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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Rachael on May 30, 2007, 09:10:43 PM
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Ok, let's try this again now.....
So... this is coming up soon, who's going to be there?
Rachael
*******Who Free*******
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I can't come due to geographical conflicts. However, I'm pondering doing a showing of it with a Q/A session afterwards here in Korea if I can get my hands on a copy of it.
COME on BitTorrent!
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I was planning on attending with my daughter, but it was suggested, by Psy and others, that it might be a bad idea. He mentioned that it will be mostly survivors and that my daughter isn’t a survivor. So I assume survivor doesn’t mean a person who attended a TBS. What does survivor mean? Kids who attended boot camp type places? Or those who didn’t do well?
Just curious
(no one needs to respond to this, just wanted to get my post in, carry on)
Sorry Rachael, nothing personal.
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What a sad pathetic old man.
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I was planning on attending with my daughter, but it was suggested, by Psy and others, that it might be a bad idea. He mentioned that it will be mostly survivors and that my daughter isn’t a survivor. So I assume survivor doesn’t mean a person who attended a TBS. What does survivor mean? Kids who attended boot camp type places? Or those who didn’t do well?
Just curious
(no one needs to respond to this, just wanted to get my post in, carry on)
Sorry Rachael, nothing personal.
Im sure there are many people who attended the Straightlike Programs who consider themselves "graduates",or even "drop outs",but a great number of the participants here regard their experience in the program to be an abusive experience.
Either they were abused,or they abused others,or both.
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I was planning on attending with my daughter, but it was suggested, by Psy and others, that it might be a bad idea. He mentioned that it will be mostly survivors and that my daughter isn’t a survivor. So I assume survivor doesn’t mean a person who attended a TBS. What does survivor mean? Kids who attended boot camp type places? Or those who didn’t do well?
Just curious
(no one needs to respond to this, just wanted to get my post in, carry on)
Sorry Rachael, nothing personal.
I will respond, even though I know I don't have to Who, LOL!!!!! Um, I think it would be a total distraction for you, and your daughter to attend. Well, I take that back I have yet to hear from your daughter saying thank god my parents sent me to ASR!!!! So, I'm not going to rule her out! But, I think it's pretty safe to say you are not welcome though.
I see both sides, and you for some reason cannot? You're starting to come across to me as a cruel insensitive jerk. There is no way in hell that you are an actual parent. You are employed by these programs to defend them in forums such as these.
I know guys it took me a while to really be convinced of this. But, I wanted to make sure. Now, I am sure.
Who, IM me anytime.
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My bad, that was me!
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whatever!
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I can't come due to geographical conflicts. However, I'm pondering doing a showing of it with a Q/A session afterwards here in Korea if I can get my hands on a copy of it.
COME on BitTorrent!
Is there conference call capabilities with confirmed ID?
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I can't come due to geographical conflicts. However, I'm pondering doing a showing of it with a Q/A session afterwards here in Korea if I can get my hands on a copy of it.
COME on BitTorrent!
Is there conference call capabilities with confirmed ID?
:question: :question: :question:
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(no one needs to respond to this, just wanted to get my post in, carry on)
This says everything you need to know about this dirtbag. What he wants supercedes anyone else's needs or wants.
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...and that my daughter isn’t a survivor.
No. I said __you don't consider her one__. But hell... I'm starting to think you should show up. Just make sure to yell "I'm The Who" real loud so everybody here knows who you are. Nevermind what I said before... It's a real good idea for you to show up. Oh... And make sure, during the question and answer at the end, to doubt survivors to their faces. Make sure to laugh, mock, and say all the things you do on this forum.
:D
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...and that my daughter isn’t a survivor.
No. I said __you don't consider her one__. But hell... I'm starting to think you should show up. Just make sure to yell "I'm The Who" real loud so everybody here knows who you are. Nevermind what I said before... It's a real good idea for you to show up. Oh... And make sure, during the question and answer at the end, to doubt survivors to their faces. Make sure to laugh, mock, and say all the things you do on this forum.
