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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
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first phasers may not talk to each other
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sympathy = [does anyone recall this?]
empathy = putting myself in mine or others place
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sympathy was "relating to myself or others" I think...
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2. What you see here, what you hear here, what you do here--remains here.
( We know what this was all about. )
#6. No borrowing money, candy, or cigarettes.
( Hell there was no smoking. )
#22. No telling your parents your host parent's names or phone number.
( Fear of information leaking out ?? )
#35. No 98 ROCK or Saturday Night Live.
( Enjoyment is not allowed. )
#37. No Leaning or slouching.
( No telling how many brusies on my back from having some asshole poke me with his finger to make me sit up and motivate. )
#40. Hang on tight to newcomers by the beltloop.
( The key word is beltloop not back of the pants creating MEGA-WEDGIE.)
#51. No "R" rated movies.
( Must be like Mr Rogers. )
A drug is neither moral nor immoral - it's a chemical compound. The compound itself is not a menace to society until a human being treats it as if consumption bestowed a temporary license to act like an asshole.
--Frank Zappa
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Here's a great breakdown of the rules:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... m=7#122223 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=11130&forum=7#122223)
3rd post down.
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I only remember that um i dunno what it was but it goes like this:
1. Based on objective reality
2. protect my life and health
3. goal producing
4. feel and act in my best entrests
5. keep me out of trouble with others.
what is that?
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The 5 criteria ??
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On 2005-09-09 13:05:00, Gah wrote:
"I only remember that um i dunno what it was but it goes like this:
1. Based on objective reality
2. protect my life and health
3. goal producing
4. feel and act in my best entrests
5. keep me out of trouble with others.
what is that?
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Hey, Isn't this from RSC training ???
A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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Honesty and honesty to me is when my thoughts and feelings match my words and actions.
The weirdest part is the "and honesty to me is"... no...and honesty to the person that made me memorize this is....
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The five criteria...they were on the wall in Springfield. fuck. straight was so...fucking... ugh
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CONFIDENTIALITY: WHO I SEE, WHAT I SEE AND WHAT I HERE HERE STAYS HERE...
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On 2005-09-09 13:05:00, Gah wrote:
"I only remember that um i dunno what it was but it goes like this:
1. Based on objective reality
2. protect my life and health
3. goal producing
4. feel and act in my best entrests
5. keep me out of trouble with others.
what is that?
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Based on objective reality....we were set up to fail!
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On 2005-09-09 12:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
"sympathy = [does anyone recall this?]
empathy = putting myself in mine or others place"
Sympathy s/same feeling for someone that is going through what you have experienced.
empathy Though you havn't experienced it, you feel for someone who has.
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On 2005-09-09 13:21:00, DOC SLOW wrote:
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On 2005-09-09 13:05:00, Gah wrote:
"I only remember that um i dunno what it was but it goes like this:
1. Based on objective reality
2. protect my life and health
3. goal producing
4. feel and act in my best entrests
5. keep me out of trouble with others.
what is that?
"
Hey, Isn't this from RSC training ???
A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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no
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***shudder***
gads, I remember that...creepy.
-Leslie Marie
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EMPATHY was putting yourself in another persons shoes and SENSITIVITY was giving them what they need! thats what that f-n rule was.....more people got humped on this rule,than any of the others!it was the basis of all the "therapy"in there!any confrontation was done on the basis of this rule!the torture was too.....somehow they figured it was what who ever needed!i don't know where the "time out"room or tearing ones EGO apart was what we needed...for that matter sleep deprivision too...also look at who was giving us "what we needed".....group staff!they were just kids or young adults! 15 - 22.....unbelievable!
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Tearing our ego's apart worked very well. If it was an ego we had to begin with. I think we had a lack of ego. If you grew up in a dysfunctional household to begin with, which made you dysfuntional in general (my case), it was like being stripped raw of skin really. I never saw any sympathy or empathy from my parents! They stuck me in that hell hole because no mental hospital would keep me...because there was nothing wrong with me! The problem was my dysfunctional parents! I was pretty much already prepared for the mental abuse...it was the emotional abuse I found difficult. Emotional abuse by other kids that did not know my background for the reality it was.
REMEMBER, WE WERE NEVER ALLOWED TO BLAME OUR PARENTS FOR ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, by the way, that rule still applies for my parents to this very day. They were given the free get out of jail card for all their past transgressions; but, we weren't allowed to get up in group to talk about how our parents beat the shit out of us or mentally tortured us with silent treatments & others forms of torture.
Miller must have made this rule up himself.
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Talk about yourself.
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On 2005-12-27 07:00:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
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On 2005-09-09 13:21:00, DOC SLOW wrote:
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On 2005-09-09 13:05:00, Gah wrote:
"I only remember that um i dunno what it was but it goes like this:
1. Based on objective reality
2. protect my life and health
3. goal producing
4. feel and act in my best entrests
5. keep me out of trouble with others.
what is that?
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Hey, Isn't this from RSC training ???
A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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no
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Wasn't that RSA ? Rational Self Analysis