 04:16:57 PM
I'd go for the blonde being humped by the dog myself, just not after or during her session with the mutt. Can't say I fancy a rogering from a horse.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
is it next week already?

You should be happy with the horse, at least you wouldn't have to pay it to fuck you.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2008, 05:07:10 PM
Nothing shuts down the shout box like the appearance of che hole.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Guest on August 06, 2008, 07:06:18 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
is it next week already?

You should be happy with the horse, at least you wouldn't have to pay it to fuck you.

Well, at least he's no zenagent, with a  job so shitty- working in a crap "custom fabrications" shop- and a soul so foul he refers to Sheppard Pratt and sexually harasses and "outs" survivors so I'm happy to have him back. You are too. How else would you get the opportunity to vocalize your bestiality fantasies?

Hello che. Welcome back to the land of anonymous trolls and fairy princesses. 
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Guest on August 06, 2008, 07:09:25 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Nothing shuts down the shout box like the appearance of che hole.

nothing shuts down posting on fornits- period- like having zenagent moderate after outing a survivor by accessing the personal info she gave out in her PM's or when she registered. How's that for class, not to mention making fornits seem a safe place to post?
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2008, 09:06:46 PM
Oh Zen where are you? Please come out to play. PLEASE
We miss you so much and the only way we can get your attention is to post  little things that might upset you.

Zen?

Zen Agent?

We are having popsicles, and after that we will chase lovely hares in the meadows. We will jump and skip and frolic and when we get to the sea we shall play Pirates!!
HOOPLA!!
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2008, 09:53:33 PM
Quote from: "Antigen"
Hey, know those people who say I hate to say I told ya so? Liares, every one.

Psy, did I pretty much call it w/ the Who? Yeah, sure, go ahead and do the ban dance one more time if you really feel you must. But, at the end of the number, either we have  free open speech or a controlled closed circle. There are plenty of controled forums of every variety in Cyberia and the real world. Who needs one more?

So yeah, Che is "allowed" here because his mama doesn't work here.



Speaking of which,  people who out survivors can continue moderating? As you may have heard, it's been mentioned once or twice: zenagent outed ccm.

Ask Zen to link to the original post where he threatened to post ccm's complete info. In the bury the carcass thread, he posts he's going to delete the info he put up about ccm, then he announces he did so, so he knows where it's located.

He won't link because the thread  proves what he did.

Or maybe no one responded to his post, so he deleted it entirely, and it really doesn't exist anymore? I don't know. Anyway...it's kinda disrespectful for him to still be a moderator here, especially of the "safe forum."

...but I guess your feeling is buyer beware, right?
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on August 06, 2008, 11:04:22 PM
If you are so offended by the practices of the admins
and moderators of this website, WHY ARE YOU POSTING HERE???
 :blabla:
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2008, 11:46:20 PM
Ignore 3xsaSeedling, a typical kiss ass poster if there ever were one. I agree something must be done about ZenAgent, the corrupt moderator preying on survivors. Until this issue is resolved, many people will feel unsafe posting here.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on August 07, 2008, 12:19:04 AM
thankyou     :moon:
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 01:06:35 AM
Quote from: "nambla"
Ignore 3xsaSeedling, a typical kiss ass poster if there ever were one. I agree something must be done about ZenAgent, the corrupt moderator preying on survivors. Until this issue is resolved, many people will feel unsafe posting here.

It's true. Sorry, it just hasn't been the same since then.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 09:06:27 AM
Quote from: "yesyesyes"
Quote from: "nambla"
Ignore 3xsaSeedling, a typical kiss ass poster if there ever were one. I agree something must be done about ZenAgent, the corrupt moderator preying on survivors. Until this issue is resolved, many people will feel unsafe posting here.

It's true. Sorry, it just hasn't been the same since then.

We can repost where che posted zen's daughter's info while pretending to be a WWASP survivor.  Lying fucker.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 09:11:46 AM
Or we can get back to the business of shutting programs down and avoid this programmie-inspired drama.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 09:19:09 AM
Quote from: "jyijkjyiij"
Or we can get back to the business of shutting programs down and avoid this programmie-inspired drama.

