Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: starry-eyed pirate on December 11, 2006, 11:43:30 AM
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 11, 2006, 11:43:30 AM
So I told ja I'd let ya know the end of the story about whether I ever recieved my $tr8 file in the mail ?? remember, about...what ??...
About a year ago. I sent a firm but polite registered letter, full of manners and such niceities to the DFAF down in FLA requesting that they give me my file...
I've heard nothin back. I know I'm real slow but see all this time I been a-thinkin' on it. Ever'day that damn file don' show I get a little more meaner and a little more focused on it. I got their signed receipt layin around on the tables in my livin room remindin me ever' damned day that they continue to be disrespectful. They should at least send me an explanation of some kind. Don't cha think ?!?!
I start to think I'm gonna have to send them another registered letter... But I can see that aint gonna do it, maybe I'll have to go down there in person and walk right into the place and ask for it. And refuse to go away. I'll just be cool. I'll just walk up to the receptionist or whoever I see that looks like someone to deal with and introduce myself and ask for my file. I made personal arrangements back in like '86 with Tim Kelleher who was on executive staff at the time. He told me if I ever graduated he'd give me my file and we shook on it. I wanted to see my file back then. That's my fuckin file! Fuck them for invadin' my space. That is a crime!
Some folks might ask: Why do you want your file so bad anyway...it aint worth your time or energy...just for-get it. I ask that question of myself.
But see theres somethin about it...because I helped create it. It is a coded message to myself really, just like all the poetry and notes that I wrote to myself that they threw away cause they wanted me to need them in my confusion. They wanted me to be submissive to them, wanted my dependence on them. They are in fear. $tr8 is the manifestation of their nightmare. They are the weak.
Maybe I'll just take a drive on down to ol' FLA, That's about the last state in the lower 48, that I yet gotta see... Maybe I'll just go on in there real cool like and refuse to leave without my file. If it gets rough. I won't be overtly threatenin'. I'll just hold my ground and insist that they deliver it to me. If they want me to leave without it they'll just have to throw me out, but I'll come back and I'll stand outside their damn building and ask for my file until they give it to me or give me some explanation.
Just to make 'em face me.
What night is ladies night RTP ?? ::bandit::
Title: Re: What night is...RTP
Post by: teachback on December 11, 2006, 12:06:38 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Maybe I'll just take a drive on down to ol' FLA, That's about the last state in the lower 48, that I yet gotta see... Maybe I'll just go on in there real cool like and refuse to leave without my file. If it gets rough. I won't be overtly threatenin'. I'll just hold my ground and insist that they deliver it to me. If they want me to leave without it they'll just have to throw me out, but I'll come back and I'll stand outside their damn building and ask for my file until they give it to me or give me some explanation.
Just to make 'em face me.
What night is ladies night RTP ?? ::bandit::
Now that sounds like something I'd like to be in on! I could do some driving.. maybe kick in for gas...
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 11, 2006, 12:39:21 PM
well...that'd be cool. 'Reckon...
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 11, 2006, 12:44:03 PM
You wanna go to the DFAF too ?? And walk in there and make 'em either hand us our files or give us some explanation or what ??...refuse to leave without one or the other.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2006, 12:53:22 PM
straight inc vet, cool plans are set, horses mouth goes down south, drives for miles, acquires his files, comes back and is all smiles 8-)
haiku ka ka choo!! :rofl:
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 11, 2006, 01:13:58 PM
And/Or maybe I should just track down whoever was in charge of the program I was in at the time and talk to them about it. Because I really want to hear what they have to say. Maybe I'll do that after I siege the DFAF.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: teachback on December 11, 2006, 01:30:48 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
You wanna go to the DFAF too ?? And walk in there and make 'em either hand us our files or give us some explanation or what ??...refuse to leave without one or the other.
Yeah, that was the idea, right..? That and/or tracking down whoever was in charge of the program we were in & talking to them about it would be good, and the more people that are in on these little visits the better...
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 11, 2006, 01:33:26 PM
Verily, I say unto thee, that I was held prisoner in the years nineteen-hundred and 85, nineteen-hundred and 86 and nineteen-hundred and 87 by a fascist mind-control cult financially and politically supported by the local government of Fairfax county, VA and the federal government of the United States of America, during which time many crimes were committed against me. This cult is now known as the DFAF. Drug-Free America Foundation. I was their prisoner for 23 months.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 11, 2006, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: ""Frank Discussion""
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
You wanna go to the DFAF too ?? And walk in there and make 'em either hand us our files or give us some explanation or what ??...refuse to leave without one or the other.
