Post by: Antigen on January 16, 2006, 05:41:00 PM
http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/HLA/Ov ... .16.06.doc (http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/HLA/Overlordd.Fornits.1.16.06.doc)
Here's the consent order:
http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/HLA/Ov ... onsent.pdf (http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/HLA/OverLorddConsent.pdf)
And here's OverLordd's profile
http://fornits.com/wwf/bb_profile.php?m ... &user=2584 (http://fornits.com/wwf/bb_profile.php?mode=view&user=2584)
Joe, you just feel free to drop a comment once in awhile while you're reading. And please say hi to your brother, Mark out in Boone for me. :wave:
There go the people. I must follow them for I am their leader.
--Alexandre Ledru-Rollin
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2006, 06:13:00 PM
cc: Hidden Lake Academy Director of Operations (w/o Attachment)
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i could've sworn Suzanne claimed that Bill didn't read or post on Fornits. will wonder ever cease?
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on January 16, 2006, 06:14:00 PM
Post by: Antigen on January 16, 2006, 06:24:00 PM
I just think it's funny as hell, really. I mean, first, the very idea that they're going to all this friggen trouble and expense just to keep somebody like OverLordd from snapping photos? What? Talking to inmates? I don't know what they think they're preventing. From describing the geography?
Do they really think that intimidating college students helps their reputation or will prevent people from having just these same discussions elsewhere? Do they plan to sue everybody who ever breathed or typed the words Hidden Lake Academy w/o their blessing? I mean, come on now! You might just as well hold up a bucket of water from the Pacific ocean and declare "There now, no one's going to drown in this water!"
The industry is undone already through free communication. How long is it going to take it to finally show the good sense and decency to just lie down?
Government operates best when it allows all messengers to offer their views, allowing the American people to decide which take root and which wither away.
--Harold Furchtgott-Roth, member of the Federal Communications Commission
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on January 16, 2006, 06:35:00 PM
Post by: Antigen on January 16, 2006, 06:40:00 PM
Thing is, secrets had a limited shelf life even before the advent of a commercial internet. Now? You're trippin' yer brains out on pure groupthink if you think you're going to keep a lid on this. Sorry, it's just not gonna happen. Doesn't matter if you shut this one kid up or hassle every website admin who's server bears information you'd rather people not see. It's a losing battle.
Has it occured to you folks that if you have to be this circumspect about what you're doing, maybe it's not 100% kosher?
Infidel: In New York, one who does not believe in the Christian religion; in Constantinople, one who does.
--Ambrose Bierce
Post by: Troll Control on January 16, 2006, 11:42:00 PM
THIS IS A BUNCH OF FUCKING SCUMBAGS.
Post by: Troll Control on January 16, 2006, 11:45:00 PM
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On 2006-01-16 15:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ginger that was not the issue at all. Overlord in some posts threatened to do things to them and threatened to trespass onto their property uninvited. He also threatened to do several other things that are against the law. What he did was illegal. I don't think he realized it, but it was. It was far more than a simple issue of discussing his dislike for the school. It was terrorist threats."
IF IT WAS "TERRORIST THREATS" THER WOULD HAVE BEEN AN ARREST, NOT A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER YOU FUCKING DUMMY.
"TERRORIST THREATS" MY ASS.
YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 12:09:00 AM
Speaking of seriously creepy behavior, I hear tell that someone has been placing threatening phone calls to people who post to this forum. I don't know if it's people formally or otherwise affiliated w/ HLA or just some prankster. I tend to think probably the former. Anybody care to comment?
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 12:17:00 AM
So why demand that ALL of his posts be removed?
The majority, weren't even related to HLA.
Isn't that excessive.
I've notice many of his posts were edited. I thought this was over.
Post by: Antigen on January 17, 2006, 12:23:00 AM
I may have been born on a Sunday, but it wasn't last Sunday!
Any Irishman who doubts the reality of selective enforcement ought to take just a moment to comtemplate the etymology of the term "paddy waggon".
--Antigen
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 12:54:00 AM
what the world did he do? was homeland security called in?
how was he accosted? was he totin' an ak47 or a nikon?
did he enter up the main road in street clothes, or over the mountain in chamo?
Post by: Antigen on January 17, 2006, 04:24:00 AM
Seriously, though, do you get the sense that these people are completely blind to the irony? I think that they are, I really do. That little trivia point about the Seed connection doesn't hurt my theory one bit, either.
They talk SO much shit about anyone who dares call them on the carpet, then they go whining to the fucking FBI cause some local college student wants to take some pictures of the facility. That rather gives lie to the notion of the local community having regular, familiar contact and interaction w/ these kids, doesn't it? I mean, evidently, no one--not even parents, let alone local folks--are allowed within sight of the main campus.
They flagrantly disregard lawful custody orders, in spirit and letter, then cry Wah wah wah! But tresspassing is illegal!
Reality check, folks! Interstate kidnapping is a felony, tresspassing is just about the most minor misdemeanor on the books. You are supposed to be, not only responsible, mature adults, but you bill yourselves as experts in fuckin' w/ other people's kids! My God! How does one go about maintaining that level of delusion for so long?
And never mind all the mind games. I'm sure ya'll can fairly figure who most of the anon posters are around here. They're not just disrespectful, they can be downright evil. And who, I really want to know and I expect we will know fairly soon, who has been making those threatening phone calls. That can also be a felony.
I think this entire industry is just rife w/ people just exactly as crazy and dangerous as David Koresh or Chuck Dederich or Jim Jones or any of a number of sadistic megalomaniacs down through history.
"Now, I'm a walking dead man," ... "And what bothers me is that I'm dead because I tried to help the kids. And it's all the fault of all those people over there at the DEA." [Dead Man Talking]
--Ben Guillory
_________________
Drug war POW Straight, Sarasota
`80 - `82
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on January 17, 2006, 06:58:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 08:19:00 AM
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#112370 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10603&forum=41&start=0#112370)
What? Im where? no, my company was on manuvers, I got lost, I still have not figgured out this damn map....
hehe, ok thats enough of that... I really should stop playing around like this.
*spelling correction made[ This Message was edited by: OverLordd on 2005-06-24 09:12 ][ This Message was edited by: OverLordd on 2005-06-24 09:12 ]
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =10#112428 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10603&forum=41&start=10#112428)
Oh come on, you think im really gunna do that? Yes, if I get the chance I will cause trouble for them, and a hell of alot of it if I ever get into athority in the corps, but going onto their campus, thats alittle much, and I dont think I really would.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =10#112963 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10603&forum=41&start=10#112963)
Post by: WWFSMD on January 17, 2006, 09:11:00 AM
What were these "terrorist threats" he is supposed to have made?
Republican n. A liberty despising, money worshiping, control freak. Democrat n. A liberty despising, social engineering, control freak.
-- Anonymous
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 09:15:00 AM
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On 2006-01-17 03:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It wasnt just a trespassing suggestion. It was far more than that from what I remember reading. I think he made mention of doing harm to somebody or something. I cant remember specifically the posts but some were threatening in nature."
From what I remember, he threatened to harm people at a festival in town, that he thought the kids were going to be at. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 09:54:00 AM
He threatened guerrilla PR, not guerrilla terrorism.
Just because I post on a web board does not mean I am hiding. If I post anon, then I am hiding. I am easly contactable in the real world through his board.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =20#126739 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=11382&forum=41&start=20#126739)
I was hoping for a serious answer so I could indeed visit... unannounced, what I need is to know the best way to apporoach, where no one is, and how close I can get without getting spoted.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#131251 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=10510&forum=41&start=0#131251)
Hehe, I am watching you HLA... I am planing things for you... hehe, people will know all about you soon.
Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#137039 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12031&forum=41&start=0#137039)
What are you talking about? I'm currently going to north georgia. I plan to do some bad stuff to them. What do you know, what is your truth you talk about? Oh, and Does Hla do anything during Goldrush weekend?
Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#139941 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12047&forum=41&start=0#139941)
Dear mister bag head, nothing goes agianst a school like this but alittle PR campain, thats all I was thinking. Defacing another school is wrong, but I am not above making sure everyone knows whats going on.
Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =10#140084 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12047&forum=41&start=10#140084)
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 09:59:00 AM
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On 2006-01-17 06:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
He threatened guerrilla PR, not guerrilla terrorism.
Guerrilla PR...I like that! :tup: :lol:
Post by: WWFSMD on January 17, 2006, 10:05:00 AM
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On 2006-01-16 21:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
Speaking of seriously creepy behavior, I hear tell that someone has been placing threatening phone calls to people who post to this forum. I don't know if it's people formally or otherwise affiliated w/ HLA or just some prankster. I tend to think probably the former. Anybody care to comment?"
What is this all about? :eek: In light of recent events (this sudden fear of Overlordd) I'd really like to hear more about this!!!
It is criminal to steal a purse. It is daring to steal a fortune. It is a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases
--Schiller (1759-1805)
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 10:32:00 AM
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Post by: Troll Control on January 17, 2006, 11:00:00 AM
I am told that this is a felony. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping that their investigation bears fruit and that this deranged SOB gets hit hard.
I'll give updates as I get them.
Post by: WWFSMD on January 17, 2006, 11:10:00 AM
You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war.
--Albert Einstein
Post by: Troll Control on January 17, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
Unfortunately, these threats are misplaced. I have no interest or ability to shut down HLA and I have stated as much regularly. The only threat I personally represent to HLA is a potential one regarding their revenue stream. If prospective customers read commentary here, they may not buy the product. So what? there are plenty of sucker with plenty of money waiting in line to be fleeced. They'll get their money. No need threaten me with violence.
I had this to say on another thread. It sums up my position regarding HLA.
"I'm workin' it. It just ain't the same program.
Seriously though, these folks try to treat me as if I'm some scared kid that can be pushed around. I've been flamed, degraded, derided, defamed, harrassed, threatened, you name it.
I recently had threatening phone calls to my house in the middle of the night from a tip-traced line in Dahlonega, GA. My wife was failrly freaked out, and rightfully so.
Something these people are going to have to realize sooner or later is that I can't be sued, threatened, harrassed, intimidated or otherwise pushed off my position and if you fuck around with my family, you'd better be prepared to pay heavy in blood and treasure. I ain't no daisy.
The facts are what they are. HLA is an unlicensed RTC masquerading as a "traditional boarding school," and there's nothing short of obeying the law and treating the kids right that's going to make me stop jumping up and down and screaming about it.
There ARE some good people working there, I know that. I admire Len a great deal also for how he has built his business (business, not program). It's nothing short of phenominal when you look at what we started with there.
That being said, there has to be some measure of accountability, reason and sanity when dealing with young, fragile, developing minds. It would go a long way in my book if HLA just quit being so defensive and entrenched in denial about the real, palpable problems with their "program" (which doesn't work) and staff (that don't help) and put some of those remarkable profits into getting these kids some real help for their real problems.
I don't want to break anyone's ricebowl. That isn't going to happen anyway. Nobody is going to be "brought to justice" or any other silly notion like that. I just want to see these poor kids get what they need and deserve, and it isn't happening right now. And I'm not going to stop talking about it and reporting it to the proper authorities until it does happen."
How in the world this stance can justify threats of violence against my family is beyond comprehension. It just goes to show the type of people who are in this business. It's very sad commentary on their morality and principles.
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on January 17, 2006, 12:16:00 PM
Post by: Antigen on January 17, 2006, 12:17:00 PM
Same ol'e, same ol'e going all the way back to Chuck Dederich and as broad and shallow as the entire industry. "We're saving catastrophically fucked up kids here! How dare you question our methods??!!!!" (or, for that matter, question whether any particular kid is actually disordered to begin with)
These imaginary child monsters (a busload of Baby Faced Nelsons, as Charles Long once said on camera) can be insulted, degraded, silenced, physically punished and deprived of any semblance of civil rights. But you just go and ask a question these self appointed gurus don't like to talk about, and they're literally calling out the FBI.
Forgiveness is divine. Forgetfulness is just a mental dysfunction.
--Antigen
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 02:06:00 PM
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That being said, there has to be some measure of accountability, reason and sanity when dealing with young, fragile, developing minds. It would go a long way in my book if HLA just quit being so defensive and entrenched in denial about the real, palpable problems with their "program" (which doesn't work) and staff (that don't help) and put some of those remarkable profits into getting these kids some real help for their real problems.
Bingo.
Post by: Troll Control on January 17, 2006, 03:03:00 PM
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On 2006-01-17 09:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Until you know who placed these calls, do not assume they are coming from any sort of directive by the school itself. Whoever it is, I do hope they are found out, however, I doubt seriously this was an act that the school directed an employee to do. Their way seems to be more along the lines of legal action, not harassing phone calls. I do have a question, however, is your phone unlisted? You may consider having this done, as it is a little harder to find on the internet if it is unlisted. "
Well, I'm not making any conclusions as to who it may be. What's troubling though is that only people with whom I worked would know my personal information.
Whether one of them did it, I don't know, but the person who called me got my particulars from somewhere. I just can't think of any other "somewhere" that the information could have been gotten other than from people who know me from HLA.
I will know soon enough I suppose.
Post by: WWFSMD on January 17, 2006, 03:06:00 PM
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On 2006-01-17 09:17:00, Antigen wrote:
"Here's the thing, though. Just look around these and other industry forums. There's a funny thread in WWASP (I think) called 'Struggling turkeys'. These self deluded pricks aren't just pretending we're all persecuting them, they believe it!
Same ol'e, same ol'e going all the way back to Chuck Dederich and as broad and shallow as the entire industry. "We're saving catastrophically fucked up kids here! How dare you question our methods??!!!!" (or, for that matter, question whether any particular kid is actually disordered to begin with)
These imaginary child monsters (a busload of Baby Faced Nelsons, as Charles Long once said on camera) can be insulted, degraded, silenced, physically punished and deprived of any semblance of civil rights. But you just go and ask a question these self appointed gurus don't like to talk about, and they're literally calling out the FBI.Forgiveness is divine. Forgetfulness is just a mental dysfunction.
--Antigen
"
How true. Same thing with Mel and Betty Sembler and the DFAF. Just go ahead and try and talk to them about any of the abuse, policy making etc. and they'll attempt to shut you right down. Paranoid freaks that they are. A couple of people tried to view their non-profit papers (forget what they're called but all non-profits are REQUIRED to show them to anyone upon request), actually went to their offices. They closed the door in their faces and called the cops.
The more BORING a child is, the more the parents,
when showing off the child, receive adulation for
being GOOD PARENTS -- because they have a TAME
CHILD-CREATURE in their house.
--Frank Zappa
Post by: Antigen on January 17, 2006, 07:25:00 PM
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On 2006-01-17 09:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Until you know who placed these calls, do not assume they are coming from any sort of directive by the school itself.
Is that a confession? :rofl:
No, of course this sort of thing is hardly ever a corporate decision handed down through the organization. Neither is excercizing a kid till they puke or pass out or driving a kid to suicide or any of a dozen other very tragic occurances so common in this industry.
It's more a result of group-think and an unfounded belief in an imaginary cause so high and holy as to justify just about damned near anything.