You've got programmies all over the boards accusing  causing them the biggest problems of all manner of shit, and now they want to push their main piglet back in to circulation.  Fuck che fuck thewho.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: psy on August 07, 2008, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: "jyijkjyiij"
Or we can get back to the business of shutting programs down and avoid this programmie-inspired drama.

^^^THIS

This issue has been addressed many many times.  Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations and continue getting down to the business of shutting down programs (something the resident programmie trolls would rather not happen, preferring to play forum members against each other with baseless false accusations in order to create a climate of fear.)

Chaff. All this is:  chaff (link) (http://http://fornits.com/smf/http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=312118#p312118).  <-- Read.  Highly pertinent.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 11:35:23 AM
We don't care if zen did anything wrong or not!  We want him GONE!  Do it!
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 11:54:03 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
We don't care if zen did anything wrong or not!  We want him GONE!  Do it!

Exactly.  Trolling by the book.

http://causestalking.net/ (http://causestalking.net/)

Cause stalking is performed by extremist and anti-government groups. Targets include activists, the enemies of politicians and the corporations they work for, whistle blowers, Public Officials, and Doctors who perform abortions. They also select targets of opportunity. These are not enemies of the group, but are selected, based on their vulnerability. Stalking groups can be as large as hundreds of people. Targets are subjected to harassment campaigns, break-ins, staged incidents, vandalism, etc. Their M.O. is 1.Identify, 2 Vilify, 3 Nullify 4 Destroy. This book is a guide for victims on how to get rid of these people. Visit CauseStalking.Net.



1.Identify
2 Vilify
3 Nullify
4 Destroy

sound familiar?
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: "psy"

Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations

Well, it's official. Fornits administrators support a moderator parent on their forum which threatens and then outs survivors and their families names, information and background checks. I thought it was suspicious all those threads about ZenAgent disappeared, but now it's clear why, because they needed to cover it up.

ZenAgent outed a survivor and her families information because he is angry and hates survivors who don't agree with him on every point. He also recommends programs via PM and even on the forum that he thinks are "safe". This website is now discredited just like many other so called anti program websites. Let's get this straight, it's always been discredited amongst programmies and most parents. Now it's discredited amongst survivors.

For those who still think ZenAgent is telling the truth. PM him and ask him if he posted CCM's and husbands names and threatened to release their background check. That way, when he lies to you directly, and one day you will find out it is a lie according to a source of mine, you will know he is a liar. Do it, PM him right now and then soon you will find out he lied directly to you. Might change your mind about how safe fornits then.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 12:05:49 PM
Quote from: "Discredited"

Well, it's official.................blah blah blah blah blah......endless bullshit.....blah blah blah blah



YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO IS BOTHERED BY THIS.  If it really does bother you this much, you don't have to come around here. 
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 12:15:19 PM
Quote from: "Discredited"
Quote from: "psy"

Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations

Well, it's official. Fornits administrators support a moderator parent on their forum which threatens and then outs survivors and their families names, information and background checks. I thought it was suspicious all those threads about ZenAgent disappeared, but now it's clear why, because they needed to cover it up.

ZenAgent outed a survivor and her families information because he is angry and hates survivors who don't agree with him on every point. He also recommends programs via PM and even on the forum that he thinks are "safe". This website is now discredited just like many other so called anti program websites. Let's get this straight, it's always been discredited amongst programmies and most parents. Now it's discredited amongst survivors.

For those who still think ZenAgent is telling the truth. PM him and ask him if he posted CCM's and husbands names and threatened to release their background check. That way, when he lies to you directly, and one day you will find out it is a lie according to a source of mine, you will know he is a liar. Do it, PM him right now and then soon you will find out he lied directly to you. Might change your mind about how safe fornits then.

1.Identify
2 Vilify
3 Nullify
4 Destroy


AND YOU'RE NOT DOING TOO WELL AT ALL.  YOU'RE STARTING TO SOUND BITCHY ND DESPERATE, WITH YOUR "DO IT'S".
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 12:23:01 PM
Quote from: "Discredited"
Quote from: "psy"

Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations

Well, it's official. Fornits administrators support a moderator parent on their forum which threatens and then outs survivors and their families names, information and background checks. I thought it was suspicious all those threads about ZenAgent disappeared, but now it's clear why, because they needed to cover it up.

