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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => News Items => Topic started by: Anonymous on January 10, 2003, 06:13:00 PM
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You just keep on telling yourself that, friend. Maybe, if you try hard enough, one day you will actually come to believe it.
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So what's a son of a Supreme Court Judge from Florida doing in an out-of-the-way place like Calgary? Couldn't make it down there when places like SAFE & Straight are having their balls sued off? Using his connections to daddy to impress Jim Dinning, the Klein Konservative Kabal and the former PC bagmen who've become Kalgary judges to help in fundraising for a worthy cause????? Only a matter of time before AARC will follow in the footsteps...........
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And if he is so well qualified, where is the peer-reviewed research that supports his "groundbreaking methods"
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The guy is a pathetic piece of thrash
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Too bad he is actually from Saskatoon..eh???? Way to get your facts straight! :wstupid:
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You guys are fucking fags get something else better to do you fucking relapsed graduates. This is Barry Cameron come talk to me if you want to bad mouth Dr. Vause. You guys are so hurt. Do something with your fucking lives.
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I agree with Barry He is a good friend of mine, YOu guys are bitter People AARC saved my life, without AARC I would be nowhere
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This is Evan Van Reekum, I don't understand how somebody could badmouth somebody like Dr. Dean Vause.
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I do know Dean Vause. And I don't care what he has done or where he is from and I've done some pretty bad things in my life. But thank's to him, I don't have to do those things anymore because he released me from the bondage of resentment. You people are chained by your resentments and will never know true freedom. I DO, and it's because of Dr. Vause and AARC.
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suck my dick Dean lovers
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Please try to use other ways to express your anger here. This type of language is something that the "Dean lovers" would use and I would like to keep that sort of thing out of this forum.
Thanks.
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"I do know Dean Vause. And I don't care what he has done or where he is from and I've done some pretty bad things in my life. But thank's to him, I don't have to do those things anymore because he released me from the bondage of resentment. You people are chained by your resentments and will never know true freedom. I DO, and it's because of Dr. Vause and AARC."
Translation:
I am a Dean Vause Robot. Dean Vause is my God. And I don't care what he has done or where he is from and I'VE DONE SOME PRETTY BAD THING IN MY LIFE. ~ but Dean showed me the errors of my ways. I don't have to do those things anymore because I have Dean now, he released me from the bondage of resentment, or that is, unless it were people like you guys threatening my cult, then I could be resentful. Therefore I will now say, You people are chained by your resentments and will never know true freedom. I DO, and it's because of Dr. Vause and AARC. Whoops, gotta go, it's time for my 24 hour reprogramming to begin. Dean where are you? DEAN!!!
:nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Dean Vause is the most dispicable piece of crap to ever trod the face of the earth ! :flame:
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well I have been wandering around all these posting about AARC some i find quite amusing and others well i have no idea. I am an ex Graduate and also an ex staff member. So i know instantly some of you may stop reading now. But i am very much NOT pro AARC i went in at 15 and was almost pushed into working there when i turned 18, well i shouldn't say pushed i wanted to work there at the time i was so confused and felt i could not live with out AARC my mother and all my friends were from AARC. I had been taken away from anyone else i knew because of AARC so i was left really believeing that it was the only solution to my life "be involved with AARC and you will be happy" i worked there for 3 years and then just last year was fired and fired for good reasoning. I stopped believeing, i started to not believe anything i was supposedly teaching. I was a senior peer and suppose to be a role model around there and everyday at work all i could see over and over again was bullshit i wasen't useing anything it was like one day i awoke to reality and i relized that i was 21 years old and was completly reliant on a building and its occupants i had no ideas for myself and my every move i made was known to the entire AARC world. There was no privacy really your not allowed to have a life out of AARC really the judgement is so brutal. By now i am sure there are people who know exactly who i am and really i couldn't care. But in my last year of working at AARC i came out of the closet that was so much for them to handle i was suppose to be supported there its Bullshit.In the prior 2 years there, i ran alot of girls raps almost every other day after i came out with this i ran maybe 3 in a whole year. But you know when it comes down to it the place helped me in some areas of my life but also gave me quite the mind fuck to. i am gald i got to experince that in my life it really taught me about the way people in society are and i even have some understanding to what there trying to accomplish there but when it comes down to there are many people in this world only out for them self and get joy maybe even pleasure off bring down someone even weaker to feel more powerful, I believe very much in the energy of people and believe there are people in this world who steal energy to pull others down. and i feel that alot if not everyone at AARC stole my energy enough that i was beaten down and would listen to anything they had to say. I wanted happiness and AARC taught me that the only way to be happy was to conform to their complete way of thinking. Thats not reality!! Though AARC has taught me some things that i have taken and continue to practice in my life i am not completly sober to their standards. They got me off the drugs which i am very grateful for but i still continue to drink and i have fun when its appropriate. I had fallen on hard times after they fired me due to the main fact that they told me over and over again that i would fail if i drank (the power of suggestion)and that was a huge mind fuck to get through, its hard to come out of a thinking pattern that you have had ingrained in your mind so yes i was failing in life but i picked myself up all with out them and started to relize that they were continuing to steal my energy cause i was giving it all over to them by continuing to dwell in there teachings of shit. so yes this turned out way longer then i expected but maybe someone will get something out of my ranting and raving. Well this is my shortened version of my story. so as the topic title of this i know Dean very well worked for the man for 3 years, but to tell you the truth he loves how people come on here and bash him he gets some sick pleasure off it but like i said he is still taking your energy.
