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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) => Topic started by: psy on June 29, 2007, 12:13:55 AM
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http://www.gulf-coastacademy.com/ (http://www.gulf-coastacademy.com/)
Owner:
Lichfield, Narvin narv@teenrecovery.com
611 HORIZON LN
HODGES, SC 29653-8910
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+1.8643771948
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Very Interesting! Thanks pys!
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These good old boys know how to land on their feet. Bounced out of Costa Rica to good old Missippi.
I wonder how much involvment the Fountains, of Bethel Academy, had in the setting up of Gulf Coast Academy?
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IMO, Gulf Coast Academy is simply the newest name for Bethel Academy/Respect Camp/Eagle Point Academy etc.
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This system is like a worm you cut in 1/2 rather than dying it just regrows
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Would anyone please give me the exact address. I will create a page on my site about this facility. I have managed to locate and create a sat.image of both TB and Casa (TB is not up yet, but it will come.)
All those addresses, I have found:
174 Cedar Lane
Mill street.
must be private addresses. I can not see a facility regardless if I use Google, Msn or Mapquest. (Aspen Ranch in Loa, Utah is not on Msn, but on mapquest. Sometime firms are paid to remove stuff from their website for a obivious reason, but they can not pay them all off.)
It is tragic that an entire town seems to be willing to be the centre of private prison. For some reason Lucedale, MS attracts them all.
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IMO, Gulf Coast Academy is simply the newest name for Bethel Academy/Respect Camp/Eagle Point Academy etc.
Do you have some sort of hard confirmation on that? Remember the Fountain family are the owners of Bethel Academy not wwasp. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to put Narvin Litchfield down as the owner if Bethel already is owned and operated by the Fountains.
Given the area's receptiveness to these sort of shitholes it wouldn't surprise me if Narvin and his buddies choose it spefically for the ease of operating a facility free of government interferance. For all the hue and cry over the atrocities commited at Bethel the place is still in operation.
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IMO, Gulf Coast Academy is simply the newest name for Bethel Academy/Respect Camp/Eagle Point Academy etc.
Do you have some sort of hard confirmation on that?
That facility has had many names since it was first bought by WWASP in 2004. Its current name is Pine View Academy. Only makes sense that they change its name again.
Both "Pine View" and "Gulf Coast" are located in Lucedale, MS. Just how many gulags can a small town hold?
But, no, I have no hard evidence. Just my own knowldge of the history of that place and the ways of the WWASP.
Remember the Fountain family are the owners of Bethel Academy not wwasp. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to put Narvin Litchfield down as the owner if Bethel already is owned and operated by the Fountains.
The Fountains do not own Bethel (currently known as Pine View Academy). They sold it to WWASP back in Aug 2004. Now they just run it.
Given the area's receptiveness to these sort of shitholes it wouldn't surprise me if Narvin and his buddies choose it spefically for the ease of operating a facility free of government interferance. For all the hue and cry over the atrocities commited at Bethel the place is still in operation.
Sad, unfortunate, and true.
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I didn't realize the fountains had sold the place to wwasp. I was under the impression they had just joined was as another of their regional schools.
Hmmm.. easy way to test this theory to see if Gulf Coast is actually bethel.
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This is the Bethel Academy Contact page. We are excited about your visit to our site. This page is provided to assist you in contacting us regarding the needs of your child.
The physical address of the Bethel Campus is:
2147 Mill Street Extension,
Lucedale Ms, 39452.
The mailing address for Bethel Academy is:
174 Cedar Creek Lane
Lucedale, MS, 39452
The telephone numbers :
http://http://www.bethelacademy.org
So it does seem to appear that Gulf Coast Academy is merely Bethel/Pineview renamed if you compare the above address to that given by Covergaurd. Normally Covergaurd is pretty good about providing good information.
Rather chilling....
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http://www.gulf-coastacademy.com/
Owner:
Lichfield, Narvin narv@teenrecovery.com
611 HORIZON LN
HODGES, SC 29653-8910
US
+1.8643771948
Some of that information is at least ten years out of date.
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I posted this on another site, then I saw this one. Ooops.
http://http://www.gulf-coastacademy.com/media/pdf/agreement.pdf
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Gulf Coast was being renovated last year, at least that's what I was told, and as far as I know, they require 30 days in their "Basic Training", Wilderness Program prior to entering. Their site also pushes Carolina Springs and Pillarsofhope in Costa Rica.
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This is the lovely school Midwest recommended, however we were informed there was a "Mandatory" thirty day wilderness program that had to be attended before they would let you're child in. My answer: Absolutely NO Freakin' way. Anyone who sends their kids to a wilderness camp is insane and should be given shock treatment.