Yeah, that was the idea, right..? That and/or tracking down whoever was in charge of the program we were in & talking to them about it would be good, and the more people that are in on these little visits the better...
Yeah that's the idea. Just go in there real cool like and ready to stay cool for a long, long time and just ask for our files. And be resolute.
And then depending on how that goes I'll consider findin' some folks.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2006, 07:37:13 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Quote from: ""Frank Discussion""
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
You wanna go to the DFAF too ?? And walk in there and make 'em either hand us our files or give us some explanation or what ??...refuse to leave without one or the other.
Yeah, that was the idea, right..? That and/or tracking down whoever was in charge of the program we were in & talking to them about it would be good, and the more people that are in on these little visits the better...
Yeah that's the idea. Just go in there real cool like and ready to stay cool for a long, long time and just ask for our files. And be resolute.
And then depending on how that goes I'll consider findin' some folks.
You can't possibly believe that any files or records still exist...can you?? This is like chasing a dream......like trying to find something that lays still in the fog...just out of reach.
Maybe better to try and deal with the here and now..and what you can possibly accomplish today rather than yesterday.
Don't mean to upset your quest.....
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 11, 2006, 08:23:05 PM
Oh no! Of course not. I don't expect to ever see my file, not really, anyway. But I'm just jacked about the whole situation. And I feel like I'm gonna let 'em know what I think...
...Then again I wouldn't be all that surprised to find out that they've all been kept in digital format by some dept. of the government all this time.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2006, 09:45:50 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Oh no! Of course not. I don't expect to ever see my file, not really, anyway. But I'm just jacked about the whole situation. And I feel like I'm gonna let 'em know what I think...
...Then again I wouldn't be all that surprised to find out that they've all been kept in digital format by some dept. of the government all this time.
Do you really believe this?? To the people who were in straight it IS a big deal..but to the people who ran those type of programs..Straight....KHK.....LIFE.....and if there WAS any true government involevment..well....there on to the next big mind fuck with very lettle thought to the people who are now in their 30's and 40's so I sure hope you don't hold your breath for any digital format.
By all means..let whomever you think is listening know what you think...just don't be surprised when you find that only consists of the people on this board.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 12, 2006, 12:02:17 PM
(Me thinks to myself...)... ...
Aint holdin my breath in the least for it. I'm just sayin. I feel cheated and lied to and tricked and jacked about it and I got the fuckin mind to go right on down there and give 'em some of it!!!
I mean, really. Get the fuck outta my life!!! If ya think I'm gonna ly down for ya...
Take this ...
Didn't you notice all the crazy attention we got in there. No one pays that much attention to almost nothin. Those people were all up in our fuckin head-minds when we were too young to really know how to defend ourselves. They have the hearts of rapists. They are major criminals. Someone should bring 'em down. I'm not sayin nothin more than I got the notion to walk into their office or whatever they got and ask whoever I can for my file. The highest up I can get to(who they'll let me talk to). Now I don't really have a plan yet or nothin. Thanks. I'm just sayin...I feel like I got a right to know any information that they have on me. I feel like I knew when I was in there, that access to that file was gonna be important for me when I got out some day. I have fuckin rights! and even if I didn't there are certain things I will defend.
I'm fuckin Jacked!, man.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 12, 2006, 12:24:16 PM
They got no fuckin right to do all that shit to a 16 or 17 year old much less anyone younger...or older. That shit is all criminal. How come if I had been 18 when it all happened I could press federal criminal charges against 'em, but since I was a minor there's no crime ?!?!?....never mind I already know way too well.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 12, 2006, 12:28:16 PM
...don't get me started. I can go off!
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2006, 12:58:54 PM
you still here? Like maybe I should call ^.~
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 12, 2006, 01:17:11 PM
You're sweet, but I'm fine, I'd tell ya ta call any time, but I aint into the phone right now.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 12, 2006, 01:38:50 PM
I'm just sayin, honey, (and I look down an' shake my sorry head) when I think of the magnitude of the crimes against humanity and society as well as the littany of individuals whose basic human rights were violated by this fascist mind rape cult, then known as Straight Inc. but now known as the Drug-Free America Foundation and when I consider my own history with the cult and I realize I still haven't even heard an explanation from them yet, on any of this, when I basically, specifically asked for one I get a little jacked up about it.