let him go he's the way he is for some reason.
thanks for letting me ramble cause i really did.
yet another ex grad
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Welcome to the board Ex Staff and thank you for sharing your story. Isn't it interesting that someone comes out of the closet and they take them out of girls rap, but yet men are allowed to run girls rap? Doesn't make much sense. I'm glad that you chose to go out into the real world and become social again amongst the rest of society.
I disagree that Dean loves these boards though! Internet forums discussing treatment abuse equivalates controversey and lack of financial fundiing which is already taking place. Oh he loves to come up with excuses as to why we post, but it drives him nuts that he has to make up the excuses at all. Hmmm....Somwhere around here I have a really funny quote of his that he told a parent about these boards. I'll have to find it.
Anyways, I'm not sure who you are but thanks for sharing your story.
[ This Message was edited by: velvet2000 on 2003-09-25 18:37 ]
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Thanks Velvet
i would like to thank you for your words of encouragement all i meant out of the Dean loving the boards is that he gets a kick out of them i was on staff when they were first being posted and i'll tell you he was not happy but at the same time its all a joke to him. He has enough people around him who support his ideas that a board like this does not wory him at all. AARC has had bad publicity before but in the end parents are still putting there children in there and Dean is still telling little 13 year old kids that they can never drink again and if they do they will die so overall all i am tring to say is that he doesn't care he has enough of the richer people around Calgary supporting him and he favors their children but you can't get me started on the whole favortism cause thats a hell of alot of writing i have a lotd of thoughts on that one.
Thanks
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I have to say; it is really nice to have some other people on this board to share their experience's with aarc. I know in the past I have definitely felt alone in the struggle to share my point of view on aarc and vause.
Recently in Calgary I was filmed by the show 21C(connected with W5) and this program will be airing on October 4th. I am scared; I'll admit it. I am afraid of how they are going to make me sound; will I sound crazy and "just bitter and ungrateful" as I sure Dean would describe me. I guess we'll see. I am also afraid of any reprocutions that may come my way as a result of sharing my own opinion. I have been threatened in the past.
Thank you again ex staffer for speaking out; I too was on staff and know what its like to wake up and realize one day that what you're doing is wrong.
Anyway, haven't posted for a long time, so I'm probably rambling.
Thanks.
J :smile:
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...You're some bitter hey...1st Dr.Vause does get hurt and doesn't like getting hacked on. No one does.. Second do you remember how much we all care about you and were willing to show up for you. I remember seeing you at meetings and see you crying your face off because life was so shitty since you started drinking again..Your life isn't better than it was before...And no one gives a fuck about you coming out of the closet. You were one of the best staff members at AARC and it's hard to read that stuff you were writing. We always looked up to you so much. Get sober again. Have a happy life.
Your friend..I won't put my name this time.
Quick, Quick Velvet whatever and co. make fun of me, hack on me, feel good Quick....
[ This Message was edited by: velvet2000 on 2003-09-26 16:49 ]
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it has been a while you fat fucking bitch...Fuck yourself you are an ungrateful piece of shit, and an annoying prick no one respects once again ex-staff member , you are quite a large piece of shit...
::boohoo:: ::boohoo:: ::boohoo::
Here's some violins for you respectable fella.
[ This Message was edited by: velvet2000 on 2003-09-26 16:50 ]
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So it's better after quiting aarc and having no job no money and being a broke lazy fat piece of shit...I see quick i better quit my job and become unemployed for 4 months and blame it on aarc too. Oh and maybe i'll blame my mother's death and my dog running away and the fact i have no education on aarc and Dr. Vause too. Enjoy Life ..
Sorry about the anonmity, were you trying not to be found out hacking on AARC and Dr.Vause, fat fuck...love ya :question: :question: :wstupid: ::kiss::
[ This Message was edited by: velvet2000 on 2003-09-26 16:50 ]
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It's really easy to see from those last two posts that the AARC experience is really destructive.
So, somebody choses to say, "hey, I recognize that the experience I had at AARC was designed to break me down, disempower me, draw me into a cult, destroy any ability to think for myself. I want to be responsible for my own growth and behaviour. And I now realise that I, and everybody else there was being manipulated."
So what do the pro AARC people do? They resort to a string of vituperative epithets -- which is EXACTLY what the AARC experience has been programming them for.
Now, I'm tempted to say that those last two posts are childish, immature, name calling. But I'm not going to do that, because, I would suggest, their posts betray the fact that they really do not have any rational arguments to support their position The reason for that is that they have been disempowered by the very process they are trying to defend. And that's not their fault.
The unfortunate thing is that there are few, if any organizations that are designed or operating that would truly help young people that are in the position they are in. AARC, for Alberta, is probably the worst of a bad lot.
Good luck for you defenders of AARC and best wishes for your recovery from AARC. It may take time, but ultimately, I think you will realise how AARC has screwed you over.
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I edited names out of the last three posts. Obviously the content is the same. The first post was a different name than that of the last two. However if you feel that one of these posts may be directed at you then please PM me and I can provide you with the screen shots and IP info. Because of the nature of the posts combined with the disclaimer you can press charges if you so choose. Also just a reminder that if your statue of limitations to press charges are extended two years after the age of eighteen and you can speak with HamiltonF for more information on that issue.
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Why do you guys dislike Aarc so much....That's okay that you didn't enjoy your experience's with Aarc I think that's fine, but why do you find it neccesary to go on a personal crusade to destroy something that is helping hundreds of people whether it be the clients or the family's. I was bitter to when I was put in Aarc but no matter how I felt then I know my life is a lot happy now and I feel a lot better. And the only way I could of ever quit at that age is with the help Dr. Vause and Aarc has given me and the introduction to A.A.. I just don't understand this whole hate you have with Aarc there's so many people you're hurting and you don't give to shits. It's pretty sad. You people just fuel each other, and probably don't feel too good inside and like lots of other organizations it's very, very easy to blame Aarc.
I would like to apologize for my postings on Friday. What I said was completely outrageous and I discredited myself. The way I was speaking was totally my emotions and I should have used my head. I'm sorry for breaking those two individuals anonmity. That was completely uncalled for, I realize people come to these sites so they can speak their mind and not have to worry about harrasement and reprocutions. For that I am truly sorry.
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hey. aarc saved my life. I was in jail and now i work and go to school. Something i thaught i would never be able to do. And i dont care about all you aarc bashers, ill probably see you all on refresher in a couple months. Having fun smoking crack?
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You won't see me on a refresher.
As former staff (not AARC), I have to say whatever works for you, works for you. The fact that you are are here and have the opportunity to learn more about these sort of programs is an opportunity I never had. I do suggest you read and research the effects of cognitive restructuring and coercion and decide for yourself if AARC is guilty of the same maleficence as other STRAIGHT descendants.
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ya...wow! About that great ex-staff that is running her damn mouth...you lie. Simple. You lie. Come out of the closet?? Please...you were a unit from being such a hoe the last 2 years that a temporary answer to how fuked u felt was to be a dike...(just so everyone knows...she was riding around in her boyfriends new ram about 8 months ago...you aint no dyke...your just hurtin...odd for someone who is expressing your true lesbianism!! NONONO) Lies! What about sitting outside a liquor store for lengths of time before the relapse?? Ohhh lemme guess...THATS NORMAL!!! lol that is classic alcoholic. She a alky through and throuhgh...I know her well. You shoulda seen her when she came in...She has lied to you all...velvet everyone...I KNOW SHE IS LYING. Energy crap too, I see you have reverted back to your old hippie ways. LIES. What about when I got a call from you in the middle of the night asking me to pick you up from a certain city a few hundread killometres away cauze you couldent stop shooting coke with your brother....I suppose that was brainwashing to. This chick IS ALKY, pure and simple and is spinning off lies to all of this forum. I dont care for velvet to much, but seriously velvet...please dont believe this chick...I KNOW SHES LYING!
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I don't know who you are or who the "chick" who posted before you is, but why would you beg of me for anything? Do you know that you commit hate crimes? Do you even know what a hate crime is? Please, if you are going to spend your time submitting ignorance on the internet learn how to spell "fuked" at least!
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My misspelling was done on purpose. This forum does not does not deserve proper use of the language.
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On purpose? That's one of the most childish responses I've ever heard. I love how the "does not does not" comes right after it too. Classic.
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why does he call himself a Dr. Our understanding
is he has a non accredited degree that he has obtained from the internet.(Fake) i can get one. please explain if you could.
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it has been a while you fat fucking bitch...Fuck yourself you are an ungrateful piece of shit, and an annoying prick no one respects once again ex-staff member , you are quite a large piece of shit...
::boohoo:: ::boohoo:: ::boohoo::
Here's some violins for you respectable fella.
[ This Message was edited by: velvet2000 on 2003-09-26 16:50 ]
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Dean Vause is the most dispicable piece of crap to ever trod the face of the earth ! :flame:
No, that would be Miller Newton, Vause's mentor. I think Vause has some potential, but he's got a ways to go before he eclipses Newton in that department.