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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) => Topic started by: Anonymous on August 26, 2006, 05:48:26 PM
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WWASPS is being sued again, this time by a family whose son was abused in their High Impact and Cross Creek programs.
Here is a link to a press release done by CAICA:
http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=19171 (http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=19171)
A link to the Complaint:
http://caica.org/Wood%20Complaint.pdf (http://caica.org/Wood%20Complaint.pdf)
And an article:
Prominent and Prestigious Turley Law Firm and Famed Attorney
Richard Henriksen File Lawsuit Against WWASPS
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Sorry, here's the article:
http://caica.org/NEWS%20-%20WWASP%20in% ... -26-06.htm (http://caica.org/NEWS%20-%20WWASP%20in%20court%20Chase%20Wood%208-26-06.htm)
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Yeah? Really? Which non-WWASPS program did Sue refer him to next? :roll:
You guys act like you're doing something different or better than WWASPS. You're not.
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Yeah? Really? Which non-WWASPS program did Sue refer him to next? :roll:
You guys act like you're doing something different or better than WWASPS. You're not.
I've never abused someone under my care or control. I've never taken someone out of their home under cover of darkness. I've never told a parent I could cure the kid who had problems,when I was totally unqualified to do so. I've never lied to a parent about the education their kid would get, knowing they wouldn't get ANY that anyone would accept. The list goes on and on. Just how am I no better or no different than WWASPS?
Survivor of SCL
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Let the kid sue, keep the parents out of it.
Ignorance is no excuse. These parents were not held captive. They could and should have followed up on their kids' care and treatment.
Sorry, but this is getting old. Time for the parents to be held equally accountable for abandoning their child under the guise of "tough love". You get what you pay for when you abdicate your responsibility to a "program" to raise your child. That's abuse right there.
Let the kid sue. He/She is the one who paid the real price. The parents lost money. The kid lost a part of their life they can never get back.
Sue the parents as a co-conspirator. That's what they are.
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Let the kid sue, keep the parents out of it.
Ignorance is no excuse. These parents were not held captive. They could and should have followed up on their kids' care and treatment.
Sorry, but this is getting old. Time for the parents to be held equally accountable for abandoning their child under the guise of "tough love". You get what you pay for when you abdicate your responsibility to a "program" to raise your child. That's abuse right there.
Let the kid sue. He/She is the one who paid the real price. The parents lost money. The kid lost a part of their life they can never get back.
Sue the parents as a co-conspirator. That's what they are.
THANK YOU! :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy:
Its about time someone made this about the actual victims here!
However, for legal reasons and the fact that until youre 18 you're your parents bitch, you cant be too pushy about that fact and let the parents get their attention to, unless you can show they were somehow negligent. :roll:
Its not that Im "out to punish parents" but the people holding everyone else accountable for thier actions should be held accountable as well. Even if its un intentional, they should still apologize and still admit some guilt.
Now, the ones who are just trying to ditch the kids or who were rather apparently negligent should bet sent to some punitive prison thats set up JUST like a program for a few months to let them see how it is.
REMEMBER, CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR ACTIONS!
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Let the kid sue, keep the parents out of it.
Ignorance is no excuse. These parents were not held captive. They could and should have followed up on their kids' care and treatment.
Sorry, but this is getting old. Time for the parents to be held equally accountable for abandoning their child under the guise of "tough love". You get what you pay for when you abdicate your responsibility to a "program" to raise your child. That's abuse right there.
Let the kid sue. He/She is the one who paid the real price. The parents lost money. The kid lost a part of their life they can never get back.
Sue the parents as a co-conspirator. That's what they are.
THANK YOU! :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy:
Its about time someone made this about the actual victims here!
However, for legal reasons and the fact that until youre 18 you're your parents bitch, you cant be too pushy about that fact and let the parents get their attention to, unless you can show they were somehow negligent. :roll:
Its not that Im "out to punish parents" but the people holding everyone else accountable for thier actions should be held accountable as well. Even if its un intentional, they should still apologize and still admit some guilt.
Now, the ones who are just trying to ditch the kids or who were rather apparently negligent should bet sent to some punitive prison thats set up JUST like a program for a few months to let them see how it is.
REMEMBER, CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR ACTIONS!