I guess it'd mean somethin to me to be able to look at my file and remember everything so much better. I don't know... I just know I have a right to it, or a right to an honest explanation. And if I feel like checkin it out, I should have a right to.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 12, 2006, 02:19:12 PM
Maybe I'll come down to FLA with Frank and we'll stop by Rtp's and have a few drinks, maybe a couple of puffs and then ask Red Temple Prayer if he can maybe give us a tour of Miller Newtons retreat. Then we could party back at Rtps listenin to records an' such and gettin'all stoned up. And then in the wee hours break militant and recon the DFAF.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2006, 02:29:00 PM
Look on the bright side, you came out of the U.S. die-cast human tool manufacturing plant with all four limbs, unlike the young veteran I just drove past who sits on a skateboard all day with a homeless sign. George Bush stole his LEG. There ain't no St. Pete for him to go to, no door for him to knock on to get that back. Keep that in mind while you pace around on two whole legs fixating yourself on a manila folder with asinine scribbles in it and killing your liver all by yourself without even getting drafted.
If you do make it down to Marlene McCord's ass cleavage to get your file back, see if you can get files back for some other veterans of the drug war, like the former inhabitants of where there used to be a rainforest, or the children of Afghanistan who would have been a lot healthier growing and using opium than they are now in their graves.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: teachback on December 12, 2006, 02:36:53 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Look on the bright side, you came out of the U.S. die-cast human tool manufacturing plant with all four limbs, unlike the young veteran I just drove past who sits on a skateboard all day with a homeless sign. George Bush stole his LEG. There ain't no St. Pete for him to go to, no door for him to knock on to get that back. Keep that in mind while you pace around on two whole legs fixating yourself on a manila folder with asinine scribbles in it and killing your liver all by yourself without even getting drafted.
If you do make it down to Marlene McCord's ass cleavage to get your file back, see if you can get files back for some other veterans of the drug war, like the former inhabitants of where there used to be a rainforest, or the children of Afghanistan who would have been a lot healthier growing and using opium than they are now in their graves.
Heavy shit.. and very true, too!
Won't you join us for the liver & lung destruction, etc? We'll let you rant all you want to as long as you're buying! :lol:
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 12, 2006, 02:42:12 PM
Fuck lookin at the bright side. If I take that advice, I'll be takin it right up to the point when I realize that all along what I really been lookin at is the bright side of the executioners blade, comin to cut my neck.
What would be wrong with me goin down there and givin 'em a hard time about it, anyway ?? They're the ones who fucked with me. They're the ones who sought me out to destroy. They got it comin to 'em.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 12, 2006, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Look on the bright side, you came out of the U.S. die-cast human tool manufacturing plant with all four limbs, unlike the young veteran I just drove past who sits on a skateboard all day with a homeless sign. George Bush stole his LEG. There ain't no St. Pete for him to go to, no door for him to knock on to get that back. Keep that in mind while you pace around on two whole legs fixating yourself on a manila folder with asinine scribbles in it and killing your liver all by yourself without even getting drafted.
If you do make it down to Marlene McCord's ass cleavage to get your file back, see if you can get files back for some other veterans of the drug war, like the former inhabitants of where there used to be a rainforest, or the children of Afghanistan who would have been a lot healthier growing and using opium than they are now in their graves.
None of this has anything to do with what I'm even talkin' about. "look on the bright side" ?!?! Where you been ?!?! You tryin to make me feel guilty when I'm the one who was held prisoner and kept under duress ?? Fuck you if you are! I got every reason to be jacked up about it. The file aint even it. It's just an expedient. I got somethin to say to them muther fuckers!
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2006, 06:36:05 PM
S'ok Pirate. I ended up taking a nap. I stayed up too late again last night >< Let's talk soon though..... :P
And well, as far as the topic goes.. I agree, I usually do.
