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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) => Topic started by: BuzzKill on August 18, 2007, 01:21:31 PM
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Headline on CNN:
Jamaica prepares for hard-charging Dean
The government of Jamaica -- preparing for Hurricane Dean -- issued a hurricane warning today, meaning that hurricane conditions are expected within the area within the next 24 hours. Forecasters fear Dean will be a Category 5 monster with 155 mph winds by then. full story
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So - what is WWASPS doing to ensure the safety of the students being held in their compound?
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Message on TAUSA
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/FrontPage.html (http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/FrontPage.html)
TRANQUILITY BAY, JAMAICA
Under Hurricane Warning
Posted 8-18-07 1:15 p.m.
Due to severe weather conditions, parents may be unable to directly contact the U.S. Consular's office in Jamaica. For specific inquiries about the safety and welfare of their child , parents can contact the Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs Oveseas Citizens Services at 1-888- 407-4747 beginning at 8 a.m. tomorrow (Sunday, 8-19-07)
SEE ALSO: DOS FACTSHEET BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION FACILITIES
Links: U.S. Consular's Office in Jamaica
http://kingston.usembassy.gov/informati ... elers.html (http://kingston.usembassy.gov/information_for_travelers.html)
Department of State FACTSHEET
http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/bro ... _1220.html (http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/brochures/brochures_1220.html)
** It has been confirmed that the U.S. Department of State is working with the US Embassy in Jamaica relevant to their concerns for the safety and welfare of kids at TB due to the hurricane.
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Headline on CNN:
Jamaica prepares for hard-charging Dean
The government of Jamaica -- preparing for Hurricane Dean -- issued a hurricane warning today, meaning that hurricane conditions are expected within the area within the next 24 hours. Forecasters fear Dean will be a Category 5 monster with 155 mph winds by then. full story
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So - what is WWASPS doing to ensure the safety of the students being held in their compound?
Probably the same as HanzoMom 4 did to ensure the safety of her child.NOTHING!!!!!
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Headline on CNN:
Jamaica prepares for hard-charging Dean
The government of Jamaica -- preparing for Hurricane Dean -- issued a hurricane warning today, meaning that hurricane conditions are expected within the area within the next 24 hours. Forecasters fear Dean will be a Category 5 monster with 155 mph winds by then. full story
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So - what is WWASPS doing to ensure the safety of the students being held in their compound?
Probably the same as HanzoMom 4 did to ensure the safety of her child.NOTHING!!!!!
WTF?!
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Well,you said yourself that you are a former program parent who has seen the light and all but it is probably a ruse.
Past behavior doesn't always predict future behavior but if the shoe fits...
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Well,you said yourself that you are a former program parent who has seen the light and all but it is probably a ruse.
Past behavior doesn't always predict future behavior but if the shoe fits...
No I'm not a program parent, or a mom, or a woman. But any way see my post in the open free for all, I hope it clears things up. Peace :lol:
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So maybe the TB place will get washed out to sea. Hopefully the kids don't get hurt. They weren't evacuated from the island, so they go back to an even bigger mess. There has to be something someone could do about that, like charge the parents or somethin with reckless endangerment maybe? these kids are probably freakin out right about now.
Did anyone reading this go through that IVAN one while at TB? If so, what was it like?
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I was there when Ivan went through. it wasn't all that bad.
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In Jamaica, hurricanes just make more shit to pile up. Look around now, there's shit everywhere!
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In Jamaica, hurricanes just make more shit to pile up. Look around now, there's shit everywhere!
Well - its not like most folks "here" are able to look around "there". The media isn't giving Dean in Jamaica much coverage. They all had reporters in Kingston, reporting about down trees and so on, but there has been nothing from around Treasure Beach - and looking at the satellite map - it looked like the eye of the storm scraped right over the area - which would include the facility know as Tranquility Bay - which houses a fair number of American kids.
Any word on where those kids are? Any word on if the facility known as Tranquility Bay is still sitting on the beach front; Or are the concrete blocks and iron gates that made up TB part of the "shit" you speak of laying around?
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I thought TB was shut down
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I thought TB was shut down
No - there are still kids there and they are still sending kids there.
If you read Jay Kay's letter (which is all I saw that indicated any kind of change) he speaks of moving a lot of the kids to the old Bethel academy facility - but he goes on to say TB will be used for the more program resistant kids ( I paraphrase) which one can fairly assume means they are making it into a new High Impact type facility.
They never did give up on the concept of a High Impact program. They were building one at Dundee Ranch before the raid and closing of that facility. I believe it is now being used to work over Narvin's horses. But anyway, the fact they were building it with the intent of working kids over leads me to believe they still aspire to having a place that is especially hellish to terrify the kids with. TB always was such a place - but now it appears they are intending to be more open about the fact.
I can see how this would be a good choice from Their perspective. Where else have they operated for years with persistent and consistent reports of horrible treatment of the kids with out interference from the outside? Besides the United States I mean. And even Montana or Utah might balk at a High Impact type of facility. They appear to be safe from interference in Jamaica; except perhaps for interference by Mother Nature.