::rocker::
Consequences for your actions. Yup, hard to argue with something all these parents paid big bucks to goons to forcibly shove down the throats of their own kids on daily (hell, make that hourly) basis.
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I think that more parents should sue particularly if they were lied to about what the place had to offer their child. I dont think it is unresonable that they get their money back. i dont see that suing and taking responsibility for your part in the damage that the school did are mutually exclusive. Given that they are suing for the fact that their kid was at high impact which closed in 2001, it is resonable to think that they did not know the programme was abusive as there was not as much negative media.
For all we know the parents may have spent the kids college fund or a potion of it, found out what the school was really about and then removed the kid and are now trying to sue so that they can get their kids education back. This may be a real attempt to get something back for the kid. I don't think the parents can be judged so quickly without knowing the full story.
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As a parent that was duped don't be so harsh to judge us. We are willing to take the accountable and admit we were defrauded. In reality our kids needed help and I know many of you will never undertsand that, but as a parent we do our best. I was sent all that glossy BS, DVD etc. But after some time, my atennas went up and I got my son home. Unfortunately, I had to find another place. Not that it is your business, but he admits he needed intervention but not the kind WWASPS gave him. I will be calling these law firms and I am very happy that the one that beat WWASPS already is included, that is a bonus. I realize this site doesnt like CAICA and Sue but at they are productive. Before you jump on me, I don't know either one of them, but have followed both the websites. So as a parent, I am sorry for my mistakes, and as an adult, I will do what I can to help others.
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Fuck off, Sue.
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I think that more parents should sue particularly if they were lied to about what the place had to offer their child. I dont think it is unresonable that they get their money back. i dont see that suing and taking responsibility for your part in the damage that the school did are mutually exclusive. Given that they are suing for the fact that their kid was at high impact which closed in 2001, it is resonable to think that they did not know the programme was abusive as there was not as much negative media.
For all we know the parents may have spent the kids college fund or a potion of it, found out what the school was really about and then removed the kid and are now trying to sue so that they can get their kids education back. This may be a real attempt to get something back for the kid. I don't think the parents can be judged so quickly without knowing the full story.
Abandoing your kid under the guise of "tough love" is abuse in itself. These parents obeyed a stupid "contract" not their duty and obligation as a parent.
Who sends their kid to Mexico or Jamaica and doesn't talk to their kid or see them for months? WHO?
An abusive parent, that's who. No other explanation.
This is child abandonment.
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Abandoing your kid under the guise of "tough love" is abuse in itself. These parents obeyed a stupid "contract" not their duty and obligation as a parent.
Who sends their kid to Mexico or Jamaica and doesn't talk to their kid or see them for months? WHO?
An abusive parent, that's who. No other explanation.
This is child abandonment.
BULLSHIT! A family sometimes needs to undergo a period of separation from the druggie in order to break negative patterns of behavior -- the parents can often become what we in the profession refer to as "enablers" therefore the druggie must be extricated from that environment for a while. Although I would recommend SIBS over a WWASP program anyday (Who wants their druggie kid to have to get Straight by a bunch of ganja-smoking jamaicans, anyway??) I adhere to their basic philosophy of tough love.
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[I've never abused someone under my care or control. I've never taken someone out of their home under cover of darkness. I've never told a parent I could cure the kid who had problems,when I was totally unqualified to do so. I've never lied to a parent about the education their kid would get, knowing they wouldn't get ANY that anyone would accept. The list goes on and on. Just how am I no better or no different than WWASPS?
Survivor of SCL
have you ever referred someone to a behavior mod. facility or TBS?
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BULLSHIT! A family sometimes needs to undergo a period of separation from the druggie in order to break negative patterns of behavior -- the parents can often become what we in the profession refer to as "enablers" therefore the druggie must be extricated from that environment for a while. Although I would recommend SIBS over a WWASP program anyday (Who wants their druggie kid to have to get Straight by a bunch of ganja-smoking jamaicans, anyway??) I adhere to their basic philosophy of tough love.
YOU are the one who is full of bullshit. You are a liar and a racist and you are not "in the profession" in any way, "Doctor" Miller Bullshit. You can take your philosophy of tough love, plus a couple bottles of sleeping pills and a fifth of vodka and go take a nice nap for all of us. Please.