<3
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 12, 2006, 08:43:05 PM
What if I sent them another registered letter:
To whom it may concern,
In Sept of 2005 I sent you a registered letter, which I have the signed receipt for, which lets me know you got it, asking you to deliver to me my file from Straight Inc. and any information that you have on me. It's been over a year now and I've heard nothing from you, so I'll ask again.
I was in Straight Inc. in Springfield, VA from March 15th of 1985 to Feb. of 1987 when I graduated. Would you please send me my file from Straight Inc. and any information you have on me. Thank you.
If I hear nothing from you this time I am afraid I may be compelled to meet with you in person in order to extract some explanation.
Sincerely, starry-eyed pirate, la da la da la.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2006, 07:10:02 PM
So send your letter if you think it will make you feel better, hell drive to where ever this office is and go in and actually speak to someone if it will make a difference to you...but how many more years are you going to allow straight and the people behind it to consume you?? Haven't you given them enough of your energy already?
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: dragonfly on December 13, 2006, 07:58:23 PM
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: dragonfly on December 13, 2006, 08:01:40 PM
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: dragonfly on December 13, 2006, 08:09:17 PM
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2006, 08:30:09 PM
Quote from: ""dragonfly""
If I was consumed I would pretty much be better off...
as it is, I seek out my crucifixtion in the regular fire
of re-entering hell
in order to gain understanding
If you have ghosts, then you have everything..
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 08:49:25 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
So send your letter if you think it will make you feel better, hell drive to where ever this office is and go in and actually speak to someone if it will make a difference to you...but how many more years are you going to allow straight and the people behind it to consume you?? Haven't you given them enough of your energy already?
This is my life's work, my friend, I am an anarchist. I seek out authority and destroy it, as authority seeks me. This is what brought them to me in the first place. They know who I am. They recognize my nature and I theirs. We know each other from a long way back. I have no energy to give, but cannot deny my nature. I am like a tree growin' toward the Sun. I'm like a starrrr, man...burnin.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Fr. Cassian on December 13, 2006, 09:04:30 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Quote from: ""Guest""
So send your letter if you think it will make you feel better, hell drive to where ever this office is and go in and actually speak to someone if it will make a difference to you...but how many more years are you going to allow straight and the people behind it to consume you?? Haven't you given them enough of your energy already?
This is my life's work, my friend, I am an anarchist. I seek out authority and destroy it, as authority seeks me. This is what brought them to me in the first place. They know who I am. They recognize my nature and I theirs. We know each other from a long way back. I have no energy to give, but cannot deny my nature. I am like a tree growin' toward the Sun.
Precisely! No respect for authority was what landed you in a drug rehabilitation center in the first place! I'm sorry to hear that you have no energy to give, as you may need it when you wind up on front row at SIBS.
Love ya, Fr. Cassian Newton
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 09:09:44 PM
Quote from: ""Fr. Cassian""
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Quote from: ""Guest""
So send your letter if you think it will make you feel better, hell drive to where ever this office is and go in and actually speak to someone if it will make a difference to you...but how many more years are you going to allow straight and the people behind it to consume you?? Haven't you given them enough of your energy already?
This is my life's work, my friend, I am an anarchist. I seek out authority and destroy it, as authority seeks me. This is what brought them to me in the first place. They know who I am. They recognize my nature and I theirs. We know each other from a long way back. I have no energy to give, but cannot deny my nature. I am like a tree growin' toward the Sun.
Precisely! No respect for authority was what landed you in a drug rehabilitation center in the first place! I'm sorry to hear that you have no energy to give, as you may need it when you wind up on front row at SIBS.
Love ya, Fr. Cassian Newton
Who TF are you ???
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Fr. Cassian on December 13, 2006, 09:13:30 PM
I am the one, the only, Father Cassian Newton at your service, sir.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 09:15:08 PM
Quote from: ""Fr. Cassian""
I am the one, the only, Father Cassian Newton at your service, sir.
At my service..??
Somehow I doubt that...
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2006, 09:15:42 PM
I agree DF, I wouldn't use the word karma either.. there or in here, LOL. I agree with the: seeing how the past effects the present. When I started to live from that perspective, suddenly I wasn't consumed anymore. I was now ~enlightened and free. . I was pleased with the progress of seeing it (the consumption), not fearing it, and being able to step back a bit to see what i could change in my life today to further my ~healing/living process.
