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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) => Topic started by: Anonymous on May 28, 2005, 02:31:00 PM
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i graduated from academy at ivy ridge about 3months ago and i think that you all just think that you need somethin to bitch about. .if you think that you have eye witnesses, i can garantee that they havent learned ne thing and they are still lyin. . the only reason they say shit is because they are tryinto make other people look bad so that they look better. . ya'll need to seriosly look at what the fuck ur doin before you make accusations. .i defend the progam like its my family. . and i will til the day i fuckin die. :roll:
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On 2005-05-28 11:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"i graduated from academy at ivy ridge about 3months ago and i think that you all just think that you need somethin to bitch about. .if you think that you have eye witnesses, i can garantee that they havent learned ne thing and they are still lyin. . the only reason they say shit is because they are tryinto make other people look bad so that they look better. . ya'll need to seriosly look at what the fuck ur doin before you make accusations. .i defend the progam like its my family. . and i will til the day i fuckin die. :roll: "
The staff at AIR would consider this a success.
By the way, what do you mean by "graduated?" Since the "school" is completely unaccredited by the State of New York (as found by a recent investigation by State Attorney General Elliot Spitzer) they could not possibly have issued you a diploma. Your AIR "diploma" and $1.50 will get you on the A-Train.
How exactly do you figure you "graduated?"
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On 2005-05-28 11:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"i graduated from academy at ivy ridge about 3months ago and i think that you all just think that you need somethin to bitch about. .if you think that you have eye witnesses, i can garantee that they havent learned ne thing and they are still lyin. . the only reason they say shit is because they are tryinto make other people look bad so that they look better. . ya'll need to seriosly look at what the fuck ur doin before you make accusations. .i defend the progam like its my family. . and i will til the day i fuckin die. :roll: "
"You all just think that you need something to bitch about"---
OK (person who obviously doesnt ever bitch about anything), please tell us in what situations is it OK to "bitch"?
A. You are beaten to within an inch of your life
B. You are raped
C. You are emotionally abused by your parents your whole childhood
D. You have a friend that is rude to you a lot
E. You get your wallet stolen
F. You get cut off on the freeway
G. Someone gives you a dirty look
Please tell us and explain why.
"i can guarantee they haven't learned anything and are still lying"--
Um...just exactly how can you do that? How do you know who's lying here, them or the people that they are accusing? Because you think you are a liar? So does that make everyone a liar and you omniscient?? Or were you just a liar. Or a psychic liar. Please tell us.
"the only reason they say shit is because they are tryin to make other people look bad so that they look better"--
The same comments as above. How exactly do you know this? Because that's what you do? So are you a psychic asshole??
"ya'll need to seriosly look at what the fuck ur doin before you make accusations"--
OK, so again back to the first question. So when is it OK to make accusations?? And why??
"i defend the progam like its my family. . and i will til the day i fuckin die."--
OK so I'm not sure what you're getting at here. It is certaintly your right to do so. Are you suggesting we all need to do exactly the same as you? And please tell us why that would be? Because you psychically know everything about us and you are also omniscient enough to be able to tell us what to do about this information? Wow....can we be friends?
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Whoa...
You "graduated?"
Guess you didn't take SPELLING 101
First of all--This place is not even accredited by NORTHWEST, who would usually accredit anyone who will mail in $150 bucks! So something must really be wrong here!
But seriously: people are concerned about these kids at Ivy Ridge, and they have every reason to be.
If you want to defend this so-called school, you might get a lot further by eliminating a few curse words, calming down a bit, and showing some level of maturity---THEN someone with half a brain might listen to you.
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On 2005-05-28 17:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
If you want to defend this so-called school, you might get a lot further by eliminating a few curse words, calming down a bit, and showing some level of maturity---THEN someone with half a brain might listen to you."
Yeah, someone w/ half a brain. Not good enough. Someone w/ a whole brain, spirit and soul would understand the need for strong language to describe what we're talking about. Others need not apply.
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--Ferdinand Magellan, Portuguese and Spanish explorer
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Look, folks, all of us have been through the mill and all of us have pieces and parts that make no sense whatever w/o the complimentary parts. You know that now as well as you knew it then. We're all in this together.