:D
Why would I or anyone doubt any of the stories? Why would anyone mock or laugh? Do you believe all the propaganda you hear on fornits? Would you laugh or mock any of the parents who come on here to tell their stories?
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I think you are making a bigger deal out of the bong than you have to. If the communication is going well why push it and make him follow thru with actually physically throwing the bong away (power struggle). There could be a million reasons why he doesn’t want to throw it away, I cant think of any that would be important. Kids see things differently than we do, he may not see that you are waiting patiently for him to throw it away. My advice would be to just toss it, it is home made and if he decides he wants another one some day he can just make another one.
Advice coming from a parent who sent their kid to be forced march and barely fed for a month as punishment. :rofl:
Oh come on that’s only the tip of the ice berg, lets be honest, no exaggerating here, we need to be credible or no parents will believe us. Here is a more complete account:
No food.
Sexual abused in everyway.
Repeat beatings.
No water.
No bathroom.
No bedding.
Little items I had were stolen, like my sweaty hat and shoes.
My Bible ripped and wrecked.
What little food I got, stolen from me.
Forced to drink cum, piss, eat shit.
Duct-taped from head to toe for no reason. (my favorite)
No toilet paper.
Had rocks and items thrown at me.
Locked in a hot, wooden box.
Forced to eat paper.
Forced to be naked for a week.
Thrown into the ocean during a typhoon. ( I think he would keep blowing back ,would'nt he?)
Kicked down a hill and had logs thrown on me.
Had a chair slammed into my gut.
Obtained more skin diseases than a POW in Vietnam.
Forced to carry "sandbags" of rocks up and down hills.
This list of abuses was copy/pasted from this survivors post (http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=21209) made the day before TheWho altered and made fun of it.
The comments in parenthesis were added by TheWho.
TheWho altered the list of abuses to bold certain ones for some reason.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t= ... c&start=80 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=21145&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=80)
Ok so, the parent who pays loads to send their kid away because they want to change girlfriends, careers, sexuality? Is that punishment or consequence (YOU WILL NOT BE GAY! THIS IS YOUR CONSEQUENCE FOR BEING WHO YOU ARE!) this to me is callous, the oarents who send their kids away because they have become what the parents don't want them to be, what happened to live & let live? Letting a kid become his/her own person is the best gift you can give to them
You are so totally full of shit if you think this is why parents send kids away. Funny how parents are supposed to practice "live & let live" when it comes to their kids, but the kids don't have to practice fuck-all. The kids can be total criminals, stealing everything they can get their hands on, taking all kinds of drugs and then driving their parent's car, refusing to go to school, refusing to get a job, being verbally and physically abusive to their parents or brothers and sisters -- in other words, doing whatever the fuck they want and expecting mom & dad to just take it...and keep paying the tab to support a completely insensitive little shit of an offspring.
Fuck that shit. Some kids get sent away simply because their parents are tired of being terrorized by the little demon they tried to raise to be a decent human being.
Ha,Ha,Ha,.. thats funny!
http://wwf.fornits.com/posting.php?mode=quote&p=255131 (http://wwf.fornits.com/posting.php?mode=quote&p=255131)
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Why would I or anyone doubt any of the stories? Why would anyone mock or laugh?
TheWho told us once.
Thu May 17, 2007 11:51 am
There was an event that struck me as kind of absurd and a little funny, at the time, that’s all.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=21604&start=10 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=21604&start=10)
Until TheWho edited it, two weeks after they originally posted it.
There was an event that struck RobertBruce as kind of absurd and a little funny, at the time, that’s all.
Last edited by TheWho on Wed May 30, 2007 8:50 pm; edited 1 time in total
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This is NOT FUNNY, RobertBruce! What is WRONG with you?