All these months.. when I'd say "I don't know what changed.." and I couldn't really explain it. You just expressed it all so well, what had happened to change my focus from sad/mad to Freedom. Once I could see how the past was effecting my present (ie: the ominus darkness of straight and after), I could be proactive in making some changes in the way I think and process those thoughts and emotions. I could be present in my daily life. It is living from this perspective, that makes me Free.
Pirate, I agree. If you need to go there and be in the presence of the people who possibly have your Info. Do it, but don't do it in a way that could take more from you than it gives. Do it in a way that will be a possitive result for you, no matter the actual outcome. I agree, it could be a grand event for you and many of us. Heck, what would they do if a bunch of us showed up at their door? How could they turn away all of us, politely. LOL I support your choice, whatever you decide. I'd even go along, if my life was diffirent =(
<3
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Fr. Cassian on December 13, 2006, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Quote from: ""Fr. Cassian""
I am the one, the only, Father Cassian Newton at your service, sir.
At my service..??
Somehow I doubt that...
S.I.B.S. IS in fact at YOUR service, Pirate. We intend to help you take on one of the most important battles that you will ever fight -- the battle against your druggie will. Sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees. We know because we've been there. You can't con a con. Only a former druggie can help another druggie work his program and deal with the life-threatening reality of a drug problem.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 09:26:44 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ...a few minutes please, while I drink...'n'such...
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Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 09:33:58 PM
Whatever SIBS is I doubt you're allowed to drink and smoke and fuck and fight there, which my nature requires of me. In which case I aint intrested. You're 1 of them shit talkin' muthers aint cha ?!?!?
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Fr. Cassian on December 13, 2006, 09:37:57 PM
If you want a good example of some good "shit-talking," I suggest you look at the "Relationship Issues" thread.
There's PLENTY of it there. :rofl:
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 09:45:47 PM
You aint nothin.
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Post by: Fr. Cassian on December 13, 2006, 09:46:52 PM
I am a priest of GOD! :flame:
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 09:48:36 PM
...'fact you might be one of the fuckers I'm lookin for... might be one 'a' th' son's 'a' bitches that I got to reckon with yet...who are ya again ???
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Fr. Cassian on December 13, 2006, 09:51:36 PM
Are you looking for Father Cassian Newton?
If you are, that's me. I'm willing to answer any questions you may have before your intake.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 09:58:41 PM
Are you associated with $tr8 inc. in any way or any of it's off-shoots??
You won't take me inta nothin. I am more than you can oppress.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Fr. Cassian on December 13, 2006, 10:03:05 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Are you associated with $tr8 inc. in any way or any of it's off-shoots??
You won't take me inta nothin. I am more than you can oppress.
Yes I am; anything you want to talk about, I'm all ears. Monday & Friday Night Open Meetings & Reviews, Nightly Moral Inventories, Days Off, Homes Rap, Morning Rap, Basics Rap, Oldcomers, Newcomers, Medication Line, Guys Rap, Girls Rap, Executive Rap, The Seven Steps, your Druggie Will, Straight Cook Books,Gone Way Down, etc. you name it....
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 10:07:16 PM
Quote from: ""Fr. Cassian""
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Are you associated with $tr8 inc. in any way or any of it's off-shoots??
You won't take me inta nothin. I am more than you can oppress.
Yes I am; anything you want to talk about, I'm all ears. Monday & Friday Night Open Meetings & Reviews, Nightly Moral Inventories, Days Off, Homes Rap, Morning Rap, Basics Rap, Oldcomers, Newcomers, Medication Line, Guys Rap, Girls Rap, Executive Rap, The Seven Steps, your Druggie Will, Straight Cook Books,Gone Way Down, etc. you name it....
...just a minute or 2...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2006, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Quote from: ""Guest""
So send your letter if you think it will make you feel better, hell drive to where ever this office is and go in and actually speak to someone if it will make a difference to you...but how many more years are you going to allow straight and the people behind it to consume you?? Haven't you given them enough of your energy already?
This is my life's work, my friend, I am an anarchist. I seek out authority and destroy it, as authority seeks me. This is what brought them to me in the first place. They know who I am. They recognize my nature and I theirs. We know each other from a long way back. I have no energy to give, but cannot deny my nature. I am like a tree growin' toward the Sun. I'm like a starrrr, man...burnin.
