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Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: try another castle on December 18, 2006, 10:44:36 PM
List the three bands you think were the most influential in modern music.

My votes:
1. Beatles
2. Black Sabbath
3. Pixies

The Beatles revolutionized rock n' roll. Sabbath were the godfathers of heavy metal. (NOT Led Zeppelin.) Pixies changed everything. There was no band like them before, and only cheap imitations afterwards.

And FUCK Elvis. Bitch.
Title: Re: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: Froderik on December 18, 2006, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: ""try another castle""
List the three bands you think were the most influential in modern music.

My votes:
1. Beatles
2. Black Sabbath
3. Pixies

I'd have to agree, and not just because I happen to love all three of those bands.
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: try another castle on December 19, 2006, 12:47:07 AM
One of  my friends mentioned the Ramones. If I had a fourth choice, I'd definitely pick them. But IMO, they don't make the top 3. Same with Iggy and the Stooges.

I'm not really a huge fan of the Beatles anymore. CEDU ruined them for me, but I still fully acknowledge their importance.

And for those who feel like mentioning Nirvana, know this: Cobain admitted he was trying to rip off the Pixies.
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: Froderik on December 19, 2006, 10:32:56 AM
Quote from: ""try another castle""
One of  my friends mentioned the Ramones. If I had a fourth choice, I'd definitely pick them. But IMO, they don't make the top 3. Same with Iggy and the Stooges.

I'm not really a huge fan of the Beatles anymore. CEDU ruined them for me, but I still fully acknowledge their importance.

And for those who feel like mentioning Nirvana, know this: Cobain admitted he was trying to rip off the Pixies.

Yeah, The Ramones & The Stooges; you could say the same for The Sex Pistols too, but not in the top 3.

So CEDU used The Beatles against you? The fuckers. I used to listen to them more than I do now.

I was thinking Nirvana too there for a minute, but then realized (without Cobain's quote) that The Pixies precluded them.
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: Froderik on December 19, 2006, 10:50:35 AM
Hmm.. What about James Brown, The Godfather of Soul?
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2006, 01:26:20 AM
Chuch Berry, Bob Dylan, The Velvet Underground.
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: try another castle on December 20, 2006, 01:39:48 AM
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So CEDU used The Beatles against you? The fuckers. I used to listen to them more than I do now.


They used to be played on saturday crews and as house music. It was one of those things where you just hear it incessantly so many fucking times that you never want to hear them again. Kind of like how frat boys ruined Bob Marley for me, cause they would blast the stupid greatest hits album from their houses all the time.

Fortunately, Sgt. Pepper's was "unacceptable" at CEDU, so I don't have any negative association with that album, since we couldn't listen to it.

Probably to this day, my favorite beatles song is "Being For the Benefit of Mr. Kite".

But "Tax Man" is good too. I like Harrison. (Except for his solo work.)


Anne Bonney's sig quote made me think... what about Zappa? Where does he fit into all of this? I don't think he would be in the top 3, because I think he would be on his own list, with just him. The Zappa list of one.
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: Froderik on December 20, 2006, 10:44:02 AM
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Chuck Berry, Bob Dylan, The Velvet Underground.

Chuck Berry crossed my mind, too.

Maybe the list has to be expanded to the 5 most influential bands in modern music.
(We had also considered adding The Ramones.)  

Dylan had influence. (Do I hear 6?)

What about David Bowie? (7?)

The Velvet Underground were absolutely unique and original, but I don't know if their scope of influence can compare with the musicians named.

This will probably turn into at least a top 10 list if not higher..
Title: Sweet Jane vs. Eleanor Rigby
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2006, 06:51:22 PM
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The Velvet Underground were absolutely unique and original, but I don't know if their scope of influence can compare with the musicians named.
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I think they were VERY influential, although not very popular.  Like the saying goes, "The Velvets only sold three thousand records, but everyone who bought the record started a band."  I think they are at least as influential as the Beatles on what is considered popular music today.  They pioneered the use of noise, and touched subject matter no one had even dreamwed of singing openly about before Velvet Underground and Nico came out.
Title: Re: Sweet Jane vs. Eleanor Rigby
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2006, 07:39:24 PM
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Quote from: ""Froderik""
The Velvet Underground were absolutely unique and original, but I don't know if their scope of influence can compare with the musicians named.
I think they were VERY influential, although not very popular.  Like the saying goes, "The Velvets only sold three thousand records, but everyone who bought the record started a band."  I think they are at least as influential as the Beatles on what is considered popular music today.  They pioneered the use of noise, and touched subject matter no one had even dreamwed of singing openly about before Velvet Underground and Nico came out.

