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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: cactor on July 02, 2007, 05:19:53 PM
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I owe an apology to Christy Jones and HLA for my comments made about the school based off of rumors. My experience at Ridge Creek was a great one and I learned a lot of positive things about the mistakes I was making in life and how to correct them. My fears and concerns about HLA prompted me to write the negative comments about the school that I take full responsibility for. I am very apologetic for making those comments.
I think that everyone's experience at HLA or Ridge Creek is what they make of it--in which I chose to make the best of mine. I based my concerns off of rumors and I understand that it was very irresponsible on my part.
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first of all, HLA isn't licensed. Tell your parents that. Also, send them here:
http://homepage.mac.com/psyborgue/parents.html (http://homepage.mac.com/psyborgue/parents.html)
Have them read that letter, and if they don't believe RTCs are that bad, PM me and i'll send you contact info that you can give them to get in touch. Deborah (ex-hla parent) and/or a bunch of ex-hla students should be here in a minute to give you specifics... Do not go. If they try and get an escort service for you (to force you), resist. Scream, yell, anything to get the cops. Tell them you are being kidnapped. You don't have to go with them. They can attempt to make you, but you do not have to comply.
Whatever you do, do not go.
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My parents are not hiring an escort service. They are just as worried as I am. We are all very confused and we have been reading these forums together.
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Sent you a PM with my phone
if your parents feel like calling to talk, I can explain to them some of the dangers of this industry. HLA is also shutting down, according to Len Buccellato's own testimony in court. They are lying to the parents about their financial situation... That isn't even to mention the recent, somewhat convenient, fire that destroyed HLA's records (and the academic building).
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This smells of troll, normally when a recomendation to go from RCI to HLA is made, they go striaght there not home then back to HLA.
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This smells of troll, normally when a recomendation to go from RCI to HLA is made, they go striaght there not home then back to HLA.
Well... If I get a call, we will know. Otherwise, you are probably right.
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Hi cactor,
Why the rush?
You will find the most information on this forum. Read through the threads.
You might also visit the MySpace forums.
http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus ... 5847954353 (http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=100144848&Mytoken=8EAFEFC9-B48A-4D46-A137A77D30D3B55847954353)
http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus ... 209ac55f83 (http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=101303633&Mytoken=24956e46-682b-4ae1-bb6c-58209ac55f83)
BTW, HLA just received a temporary license from the Office of Regulatory Services. That means they didn't fully comply with all the regulations. They have 6 months to come into compliance. You can called the licensing division (Mr Bostick) and ask what prevented them from receiving a full license.
Office of Regulatory Services
Two Peachtree Street, NW
Atlanta, Georgia 30303-3142
Phone: 404.657.5700
Fax: 404.657.5708
E-mail: [email protected]
Good luck to you.
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If your parents want to talk to a parent, send me their phone number in a PM. I will be glad to talk them out of HLA and suggest some regular boarding schools for you.
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My experience at Ridge Creek was a life changing one
Change back.
Now.
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Stay away from HLA. Get back into school, work with a LICENSED & QUALIFIED counselor on your issues, and get your act together.
There is a reason why there is a lawsuit in place and why a few others have been filed more recently. There is a reason why the state of Georgia FORCED HLA to become licensed - and would only issue a temporary license.
Is HLA putting the pressure on you to make a decision?
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My parents are not hiring an escort service. They are just as worried as I am. We are all very confused and we have been reading these forums together.
You write very well...and obviously do not sound like you are
a candidate for HLA..
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I would suggest that you and your family go see a therapist that is completely independent of HLA. Tell them you situation and get their opinion about what you should do.
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As a parent of a former student at HLA, I can tell you that HLA is not the choice you want to make for your child. They make lots of false promises to you about what they will do for your child. It all sounds good when they tell you all about how they will help your child, but it does not work that way at all. Please save yourself a lot of $$$ and heartache and make another choice for your child. Do not let HLA get their hooks into you and your child and then you are really stuck because they will not get academic credit if you take your child out early. I will be glad to talk to any prospective parents that would like to talk to me about it. We will tell you the truth about what our experiences were like before you make that decision. HLA was a very negative environment, and in my opinion, that is why most parents take their children out of the program early.
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My experience at Ridge Creek was a life changing one
Change back.
Now.
Perhaps he meant in a bad way?
Also feel free to use whatever you need out of my blog to aid your cause of staying out of that cesspit. The stories in there are about a different facility all together, but the industry is rife with the same tragic similarities.
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I owe an apology to Christy Jones and HLA for my comments made about the school based off of rumors. My experience at Ridge Creek was a great one and I learned a lot of positive things about the mistakes I was making in life and how to correct them. My fears and concerns about HLA prompted me to write the negative comments about the school that I take full responsibility for. I am very apologetic for making those comments.
I think that everyone's experience at HLA or Ridge Creek is what they make of it--in which I chose to make the best of mine. I based my concerns off of rumors and I understand that it was very irresponsible on my part.
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I owe an apology to Christy Jones and HLA for my comments made about the school based off of rumors. My experience at Ridge Creek was a great one and I learned a lot of positive things about the mistakes I was making in life and how to correct them. My fears and concerns about HLA prompted me to write the negative comments about the school that I take full responsibility for. I am very apologetic for making those comments.
I think that everyone's experience at HLA or Ridge Creek is what they make of it--in which I chose to make the best of mine. I based my concerns off of rumors and I understand that it was very irresponsible on my part.
Give it up guys!
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Wow, I wonder what made him change his mind so quickly...