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On 2005-05-28 11:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"i defend the progam like its my family. . and i will til the day i fuckin die."
Hey, at least you admit what a TOOL you are! :rofl:
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Isn't graduated spelled properly in that first post? Why the spelling 101 comment?
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On 2005-05-28 11:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"i graduated from academy at ivy ridge about 3months ago and i think that you all just think that you need somethin to bitch about. .if you think that you have eye witnesses, i can garantee that they havent learned ne thing and they are still lyin. . the only reason they say shit is because they are tryinto make other people look bad so that they look better. . ya'll need to seriosly look at what the fuck ur doin before you make accusations. .i defend the progam like its my family. . and i will til the day i fuckin die. :rofl:
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Graduated is spelled correctly. Obviously whoever made that comment can't spell. They should feel stupid that they wrote that comment. They couldn't come up with anything better to say about the student. And as for the student "graduating" they graduated the program, not high school. If people who wrote on here knew anything about the program that would have known that. The student who wrote they graduated should feel very proud of themselves for doing so. However, in the future the cursing should be eliminated. I understand that the idiots on here sometimes provoke language you wouldn't normally use, but just show respect for yourself in the future and tone the language down.
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On 2005-05-30 10:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The student who wrote they graduated should feel very proud of themselves for doing so.
I do! :skull:
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I think that person put graduated in quotes not because they were saying they didnt spell graduated correctly but because there is no way to graduate from an unacredited school. Mystery solved!
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Anonymous misspelled guarantee by spelling it garantee. It is an easy word to misspell so maybe AIR is not big on teaching dictionary skills. Anonymous will probably learn to reach for a dictionary more often. BTW I do not like the WWASPS' programs so I am not defending them. I just wanted Anonymous to know what he misspelled. He seems to think it was "graduated".
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Three months ago. WOW. You must know everyhting right? I am a fucking eye witness you little creep. Is it that hard to imagine your proram is that bad that you defend it even if you KNOW it is wrong? God you are a sad sad person.Yes. We all base our existence on what the peopel at fornits say. Wow you are soo off. YOu think we like remembering being called sluts and bitches and being hurt and ridiculed and abused? You are a nazi. Sad for you. Well live in your WWASP prion if oyu ewnat. As for me I am happy beig free from that BULLSHIT. Fuck you annonymous troll preson
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Ya'll sound like a bunch of idiots on here arguing about how to spell and correcting each other!! We all have our own opinions so let people give them!! For me i know that the school i was sent to was the best thing for me! Did i want to be there NO but shit happens!And sometimes it happens for the best reasons! And atleast i am bold enough to be able to admit that the school did help me! Without being sent there i dont really know where id be right now and that is the truth! I know id be dead or have a kid or living with some loser asshole who beat the hell outta me but since i sucked up my time there and actually listened to what those people were trying to teach me i came out even stronger! I dont understand why so many people try to put the program down when it can help so many people just like it helped me! I guess everyone has there own experience of the place and did i want to get the hell outta there? Yes i did because i hated some of the rules and had enough of the same old shit after 2 years!!... but the rules were what helped me the most along with the seminars and the people i was there with! So if ya'll r on here much love to ya!! (Thanks for the email and telling me about this place!!) ::fuckoff::
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o yea and maybe some people did get the shit beat out of them while they were there (which i never saw) but the way i saw some people come in i would have to say id beat the shit outta them too for coming at me like that!! I know no one deserves to get treated like that but if youre gonna bring it then dont be scared to take it!!! N when u get it dont go cryin to mama!! ::armed::
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What school anon?
i would have to say id beat the shit outta them too for coming at me like that!!