ZenAgent outed a survivor and her families information because he is angry and hates survivors who don't agree with him on every point. He also recommends programs via PM and even on the forum that he thinks are "safe". This website is now discredited just like many other so called anti program websites. Let's get this straight, it's always been discredited amongst programmies and most parents. Now it's discredited amongst survivors.

For those who still think ZenAgent is telling the truth. PM him and ask him if he posted CCM's and husbands names and threatened to release their background check. That way, when he lies to you directly, and one day you will find out it is a lie according to a source of mine, you will know he is a liar. Do it, PM him right now and then soon you will find out he lied directly to you. Might change your mind about how safe fornits then.

TROLLS MAKE:

Demands for (always unspecified) evidence: The troll will say that the victim hasn't offered enough evidence, that his sources are no good etc. and demand more evidence. The demands will always be open ended so that actually satisfying the troll's request for more evidence will be impossible.

Psy tells you that there's no evidence to back your claims, and see above.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: "Discredited"
Quote from: "psy"

Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations

Well, it's official. Fornits administrators support a moderator parent on their forum which threatens and then outs survivors and their families names, information and background checks. I thought it was suspicious all those threads about ZenAgent disappeared, but now it's clear why, because they needed to cover it up.

ZenAgent outed a survivor and her families information because he is angry and hates survivors who don't agree with him on every point. He also recommends programs via PM and even on the forum that he thinks are "safe". This website is now discredited just like many other so called anti program websites. Let's get this straight, it's always been discredited amongst programmies and most parents. Now it's discredited amongst survivors.

For those who still think ZenAgent is telling the truth. PM him and ask him if he posted CCM's and husbands names and threatened to release their background check. That way, when he lies to you directly, and one day you will find out it is a lie according to a source of mine, you will know he is a liar. Do it, PM him right now and then soon you will find out he lied directly to you. Might change your mind about how safe fornits then.

Troll, the only people "outed" on this forum were zen's family, and that evidence is everywhere on the forum.  You always seem to leave that out of your rants.  It doesn't fit your agenda.  That's why you're a troll.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Guest on August 07, 2008, 07:08:06 PM
Quote from: "psy"
Quote from: "jyijkjyiij"
Or we can get back to the business of shutting programs down and avoid this programmie-inspired drama.

^^^THIS

This issue has been addressed many many times.  Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations and continue getting down to the business of shutting down programs (something the resident programmie trolls would rather not happen, preferring to play forum members against each other with baseless false accusations in order to create a climate of fear.)

Chaff. All this is:  chaff (link) (http://http://fornits.com/smf/http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=312118#p312118).  <-- Read.  Highly pertinent.

This has been addressed to death, yes. And in the end, maybe it doesn't matter so much because one can use proxies, and not give out personal info to anyone.

 But yes, he did get her name, address, husbands name, and post it. He also threatened to get the cops to go after her, as "he already has her adress." Psy, you know he said that. Are you going to deny that?

Seriously,pys, ask him to link to the post. He won't; even though he has stated over and over that it exists, just not with all of ccm's info, because he doesn't want people to see what he did.

Ask him how he got ccm's info in the first place--his story has changed so much over time. First  google, now he claims he doesn't even know it. Why does he keep changing his story if he's telling the truth? 

CCM has told you she saw it. Why would she lie? I saw it-- i know you have no reason to believe me, you don't know me, but tons of "corroboration" has been produced (he lied saying there never was an original when asked why he wouldn't link to it, then backtracked) which was erased in the last forum shut down.

Do whatever you want, of course, but it did happen
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 07:12:15 PM
Quote from: "most are trolls,not all"
Quote from: "psy"
Quote from: "jyijkjyiij"
Or we can get back to the business of shutting programs down and avoid this programmie-inspired drama.