If this really is your life's work..than what are you doing about it besides trying to locate records that no longer exit and lamenting over what straight stole from you?
Are you involved with any youth programs where you live where your experience of being in straight might help other families from making that same mistake? There are a number of different places, shelters, etc. that would welcome a volunteer willing to help kids when they are the most vulnerable and truly in need of guidence.
Horrible things happen to good people every day and at the risk of sounding cliche.... this is the way of life. It's not whether or not something really rough happens to you that matters, it's what you choose to do with it when it does. Many years ago I had the fortune to meet a survivor from a concentration camp in Poland. She amazed me with her love and kindness but mostly with how she viewed her life. She said that while that experience had changed her...and she lost most of her family too, surviving it had made her more determined then ever to live her life fully every day, and that was what she had done. Scarred forever...absolutely..but able to go on and have happiness and love in her life, in spite of it all.
By all means, don't deny your nature, but remember as someone wise has said, that life is precious and short.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 10:16:04 PM
Father Cassian, just a minute...
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 10:21:19 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Quote from: ""Guest""
So send your letter if you think it will make you feel better, hell drive to where ever this office is and go in and actually speak to someone if it will make a difference to you...but how many more years are you going to allow straight and the people behind it to consume you?? Haven't you given them enough of your energy already?
This is my life's work, my friend, I am an anarchist. I seek out authority and destroy it, as authority seeks me. This is what brought them to me in the first place. They know who I am. They recognize my nature and I theirs. We know each other from a long way back. I have no energy to give, but cannot deny my nature. I am like a tree growin' toward the Sun. I'm like a starrrr, man...burnin.
If this really is your life's work..than what are you doing about it besides trying to locate records that no longer exit and lamenting over what straight stole from you?
Are you involved with any youth programs where you live where your experience of being in straight might help other families from making that same mistake? There are a number of different places, shelters, etc. that would welcome a volunteer willing to help kids when they are the most vulnerable and truly in need of guidence.
Horrible things happen to good people every day and at the risk of sounding cliche.... this is the way of life. It's not whether or not something really rough happens to you that matters, it's what you choose to do with it when it does. Many years ago I had the fortune to meet a survivor from a concentration camp in Poland. She amazed me with her love and kindness but mostly with how she viewed her life. She said that while that experience had changed her...and she lost most of her family too, surviving it had made her more determined then ever to live her life fully every day, and that was what she had done. Scarred forever...absolutely..but able to go on and have happiness and love in her life, in spite of it all.
By all means, don't deny your nature, but remember as someone wise has said, that life is precious and short.
You have given me thoughtful words to consider. Thankyou. I live with myself every day. I don't need to prove nothin to you. I live my life with a certain direction in mind, every day. Do you think I do any different ?!?!
I wouldn't waste my time.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: dragonfly on December 13, 2006, 10:24:52 PM
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2006, 10:26:34 PM
Quote from: ""dragonfly""
Anarchists, Cassians, and all that, Jesus God Almighty...
I just watched lord of the flies....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 10:37:43 PM
Fuck you Cassian!!!
I live.
And as "Fast" Willie Parker said: Thanks for the criticism it just makes me faster. Pirate-out!
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2006, 10:39:00 PM
Geesh! Stop responding to the negitive stuff! .... Father Cassian is ~another Dr. Fuktard..... just w/ a diffirent username this time.. Same people (people, cause it is known Dr. Fucktard and Cassian are used by mulitple regular posters, who just share those accounts).. And just use those names to fulfill some need to be sarcastic about what we say about straight...in an cute, ironic kinda way.
Sicker than "we" are imo :roll:
Now Pirate, sit back, relax and breathe =)
<3 The Goddess in me, sees the God in you.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2006, 10:41:40 PM
You have given me thoughtful words to consider. Thankyou. I live with myself every day. I don't need to prove nothin to you. I live my life with a certain direction in mind, every day. Do you think I do any different ?!?!
I wouldn't waste my time.[/quote]
You don't have to prove yourself to anyone, and most certainly not to me...I wasn't trying to offend you, only replying to what you yourself have posted. Deal with it any way you choose...I'll take my leave from here.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 13, 2006, 10:47:32 PM
Thankyou. Your posts were thoughtful.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2006, 11:10:25 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Sicker than "we" are imo :roll:
Yes, sick individuals indeed! How dare they do such a thing! :roll:
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 14, 2006, 12:32:47 AM
We all know...Father Cassian is just a big joke!!! Aint cha Father Cassian ?!?!?... :rofl:
Title: YOUR SOBRIETY!!!