Why do you keep harassing RB about his name and location? I gather from his posts that he's a young dude, trying to make it in life. Do you understand that you're not just pissing him off, but might actually be frightening him? Do you care? Do you get that, bad as some kids may act sometimes, it's the adults in this industry--those holding all the cash, all the power and all the cards who are the dangerous thugs in this story?
Nah, if you let that seep in you'd have to see yourself for what you are. And that might drive you to suicide or something. Never mind, please go back to sleep now.
--
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on January 17, 2006, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: Antigen on January 17, 2006, 09:36:00 PM
But it does help illustrate the true character of the industry and it's devotees. So thanks for your contributions. What, did you think everyone's welcome here cause I love everybody in the world? Sorry, no. I just want you to show your asses in public the way your collegues did to me and mine behind closed doors for all those years.
By 1940 the literacy figure for all states stood at 96 percent for whites. Eighty percent for blacks. Notice for all the disadvantages blacks labored under, four of five were still literate. Six decades later, at the end of the 20th century, the National Adult Literacy Survey and the National Assessment of Educational Progress say 40 percent of blacks and 17 percent of whites can't read at all. Put another way, black illiteracy doubled, white illiteracy quadrupled, despite the fact that we spend three or four times as much real money on schooling as we did 60 years ago.
--Vin Suprynowicz
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on January 17, 2006, 10:09:00 PM
Post by: Antigen on January 17, 2006, 11:01:00 PM
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On 2006-01-17 19:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
Please do not lump me into some sort catagory of evil doers, because, Ginger, you are quite mistaken about me, in more ways than one. And yes, this is SHH.
Ok, well I could be biased and just not remembering details too clearly. We could clear this up right quick, though. I could just assign all of your anonymous posts to SHH. Is it alright with you if I do that?
the war on drugs is but one manifestation, albeit a very dramatic one, of the great moral contests of our age -- the struggle between two diametrically opposed images of man: between man as responsible moral agent, 'condemned' to freedom, benefiting and suffering from the consequences of his actions; and man as irresponsible child, unfit for freedom, 'protected' from its risks by agents of the omnicompetent state.
--Thomas Szasz
_________________
Drug war POW Straight, Sarasota
`80 - `82
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 11:17:00 PM
In case your memory is failing- must be if you don?t know which state you reside in?.
?Licensure Questions?, beginning about here:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 110#157425 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12693&forum=41&start=110#157425)
after a short diversion into politics, picks up again about here:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 140#157550 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12693&forum=41&start=140#157550)
And, ?What?s Everyone?s Name? long about pg 3 or 4, now THAT was interesting
And, ?robert bruce is buchies puppet?, long about here:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =90#158083 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12700&forum=41&start=90#158083)
Post by: WWFSMD on January 17, 2006, 11:22:00 PM
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On 2006-01-17 20:01:00, Antigen wrote:
Ok, well I could be biased and just not remembering details too clearly. We could clear this up right quick, though. I could just assign all of your anonymous posts to SHH. Is it alright with you if I do that?
That would probably help a lot. Its easy to get lost in the anon posts, if we could at least link those the whole discussion would make a lot more sense. :tup:
And now the liberals want to stop President Reagan from selling chemical warfare agents and military equipment to Saddam Hussein and why? Because Saddam 'allegedly' gassed a few Kurds in his own country. Mark my words. All of this talk of Saddam Hussein being a 'war criminal' or 'committing crimes against humanity' is the same old thing. LIBERAL HATE SPEECH! and speaking of poison gas... I SAY WE ROUND UP ALL THE DRUG ADDICTS AND GAS THEM TOO!
--Aaron McGruder spoofing Rush Limbaugh
Post by: Troll Control on January 18, 2006, 09:09:00 AM
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On 2006-01-17 20:01:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2006-01-17 19:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
Please do not lump me into some sort catagory of evil doers, because, Ginger, you are quite mistaken about me, in more ways than one. And yes, this is SHH.
Ok, well I could be biased and just not remembering details too clearly. We could clear this up right quick, though. I could just assign all of your anonymous posts to SHH. Is it alright with you if I do that?the war on drugs is but one manifestation, albeit a very dramatic one, of the great moral contests of our age -- the struggle between two diametrically opposed images of man: between man as responsible moral agent, 'condemned' to freedom, benefiting and suffering from the consequences of his actions; and man as irresponsible child, unfit for freedom, 'protected' from its risks by agents of the omnicompetent state.
--Thomas Szasz
_________________
Straight, Sarasota
`80 - `82"
I think you should do just that. It will be interesting to see the differences in what shes says anonymously versus what she says when logged in. It will be a revealing juxtaposition indeed.
I'd be interested in the outcome of the threatening phone call investigation too if I were SHH, since she claims to know me and has posted my name publicly. I feel she is at least partly responsible for this ugly mess. Who knows...maybe the "mystery caller" will rat out whoever put them up to it?
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2006, 09:29:00 AM
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Post by: Troll Control on January 18, 2006, 09:45:00 AM
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Forgive my ingnorance...but how could you know who exactly who a person is, if they post anonymously? I, obvously, am not computer savy and am genuinely curious about how you could know that."
Well, I know who posted my information and she won't deny it. That's a no-brainer.
The site admin has the information of each poster. I've described this many times before. Each transaction made on the internet (opening a webpage, logging in to a site, even posting anonymously) leaves an electronic receipt that can be used to identify the particular computer from which it was posted.
It is a simple enough task for the admin to sort all posts by this information (instead of say, the date, or the time, or the forum in which it is posted) and link all the anonymous posts by a poster to their username (the "electronic signature" is the same).
So, for all of you arrogant, smug muckrackers hiding behind the bag when it suits your purpose (like when posting names or bashing someone), well, you're getting outed.
And it's going to make one hell of an interesting read, I can tell you that.
_________________
"Compassion is the basis of morality."
-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2006-01-18 06:49 ]
Post by: Antigen on January 18, 2006, 09:52:00 AM
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On 2006-01-18 06:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
Forgive my ingnorance...but how could you know who exactly who a person is, if they post anonymously? I, obvously, am not computer savy and am genuinely curious about how you could know that."
What, don't they teach computer ap there in
Cleveland? Seriously, though. I can't tell who's fingers struck the keys to create a particular post. But I can tell which internet connection they used. Sometimes that narrows it down to just one possibility, sometimes it's useless all by itself. But in this particular case, it's pretty much one person or (possibly, not likely) a couple of people in the same physical location.
The $30 million question is, of course, whether or not SHH will be willing to own her words.
If you want a voluntary urine sample from me it'll have to be a taste test.
--Bumper Sticker
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on January 18, 2006, 10:39:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2006, 10:53:00 AM
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Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2006, 10:55:00 AM
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On 2006-01-18 06:52:00, Antigen wrote:
The $30 million question is, of course, whether or not SHH will be willing to own her words
How 'bout it SHH?
Post by: Deborah on January 18, 2006, 11:16:00 AM
Does that mean it's a done deal?
Post by: Troll Control on January 18, 2006, 11:23:00 AM
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On 2006-01-18 07:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Well since I didnt threaten anybody anonymously or otherwise, I could care less if you find posts that are mine or not. However, I should tell you, I post from 3 different IP addresses. None of them are in Georgia. And I didnt post Dysfunction's personal information. All I did was call him Steve on a few posts. He called himself Steve on a Daytop post and from that I realized who he was at the school from that timeframe. That was no secret his first name. I dont know where he lives other than the state of NY, and if you had that phone call traced to Dahlonega, well then theres your proof that its not me. I dont live in Georgia. I havent been in Georgia in a long time. I live about 4 hours away from Dahlonega. I dont condone that sort of behavior AT ALL and I would have never done that especially over THIS topic. I post here about Hidden Lake, thats it. I am sorry you think I could be capable of that, but its not me, and I dont know who it is. "
That's simply untrue. You did post my last name on this site, as well as the last names of several other employees.