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You just responded to the official troll for this site. So you know. (There's a reason for his avatar.)
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Abandoing your kid under the guise of "tough love" is abuse in itself. These parents obeyed a stupid "contract" not their duty and obligation as a parent.
This is child abandonment.[/quote]
If in 2001 before the abuses became commonly known, you sent your kid imagining that they would be able to work their way up the levels within a period of a month or 2 & you were advised this by the WWASP sales people, then it is unfair to say you deliberately abandoned your child. I knew I was going to open a can of troll worms by saying this but it is unfair to judge without knowing all the circumstances.
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Wonder how the parents of this young feel about IZZY posting this complaint without blacking out the name of this young man who was a minor when these gross injustices were done to him while he was at the WWASP facilities?
Wonder if IZZY even bothered to ask?
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Wonder how the parents of this young feel about IZZY posting this complaint without blacking out the name of this young man who was a minor when these gross injustices were done to him while he was at the WWASP facilities?
Wonder if IZZY even bothered to ask?
Izzy is the most unscrupulous, or just the most scatterbrained lawyer ever.
And dont get me started on sue :roll:
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ST posted a copy of the Wood suit:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/WWASP.WoodCpl.pdf (http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/WWASP.WoodCpl.pdf)
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Yup, I read it. The thing is, they give out way too much personal information. They give out all their addresses including a therapists address, who doesn't need to have his privacy invaded. We all can find that info anyway, but why make it so easy?
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What YOU TOO can receive from a stay at a WWASP facility:
1. Unsanitary living conditions
2. Lack of food
3. Denial of medical care
4. Exposure to cold temperatures for long periods of time
5. Forced physical excercise beyond capacity
6. Long periods of isolation in basements, in stress positions
7. Kicked, beaten, slammed to the ground, restrained, humiliated
8. Chained and locked in dog cages, tied by wrists and ankles
9. Forced to clean and scrub toilets and floors with toothbrush, then forced to use toothbrush afterwards
10. Forced to carry heavy bags of sand around his neck
11. Forced to wash dishes with his hand and sand
12. Forced to eat his own vomit
13. Sexual abuse, masturbation and fondling performed on him
14. Emotional abuse due to complete isolation
15. Isolation and lack of education left him unprepared for entering outside world upon departure
16. Forced to work for no compensation
17. Witnesss of repeated kicking, beating, humiliating and restraining of other kids
Hey parents, call the escorts and send your kid today! Okay? This doesn't sound that bad does it?
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Wonder how the parents of this young feel about IZZY posting this complaint without blacking out the name of this young man who was a minor when these gross injustices were done to him while he was at the WWASP facilities?
Wonder if IZZY even bothered to ask?
Izzy is the most unscrupulous, or just the most scatterbrained lawyer ever.
And dont get me started on sue :roll:
Surely you don't believe IZZY is a lawyer?!
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Whatever happened to the civil case that was filed in Los Angeles, Ca.? It was filed on 5/27/05 and the plantiffs were represented by Ed Masry & Henry Bushkin. I know Ed Masry passed away, but there were a lot of parents and former students who were named plantiffs in this case?
Does anybody know? Did it fall through the cracks?
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Did it fall through the cracks?
Yeah, they just forgot about it. :roll:
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http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/WWASP.WoodCpl.pdf (http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/WWASP.WoodCpl.pdf)
It is amazing this these shit-holes are still allowed to operate. Have a read. If this doesn't turn your stomach, you're a billy goat.
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Izzy is the most unscrupulous, or just the most scatterbrained lawyer ever.
And dont get me started on sue :roll:[/quote]
Izzy is not a lawyer. Her highest level of education is a GED. She was a secretary for a law firm and they fired her. She filed bankruptcy.
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Izzy is the most unscrupulous, or just the most scatterbrained lawyer ever.
And dont get me started on sue :roll:
Izzy is not a lawyer. Her highest level of education is a GED. She was a secretary for a law firm and they fired her. She filed bankruptcy.
Yanno, this plus what my DADS lawyer tried in court yesterday, i.e. "Um, I think you did it wrong your honor" really makes me think that I should be a lawyer...
Because its obviously not that hard to take insane sums of money and jackass it up in a court room, now is it?