Post by: Dr Fucktard on December 14, 2006, 09:15:50 AM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
We all know...Father Cassian is just a big joke!!! Aint cha Father Cassian ?!?!?... :rofl:
If you thought Father Cassian is a joke, then you'll BY GOD never 'get' the punchline! We tread the thin tightwire of the jokes just enough not to have been covertly killed or bought. MY GOD, look what they did to any of our predecessors that kept straight faces.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 14, 2006, 10:59:58 AM
Quote from: ""Fr. Cassian""
Straight Cook Books....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ...You're too much Father Cassian.
Title: straight
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2006, 03:32:46 PM
you make your own bed...stop whining and move on..until you take responsiblity for your life, you will always be a loser
Title: Re: straight
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2006, 04:18:37 PM
Quote from: ""fedupwithwiners""
you make your own bed...stop whining and move on..until you take responsiblity for your life, you will always be a loser
:lol: Where did that come from??
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 15, 2006, 01:11:10 AM
...Or what if we made a production out of it ?? In the style of a Michael Moore documentary. Frank or Rtp, can either of you work a film camera ?? We'll probably need 2 cameramen. One to film the interviews and one to film the one filming the interviews.
Perhaps we could walk into their offices, unannounced, with the cameras runnin' and the mics on, and tell them we are doing a documentary about $tr8 Inc. and are interested in the relationship between DFAF and $tr8 and that we'd like to know more about the history of the relationship between the 2 cults. Any chance Mrs. Sembler is around ?? We'd love to ask her some questions.
We could get some guy to dress up like and impersonate Michael Moore as part of the gig(for some straight faced comic relief). He would accompany us into the DFAF offices to help direct and get the lighting just right and so on. The Michael Moore parody character wouldn't be the main character, but would be like a side kick, like Ed McMahon, like we know Michael Moore, he's our friend, and he's graciously agreed to help us with our low budget amateur documentary about $tr8!
If you are interested in playing the Michael Moore character or can otherwise contribute to the production pm me.
:rofl:
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2006, 09:50:04 AM
Live by the gag, die by the gag! :rofl:
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2006, 09:51:33 AM
The gag is mightier than the fist!
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2006, 09:52:24 AM
Practical jokers, untie!
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Froderik on December 15, 2006, 10:56:02 AM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
Perhaps we could walk into their offices, unannounced, with the cameras runnin' and the mics on, and tell them we are doing a documentary about $tr8 Inc. and are interested in the relationship between DFAF and $tr8 and that we'd like to know more about the history of the relationship between the 2 cults. Any chance Mrs. Sembler is around ?? We'd love to ask her some questions.
I love this idea! :rofl:
We wouldn't mention that we were survivors, at least not at first...
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: NAILBOMB on December 18, 2006, 07:41:54 AM
:o BOOM :o
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 19, 2006, 11:28:58 AM
I should clarify. I never had no intention of violence, I just wanta "confront" some of these people.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2006, 09:01:13 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
I should clarify. I never had no intention of violence, I just wanta "confront" some of these people.
huh.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: lostnfound on December 22, 2006, 05:42:02 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
...Or what if we made a production out of it ?? In the style of a Michael Moore documentary. Frank or Rtp, can either of you work a film camera ?? We'll probably need 2 cameramen. One to film the interviews and one to film the one filming the interviews.
Perhaps we could walk into their offices, unannounced, with the cameras runnin' and the mics on, and tell them we are doing a documentary about $tr8 Inc. and are interested in the relationship between DFAF and $tr8 and that we'd like to know more about the history of the relationship between the 2 cults. Any chance Mrs. Sembler is around ?? We'd love to ask her some questions.
We could get some guy to dress up like and impersonate Michael Moore as part of the gig(for some straight faced comic relief). He would accompany us into the DFAF offices to help direct and get the lighting just right and so on. The Michael Moore parody character wouldn't be the main character, but would be like a side kick, like Ed McMahon, like we know Michael Moore, he's our friend, and he's graciously agreed to help us with our low budget amateur documentary about $tr8!
