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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 04, 2006, 07:35:24 AM
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Does HLA (not Ridge Creek) use physical restraints? Does
anyone have personal knowledge ?
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Physical restraint was used in 2001.
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yeah they did from 2002-2004 as well, but ehy only use them in pretty extreeme cases (unlike Ridge Creek, where ive seen a kid restrained just for refusing to follow direction).
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HLA has many of their employees go through a training called TACT that teaches proper physical restraint techniques. Much of the training is focused on how to avoid getting into a restraint through talking. TACT does teach proper holds that are designed to keep the child and the staff safe. If there were a situation that required a restraint (which was rare) one of the people that were trained in TACT prodeedures would be called in.
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Many of the staff?
Does HLA disclose that restraint is used?
My manual states that they are a restraint free facility.
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Restraints are to only be used if the child is hurting themselves or someone else.
Let me clarify "many". Two or three times per year HLA trains around 15 staff members in TACT proceedures.
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HLA has many of their employees go through a training called TACT that teaches proper physical restraint techniques. Much of the training is focused on how to avoid getting into a restraint through talking. TACT does teach proper holds that are designed to keep the child and the staff safe. If there were a situation that required a restraint (which was rare) one of the people that were trained in TACT prodeedures would be called in.
This is bologna. I have personally witnessed completely untrained staff taking down kids like they were in the WWE. I've seen this done in very, very dangerous ways...
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What I wrote about staff being trained in TACT proceedures is absolutely true. I do not discount your experience though. I fully believe that you witnessed staff restrain kids in very inappropriate ways. In fact, I believe that is one of the reasons HLA started having their staff trained to do it appropriately.
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HLA has many of their employees go through a training called TACT that teaches proper physical restraint techniques. Much of the training is focused on how to avoid getting into a restraint through talking. TACT does teach proper holds that are designed to keep the child and the staff safe. If there were a situation that required a restraint (which was rare) one of the people that were trained in TACT prodeedures would be called in.
This is bologna. I have personally witnessed completely untrained staff taking down kids like they were in the WWE. I've seen this done in very, very dangerous ways...
Have you contacted Kit Wallace at DHR describing what you witnessed? This is something that she wants to know about.
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Nothing in my manual (dated 2005-2006) about restraints.
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HLA has many of their employees go through a training called TACT that teaches proper physical restraint techniques. Much of the training is focused on how to avoid getting into a restraint through talking. TACT does teach proper holds that are designed to keep the child and the staff safe. If there were a situation that required a restraint (which was rare) one of the people that were trained in TACT prodeedures would be called in.
This is bologna. I have personally witnessed completely untrained staff taking down kids like they were in the WWE. I've seen this done in very, very dangerous ways...
Have you contacted Kit Wallace at DHR describing what you witnessed? This is something that she wants to know about.
Kit Wallace
706.864.1839
[email protected]
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Restraints are to only be used if the child is hurting themselves or someone else.
Completely false.
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Again, I am stating what is SUPPOSED to happen according to HLA policy. I am not saying that staff never went against policy. I am sure that did happen. There were also many times that restraining a kid was neccessary. I do agree, though, that it should be in the parent handbook.
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Didn't we hear a story a short time ago about a kid having his arm broken, this done by some of these "trained staff" members youre speaking of.
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Yes, we have. And also a kid getting his face smashed into gravel and tearing it up pretty bad. Plus several dozen other stories.
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Again, I am not disputing your stories. Though, I believe the broken arm was from a flag football game accident. This may be two separate stories though.
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Restraints are to only be used if the child is hurting themselves or someone else.
Let me clarify "many". Two or three times per year HLA trains around 15 staff members in TACT proceedures.
That is a big load of shit. I was restrained 4 or 5 times while I was at HLA and I was not hurting anybody or myself. I ran around the inside of the lodge, out of it and back through it again and was restrained by lee and brian alano.
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Why were you running in and out of the lodge?
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Exercise.
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rob hyde wouldn't stop yelling at me. i started to walk away from him and he ran after me, so i ran away from him. he's not the most fun person to have chasing after you.
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Why were you running in and out of the lodge?
Why would it matter why a kid is running if restraints are only used if a kid is endangering their own kife or that of others?
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It doesnt. Sensai would appreciate it if you would stop asking him questions though. This is about us not him. He was instructed by the Buch to only get information not give it. Got it? Good.
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It doesnt. Sensai would appreciate it if you would stop asking him questions though. This is about us not him. He was instructed by the Buch to only get information not give it. Got it? Good.
very true. see how sensai stopped responding when questions were asked about his/her interest in HLA?
sensai is definitely not a current employee, unless, of course, HLA has opened a facility in florida. i've seen quite a few ex-employees though that like to come on here and kick some kids around like the good ol' days. sensai will either disappear or ratchet it up severely.
i suspect we've heard the last of sensai, but, of course, s/he can always come back with aother name or as anon. i'll bust him/her out if it happens.
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True. So Sensai how is Live Oak this time of year?
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Sean reposa had his arm broken during a football game when he was tackled by Danny Prevale. A staff member at the time. I saw this happen.
My best friend Alex was restrained in the lodge after he had an argument with another student. Alex was confronted by Jose, a former employee (ac staff) and alex exchanged words with him and walked off while very angry, Jose then proceded to restrain him, hitting Alexs head on the wall and giving him a concusion. He was taken to the hospital, taken back to school, and slept in the admin with John McMillan. Doug sills later called alex's parents and said he was fine and there was no damage done to him.
I like the honest level of the staff. They care about the kids.
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funny how people who know nothing about what happens comment as if they do. Talk about honesty, the level of hipocrasy that shows up on this website on a daily basis is astounding.
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Is it now?
Please cite off specifically what you believe we are misinformed about.
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Sean reposa had his arm broken during a football game when he was tackled by Danny Prevale. A staff member at the time. I saw this happen.
My best friend Alex was restrained in the lodge after he had an argument with another student. Alex was confronted by Jose, a former employee (ac staff) and alex exchanged words with him and walked off while very angry, Jose then proceded to restrain him, hitting Alexs head on the wall and giving him a concusion. He was taken to the hospital, taken back to school, and slept in the admin with John McMillan. Doug sills later called alex's parents and said he was fine and there was no damage done to him.
I like the honest level of the staff. They care about the kids.
I'm certain HLA was so very helpful and the parents obtained a copy of the incident report right away without having to go through Q&Q (said with extreme sarcasm).
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Sean reposa had his arm broken during a football game when he was tackled by Danny Prevale. A staff member at the time. I saw this happen.
My best friend Alex was restrained in the lodge after he had an argument with another student. Alex was confronted by Jose, a former employee (ac staff) and alex exchanged words with him and walked off while very angry, Jose then proceded to restrain him, hitting Alexs head on the wall and giving him a concusion. He was taken to the hospital, taken back to school, and slept in the admin with John McMillan. Doug sills later called alex's parents and said he was fine and there was no damage done to him.
I like the honest level of the staff. They care about the kids.
Are you talking about Alex Bigger?
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I've witnessed Hidden Lake Employees use physical restraint on a female student when the student failed to listen to the staff members and stop approaching a car I was in. The Student was not causing any harm, only showing concern and compassion for me.