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Your involvement with Midwest was what now?
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My son was there and got kicked out. This is where they recommended he go. I said no, because I am totally, and absolutely against wilderness programs. Little did I know then anything about the WWASP deaths, suits, etc., and when I finally did, well you know the story. People I know who are still involved in the program say it's lies. How can you lie about a death, and injuries? You'd really have to be brainwashed hence what my son titles "Programmed Parents".
At least I am in wake up mode now, but feel fooled by the whole thing, and what I put him through. I don't know what damage it's done to all of us, probably will never know. For now, though, I can stop other parents from making the same mistakes I did.
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Wake up mode.. sounds like something out of the discovery seminar.
Good luck with your son.
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I just signed out, don't want to go in and out, so thanks and have a great evening.
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Narvin's trio.....
From web site....
This is facilitated by the child entering the specialty Boarding schools of either Carolina Springs Academy in South Carolina www.carolinasprings.com (http://www.carolinasprings.com) or Gulf Coast Academy in Mississippi www.gulf-coastacademy.com (http://www.gulf-coastacademy.com) for an initial wilderness process or basic training preparation in an ongoing self discovery and Educational process with an emotional growth component.
The Schools Offer a Three Phased Process
The process has three different stages that build on each other to move the child back to an appropriate state of maturation. The child starts at the 1st phase of the schools program which is designed to facilitate introspection by moving the student back to basics, then after a short time, 60-90 days of a wilderness program at CSA or Basic Training process for the students in Mississippi, the students enter the regular boarding school of both facilities. If they fail to show progress there they are remanded back to the 1st phase if needed a 2nd time. The third and final phase of the process is to enjoy a study abroad transitional component that will help them acquire additional skills while fulfilling their college prep second language requirement in Spanish at Pillars of Hope Language and Vocational Institute in Costa Rica www.pillarsofhope.com (http://www.pillarsofhope.com).
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Narvin's trio.....
From web site....
This is facilitated by the child entering the specialty Boarding schools of either Carolina Springs Academy in South Carolina www.carolinasprings.com (http://www.carolinasprings.com) or Gulf Coast Academy in Mississippi www.gulf-coastacademy.com (http://www.gulf-coastacademy.com) for an initial wilderness process or basic training preparation in an ongoing self discovery and Educational process with an emotional growth component.
The Schools Offer a Three Phased Process
The process has three different stages that build on each other to move the child back to an appropriate state of maturation. The child starts at the 1st phase of the schools program which is designed to facilitate introspection by moving the student back to basics, then after a short time, 60-90 days of a wilderness program at CSA or Basic Training process for the students in Mississippi, the students enter the regular boarding school of both facilities. If they fail to show progress there they are remanded back to the 1st phase if needed a 2nd time. The third and final phase of the process is to enjoy a study abroad transitional component that will help them acquire additional skills while fulfilling their college prep second language requirement in Spanish at Pillars of Hope Language and Vocational Institute in Costa Rica www.pillarsofhope.com (http://www.pillarsofhope.com).
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This is the lovely school Midwest recommended, however we were informed there was a "Mandatory" thirty day wilderness program that had to be attended before they would let you're child in. My answer: Absolutely NO Freakin' way. Anyone who sends their kids to a wilderness camp is insane and should be given shock treatment.
Why is Midwest Academy better than a wilderness program?
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My son was there and got kicked out. This is where they recommended he go. I said no, because I am totally, and absolutely against wilderness programs. Little did I know then anything about the WWASP deaths, suits, etc., and when I finally did, well you know the story. People I know who are still involved in the program say it's lies. How can you lie about a death, and injuries? You'd really have to be brainwashed hence what my son titles "Programmed Parents".
At least I am in wake up mode now, but feel fooled by the whole thing, and what I put him through. I don't know what damage it's done to all of us, probably will never know. For now, though, I can stop other parents from making the same mistakes I did.
How are you going to help other parents not make the same mistake you did? Obviously you didn't find fornits before placement. I am just curious, maybe more parents will follow your lead. Not many former program parents speak out as you can tell by reading the WWASP forum.
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I am not praising Midwest vs. Wilderness programs. I don't know why you are inferring this, other than to cause contraversy.
I don't know how I am going to help other parents. I certainly won't be referring ANY schools in the near future. I can certainly warn them here and elsewhere what our experiences were with respect to WWASP. And as far as WWASP parents speaking out, I think most are affraid to speak out for one reason or another. Here it's easy because you're anon. I think that goes without saying.
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Additionally, and I forgot to add, I sincerely hope someone here, or out there is going to keep an eye on this facility.
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I am not praising Midwest vs. Wilderness programs. I don't know why you are inferring this, other than to cause contraversy.