^^^THIS

This issue has been addressed many many times.  Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations and continue getting down to the business of shutting down programs (something the resident programmie trolls would rather not happen, preferring to play forum members against each other with baseless false accusations in order to create a climate of fear.)

Chaff. All this is:  chaff (link) (http://http://fornits.com/smf/http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=312118#p312118).  <-- Read.  Highly pertinent.

This has been addressed to death, yes. And in the end, maybe it doesn't matter so much because one can use proxies, and not give out personal info to anyone.

 But yes, he did get her name, address, husbands name, and post it. He also threatened to get the cops to go after her, as "he already has her adress." Psy, you know he said that. Are you going to deny that?

Seriously,pys, ask him to link to the post. He won't; even though he has stated over and over that it exists, just not with all of ccm's info, because he doesn't want people to see what he did.

Ask him how he got ccm's info in the first place--his story has changed so much over time. First  google, now he claims he doesn't even know it. Why does he keep changing his story if he's telling the truth? 

CCM has told you she saw it. Why would she lie? I saw it-- i know you have no reason to believe me, you don't know me, but tons of "corroboration" has been produced (he lied saying there never was an original when asked why he wouldn't link to it, then backtracked) which was erased in the last forum shut down.

Do whatever you want, of course, but it did happen

Troll, the only people "outed" on this forum were zen's family, and that evidence is everywhere on the forum.  You always seem to leave that out of your rants.  It doesn't fit your agenda.  That's why you're a troll.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 07:15:19 PM
Quote from: "most are trolls,not all"

Do whatever you want, of course, but it did happen

Of course it did NOT.  Strange how only CCM and the who claim to have seen it.  Not too credible in the registered user department.

Go back to posting your porn, asswipe.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 07:16:55 PM
Troll, the only people "outed" on this forum were zen's family, and that evidence is everywhere on the forum.  You always seem to leave that out of your rants.  It doesn't fit your agenda.  That's why you're a troll.

and apparently also an idiot intent on driving a stupid STUPID topic NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT into the ground.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Guest on August 07, 2008, 07:20:16 PM
Quote from: "Discredited"
Quote from: "psy"

Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations

Well, it's official. Fornits administrators support a moderator parent on their forum which threatens and then outs survivors and their families names, information and background checks. I thought it was suspicious all those threads about ZenAgent disappeared, but now it's clear why, because they needed to cover it up.

ZenAgent outed a survivor and her families information because he is angry and hates survivors who don't agree with him on every point. He also recommends programs via PM and even on the forum that he thinks are "safe". This website is now discredited just like many other so called anti program websites. Let's get this straight, it's always been discredited amongst programmies and most parents. Now it's discredited amongst survivors.

For those who still think ZenAgent is telling the truth. PM him and ask him if he posted CCM's and husbands names and threatened to release their background check. That way, when he lies to you directly, and one day you will find out it is a lie according to a source of mine, you will know he is a liar. Do it, PM him right now and then soon you will find out he lied directly to you. Might change your mind about how safe fornits then.

 Are you a pro-program troll, or just a general troll? I guess the latter because programmies don't call themselves "programmies."

 I get it. You like that zenagent sought out and posted personal info of a survivor for kicks. Nothing's going to be done about it, so can the low quality duplicity and enjoy.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Guest on August 07, 2008, 07:27:59 PM
Quote from: "TROLL BUSTER"
Quote from: "most are trolls,not all"

Do whatever you want, of course, but it did happen

Of course it did NOT.  Strange how only CCM and the who claim to have seen it.  Not too credible in the registered user department.

Go back to posting your porn, asswipe.

You make a lot of incorrect assumptions and your unprovoked abusiveness kinda supports my point. ccm is credible. Castle saw it too, if I'm not mistaken.

Besides, don't you remember, nutso, before you were saying that  that Zen found/posted her info because he was "fighting back" and it was o.k. cause she was too dumb to know how to hide her info.

Try to be more consistent with your bullshit.

Think I'm lying? Ask him to link to his original post. He won't even though up in the bury carcass he announces he's going to edit it, then that he did. He knew where it was then, but not now. How convenient!
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Guest on August 07, 2008, 07:29:14 PM
Quote from: "3xsaSeedling"
If you are so offended by the practices of the admins
and moderators of this website, WHY ARE YOU POSTING HERE???
 :blabla:


Good point. WHo am i to bitch. The guy who was rude to you wasn't me.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Guest on August 07, 2008, 07:32:06 PM
Quote from: "hh"
Quote from: "Antigen"
Hey, know those people who say I hate to say I told ya so? Liares, every one.

Psy, did I pretty much call it w/ the Who? Yeah, sure, go ahead and do the ban dance one more time if you really feel you must. But, at the end of the number, either we have  free open speech or a controlled closed circle. There are plenty of controled forums of every variety in Cyberia and the real world. Who needs one more?

So yeah, Che is "allowed" here because his mama doesn't work here.



Speaking of which,  people who out survivors can continue moderating? As you may have heard, it's been mentioned once or twice: zenagent outed ccm.

Ask Zen to link to the original post where he threatened to post ccm's complete info. In the bury the carcass thread, he posts he's going to delete the info he put up about ccm, then he announces he did so, so he knows where it's located.

He won't link because the thread  proves what he did.

Or maybe no one responded to his post, so he deleted it entirely, and it really doesn't exist anymore? I don't know. Anyway...it's kinda disrespectful for him to still be a moderator here, especially of the "safe forum."

...but I guess your feeling is buyer beware, right?


THIS
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on August 07, 2008, 07:50:25 PM
[/quote]

Of course it did NOT.  Strange how only CCM and the who claim to have seen it.  Not too credible in the registered user department.

Go back to posting your porn, asswipe.
[/quote]


Oh really, you're saying I'm not credible? Ouch that hurts! LOL!!!!!! The sad thing is, I am one of only a handful of posters registered here on Fornits that is credible. At least in the 3 forums I frequent, and sometimes post in. I've never lied. If I have please enlighten me.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on August 07, 2008, 07:51:50 PM
And I am also one of the few here that doesn't do the quote thing right!!!!!!!
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 08:11:07 PM
Quote from: "asd"
Quote from: "TROLL BUSTER"
Quote from: "most are trolls,not all"

Do whatever you want, of course, but it did happen

Of course it did NOT.  Strange how only CCM and the who claim to have seen it.  Not too credible in the registered user department.

Go back to posting your porn, asswipe.

You make a lot of incorrect assumptions and your unprovoked abusiveness kinda supports my point. ccm is credible. Castle saw it too, if I'm not mistaken.

Besides, don't you remember, nutso, before you were saying that  that Zen found/posted her info because he was "fighting back" and it was o.k. cause she was too dumb to know how to hide her info.

Try to be more consistent with your bullshit.

Think I'm lying? Ask him to link to his original post. He won't even though up in the bury carcass he announces he's going to edit it, then that he did. He knew where it was then, but not now. How convenient!

nutso? only people from the bronx say nutso.
Castle n Muldoon

someone missing a nutsack nutso?
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Guest on August 07, 2008, 08:34:40 PM
Quote from: "CCM girl 1989"


Of course it did NOT.  Strange how only CCM and the who claim to have seen it.  Not too credible in the registered user department.

Go back to posting your porn, asswipe.
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Oh really, you're saying I'm not credible? Ouch that hurts! LOL!!!!!! The sad thing is, I am one of only a handful of posters registered here on Fornits that is credible. At least in the 3 forums I frequent, and sometimes post in. I've never lied. If I have please enlighten me.



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Exactly. In fact zen and his pack of anon, semi-literate hyenas keep changing their story--they're not credible.

 Zen also claims to "bluff" lie a lot. He's now saying knowing your husband's name was a "bluff" so--there's the credibility issue sorted.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Guest on August 07, 2008, 08:38:58 PM
Quote from: "FASF"


Speaking of which,  people who out survivors can continue moderating? As you may have heard, it's been mentioned once or twice: zenagent outed ccm.

Ask Zen to link to the original post where he threatened to post ccm's complete info. In the bury the carcass thread, he posts he's going to delete the info he put up about ccm, then he announces he did so, so he knows where it's located.