And, I'm not saying you did anything illegal either. What I am saying is that by posting the last names of several employees you put them at risk to be threatened by sick bastards like the who called me. So you are party to blame, yes. That's a fact.
You seem to be simply enthralled with trying to "out" posters like RB and myself. You'd better watch what you're doing before somebody flips it on you and you have to worry about your safety from some nutbag anti-program whackjob, just like I have to now deal with a nutbag pro-program whackjob because you put my FULL name on this site (and Kristen's, among several others) not just my first name.
If anyone does have any information that may lead to an arrest, please PM me and I'll put you in touch with the State Police BCI.
Post by: RobertBruce on January 18, 2006, 01:02:00 PM
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On 2006-01-18 07:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Well since I didnt threaten anybody anonymously or otherwise, I could care less if you find posts that are mine or not. However, I should tell you, I post from 3 different IP addresses. None of them are in Georgia. And I didnt post Dysfunction's personal information. All I did was call him Steve on a few posts. He called himself Steve on a Daytop post and from that I realized who he was at the school from that timeframe. That was no secret his first name. I dont know where he lives other than the state of NY, and if you had that phone call traced to Dahlonega, well then theres your proof that its not me. I dont live in Georgia. I havent been in Georgia in a long time. I live about 4 hours away from Dahlonega. I dont condone that sort of behavior AT ALL and I would have never done that especially over THIS topic. I post here about Hidden Lake, thats it. I am sorry you think I could be capable of that, but its not me, and I dont know who it is. "
Yes Bullfrog you didnt have a problem when you were trying to reveal information about me.
Oh and you didnt come here to talk about HLA, you came to spew off the propoganda youve been told to think.
Still waiting for you on those questions Bullfrog.
Post by: RobertBruce on January 18, 2006, 01:04:00 PM
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on January 18, 2006, 01:20:00 PM
Post by: Antigen on January 18, 2006, 01:25:00 PM
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I am not a great believer in school. School is primarily an institution for the perpetuation of adolescence...The thought that school educates is not one I have accepted yet...Thank God I am not young. I could not survive this horror.
--Peter F. Drucker
Post by: Antigen on January 18, 2006, 01:33:00 PM
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On 2006-01-18 07:39:00, SHH posting Anon wrote:
I live about 4 hours away from Dahlonega.
I suppose that's about as truthful as the spin on court ordered inmates; if you factor in drive time to and from airports, mandatory hour ahead check in time and all that, yeah, I could see it being a four hour trip. Or, to spin it another way, while you're 4 hours from Dahlonega, you do indeed continue to live.
But... why so disingenuous?
Lighthouses are more helpful then churches.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
Post by: RobertBruce on January 18, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
Post by: Troll Control on January 18, 2006, 01:37:00 PM
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On 2006-01-18 10:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I never posted Kristin's last name nor did I post yours. Maybe someone else did, but it wasnt me. I posted yours and hers first names only. I am not to blame for the calls to you either Steve. I dont know who did that and I dont condone it and I hope you find out who did it, because that is totally uncalled for."
You're going to be gettin a PM from Ginger shortly directing you to the post where you did in fact put our names, and many others, out for public consumption.
Since you did not log in (surprise, surprise) when you wrote it, you aren't able now to edit it. Ginger will assign the post to your username so you can do the right thing and remove the names. So, please, stop saying you didn't do it. It came from your computer and was verified as such by the site administrator. Be sure to check your PM's.
AGAIN, I never said you were responsible for the calls (nor do I believe for one second that you would ever do anything like that at all). What I said was that you posted my name, first AND last, and that is a very likely source for the perpetrator to have gotten my information. The calls began only a matter of a few days after you made that post.
Playing stupid little games like that put my family at risk of harm from some demented fuck that loves HLA so much he's willing to try to shut me up by whatever means necessary or scare me into believing that.
How would you feel if the shoe were on the other foot and someone threatened your babies?
Do the right thing, Suzanne.
Post by: Deborah on January 18, 2006, 01:45:00 PM
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#152575 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12933&forum=41&start=0#152575)
Post by: Troll Control on January 18, 2006, 02:36:00 PM
Use the search feature and plug in "SHH posting Anon" as the author. Have a read, and enjoy the work one of the biggest liars and hypocrites you are ever likely to encounter.
I told ya, Suzanne, you shouldn't have been telling all those fibs!
Post by: RobertBruce on January 18, 2006, 03:03:00 PM
You claimed you had never heard of Jim attacking any students, yet then claim to have spoken with an eye wittness who discounted my claim.
You took issue with Ginger posting the letters from Joe that included information about Marla yet had no problem trying to reveal personal information about me and Dysfunction.
You claimed not to know Aften yet appear to know her and communicate with her.
All this interesting new info and Im not even half way through.
Lets continue.
Oh is this final blow going to be the last we see of you? Are you already hiding your head in fear and shame?
Post by: Deborah on January 18, 2006, 03:13:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2006, 03:26:00 PM
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On 2006-01-18 12:03:00, RobertBruce wrote:
You took issue with Ginger posting the letters from Joe that included information about Marla yet had no problem trying to reveal personal information about me and Dysfunction.
Yes, and think about why SHH would be interested in Marla's privacy rights. She flat out called her a liar. Could it be that SHH didn't want Marla's contact info out there? Wonder why that would be?
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2006, 04:08:00 PM
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=30#94187 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=8631&forum=41&start=30#94187)
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http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=50#94770 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=8631&forum=41&start=50#94770)Referring to yourself in the third person? :wave:
Her user name is SHH
I dont know why they keep calling her Mrs Grey or Gray
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2006, 09:12:00 PM
He's real upset that somebody out there put his personal info on the site. In his own words "AGAIN, I never said you were responsible for the calls (nor do I believe for one second that you would ever do anything like that at all). What I said was that you posted my name, first AND last, and that is a very likely source for the perpetrator to have gotten my information. The calls began only a matter of a few days after you made that post.
Playing stupid little games like that put my family at risk of harm from some demented fuck that loves HLA so much he's willing to try to shut me up by whatever means necessary or scare me into believing that.
How would you feel if the shoe were on the other foot and someone threatened your babies?
Do the right thing, Suzanne."
Well how do YOU feel now that the shoe IS on the other foot, aren't you the dude who thinks he's such a fucking slick cyber detective, always outing or at least claiming to have outed posters who he doesn't like?
And with pride and without apology I might add
Guess it's a kind of learning experience when somebody does that to you
:cry2:
Post by: RobertBruce on January 18, 2006, 10:33:00 PM
Cybil here caused that for him.
Dysfunction has done nothing of the like. If something were to happen to his family Bullfrog there could be held as an accessory.
Not that its a problem, if the people calling him are from HLA they are impotent and weak. Their threats are meaningless and pointless.
Either way hardly the shoe on the other foot as you claim.
Post by: Antigen on January 18, 2006, 11:00:00 PM
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On 2006-01-18 18:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
Well how do YOU feel now that the shoe IS on the other foot, aren't you the dude who thinks he's such a fucking slick cyber detective, always outing or at least claiming to have outed posters who he doesn't like?
Wow, and who are you then! Is there anybody in this industry who you won't leap blindly to defend?
Question with boldness even the existance of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2006, 11:55:00 PM
Are you saying you don't think that DJ has outed persons on this site, posting personal info about them?
I would agree with you that I see no evidence that he's called anyone on the phone or appeared at their door step.
But are you actually saying that he has not posted names (first and last) of persons after tracking them down using his computer savvy?