Here's another Sleazy Response from RobertBruce about a sexual abuse victim:
RobertBruce[/b]"]
Ha, Ha, Ha............. Sometimes this is too funny! You people will say anything to get attention or to manipulate... Ha, Ha, Ha... Well, you know, sometimes a kid getting anally gang-raped is the best way to deal with immaturity! You have to grow up some time.......Ha, Ha, Ha
This guy is SICK!
RB you should get a therapist. You need help man, that stuff is sick.
Bruce, you can blame Thewho for alot of things, because he deserves it and I agree with trying to make him look bad because he is a programmie and deserves all the rath we can give him. But we traced this back to your original post. You should own up to this and appologize or try to get some help. It just isnt healthy talking this way.
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Lying about another program survivor will not take back your disgusting words TheWho.
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I see both sides, and you for some reason cannot? You're starting to come across to me as a cruel insensitive jerk. There is no way in hell that you are an actual parent. You are employed by these programs to defend them in forums such as these.
I know guys it took me a while to really be convinced of this. But, I wanted to make sure. Now, I am sure.
Many people are starting to realize this, his own words do him in, and he doesn't even realize it because he thinks this is all a big joke.
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Bruce, you can blame Thewho for alot of things, because he deserves it and I agree with trying to make him look bad because he is a programmie and deserves all the rath we can give him. But we traced this back to your original post. You should own up to this and appologize or try to get some help. It just isnt healthy talking this way.
Who's "we" now, Who? Who are all these allies you pretend to have?
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I see both sides, and you for some reason cannot? You're starting to come across to me as a cruel insensitive jerk. There is no way in hell that you are an actual parent. You are employed by these programs to defend them in forums such as these.
Then how do you explain my brother? Check him out; Thom and Arrogant Bastard, maybe one or two more that I don't recall. Then there's his dear, dear old friend "Ft. Lauderdale", who was on staff at the Seed in Ft. Lauderdale some years ago and who's name we dare not mention.
Not saying Who isn't making money on the industry, I'm pretty sure he is. But I think he thinks he's making an honest living, provided you use the program definition of the word. It's the zealotry that drives the compulsion as well as career and financial choices, not the other way around. I'm convinced of it, even in cases like Newton. Take, for example, Castle's ebay auction (I think it's over on Open Free for All) You think the AA head who made that comment was paid to do it? Hell, I love arguing w/ Stepcraft zombies when I need to take out a little aggression. I've had several so worked up I honestly feared that they'd turn up at my door and beat me senseless with a hard bound, large print edition of the Big Book.
Look, I'm not saying this to excuse Who or anyone else. It's not mine to judge another human being. Not too sure there's a sentient entity kind of "lord" who's it is to judge people, but I'm pretty certain I'm not. So any moral judgment on my part would be mute anyway.
My point is this; Who and folks like them are examples of how damned effective the Therapeutic Community method can be sometimes. Not the least bit therapeutic nor conducive to community building, but I know people who have been drinking the kool aid and not come up for air for over 30 years.
Think about that, now parents, next time the abstract thought crosses your mind that maybe your kid could use a little brainwashing.... and anyone else, too, who may be tempted to take up Stepcraft yourself. Sometimes the effects are pretty much irreversible.
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No doubt some dumb bastard is going to come along one day and realize that they've spent their whole life snorting the powder kool-aid lines. Tragically they won't even be offended and then will attempt to foist it off on someone else.
Oh wait.. past tense.
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When is this again?
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When is this again?
Sunday at 2PM, in New York.
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They got a link up on ISAC now.
Anybody know when we can see this released on dvd? I'd love to go but I'm stuck here, poor and in the south.... the deep south :o
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Won't be able to make it. Not only do I have plans that have been set in motion for a while now...........but that's all the way on the other side of the country for me!
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Well heck, now this thread really is WhoFree! :P
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What are other people wearing? How will we know who is who? (with hopefully no "Who")
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ONLY A FEW HOURS LEFT - GET READY EVERYONE!
I will be the one in black pants, white shirt and I have short hair.
I answer to the name SCRAWL.
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I'm so jealous!! You folks have, ya hear?