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2/10
:roll:
::hrumph::
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Cactor - Did HLA/Ridge Creek figure out who you were and call your parents to tell them how you weren't progressing therapeutically and you needed HLA before you threw your life away? Pretty scary that HLA/Ridge Creek are watching this site like 'big brother' - doesn't that tell you something right there?
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Guest- Has it never crossed your mind that this might be laughably unbelievable bullshit, and because there aren't any actual kids who would write this shit, they have to make some up?
Can we please leave the fiction to the people who actually know how to write it? :roll:
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Finally! Something to write on. It’s been a while my friends!
Hi Cactor,
I think you’re smart in questioning the conditions of a facility. That’s the only way you can feel more secure in the future.
In order to make a good decision, I think you have to question the source of this information. This is not a balanced forum in the least. Please do a search on my past posts (Function Junction) to find out what happens when you simply question the accusations from those on Fornits. One of my favorites (you’ll probably see him in a little bit) wondered whether I’d challenge the posts on a Holocaust Survivors Forum since I seem to challenge the accusations of people on this website. In other words, this person thinks I’d question a heavily documented tragedy vs. a website that makes accusations of abuse without any documentation.
I started out on this forum trying to find solid support of abuse. All I saw were posts of people saying they are “survivors”, but the only support was other people’s posts rather than past court cases, investigations that reported abuse, etc. After several challenges on the facts, I started realizing I wasn’t going to get them. I called CPS to find out if there were any positive findings of abuse, they said no. The recent court case doesn’t mention any abuse. I’d think that would be one of the chief contentions in a court case given the reports stated on Fornits, but it’s not there. I’d encourage you to read the judge’s decisions which are also highly critical of the merits of the case and the plaintiff’s attorneys. I’m interested to find out what the judge is going to say in the end. I’ve always made it very clear I don’t support abuse; if the accusations are proven to be true, I will join the fight to make sure they get the legal consequences. There isn’t an organization out there that would be in existence for 13 years and avoid prosecution for abuse. I don’t think HLA has the money or clout to control government agencies.
Keep one thing in mind; the angrier Fornits people get, the more they will start relying on insults to hide the insecurity with not having any solid evidence. They even said you were posting “bullshit” because it was a little more objective. I’ll post a link here that describes the patterns I’ve seen from those on Fornits. http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=21088&start=110
Look to see if you see the same patterns as well. Most of the people who write on here don’t have lives outside of this forum. I say this because many of them have over 3000 posts on Fornits alone. Most also post on MySpace. My favorite guy posts on at least 3 sites under different names.
Watch what happens when I simply put this out there: In order to make a decision, find someone who had a positive experience along with the ones who had a negative experience, take a tour of the place, and talk to the staff to get answers. If I were reading this, I’d also call government agencies that would be involved in investigating the claims posted on this website. At that point, make your decision. Let’s watch and see how the “benevolent” people of Fornits respond to a simple tip that most people do when making a decision.
Love and Peace to All!
::kiss:: ::dove:: ::peace::
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What is this, uncoordinated troll day?
Next time you pretend to be replying, post something that has to do with the actual post.
:roll:
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Again, FJ....The class case does not deal with allegations of abuse or negligence leading to abuse soley, because it would involve "similarily situated
famillies" and many class attorneys and Judges find that area difficult to class. Although one could determine as has been done, that the similarites out weigh the differences with reference to negligence and abuse, that is more difficult to class; not for merit, but because the experiences would have to be similar. To my knowledge only one federal case has followed that the "similarities" out weighed the differences, so it was allowed. Many neglect leading abuse cases are settled out before going to court or even filed before the court, as were some of the situations that occured at HLA according to families.
ORS.
What you are referring to comes under the jurisdiction of the ORS in the State of Georgia or private suits. Frequently, when one has "enmass"
greivances relating to negligence, abuse, human rights, the only way to solve them is through these agencies, which was done. Families are free to file private suits, but these types may never get to court. Elliot Spitzer
did only because he was the Attorney General Of NY and could. The families went to him. Each state operates different. In this case Att. General of Georgia and the Governor were contacted way prior to the class, separately,
thus ORS. Charges could not be filed with the ATT. General Of Georgia against ORS, because the Attorney Generals Office stated that they are
there as 'counsel' for the ORS. However, they could help move the
process along.
Also, if you read the class suit, there is a "stay of discovery", therefore
no details of what has beeen found before the stay or after, are allowed
out.
The CPS report is available, along with
the ORS report, if you wish to investigate further, all you need to do is
file an "Open Records Request" with the ORS, Keith Bostick.
Filings with the ORS have been going on for years regarding HLA. They finaly stepped up to the plate.
And, yes, I have seen evidence that this has been going on for years, between the ORS and QUIRK and QUIRK , representing Mr. Buccellato,in the fight to keep HLA from
being regulated as a TBS school, which HLA has been advertising for it's entire life.
It is apparent that you are not in disagreement with the filing of the class
suit, but with ORS. You need to get up to speed and read the reports.
Also, Berger and Montague would never compromise themselves, never have undertaken this case,( as it not a 'money' case for them or anyone else for that matter) without collaborating the evidence prior to filing this
'Class'. Simply, it was the "right" thing to do and only could be done on
a "class" wide basis. Could negligence, abuse be cited, yes, but that would make the case even more difficult to class, because of differences
ONLY, not on merit. Berger and Montague have 450 million dollar settlement cases, they did not need this case. They are known world-wide. You will also notice, they have not gone to the media, nor has any one of the plaintiffs. Berger and Montague does not need the exposure
and simply took the case out of compassion for these families and those that come after, because
it was the "right" thing to do. Positive changes have already been made at HLA for the good of all concerned.
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FJ sounds more and more like "The Who" with each post. :rofl: