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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Seed Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Antigen on August 08, 2007, 03:04:43 PM
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I just got this letter in the mail. No return address and I think I'll keep the postmark info in confidence. Here goes.
To those wanting to know what Libby is like after all these years, it is enough to know here husband of about 30 years, Robert Kienzle. They are tight as ticks (in fact, their email address is "2honeybears").
Robert appears to be a few years younger than Libby. He met her at the Seed when he was in his gullible and naive teens. They have no children. ??? At last count several years ago, they owned over 200 rental properties in South Florida. They keep a very low profile, presumably for security reasons because of their good fortune and the many enemies they accrued through their longtime association with The Seed. Libby has never worked - - trains dogs on a volunteer basis. Reports are that she is often "sickly" (bad things happen to bad people?). Robert/Libby and Art Barker had a big falling out several years ago and no longer speak.
Robert/Libby surely are humiliated to have been associated with a cult more than half their lives.
By all accounts, Robert is allegedly a hot-tempered and angry person. Vitriolic. Arrogant. Quick to attack, belittle and snicker at people. Very secretive and sneaky. Paranoid. Controlling. Big on lecturing. (Familiar traits of the Seed leaders and how they treated the kids?) Doesn't talk about his family, although apparently he has siblings.
People are not born this way. This behavior comes from a wound, a cancer, an injury, an influence, or a combination thereof. Unfortunately, these people turn around and pass their wounds, cancers, injuries and influences on to others. What a good thing Robert/Libby don't have children. There IS a God. But pity all the others with whom they have come into contact over the years.
Robert's character is no surprise. Look who he's beein in bed with for 30 years.
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I have a pretty good idea who may have sent that
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In my profile, I wrote that I'm a watcher:
What goes around does come around.
I have learned to love to watch...
But I'm in poor health. Would that make me a 'bad person' too?
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But I'm in poor health. Would that make me a 'bad person' too?
Wait: I've discovered that makes me a victim. ::puke::
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Did you have black Hair? and did you have a sister also on the program too?
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no black hair
no other family members in the program ...
There's more on the Fred Francis thread.
Don't want to beat the dead horse :(