Fornits
Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Covergaard on November 04, 2006, 06:05:23 PM
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I have just created a webpage on wikipedia about teen escort companies, because we all needs to know about this shortcoming in the US child protection laws.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_escort_company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_escort_company)
I could need some links to the law which allows such companies to exist and also in some kind of license is need to operate in this kind of business.
Please do not try to tamper with the text if you are an employee or owns a business or have been an unfortunately client of such a company. The rules of Wikipedia states that any article has to be NPOV (Which can be rather hard, if you are describing a program or a consentration camp.) but so are the rules.
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This article needs fleshing out with someone with better English skills.
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Good start, but readers may think it?s some kind of taxi service to take kids to traditional ?boarding schools?. Should read that they provide service to programs in the Troubled Teen Industry (link to Fornits, ISAC), as are Ed Cons?? and hired to take kids to TBSs (no article exists), RTCs (no article exists), EGSs (no article exists) and Wilderness programs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilderness_therapy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilderness_therapy) ), which should be edited to include links to the media articles on deaths. That article really understates the deaths.
Perhaps a link to the Ed Con article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_consultant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_consultant) ), which should be edited.
Could add a link to the news article on Rick Strawn of Ga.
http://www.helpingteens.com/ (http://www.helpingteens.com/)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... ge=printer (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A16875-2004Jul26?language=printer)
http://www.nospank.net/labi.htm (http://www.nospank.net/labi.htm)
And Mutt and Jeff
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t= ... ght=escort (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=4993&highlight=escort)
.... for starters.
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I knew that they can use handcuff.
What kind of other tools can they use within the law?
Eletric batons?
Peper spray?
And regarding restraints. Are they only limited to handcuffs?
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I knew that they can use handcuff.
What kind of other tools can they use within the law?
Eletric batons?
Peper spray?
And regarding restraints. Are they only limited to handcuffs?
mouth gags, etc? electric things aren't so much fun unless they twist or vibrate, but peper spray might be?
big question is if the escort service gives you choice of hair color, gender, or any specialties.
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You dont need tools to handle teenagers when you are a full grown man and you have a partner to help. Nothing more than brute force and handcuffs are necessary. It's the girls you got to watch out for, they might cry rape.
The one who cares
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But isn't that what you ultimately intend, child abuser?
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If we don't display information about the existense of such companies, then we can't get our politicians to outlaw them.
As a Dane, I was shocked to learn that such a cruel thing is allowed in your country.
Denmark is not perfect by any means, but if someone outside Denmark helps us out by pointing out our errors, we would be glad to help you out.
And my hope is that I one day can enter a statement, that would tell the readers that such firms EXISTED - not EXIST.
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How did you stumble across the existence of this industry?
is much known of it in europe? There certainly is not anything known here.
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I am half Dane and half Finn. During my childhood I had problems being fitted in like everyone that comes to Denmark with a different background. We are a small culture and are used to be supressed by either those crazy people from Sweden or nazis from Germany. That makes us suspicious. I can now say us, because I have found my place.
I have never used drug and alcohol is no problem because it is legal for Danes to buy it legally once they are 16.
Then one day a Danish television broadcasted "Brat Camp". I know that I could have ended up in such a place if it were legal in Denmark. So I investigated and found out that the industri acts like our institutions did some 30 years ago. Yes we had abuse then, beating was a cheaper way of keeping the poor childs warm during winter than a central heating system.
But I also recognized that the zero-tolerance against drug had opened a window of posible abuse. If we adopt your way of doing thing, Danish children would be victim of abuse.
Just a few years ago it was shameful to consult a Ed con - so shameful in deed that people changed their names when they were diagnosed out of respect of their family. Now everyone seems to need treatment and we are not so good to question the qualifycations of the doctors, if they are doctors at all.
For once I would work for that no Dane can undergo treatment without courtorder or voleentary commitment. At no point, the decision about treatment should be done by the parents alone. Teen escort must not at any point be legal in Denmark. If a court decided that a child need treatment, the court must order athorities to remove the child from home. Only then we can ensure that unnecessary force against a child can be prevented.
So in order to stop us from adopting your way, I use every chance to publish knowledge about abuse. I hope that answers your question.
BTW. Nabi's article has been translated into Danish and the largest newspaper in Denmark published the story.
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If we don't display information about the existense of such companies, then we can't get our politicians to outlaw them.
As a Dane, I was shocked to learn that such a cruel thing is allowed in your country.
Denmark is not perfect by any means, but if someone outside Denmark helps us out by pointing out our errors, we would be glad to help you out.