Typical. A 250 pound grown man can restrain a child without hitting them, yet they decide to beat them, as you would. You disgust me, you sick child molesting fool. Fuck off and die. :skull: :wave:
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On 2005-06-13 06:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"o yea and maybe some people did get the shit beat out of them while they were there (which i never saw) but the way i saw some people come in i would have to say id beat the shit outta them too for coming at me like that!! I know no one deserves to get treated like that but if youre gonna bring it then dont be scared to take it!!! N when u get it dont go cryin to mama!! ::armed:: "
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you can graduate from highschool there and/or the levels of the program. i completed all levels from csa in south carolina. there is nothing to bitch about in life... why let things bother you... in your questionare about " what is there to bitch about" well i wouldnt be bitching about being raped... i would be doing m best to get that person locked up... you kids however seem to be bitching about these school.. which majority have never been too and dont know anything about except from what you hear? remember the game telephone? yeah. bitching takes so much time and energy, why do it at all. just step left. something i have realized is its hard to try and teach kids what we learn in these schools/programs because your not open to it. for what reason.. i dont know maybe your still stuck in your non working behaviors, but maybe if you jsy shut up.. opened your mind, and allowed some one who had a troubling life experience, tell you what its like to go to this school and really do something to change their lives. I could tell you, I've been there done that.
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On 2005-06-13 09:56:00, luvlife128 wrote:
"you can graduate from highschool there and/or the levels of the program. i completed all levels from csa in south carolina. there is nothing to bitch about in life... why let things bother you... in your questionare about " what is there to bitch about" well i wouldnt be bitching about being raped... i would be doing m best to get that person locked up... you kids however seem to be bitching about these school.. which majority have never been too and dont know anything about except from what you hear? remember the game telephone? yeah. bitching takes so much time and energy, why do it at all. just step left. something i have realized is its hard to try and teach kids what we learn in these schools/programs because your not open to it. for what reason.. i dont know maybe your still stuck in your non working behaviors, but maybe if you jsy shut up.. opened your mind, and allowed some one who had a troubling life experience, tell you what its like to go to this school and really do something to change their lives. I could tell you, I've been there done that."
FRESH MEAT! You are spouting program jargon to the 'T', you must be a recent graduate, yes? It shows. So, how long were you locked up against your will? Still under contract with your parents?
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i dont know maybe your still stuck in your non working behaviors
You can't even use your own words to say what you're trying to say, can you? How sad. I hope you'll snap out of it eventually.
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fresh meat.... yeah i graduated april , 2 months ago. i was in 31 months. im not trying to get crazy with defending the school it aint closing.... all im sayin is w/e to people who dont know what they are talking about.. i could care less about the lies. email me some time.... we'll talk, im not as into the program you think, but i dont like lies. thats it
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So you are here to protect us from people's lies? Get over yourself. How do you know if other people are lying? You don't.
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the only lies im accussing people of that i know are lies are the ones about csa because i went there. i dont know if kids were beat before i went i can only tell you what happened. i dont even get the argument over csa. have you been there?
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what lies exactly are you talking about??
Can you quote them, link them or something? Or are you just talking out of your ass.. promoting your school for no reason, other than to rebute imaginary 'lies' you think exist.. please, show us the lies. Please?
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the ones saying they beat kids. no one was beaten... those lies.. the links that are posted on this forum for people to see... that may well have happend 3 years ago... but like i said not in the time i was there
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On 2005-06-13 12:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"the ones saying they beat kids. no one was beaten... those lies.. the links that are posted on this forum for people to see... that may well have happend 3 years ago... but like i said not in the time i was there"
http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/carol ... ticle.html (http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/carolina_springs_academy_article.html)
http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/Tee ... rolina.htm (http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/TeenHelp/carolina.htm)
http://www.free-times.com/archive/cover ... chool.html (http://www.free-times.com/archive/coverstorarch/defiantschool.html)
http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancip ... prings.htm (http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancipation/stories/carolina-springs.htm)
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On 2005-06-13 14:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-13 12:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"the ones saying they beat kids. no one was beaten... those lies.. the links that are posted on this forum for people to see... that may well have happend 3 years ago... but like i said not in the time i was there"
http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/carol ... ticle.html (http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/carolina_springs_academy_article.html)
http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/Tee ... rolina.htm (http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/TeenHelp/carolina.htm)
http://www.free-times.com/archive/cover ... chool.html (http://www.free-times.com/archive/coverstorarch/defiantschool.html)
http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancip ... prings.htm (http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancipation/stories/carolina-springs.htm)"
ive allready read these damn things a hundred times... none of the dates are in the last 3 years.. si again.. that stuff didnt happen while i was there.