If you are interested in playing the Michael Moore character or can otherwise contribute to the production pm me.
:rofl:
Hey Pirate, been a while.
I like this idea. This would probably be the best way for you to get any answers - answers that you would be able to share with everyone.
Seriously though, what do you think they would say? What would you ask them? What do you want them to say? (I'm not being sarcastic here - these are legit questions) I'm sure in their own twisted way they probably believe the bull shit that they say/said. They probably believe that they were helping us - either that or I just refuse to give up on the human race. I would like to think that people out there really don't intentionally, maliciously hurt kids. If course on the other hand, look at all the child molesters (my father included).
I have my file - probably the only perk of being on staff. I pulled it out about 4 or 5 months ago hoping for an answer to something, though I'm not sure what the question was. I really didn't find anything, at least nothing that would make my stay make any sense. I did find that after I copped out, I was "groomed" to be on staff, as was my mother to being on parent staff. The hand writing that I was able to read (and Tim Kelleher's was one of the worst, right up there with Will Knisley) didn't tell me anything about why I was there. There were writings about the BS issues that I made up such as seeing my druggie friends when on 3rd phase, and the "insecurities" about the 1st outing with BOYS (oooooo). What they wrote about was the same shit that they made us say, you know - the good ole "I feel, About, Because."
I was trying to remember when we (staff) use to have to write the treatment plans. Most of them were simple bull shit. We would listen to what the kids would say in group and write what they said. Here is the problem, here is how the client feels about the problem, this is what the client plans to do to fix the problem. That's it.
I think that you probably hit the nail on the head. It's not really your file that you are looking for, but rather answers as to why they would do this, what did they think that brain washing us was going to accomplish.
I do believe in karma. Think about it this way - they will be depending on us when they are sick and old to take care of them. They will be depending on the social security system to retire, which will be non-existent. So who will take care of them? Us? I don't think so.
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Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 25, 2006, 11:46:57 PM
I don't know...I have my demons...
It's a short an' merry life for us !! 'Ey lads ?! :lol: ::hatter:: ::bandit:: :skull:
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 26, 2006, 12:10:41 AM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
I don't know...I have my demons...
It's a short an' merry life for us !! 'Ey lads ?! :lol: ::hatter:: ::bandit:: :skull:
So Pirate, what up? Still doing FL? PM me......
RTP
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on December 26, 2006, 10:56:16 AM
I tried to pm ya about a month ago, and tried again just now, I don't know if the wires are down or what, but I can't get through. The username, rtp2k3, just don't exist. You are a ghost in the machine...
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 26, 2006, 08:29:25 PM
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
I tried to pm ya about a month ago, and tried again just now, I don't know if the wires are down or what, but I can't get through. The username, rtp2k3, just don't exist. You are a ghost in the machine...
The user name is rtp2003, not '2k3'.
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Anonymous on December 27, 2006, 12:12:31 AM
O! ::ftard:: ::birthday::
Title: Things are seeming dark
Post by: Anonymous on December 30, 2006, 06:54:22 PM
I called Dr. Schwarz' pediatrics office in Ffx County to get my medical files from Straight. That led nowhere. But I did have a serious medical issue condition when I left. This one girl's dad was in the CIA. What about those "special files on special people" Marlene McCord was rumored to have and refused to provide? Can anyone verify the veracity of that? Who called them "special files"? Did the Sembler's admit to their existence?
Title: What night is...RTP
Post by: Antigen on January 30, 2007, 05:16:09 AM
http://TheAgitator.com[/url]""] January 29, 2007 Another Damned Drug War Death
to ponder (http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/012907/met_7636859.shtml), "If we're just selling drugs to addicts, I don't know what we're accomplishing."
Over to you, John Hawkins.
Posted by Radley Balko on January 29, 2007 The Agitator
I don't see a conflict here. Now would be an excellent time to get the hell out of the frozen north and down to the sunshine state. That thing in Jax is bound to be a blockbuster (pardoning the term) and to involve FDLE, the new Seedling governor, Charlie Crist and who knows what other skeletons in which closets. That would be gravy cause FDLE is already in bed w/ DFAF and the governor's office 9 ways from Sunday. And we have friends in Jax. I have some really old ones I haven't hit up in way too long.
When are we gonna see you boys on YouTube or Current or something?