Cuz I believe he has. And how are his actions really any different than what he says somebody else has done to him, identified him which seems to piss him off mightily with lots of moral indignation---only difference I see if that he thinks he's really special and other people shouldn't get to do the same things that he does
:cry2:
Post by: Anonymous on January 19, 2006, 12:05:00 AM
Post by: Antigen on January 19, 2006, 12:15:00 AM
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On 2006-01-18 20:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Just want to make sure I've got it right.
Are you saying you don't think that DJ has outed persons on this site, posting personal info about them?
No, I really don't think he has. Can you show me an example? I think he reads quite a lot of industry related material and you post around quite a bit. And you've got that distinctive style. It ain't rocket science; you scatter the details of your life all over the net then whine when someone pays you the high compliment of reading and paying attention to what you write.
I am married, not Buried !
-- Steve Webb
Post by: Anonymous on January 19, 2006, 12:40:00 AM
Kind of amusing to see you thrash around and come up with theories.
Oh, what a "distinctive style" therefore I know this person. Fool.
The question is: why does this DJ dude think that he's so special that he can post stuff about other people. And yet it's so awful, off- limits if somebody else does the same to him.
I just guess that some of the pigs are more equal than others (assuming Antigen that you can read and recognize the reference to Orwell's Animal Farm and the notion that a certain ideology assures special treatment).
:cry2:
Post by: Antigen on January 19, 2006, 01:10:00 AM
They called a former inmate w/ the same sort of threatening phone calls.
They threatened the academic and military career of another kid just for talking about taking pictures of the campus.
On this planet, that's considered taking a prank a bit too far. What color is the sky in your world?
Just go ahead and admit it. You think people who don't buy into your Program deserve to be so abused.
What happened to Suzanne is that she harrased these guys online, poking around for information. One of them actually got served. You'll find the consent order around here somewhere. Then she gloated about it and then denied it all.
So, and here's the crucial aspect of the whole thing. I asked her permission to prove it out by tying her anon posts to her username. She gave me permission to do that, very publicly.
Know the funny part? I think I figured out where she missed the jist of the conversation. This, of course, is just a guess. But I know this culture so well, I think it's a fairly educated guess. I think when I said this:
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On 2006-01-17 20:01:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2006-01-17 19:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
Please do not lump me into some sort catagory of evil doers, because, Ginger, you are quite mistaken about me, in more ways than one. And yes, this is SHH.
Ok, well I could be biased and just not remembering details too clearly. We could clear this up right quick, though. I could just assign all of your anonymous posts to SHH. Is it alright with you if I do that?
She read "I know who you are and I could tell everybody and really embarrass you and I want you to be really, really afraid" cause that's what she would mean if she said it.
Notice that it wasn't anyone but Suzanne who gave away her identity. And it's just rediculous to get all bent out of shape about it. Just a short while ago, I got curious and looked over Classmates.com for my graduating class. I found a couple of people, too. Know what they said? They said things along the lines of "Oh hey, how ya been! Man, that school sucked, but how the hell are ya? Oh, I heard from Bill Drennon, remember him? How could anyone forget! Here's his email addy in case you want to drop a line."
Not one person who posted to that site ever said "No, uh uh, wasn't me, no you don't know me, I don't know you, I don't know anything, except your name, age, shit your family talked on you, your, why you got fired, what you ate, how much time you had in the toilet..."
Conversations like that, for some damned reason, just don't seem to occure when we're talking about your typically strict academic institution; even an Orthodoxed Presby one such as I attended.
Oh, and not to brag or anything, that little school was a damned good school. The entire k-12 student body was usually somewhere around 400, including virtually all of the facultie's kids and the children of officers and decons of two churches. And yet, somehow, on their shoestring budget and limited personnel resources, they managed to provide my sister an education that earned her the Bosch & Lomb Science award, among many others, and half scholarship (non legacy) to Harvard. Now, how'd they do that?
I wish I could have hung around and graduated instead of getting "helped" by the struggling parents industry.
WHEN SPIDERS UNITE, THEY CAN TIE DOWN A LION
-- Ethiopian Proverb
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`80 - `82
Post by: aftenthurston on January 19, 2006, 02:22:00 AM
Post by: Antigen on January 19, 2006, 04:53:00 AM
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There's much history behind Banamex's suit. At stake are the rights of independent reporters colliding with the moneyed interests of major drug traffickers with much to hide.
http://www.november.org/razorwire/rzold/25/page26.html (http://www.november.org/razorwire/rzold/25/page26.html)
Isn't it ironic how both ends play against the middle, never even daring to see what they are or the effects on the families caught in the middle?
If life were fair, Dan Quayle would be making a living asking 'Do you want fries with that?'
John Cleese
Post by: Troll Control on January 19, 2006, 09:10:00 AM
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On 2006-01-18 21:15:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2006-01-18 20:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Just want to make sure I've got it right.
Are you saying you don't think that DJ has outed persons on this site, posting personal info about them?
No, I really don't think he has. Can you show me an example? I think he reads quite a lot of industry related material and you post around quite a bit. And you've got that distinctive style. It ain't rocket science; you scatter the details of your life all over the net then whine when someone pays you the high compliment of reading and paying attention to what you write.I am married, not Buried !
-- Steve Webb
"
That's exactly it. You hit it right on the head. This lady put all her business out there on the internet where anyone can view it.
Example:
From Strugglingteens:
Profile for Gentiana
Member Status: Junior Member
Member Number: 4461
Registered: November 11, 2004
Posts: 2
Location: Minnesota
Occupation: psychology doctoral student
Interests: running reading gardening painting
What is your purpose in registering on this Board? (Specifics Please): support for other parents; my son is a successful RMA grad (1999)
email: Ottawa5@aol.com
Posts: 2 | From: Minnesota | Registered: Nov 2004 | Logged: 24.118.46.231 |
_________________________________________________
Here's a trace of her IP address:
IP Address 24.118.46.231 US UNITED STATES MINNESOTA ST. PAUL COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS HOLDINGS INC
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From Cedualumni:
Username Real name School
Gentiana Anne Hall Rocky Mountain
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YOU put it out there, Anne. I and a few others just read it. This is fundamentally different from what SHH has done.
I NEVER put my name out there precisely because I am smart enough to realize the the deep psychotic tendencies people like you have and would never give out information that people like you could use to hurt me.
Maybe if you had planned out your absolutely viscious assaults on people here just a wee bit better, you'd have retained your not-so-carefully guarded, beloved anonymity. Do you forget the disgusting and vile things you said about people in your smug arrogance bolstered by your hidden identity?
Seriously, did you READ what you wrote? What you have said here is an absolute indictment of your character and moral compass. You are nothing but a viscious animal while posting anonymously and a pompous, condescending ass while posting with your username.
You are a sick, twisted individual who has absolutely no business working with kids, EVER.
Ginger's right. She's spot on. You posted all of your information all over the internet because you have a need to be credited for your "work." Well, you got credit. Why are you crying about it now? Not very proud of what you have authored? Maybe you shouldn't have written it in the first place.
Post by: Troll Control on January 19, 2006, 09:15:00 AM
Post by: Troll Control on January 19, 2006, 09:47:00 AM
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time...
Posted: 2005-10-02 05:58:00
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I don't advocate taking any action. I think Anne has punished herself enough with the humiliation of exposure.
Anybody who would say the things she has said should be ashamed of themselves.
I find it simply stunning to see exactly how far she was willing go so long as she felt secure in her anonymity.
She clearly exhibits the moral terpitude and ethical bankruptcy requisite for the TeenHurt business."
_________________________________________________
And...
"You can fool some of the people all of the time...
Posted: 2005-10-02 12:42:00
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Well, thank you, FCT.
As I said before, I had relatively the same experience you had working in the "industry." It is not surprising that we have arrived at similar conclusions.