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On 2005-06-14 09:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-13 14:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-13 12:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"the ones saying they beat kids. no one was beaten... those lies.. the links that are posted on this forum for people to see... that may well have happend 3 years ago... but like i said not in the time i was there"
http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/carol ... ticle.html (http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/carolina_springs_academy_article.html)
http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/Tee ... rolina.htm (http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/TeenHelp/carolina.htm)
http://www.free-times.com/archive/cover ... chool.html (http://www.free-times.com/archive/coverstorarch/defiantschool.html)
http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancip ... prings.htm (http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancipation/stories/carolina-springs.htm)"
ive allready read these damn things a hundred times... none of the dates are in the last 3 years.. si again.. that stuff didnt happen while i was there."
You keep saying that, but that is extremely hard to believe. Most probably, what happened was that you stopped seeing these things and tagging them as abuse once you received WWASP as your Lord and Savior ("WWASP saved my life! The porgram is perfect! There is no abuse! I'd be deadorinjail without the Holy Program!"), and once you accepted WWASP's definition of abuse instead of the common sense definitions used in the real world.
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On 2005-06-14 09:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-14 09:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-13 14:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-13 12:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"the ones saying they beat kids. no one was beaten... those lies.. the links that are posted on this forum for people to see... that may well have happend 3 years ago... but like i said not in the time i was there"
http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/carol ... ticle.html (http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/carolina_springs_academy_article.html)
http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/Tee ... rolina.htm (http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/TeenHelp/carolina.htm)
http://www.free-times.com/archive/cover ... chool.html (http://www.free-times.com/archive/coverstorarch/defiantschool.html)
http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancip ... prings.htm (http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancipation/stories/carolina-springs.htm)"
ive allready read these damn things a hundred times... none of the dates are in the last 3 years.. si again.. that stuff didnt happen while i was there."
You keep saying that, but that is extremely hard to believe. Most probably, what happened was that you stopped seeing these things and tagging them as abuse once you received WWASP as your Lord and Savior ("WWASP saved my life! The porgram is perfect! There is no abuse! I'd be deadorinjail without the Holy Program!"), and once you accepted WWASP's definition of abuse instead of the common sense definitions used in the real world. "
listen to your self... my ex boyfriend tried to beat me... why would i let some one else beat me if i didnt even let him. i'd be the first to say something. i think the only thing i didnt like about that school was that i couldnt talk to boys, see my parents, and smoke a ciggarette. actually i had seen plenty of kids taking to o.p and restrained. but they were all restrained cuz they were being stupid and tryingto kill themselves or someone else. and all they did was put them on the floor, then sat them up and talked to them. if that didnt work they were taken out side with upper levels. its hard to believe that abuse happened when they've got people there 24/7 watching. if someone was abused dont you think they would have written home. parents would have had cops there in a sencond. maybe the boys facility they got beat i dont know, doubt it.. but not in the girls
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listen to your self... my ex boyfriend tried to beat me... why would i let some one else beat me if i didnt even let him. i'd be the first to say something. i think the only thing i didnt like about that school was that i couldnt talk to boys, see my parents, and smoke a ciggarette. actually i had seen plenty of kids taking to o.p and restrained. but they were all restrained cuz they were being stupid and tryingto kill themselves or someone else. and all they did was put them on the floor, then sat them up and talked to them. if that didnt work they were taken out side with upper levels. its hard to believe that abuse happened when they've got people there 24/7 watching. if someone was abused dont you think they would have written home. parents would have had cops there in a sencond. maybe the boys facility they got beat i dont know, doubt it.. but not in the girls"
Wow, your ignorance is showing. Swear to god- you throw so many program phrases in every post its scary.