Where are the kids? Is the facility safe and sound? I wish we knew.
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Here's the letter. Read it carefully. It does not say that TB is closing - and I don't know why so many think it does.
Dear Parents/Guardians and Friends,
In order to alleviate any more rumors we felt it was time to notify everyone
what is happening with Tranquility Bay. We have had a great 10 years and our
staff has been tremendous. We could not have accomplished anything without your
support and dedication.
Financially TB is at a time when change has become necessary. With this in mind
we have thought long and hard about our options. The best solution we have come
up with is to basically transplant our Program to Gulf Coast Academy in
Mississippi. I have personally visited the facility and find it to be well
suited for our kids.
Tranquility Bay will continue to deal with Zero Tolerance kids from other
programs. As you know the new passport requirements have held up many, many
enrollments. We are confident over the next few months that parents will get
their children passports.
We would ask you to contact Gulf Coast Academy as soon as possible and arrange
for a transfer of your child. The contact information will be sent to you
tomorrow by your Family Rep. The BBS makes it difficult to put in phone numbers
as well as web addresses.
I will certainly be involved with the Gulf Coast Academy school to make sure the
transition is as smooth as possible. In addition to this Dr. Chappuis has agreed
to assist in a smooth transition. We are hopeful that some of our staff will be
able to work at the school as well. Clearly this will assist everyone.
We do not see this holding any students back, in fact, they may be able to move
a little quicker.
Again, we appreciate your support and look forward to a smooth transition in
this new venture. Remember, change is a good thing.
Thanks and Love,
Jay
to you in private.
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If you watch the videos about pillars of hope made by a former program parent, they walk inside a brick wall compound at one point where one of the persons speaks about it being a mud camp instead of the intented boot camp.
The links are on Fornits Wiki (http://http://fornits.com/wiki/index.php/Talk:Pillars_of_Hope)
Another rumor about pillars of hope is found here:
Tread about Pillars of hope on antiwwasp (http://http://www.antiwwasp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106)
just got pulled from Pillars of hope mr.mark and marsha got fired for i dont know what and they stole about 3 girls and mr.narv is sueing them theirs less then 10 kids their now and another is leaving soon
what do you mean, "they stole 3 girls?" like, helped them run away or kidnapped them or what?
the theripist got fired and then called up the parents of the kids who were getting cousouling and told them a bunch of lyes soon as they got fired this place isnt safe its a waste of money etc. they fliped the script soon as they got fired very un professinal. narvin linchfield is supposely sueing them
He is running out of cheap labor.
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///If you watch the videos about pillars of hope made by a former program parent, they walk inside a brick wall compound at one point where one of the persons speaks about it being a mud camp instead of the intented boot camp. ///
I saw that. Did you notice her [ the mom] telling Narvin with a note of amusement in her voice, something to the effect of: The kids were scared to death of this place, you know. . . And Narvin responding "They were?" all surprised like. . . As if he didn't know they were afraid of it - as if that hadn't been the point all along.
///just got pulled from Pillars of hope mr.mark and marsha got fired for i dont know what and they stole about 3 girls and mr.narv is sueing them theirs less then 10 kids their now and another is leaving soon what do you mean, "they stole 3 girls?" like, helped them run away or kidnapped them or what? the theripist got fired and then called up the parents of the kids who were getting cousouling and told them a bunch of lyes soon as they got fired this place isnt safe its a waste of money etc. they fliped the script soon as they got fired very un professinal. narvin linchfield is supposely sueing them///
How interesting. Sure would like to talk to Mark and Marsha - and the three "stolen" girls.
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Just a note on how TB practices keeping the kids safe, last storm to come through Jamaica, Jay refused to move the kids to safer, higher, ground. Outgraged, parents contacted the Consulate and they were forced to move the kids to higher ground. Nice of Jay huh?
Meanwhile, more recently, I received an email from a program happy parent, who I won't name since I figure she's still an inside link to TB and has no clue where I stand, and she stated there are only a handful of kids still there. She did not say where they were being housed, probably at one of the staff's houses, but that Jay does have plans to re-open a new facility at another site, once he can obtain one. So by no means has TB completely shut down. And with parents like this one still out to sell this program, I don't see that happening anytime soon.
The only thing we can be thankful for at this time is that they moved most of the kids out of there, and hopefully because of that move, parents wised up and took their kids home. We will probably never know.
Meanwhile, someone keep their eyes on the Grand Caymen Press. They are supposedly doing a follow up to last years story on TB. It should prove to be quite interesting.
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Here's the latest.
Jay Kay did not move the kids from the facility, they stayed there and huddled in for the storm. The kids are alright.
Newsflash:
Jay Kay was able to re-negotiate his lease, and TB is still up and running, accepting zero tolerance kids. However, most upper levels were, in fact, moved to the states.
Hate to break the bad news. Not very thrilled about this myself. Will keep you posted as more information trickles in.