As far as Anne is concerned, her chickens will come home to roost. It's only a matter of time and my intervention surely isn't needed.
People like her rarely succeed in any endeavor that requires human interaction at a meaningful level. I view her as "Ted Bundy Lite," a smooth-operating sociopath.
Take Care,
DJ
_________________
"Compassion is the basis of morality."
-Arnold Schopenhauer"
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Post by: Anonymous on January 19, 2006, 02:38:00 PM
Who thinks he's the gaurdian of this site.
Who squeals like a stuck pig when his personal info gets put out there:when other posters are always fair game to him if they just don't bow to his infinite wisdom
Little Napoleon complex, sounds like to me. So so important: giving legal opinions even, you seem to think you're quite the philosopher
Wonder how long your mid level computer job would last,how many clients you'd keep if those who provide your income knew a)how much time you spend at this site and b)the things you say and the cyber hassling you glorify in
How about it anybody?
Where does D-Steve-J work? How about giving his superiors a web address (ie this one)to let them see what a clever hard-working balanced guy they're associating with
:cry2:
Post by: Anonymous on January 19, 2006, 02:46:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 19, 2006, 02:48:00 PM
Post by: Troll Control on January 19, 2006, 02:53:00 PM
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On 2006-01-19 11:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Stevie boy you are such a joke, crappy little computer geek who couldn't make it as a counselor
Who thinks he's the gaurdian of this site.
Who squeals like a stuck pig when his personal info gets put out there:when other posters are always fair game to him if they just don't bow to his infinite wisdom
Little Napoleon complex, sounds like to me. So so important: giving legal opinions even, you seem to think you're quite the philosopher
Wonder how long your mid level computer job would last,how many clients you'd keep if those who provide your income knew a)how much time you spend at this site and b)the things you say and the cyber hassling you glorify in
How about it anybody?
Where does D-Steve-J work? How about giving his superiors a web address (ie this one)to let them see what a clever hard-working balanced guy they're associating with"
C'mon. Say what you really mean.
And when you're done, bow down to my infinite wisdom. :nworthy:
Post by: Antigen on January 19, 2006, 03:24:00 PM
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On 2005-11-14 18:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
You idiots. I know the poster you call ottoawa5 PERSONALLY. She actually spoken publically about her experiences posting here a year or two ago so it's no big secret that she did so.
I wonder who said that? I honestly don't know who it is, just that they post quite frequently defending any stranger who happens to support their cult.
But it looks asthough we've reached a consensus, settled an argument and should all live happily ever after from now on; at least on the point of who outed whom.
A bishop keeps on saying at the age of eighty what he was told to say at the age of eighteen.
--Oscar Wilde
Post by: Troll Control on January 19, 2006, 03:38:00 PM
Sounds like "sore loser" syndrome to me. :cry:
Post by: Antigen on January 19, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
See, if she says something to an intended audience who's supportive of her views, that's ok. Doesn't matter how personal, how inflamatory or how off kilter, it's sanctioned expression of the authorized view.
But if you or I dare quote her or refer to her or challenge anything, well we're out of control perpetual adolescent losers who flunked out of her program.
And this brings me to an important point that I've been trying to explain. (here's a clue, I think Short Bus knows this) this is NOT the program. It will never BE the program, it just can't happen given the structure within which we're working. The difference? No matter how right they think they are, no matter how self rightious, insulting, condescending and ugly, they can't do it in secret! Don't think that everybody reading these exchanges is also weighing in w/ their views on any of it. They're not. Just compare the # of views to the # of posts in any thread.
This is the nut of the theory I'm trying to prove out. For so damned many years, before and during my incarceration in Straight, I said to myself "God! If only we could drag this debate out into the more commonly accepted reality, I'd win." I could be wrong. That's always a possability no matter what the theory or how sure anyone is of it. But what if I'm not?
We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it - and stop there; lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again---and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore.
Mark Twain
Post by: RobertBruce on January 19, 2006, 05:33:00 PM
Im still interested to see the link showing when Dysfuction outed someone and gave out personal information.
Or was that just another idle threat?
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 01:24:00 PM
How about it:where does the Great One DJ work?
If nobody knows right now keep this idea in mind, post the info when you get it
:cry2:
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 01:31:00 PM
You cant back up your claims, and no one on your side is smart enough to tell their ass from a hole in the ground let alone trace anyone.
Give it up.
Post by: Troll Control on January 20, 2006, 01:37:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 10:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You'll seeDJ constantly threatening to identify or try to identify anybody who isn't his clone idea-wise.
How about it:where does the Great One DJ work?
If nobody knows right now keep this idea in mind, post the info when you get it"
SYMANTEC.
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 01:42:00 PM
Are you people actually so dumb you believe your own bullshit?
Post by: Antigen on January 20, 2006, 03:39:00 PM
The Internet is now safe for free speech.
-- Christopher A. Hansen on the overturning of the Communications Decency Act
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 04:52:00 PM
Maybe he does maybe he doesn't. I'm sure it will all come out when the people he's disrespected decide to share what they know.
That's the nice thing about him disrespecting so many, there's lots of potential info out there
I notice that DJ himself is pretty scarce on sites where the subject of his work place comes up. Interesting. He's usually not one to drop a subject so easily, usually has to have the last word
Keep talking. SYMANTEC has a nice website with all kinds of phone nos, and direct email addressses for investor relations, corporate issues etc. Would be real nice if he does work there
:cry2:
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 05:00:00 PM
I told you people are to stupid to ever figure these things out. Why bother wasting your own time?
Let me ask you though, does this work both ways? I mean your side has certianlly shown a great deal of disrespect havent they?
Given your line of thinking would be acceptable for us to track down each and every one of you puppets, release personal information about you on the internet and then call and threaten your families?
You're okay with this right? I mean cause right now we've ID'd several people on your end, while you all...well you havent had much luck.
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 05:05:00 PM
Look you and I have nothing to talk about bucko
Do what you have to do. That's what I intend to. And I've got nothing more to say to you so babble away. It doesn't cost me anything if you do
:cry2:
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 05:08:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:05:00, Anonymous wrote:You see, Robert is putting up a futile fight against a school that has WAY more power and money then he will ever attain. The kid's a fucking loser, bottom line.
"Now who's being stupid. Who said anything about tracking down or calling families? Not me that's for sure
Look you and I have nothing to talk about bucko
Do what you have to do. That's what I intend to. And I've got nothing more to say to you so babble away. It doesn't cost me anything if you do"
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 05:30:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Now who's being stupid. Who said anything about tracking down or calling families? Not me that's for sure
Look you and I have nothing to talk about bucko
Do what you have to do. That's what I intend to. And I've got nothing more to say to you so babble away. It doesn't cost me anything if you do"
And it somehow cost me something? No it doesnt.
So let me make sure I have your philopshy correct. Its okay with you if we release people's identity on here and then try and get them fired, but we shouldnt call you all at home?
Is that all?
Okay got it.
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 05:35:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
"QuoteYou see, Robert is putting up a futile fight against a school that has WAY more power and money then he will ever attain. The kid's a fucking loser, bottom line."
On 2006-01-20 14:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Now who's being stupid. Who said anything about tracking down or calling families? Not me that's for sure
Look you and I have nothing to talk about bucko
Do what you have to do. That's what I intend to. And I've got nothing more to say to you so babble away. It doesn't cost me anything if you do"
:lol: lol Am I now?
Given the fact that you know nothing about me, you would be hard pressed to back up this claim.
I am interested in this "futile" fight you think I'm fighting. It doenst appear to be quite so futile now does it. You all are scared and trying desperatly to cover the truth about HLA. But you cant, and youre slipping.
Plus you forget Im not alone, by any means. While at this point dont have close to the amount of money the Buch has, our collective resources dwarf his.