He won't link because the thread  proves what he did.

Or maybe no one responded to his post, so he deleted it entirely, and it really doesn't exist anymore? I don't know. Anyway...it's kinda disrespectful for him to still be a moderator here, especially of the "safe forum."

...but I guess your feeling is buyer beware, right?

this
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: psy on August 07, 2008, 08:46:02 PM
Quote from: "WISHER"
Quote from: "FASF"


Speaking of which,  people who out survivors can continue moderating? As you may have heard, it's been mentioned once or twice: zenagent outed ccm.

Ask Zen to link to the original post where he threatened to post ccm's complete info. In the bury the carcass thread, he posts he's going to delete the info he put up about ccm, then he announces he did so, so he knows where it's located.

He won't link because the thread  proves what he did.

Or maybe no one responded to his post, so he deleted it entirely, and it really doesn't exist anymore? I don't know. Anyway...it's kinda disrespectful for him to still be a moderator here, especially of the "safe forum."

...but I guess your feeling is buyer beware, right?

this

You're reversing the burden of proof on Zen.  It's not up to him to bring evidence against himself.  As it stands, there is no evidence he did anything wrong (and i've looked into it).  If you have proof (which nobody has ever been able to present) that:...

A: Zen posted accurate information about CCM
AND
B: Zen obtained this information through an his position as a moderator (impossible since Zen never had access to IP address info, even if he did it would still require a subpoena.  PMs are inaccessable even to admins, and CCM's personal info was available to a google search (her fault))

... something might be done about it (such as removing his mod status). 

otherwise

SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 08:52:52 PM
It's funny to watch them keep denying it. How many people saw the post and are reading this now and realize how corrupt this forum really is? I saw the discussion take place and saw the whole thing go down. ZenAgent indeed did make the threatening post in question, and then spent a couple days afterwards explaining why he did it. All people have to do is read the thread, and it's obvious how it went down. But people rather bury their head in the sand, than realize they supported someone who hunts down survivors personal information to humiliate them in open forum.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: psy on August 07, 2008, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: "donny darko"
It's funny to watch them keep denying it. How many people saw the post and are reading this now and realize how corrupt this forum really is? I saw the discussion take place and saw the whole thing go down. ZenAgent indeed did make the threatening post in question, and then spent a couple days afterwards explaining why he did it. All people have to do is read the thread, and it's obvious how it went down. But people rather bury their head in the sand, than realize they supported someone who hunts down survivors personal information to humiliate them in open forum.
You're reversing the burden of proof on Zen.  It's not up to him to bring evidence against himself.  As it stands, there is no evidence he did anything wrong (and i've looked into it).  If you have proof (which nobody has ever been able to present) that:...

A: Zen posted accurate information about CCM
AND
B: Zen obtained this information through an his position as a moderator (impossible since Zen never had access to IP address info, even if he did it would still require a subpoena.  PMs are inaccessable even to admins, and CCM's personal info was available to a google search (her fault))

... something might be done about it (such as removing his mod status). 

otherwise

SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Che Gookin on August 07, 2008, 08:59:00 PM
Errrr...

So does anyone want to know what wonderful things I've learned reading Sue's book? Just ask.. I'll be happy to discuss it after I stop dry heaving.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Guest on August 07, 2008, 09:08:52 PM
Uh, this isn't a court of law where "zen shouldn't bring evidence against himself."

 The thing is, zen said he would go back and edit out ccms' info in the "carcass" thread, so he knows where the original post is:

Quote from: "ZenAgent"

DON'T ask for what you DON'T WANT....I've got as many boundaries as you, who.  Obviously.[…]

Share your "information".

Now I'll honor my end and delete the above.

He also wrote how he edited it “without being asked to,”

 
Quote from: "ZenAgent"
I edited CCM's name out of the post without anyone asking me to do it.


So just ask him to link to it. Then you can find what he had there originally, and if he didn't post anything that will prove it.

He won't do it cause he knows what he wrote...whatever.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: 3xsaSeedling on August 07, 2008, 09:21:44 PM
Quote from: "psy"


SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP



bump
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 09:32:39 PM
The irony of posting "shut the fuck up" on an internet discussion board is too much.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 09:53:54 PM
Quote from: "DFA"

Uh, this isn't a court of law where "zen shouldn't bring evidence against himself."

 The thing is, zen said he would go back and edit out ccms' info in the "carcass" thread, so he knows where the original post is:

Quote from: "ZenAgent"

DON'T ask for what you DON'T WANT....I've got as many boundaries as you, who.  Obviously.[…]

Share your "information".

Now I'll honor my end and delete the above.

He also wrote how he edited it “without being asked to,”

 
Quote from: "ZenAgent"
I edited CCM's name out of the post without anyone asking me to do it.


So just ask him to link to it. Then you can find what he had there originally, and if he didn't post anything that will prove it.

He won't do it cause he knows what he wrote...whatever.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 09:54:24 PM
Quote from: "DFA"

Uh, this isn't a court of law where "zen shouldn't bring evidence against himself."

 The thing is, zen said he would go back and edit out ccms' info in the "carcass" thread, so he knows where the original post is:

Quote from: "ZenAgent"

DON'T ask for what you DON'T WANT....I've got as many boundaries as you, who.  Obviously.[…]

Share your "information".

Now I'll honor my end and delete the above.

He also wrote how he edited it “without being asked to,”

 
Quote from: "ZenAgent"
I edited CCM's name out of the post without anyone asking me to do it.


So just ask him to link to it. Then you can find what he had there originally, and if he didn't post anything that will prove it.

He won't do it cause he knows what he wrote...whatever.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 09:57:11 PM
Quote from: "psy"
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP


^^^

THIS
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 10:01:06 PM
Quote from: "DFF"
Quote from: "DFA"

Uh, this isn't a court of law where "zen shouldn't bring evidence against himself."

 The thing is, zen said he would go back and edit out ccms' info in the "carcass" thread, so he knows where the original post is:

Quote from: "ZenAgent"

DON'T ask for what you DON'T WANT....I've got as many boundaries as you, who.  Obviously.[…]

Share your "information".

Now I'll honor my end and delete the above.

He also wrote how he edited it “without being asked to,”

 
Quote from: "ZenAgent"
I edited CCM's name out of the post without anyone asking me to do it.


So just ask him to link to it. Then you can find what he had there originally, and if he didn't post anything that will prove it.

He won't do it cause he knows what he wrote...whatever.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 10:03:25 PM

HUTS
HET
CUFK
PU


Because this thread is that boring.
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2008, 10:57:22 PM
Che, assuming you're serious, why don't you write a review for Amazon on Scheff's book and be sure to include links to the lawsuit filed by the Green family which can be found on sueschefftruth.com or ISAC.org.  This lawsuit is public record.  The Whitmore Academy was listed in the GAO report which is also, public record.

After you post your review on Amazon, please let us know.

TIA
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Che Gookin on August 08, 2008, 01:13:44 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
Che, assuming you're serious, why don't you write a review for Amazon on Scheff's book and be sure to include links to the lawsuit filed by the Green family which can be found on sueschefftruth.com or ISAC.org.  This lawsuit is public record.  The Whitmore Academy was listed in the GAO report which is also, public record.

After you post your review on Amazon, please let us know.

TIA



Have you done this?
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2008, 01:38:18 AM
Nope - have no intention of buying Scheff's book. 

Let us know when you write the review for Amazon, Che. 

Here's the link:

http://www.amazon.com/Wits-End-Resource ... 0757306977 (http://www.amazon.com/Wits-End-Resources-Out-Control/dp/0757306977)
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2008, 01:41:40 AM
From the Amazon link:

"Customer Reviews"
 There are no customer reviews yet.   

ROTFLMAO - yours may be the first review Che.

Oh the irony of it all ...  ;D
Title: Re: why is che allowed back?
Post by: Che Gookin on August 08, 2008, 04:38:35 AM
Indeed.. I literally can't pass up the chance to heckle Sue on Amazon. I feel a video in the making over this one.