And my hope is that I one day can enter a statement, that would tell the readers that such firms EXISTED - not EXIST.
It's not my country.
There are moves in parliament to enact a law that makes sending a child abroad to be treated in this fashion punishable in the same way as if it happened in the UK.
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I'm glad the Dane stepped up too. Thank you.
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Readers should also know that there are some legitamate Intervention Companies who do not use peper spary and only use cuffs when needed. There are allot of BS companies, but there are some that really care about the kids. You should show both sides not just one.
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A lot of child abusers believe they are helping the kids.
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Readers should also know that there are some legitamate Intervention Companies who do not use peper spary and only use cuffs when needed.
What the fuck? When you need to make sure the kids get abused in the hellhole of no choice?
There are allot of BS companies, but there are some that really care about the kids.
If you really cared, shitbag, you'd drive them to a safehouse in Canada.
You should show both sides not just one.
You want both sides? Okay. Here's the other side... of a telephone conversation.
"Crotchet residence. Ya who? Milk Garg.. what? What kind of name is that? YEAH, I'm a communism fighter! Spent five years fighting those damn dinks, if that rat bastard would have let us bomb Hanoi it would have been over in.. what? Ya'll ain't serious. ... Ya'll AIN'T serious. ... Ya'll's serious. Now ya'll want me to what? Oh, I gotcha. You gonna.. oh, I gotcha. They'll come right to my.. yeah, I know how.. yeah, I can tell them.. I gotcha. All right. Ya'll take it easy."
later
*knock* *knock* "Hello, Mr. Crotchet? We're Natas youth.. transport.. services..."
*BLAM!!*
"Ya'll GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKERS! I didn't fucking watch my buddies get their legs blown off fighting the goddamn Reds just so I could" *BLAM!!* "come home and let you shiteating bastard cowards" *BLAM!!* "start fucking taking kids out in the middle of the night" *BLAM!!* "to be 'behavior modified' in some goddamn fucking gulag! We WON the Cold War, dammit!!"
*BLAM!!* *BLAM!!* *BLAM!!*
"Hello, City Sanitation? I've got some trash I need picked up off my doorstep."
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It ain't funny.
To a sadist, it is. This all is.
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For real, beyond-everything, psychopathic sadists who don't even need to pretend they're helping anyone, Fornits is an absolute laugh riot, a black comedy of immense proportions. Parents paying their life savings to have their children permanently hurt? Come on, if none of this was real, this would make for a horror movie that they might not even be able to show in theaters. I prefer my horror Jason-style, though. I mean, if you're going to get your fear on watching teenagers get hurt, I say just go with the standbys of chainsaws and axes instead of this psychological bullshit.
And yes, for the retards in the audience (particularly the escort retard who can't spell or use grammar), that was pure fiction. Mr. Crotchet doesn't actually exist, nor am I likely to find anyone like him.
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Readers should also know that there are some legitamate Intervention Companies who do not use peper spary and only use cuffs when needed. There are allot of BS companies, but there are some that really care about the kids. You should show both sides not just one.
I've heard something like that before...Oh yeah, Nazi guards when they were put on trial..."Ja, I hated it, but it was my duty(job)" whatever.
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Our company cares about these kids, It is the hardest decsion a parent makes to send thier kid away and my exsperience is it is also a last resort, they are afraid that thier child will end up dead or in jail and I know you will just say that is program BS, but most of the kids I pcik up it is true. So Ex-Army boy and whoever else, I am on the kids side, but I should take them to a safe house in canada, what is that jsut a place where kids can run wild and do waht ever they please? You are all so Fing twisted in your views, every school is not abusive and there are hundreads. Just like transporters, I have never hit a child or have a child swing on me.
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I would kick your faggot ass in if I had any chance to do so.
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Our company cares about these kids, It is the hardest decsion a parent makes to send thier kid away and my exsperience is it is also a last resort, they are afraid that thier child will end up dead or in jail and I know you will just say that is program BS, but most of the kids I pcik up it is true.
Then technically, and based on what most websites advertise, a program is not where they should be.
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Don't joke about that stuff.
It ain't funny.
I disagree. I have a sick sense of humor and i find what milk said very funny. It runs in the family actually. We'll all be sitting in a movie theater, watching some serious drama, and some old lady will fall down the stairs an die. We'll all burst out laughing (while the entire audience turns to look at us with a look i can't quite describe). Eeh. I lived in Ireland for too long. Most comedies there end with everybody dying.
@ Covergaard: Props to you for your efforts. Even if you're overseas, it still helps to know there's another person out there shining light in dark corners.