:lol:
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 05:37:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Now who's being stupid. Who said anything about tracking down or calling families? Not me that's for sure
Look you and I have nothing to talk about bucko
Do what you have to do. That's what I intend to. And I've got nothing more to say to you so babble away. It doesn't cost me anything if you do"
Im also curious as to why you wouldnt want to talk to me. Afraid you cant keep up? Afraid I'll toss every stupid comment of yours right back in your face?
Ignore me if you want, it wont change a thing.
:grin:
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 05:37:00 PM
:cry2:
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 05:40:00 PM
Your fear is not misplaced. Im for real.
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 05:40:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:37:00, Anonymous wrote:He's just a fucking idiot. Plain and simple.
"Delusions of gradeur perhaps? What do you think folks is this kid for real or just playing?"
Post by: Troll Control on January 20, 2006, 05:42:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:40:00, Anonymous wrote:
"QuoteHe's just a fucking idiot. Plain and simple."
On 2006-01-20 14:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Delusions of gradeur perhaps? What do you think folks is this kid for real or just playing?"
I agree. Anyone who uses the word 'gradeur' while trying to insult someone is a fucking idiot. Good call.
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 05:43:00 PM
So if I'm a fucking idiot what does that make you?[ This Message was edited by: RobertBruce on 2006-01-20 14:43 ]
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 05:43:00 PM
:cry2:
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Quote
On 2006-01-20 14:40:00, Anonymous wrote:
"QuoteHe's just a fucking idiot. Plain and simple."
On 2006-01-20 14:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Delusions of gradeur perhaps? What do you think folks is this kid for real or just playing?"
I agree. Anyone who uses the word 'gradeur' while trying to insult someone is a fucking idiot. Good call."
Whats funny about this is Im not the one who used the word. LOL. Thanks idiot.
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 05:45:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Maybe people don't want to talk to you cuz you're boring Robert"
Or just that I state facts about your cult and ask questions you cant stand to answer.
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 05:46:00 PM
:cry2:
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Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 05:49:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"No you're making it way too complicated. You're just a boring person and that's why people don't like to talk to you"
Is it my fault youre to stupid to understand the facts about your cult?
No your stupidity is why you got sucked into in the first place.
Accept respondsibility, and the fact that we are all smarter than you.
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Robert- *yawn* same ol' same ol'..."
*PULL* (follow it follow it follow it)
*BANG*
Shot down another puppet's weak argument.
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 05:53:00 PM
:cry2:
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 05:54:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 05:55:00 PM
Face it, the afternoon would have been duller without him trying to keep up with the conversation-and falling on his face time after time. Funniest part is he never seems to notice how dorky he really is
:cry2:
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 05:56:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:54:00, RobertBruce wrote:No one cares to unlike you. We don't really give a fuck. Your just entertainment, mere entertainment! :lol:
"Yet the fact remains none of you retards have won a single argument against me. "
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 05:57:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:55:00, Anonymous wrote:I love this anon!! :tup:
"Look we all have a purpose this kid's is to be so dorky he's funny.
Face it, the afternoon would have been duller without him trying to keep up with the conversation-and falling on his face time after time. Funniest part is he never seems to notice how dorky he really is"
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 06:11:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 14:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Look we all have a purpose this kid's is to be so dorky he's funny.
Face it, the afternoon would have been duller without him trying to keep up with the conversation-and falling on his face time after time. Funniest part is he never seems to notice how dorky he really is"
If you say so chump.
You just cant avoid the fact that Ive won every single argument every one of you retards has ever tried to fight.
I mean....there's still all those questions of Dysfunctions youve all been desperately ignoring.
Because youre all a bunch of cowardly little bitches.
And all the while :lol: :lol: :lol: Insisting HLA is a great place.
Im glad you find me entertaining, that just means youll stick around and I get to watch you continue to try and evade the truth, refuse to answer questions and scurry in fear.
And that my friend I find fucking priceless and hysterical.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 07:04:00 PM
At the risk of ruining the entertainment: little man, you really don't need to respond to every single thing that people say. Oftentimes they;re just baiting you and God you just keep falling for it.
Here's a hint: decide what matters to you, what principle, what point, and keep your eye on it. Cuz right now you're just like a dog chasing a frisbee, you pick up on every "frisbee" people keep throwing your way. And you keep making an ass of yourself.
In a way I think "poor kid, he needs some social awareness training", in another way I think "Hell, I might just as well be trying to explain it to my dog".
:cry2:
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 07:10:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 16:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
At the risk of ruining the entertainment: little man, you really don't need to respond to every single thing that people say. Oftentimes they;re just baiting you and God you just keep falling for it.
Here's a hint: decide what matters to you, what principle, what point, and keep your eye on it. Cuz right now you're just like a dog chasing a frisbee, you pick up on every "frisbee" people keep throwing your way. And you keep making an ass of yourself.
:nworthy: :tup:
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 16:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It's beautiful. Robert keeps talking and you think "No he can't make it any worse". And then he does.
At the risk of ruining the entertainment: little man, you really don't need to respond to every single thing that people say. Oftentimes they;re just baiting you and God you just keep falling for it.
Here's a hint: decide what matters to you, what principle, what point, and keep your eye on it. Cuz right now you're just like a dog chasing a frisbee, you pick up on every "frisbee" people keep throwing your way. And you keep making an ass of yourself.
In a way I think "poor kid, he needs some social awareness training", in another way I think "Hell, I might just as well be trying to explain it to my dog"."
Whats funnier is the fact that each and every time you all think; "This time I'll get him, this time I'll have something he CANT respond to. This time I'll shut him up."
Yet each and every time I shoot down your silly pointless arguments and redirect you to the fact that you are all afraid of the truth.
There's no way around it.
So with those facts in mind go answer the fucking questions you mindless puppet. And remember youre the lap dogs here, not me and not us.
Have a good night. :grin:
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 07:57:00 PM
Who knows: it may help you.
Nighty night, and please, please sleep on the idea that you can be much more proactive than you were today
Christ almost anything would be an improvement
:cry2:
Post by: RobertBruce on January 20, 2006, 08:00:00 PM
In any event I want you to accept the reality of things. You dont think for yourself thus you cannot defeat any of us. We are smarter than you and we have the truth on our side.
If youd like to discuss aspects of HLA I'd be more than happy to, until then however remember that every time you make some pointless comments I will be there to slap it back in your face. And I know how you like it in the face.
Have a good night.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 08:16:00 PM
:cry2:
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 08:46:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 17:16:00, Anonymous wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:
"Has Robert Bruce had some kind of head injury along the way? More obtuse than you'd expect for a fully functioning person"
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 08:56:00 PM
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On 2006-01-20 16:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It's beautiful. Robert keeps talking and you think "No he can't make it any worse". And then he does.
At the risk of ruining the entertainment: little man, you really don't need to respond to every single thing that people say. Oftentimes they;re just baiting you and God you just keep falling for it.
Here's a hint: decide what matters to you, what principle, what point, and keep your eye on it. Cuz right now you're just like a dog chasing a frisbee, you pick up on every "frisbee" people keep throwing your way. And you keep making an ass of yourself.
In a way I think "poor kid, he needs some social awareness training", in another way I think "Hell, I might just as well be trying to explain it to my dog"."
jezus f?in christ. you haven?t shut your trap all day. how is any response to you conceivably worse than your inane, incessant, baiting? in case you haven't noticed- you're obsessed with it. perfecting your technique? i can imagine that nothing would bring you more pleasure than having rb or dj in your program. come on, how would you consequence them?
speaking of dj, why subject other readers to your ranting and raving? pm him. he's very reasonable. i'm sure ya'll could work out an agreement. seems that would be the 'socially aware' thing to do, expert.