Former wilderness program parents post here too.
I wonder why you think wilderness program parents are "insane and need shock treatment"?
Do you consider your decision to send your own child to Midwest was any more rational than those parents?
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I am sure wilderness parents post here. I am saying, after reading this, and finding out about these programs, and parents still send them, then they should be given shock treatment. Not the onese who were fooled, and already sent them. Trying to twist my words really doesn't suit you, whoever you are.
edited to add: No, it was absolutely irrational. Had I have known about WWASP and the abuse, I definately would not have sent him. I didn't think to look under WWASP, I only looked under Teen Help and the actual School site for Midwest, like a lot of parents do, thinking they are doing their homework. My son and I had no complaints with Midwest, only that they failed to send a lot of his personal items home.
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This is the lovely school Midwest recommended, however we were informed there was a "Mandatory" thirty day wilderness program that had to be attended before they would let you're child in. My answer: Absolutely NO Freakin' way. Anyone who sends their kids to a wilderness camp is insane and should be given shock treatment.
You said this was your "answer" when informed your kid was kicked out and needed to be transfered, so you are saying you found fornits before this and still hadn't pulled your child? You aren't making any sense.
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Jesus Wept. I found Fornits after pulling him from TB. Give it a rest, and quit misquoting me.
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So you sent your kid to Tranquility bay but you were anti-wilderness at the same time?
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Give it a rest, and quit misquoting me.
Or what? You'll send me to TB. Sorry, I ain't your kid.
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My son and I had no complaints with Midwest, only that they failed to send a lot of his personal items home.
You have no problem with seminars, and forced imprisonment, what crime did your child commit to deserve such mistreatment? It's a negative sign when children sympathize with their jailers, not a positive one.
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what is this to you? A case of the abused now being the abuser. I am sure you have bigger fish to fry, then messing with me. Gotta go, this is taking up to much of my time. Your questions are misleading, and apparently you are answering for yourself, or for me for that matter, so I am guessing you can continue this conversation without me, with yourself. Good luck Guest.
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I want to know why people like you put their kids in places that get them abused, and make sense of your quote calling wilderness insane and needing shock treatment.
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You don't have any sincerity to know, you just want to cause trouble. Cut the crap, and get a life, and return the thread for what it was intended.
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Sidhe, can you claify: exactly HOW MANY PROGRAMS did you have your son in? Tranquility Bay, and then Midwest? Were there any other programs?
Weren't you posting on another thread, defending Isabelle Zehnder about providing her with the name of SUNRISE ADOLESCENT TRANSPORTS?
Didn't you have your son escorted by this company a FEW TIMES?
Could you just list the names of the PROGRAMS you enrolled your son in, and how this child got to and from each of these programs?
Were you referred to all of these PROGRAMS through the marketing deparment of WWASPS? Or, did you use any other referral companies, like PURE, for instance?
It is commendable that you don't "believe in wilderness programs," now isn't it?
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Sidhe, can you claify: exactly HOW MANY PROGRAMS did you have your son in? Tranquility Bay, and then Midwest? Were there any other programs?
Weren't you posting on another thread, defending Isabelle Zehnder about providing her with the name of SUNRISE ADOLESCENT TRANSPORTS?
Didn't you have your son escorted by this company a FEW TIMES?
Could you just list the names of the PROGRAMS you enrolled your son in, and how this child got to and from each of these programs?
Were you referred to all of these PROGRAMS through the marketing deparment of WWASPS? Or, did you use any other referral companies, like PURE, for instance?
It is commendable that you don't "believe in wilderness programs," now isn't it? :o
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Is this that dimwit CAICA apologist - the one who had his/her kid in 5 programs and claimed it was THEIR mistake giving Izzy Midwest's phone number?
Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
Bottom Line: Isabelle Zehnder refers children to unregulated programs and transport companies contrary to her own disclaimer.
Ouch.
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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I'll let my son answer that when he gets back, if he want's to. I told him about this site and he seemed interested.
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5 programs. Are you guys that gullible?
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If that the facility?
I have studied the ground photos made by ISAC for a Fornits Wiki article and wanted to put a link to a sat image on the article.
Golf coast satellite photo (http://http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=30.904061&lon=-88.590114&z=17.6&r=0&src=msl)
But is it the right buildings?
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Gulf Coast Academy is the former Bethel Boys Academy, aka Eagle Point, aka Pine View now GCA. It is most definitely WWASP. The sad thing is that they will "close" one place, reopen with a new name and keep going.
It's not just Lucedale either. There was another program started to counter the WWASPS that actually was doing good, but the numbers weren't there, and after a couple of years it closed.
Truth be known, if something could be done, it would be done.
Alas............