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On 2005-06-14 09:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
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listen to your self... my ex boyfriend tried to beat me... why would i let some one else beat me if i didnt even let him. i'd be the first to say something. i think the only thing i didnt like about that school was that i couldnt talk to boys, see my parents, and smoke a ciggarette. actually i had seen plenty of kids taking to o.p and restrained. but they were all restrained cuz they were being stupid and tryingto kill themselves or someone else. and all they did was put them on the floor, then sat them up and talked to them. if that didnt work they were taken out side with upper levels. its hard to believe that abuse happened when they've got people there 24/7 watching. if someone was abused dont you think they would have written home. parents would have had cops there in a sencond. maybe the boys facility they got beat i dont know, doubt it.. but not in the girls"
Wow, your ignorance is showing. Swear to god- you throw so many program phrases in every post its scary. "
where are the prgram phrases? i dont see any... do you know some. teach me? i know a phrase but its not from the program... nahh i wont tell ya.. my ingnorance is showing
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You've been there so long, it's all normal to you. Don't worry, all of us see it. :wink:
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On 2005-06-14 09:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You've been there so long, it's all normal to you. Don't worry, all of us see it. :wink: "
probably so.. their lingo does almost become transcripted in your brain.. i never used it... i thought it was all retarted... never " called my peers out" i was there for so long because i refused to work it. i didnt talk in group, i only participated in seminars for points....
so it seems like yall know me so well since im so" i love the program" in all. do it really seem like i liked being there so much?
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On 2005-06-13 12:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"the only lies im accussing people of that i know are lies are the ones about csa because i went there. i dont know if kids were beat before i went i can only tell you what happened. i dont even get the argument over csa. have you been there?"
Isnt this you? Now you say your friend was beat.. I dont get it? :???:
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listen to your self... my ex boyfriend tried to beat me... why would i let some one else beat me if i didnt even let him. i'd be the first to say something.
Because you had no choice. Because you had no way to leave CSA. Because you couldn't even tell your parents-- that would be "manipulating" :roll: . Because you had no other option than to stay there and endure.
i think the only thing i didnt like about that school was that i couldnt talk to boys, see my parents, and smoke a ciggarette. actually i had seen plenty of kids taking to o.p and restrained. but they were all restrained cuz they were being stupid and tryingto kill themselves or someone else. and all they did was put them on the floor, then sat them up and talked to them. if that didnt work they were taken out side with upper levels.
That's a lie. Kids are sent to OP for 3, 4, and 5 category rule violations. There, they are forced to lie on the floor, on their faces, for days. They are often sat on, beaten up, and abused in other ways.
its hard to believe that abuse happened when they've got people there 24/7 watching. if someone was abused dont you think they would have written home. parents would have had cops there in a sencond.
Oh, you think? Parents are told constantly that they shouldn't believe what their own children are telling them, that any criticism of the program or of the abuse that goes on in there is "manipulation". And once the parents go through Discovery, most of them choose the program over their own children anyway. The kids learn early on that their parents won't help them, because the parents have chosen to beleive some programmed stranger rather than their own flesh and blood.
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true... they dont go anymore for cat 3 4 and 5.. you have to be reallly flipping out. and they dont lay down thats a t tranquility.. they have to stand up wit hthere hands on the wall for 15 minutes...
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On 2005-06-14 09:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-13 12:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"the only lies im accussing people of that i know are lies are the ones about csa because i went there. i dont know if kids were beat before i went i can only tell you what happened. i dont even get the argument over csa. have you been there?"
Isnt this you? Now you say your friend was beat.. I dont get it? :???: "
whos who me....who? i didnt write that
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On 2005-06-14 09:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"true... they dont go anymore for cat 3 4 and 5.. you have to be reallly flipping out. and they dont lay down thats a t tranquility.. they have to stand up wit hthere hands on the wall for 15 minutes..."
I find that extremely hard to believe.
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On 2005-06-14 10:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-14 09:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"true... they dont go anymore for cat 3 4 and 5.. you have to be reallly flipping out. and they dont lay down thats a t tranquility.. they have to stand up wit hthere hands on the wall for 15 minutes..."
I find that extremely hard to believe. "
i dont care if you find it hard to believe.. when was the last time you were there? would you like me to send you the rule sheet i have>?
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On 2005-06-14 10:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-14 10:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-14 09:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"true... they dont go anymore for cat 3 4 and 5.. you have to be reallly flipping out. and they dont lay down thats a t tranquility.. they have to stand up wit hthere hands on the wall for 15 minutes..."
I find that extremely hard to believe. "
i dont care if you find it hard to believe.. when was the last time you were there? would you like me to send you the rule sheet i have>?"
No, thanks. I've talked to (and statements from) people who were there, and who, unlike, do not try to distort the truth. That's all I need.
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ok....im sure they know too
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then should agree about that statement that person just made if they were they... they'd know the truth