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2006, 01:29:00 AM
Really? I can imagine any number of things myself.
For example, figuring out what is your particular problem. I mean we were all(the normals among us)going along bantering with Robert who seemed to be enjoying himself too, oblvious to the fact that he was being played with.
And then you (Mr. "jezus f'in christ") come along with all sorts of semi-legible advice.
And apparently a dj groupie (he's "very reasonable":that's a new one from all I've heard).
So thanks all the same. you'r going to have to stick your words of wisdom back where the sun don't shine
If you want to go ahead though and clarify your post and your interest in the whole subject well that might be interesting
:cry2:
Post by: Antigen on January 21, 2006, 10:15:00 AM
With soap, baptism is a good thing.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2006, 11:31:00 AM
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On 2006-01-20 22:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
""i can imagine that nothing would bring you more pleasure than having rb or dj in your program. come on, how would you consequence them?"
Really? I can imagine any number of things myself.
For example, figuring out what is your particular problem. I mean we were all(the normals among us)going along bantering with Robert who seemed to be enjoying himself too, oblvious to the fact that he was being played with.
And then you (Mr. "jezus f'in christ") come along with all sorts of semi-legible advice.
And apparently a dj groupie (he's "very reasonable":that's a new one from all I've heard).
So thanks all the same. you'r going to have to stick your words of wisdom back where the sun don't shine
If you want to go ahead though and clarify your post and your interest in the whole subject well that might be interesting
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What?s semi-legible?
Your 'bantering' looks like baiting... manipulation from this view, for your own sadistic pleasure, and quiet boring for the rest of us.
"We"? Do you know who your tag-team partner was yesterday?
Requesting that you take your issue with dj/rb to private discussion? Semi-legible, or undesirable?
My only ?problem/interest? as a reader is preferring not to be subjected to pages of your psychological 'bantering/manipulation'- not that you have enough social awareness to consider others.
Did that clarify?
Spelling errors. Not like you. A little tipsy late last night?
Post by: Troll Control on January 21, 2006, 11:49:00 AM
That posing as teenager business is over the top though, any way you cut it up. Short Bus can't help himself (he is, after all, the ultimate delinquent), but to see an adult "professional" act out like that (even if drunk) is appalling to say the least.
I'm going to speak to her graduate advisor next week about exactly who should be a psychologist versus who should see a psychologist. Another poster from the CEDU forum has already been in contact with the advisor, so it'll save me the time of looking 'em up.
Post by: RobertBruce on January 21, 2006, 02:54:00 PM
Post by: Troll Control on January 21, 2006, 03:24:00 PM
And this was the person saying you were the entertainment around here.
Somehow I just knew she was going to come out on the short end here. Fuck with the bull and, well, you get the horns.
Keep in mind that this woman's aspiration is to raise capital sufficient to open a CEDU-style treatment center where she will be (play) head clinician. She can't even get into practice before being outed as a complete quack, not to mention a very, very, disturbed individual.
Let this be a warning to parents: This is the type of person who works in the industry.
Whose got the "burr under the saddle now," sweetheart? Probably goes pretty well with the hangover. "Don't drink and surf." You never know what you might be clicking on.
And, Short Bus, you should be ashamed for associating with a crackpot like this. It demeans your character as the ultimate delinquent[/b] to chum around with a hard-core programmie.
Dude, if she wasn't so busy trying to use you like an attack dog to get at me or Robert she'd be trying to lock you up in a program so fast you wouldn't know what hit you, son. Let it be a lesson to you. Choose your running buddies a little more carefully.
Post by: Short Bus on January 21, 2006, 05:36:00 PM
Post by: RobertBruce on January 21, 2006, 05:39:00 PM
But no she does not work for HLA, she wants to set up her own.
Now when are you going to agree to having all of your anon post assinged. Come on stop being a little bitch.
Post by: Short Bus on January 21, 2006, 05:55:00 PM
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On 2006-01-21 14:39:00, RobertBruce wrote:When you kill yourself, fuck face! :rofl: :lol:
"Whats the matter Short Bus couldnt handle the job on your own? You picked a bad partner she's dumber than you.
But no she does not work for HLA, she wants to set up her own.
Now when are you going to agree to having all of your anon post assinged. Come on stop being a little bitch. "
Post by: RobertBruce on January 21, 2006, 05:57:00 PM
Come on lil bitch dont be such a pussy, own up to your own statements.
Post by: Short Bus on January 21, 2006, 06:15:00 PM
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On 2006-01-21 14:57:00, RobertBruce wrote:I will agree to show the posts as long as your mom lets me fuck her doggystyle raw-dog..
"And miss all the fun of seeing exactly how pathetic you really are? No way.
Come on lil bitch dont be such a pussy, own up to your own statements. "
Post by: RobertBruce on January 21, 2006, 06:25:00 PM
Both big criteria for you.
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2006, 07:00:00 PM
Short Bus
Post by: RobertBruce on January 21, 2006, 07:03:00 PM
You know what your doctor said about you having sharp objects.
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2006, 07:09:00 PM
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On 2006-01-21 16:03:00, RobertBruce wrote:Um, not funny. But seriously, whats the best you could do price wise? Just be cool for this one fucking post, thats all I ask. Im trying to see what a reasonable price is. Thanks.
"What would you need with a nail gun Short Bus?
You know what your doctor said about you having sharp objects. "
Post by: RobertBruce on January 21, 2006, 07:13:00 PM
Tell me though why would I do you any such favor?
Let us see your anon post and I'll not only give you the price, I'll set you up with one for a substantial discount.
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2006, 07:20:00 PM
Post by: Troll Control on February 01, 2006, 06:54:00 PM
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On 2006-01-16 15:40:00, Eudora wrote:
"So what? You fuckers threaten and intimidate people all the damned time. Technically, it's just as illegal as OL's casual talk, only far more sinister in nature.
Thing is, secrets had a limited shelf life even before the advent of a commercial internet. Now? You're trippin' yer brains out on pure groupthink if you think you're going to keep a lid on this. Sorry, it's just not gonna happen. Doesn't matter if you shut this one kid up or hassle every website admin who's server bears information you'd rather people not see. It's a losing battle.
Has it occured to you folks that if you have to be this circumspect about what you're doing, maybe it's not 100% kosher?Infidel: In New York, one who does not believe in the Christian religion; in Constantinople, one who does.
--Ambrose Bierce
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I don't think it has sunk in with the groupies, but it sure seems like the good townsfolk of Dahlonega and the Lumpkin County commissioners have some real questions about the legitimacy of this type of business and the morality of its employees.
Post by: OverLordd on February 07, 2006, 10:27:00 AM
Post by: Troll Control on February 07, 2006, 10:48:00 AM
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On 2006-02-07 07:27:00, OverLordd wrote:
"Aww, people still care! How sweet. :grin: (no sarcasm intended)"
We miss your input, bro. What happened to you is stinking fucking shame.
We havn't forgotten it and some of us have made a commitment that if we get sued, we'll fight it and have all of this mess become a matter of public record.
I personally believe that all it will take to put a SERIOUS hurting on their revenue stream is to have incontrovertible documents of public record available to anyone looking at that program. Once people wise up to the thug mentality and actions, they will look elsewhere for services.
Post by: OverLordd on February 07, 2006, 11:02:00 AM
Post by: Troll Control on February 07, 2006, 11:10:00 AM
Post by: Antigen on February 07, 2006, 01:10:00 PM
The clergy know that I know that they know that they do not know.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer
Post by: OverLordd on February 07, 2006, 01:42:00 PM
Post by: Deborah on February 07, 2006, 02:39:00 PM
Welcome back.
Did you get a tour of HLA as part of the settlement?