I meant to elaborate on them a little despite what I said. Sonic Youth wouldn't have been what they were without VU; consequently, Nirvana wouldn't have been what they were without having first heard Sonic Youth! Yeah, VU was influential, but aside from Sonic Youth who did they directly (or indirectly) influence? Perhaps I'm overlooking something here.
Title: Re: Sweet Jane vs. Eleanor Rigby
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2006, 08:31:19 PM
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Quote from: ""Waitin' for RTP""
Quote from: ""Froderik""
The Velvet Underground were absolutely unique and original, but I don't know if their scope of influence can compare with the musicians named.
I think they were VERY influential, although not very popular.  Like the saying goes, "The Velvets only sold three thousand records, but everyone who bought the record started a band."  I think they are at least as influential as the Beatles on what is considered popular music today.  They pioneered the use of noise, and touched subject matter no one had even dreamwed of singing openly about before Velvet Underground and Nico came out.


 Yeah, VU was influential, but aside from Sonic Youth who did they directly (or indirectly) influence? Perhaps I'm overlooking something here.


Pick a band from the CBGBs or Max's Kansas City scene, and there's your Velvets influence.  Also any of the industrial/noise bands have a debt to them, as do the Stooges.  And the subject matter can not be overstated--they were singing about things that no one else had sung about before.  Their influences in that department would be too numerous to mention.
Title: Re: Sweet Jane vs. Eleanor Rigby
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2006, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: ""Waitin' for RTP""
Pick a band from the CBGBs or Max's Kansas City scene, and there's your Velvets influence.  Also any of the industrial/noise bands have a debt to them, as do the Stooges.  And the subject matter can not be overstated--they were singing about things that no one else had sung about before.  Their influences in that department would be too numerous to mention.

So you're saying that they influnced The Ramones & others from that scene like Television & Patti Smith? I see what you're getting at, especially with the "subject matter" thing... The Velvets openly sung about the dark underworld of heroin use, sadomasochism, etc and The Ramones wrote songs about sniffing glue and being retarded...
Title: Re: Sweet Jane vs. Eleanor Rigby
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Waitin' for RTP""
Pick a band from the CBGBs or Max's Kansas City scene, and there's your Velvets influence.  Also any of the industrial/noise bands have a debt to them, as do the Stooges.  And the subject matter can not be overstated--they were singing about things that no one else had sung about before.  Their influences in that department would be too numerous to mention.
So you're saying that they influnced The Ramones & others from that scene like Television & Patti Smith? I see what you're getting at, especially with the "subject matter" thing... The Velvets openly sung about the dark underworld of heroin use, sadomasochism, etc and The Ramones wrote songs about sniffing glue and being retarded...


That's it, as I see it.  Without the Velvets to open the door, none of that stuff would have happened.  The world would still be full of Jackson Browne hippy-derived crap.  The Velvets saved rock and roll, though they didn't know it at the time (or maybe they did....)
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 25, 2006, 07:58:50 PM
1.  The Beatles
2. Black Sabbath

...and what about the Wailers...??  They influenced some pretty influential bands themselves, such as the Clash and the Police and Eric Clapton.
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: Anonymous on December 26, 2006, 01:02:20 AM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
1.  The Beatles
2. Black Sabbath

...and what about the Wailers...??  They influenced some pretty influential bands themselves, such as the Clash and the Police and Eric Clapton.

Absolutely! That brings us up to 9 now...
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: Anonymous on December 27, 2006, 10:28:45 AM
Black Sabbath
Bad Brains
Motorhead (Fast Eddie Clarke years plus On Parole w/Larry Wallis)
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: Anonymous on December 27, 2006, 10:43:16 AM
No matter how influential the Bad Brains and Motorhead were, I sure like both of them a lot!
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: linchpin on January 07, 2007, 06:57:23 AM
Motorhead sucks ass. Never got what the big deal was with them...I know their shirts are trendy for metslheads but the albums Ive heard from them suck ass
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2007, 09:07:33 AM
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Motorhead sucks ass. Never got what the big deal was with them...I know their shirts are trendy for metslheads but the albums Ive heard from them suck ass

You don't think they have an original sound?  

What about Black Sabbath? Do you like them?
Title: Votes for the most influential bands.
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on January 07, 2007, 09:32:38 AM
I'm not too keen on Motorhead either.  

They are a thousand times better than those wussy posers Bon Jovi though.