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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Newton's License
« on: January 17, 2005, 08:20:00 PM »
Thanks for the license information, I was searching for that yesterday!

Re your post directly above -- can you put that link to your website in again?

Thanks again.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 1996 DFAF Annual Report. Somebody made a typo!
« on: January 15, 2005, 09:05:00 PM »
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.ex ... CAFOUN&r5=

Check out the above link, scroll to the bottom, you can click on the Annual Report for the years 1996-2005 --some years it is given in a format that is much easier to read.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / DFAF New Address
« on: January 15, 2005, 05:12:00 PM »
Yes, it's hanging on my wall.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 1996 DFAF Annual Report. Somebody made a typo!
« on: January 15, 2005, 03:12:00 PM »
http://www.sunbiz.org/COR/1996/0620/70791007.TIF

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 2002: Sembler and McCord both deleted from DFAF
« on: January 15, 2005, 02:56:00 PM »
http://www.sunbiz.org/COR/2002/0316/12800487.tif

(Scroll down, it looks blank at first.)

2002 was also the year that Betty, Lasher, Snyder and Holton came on. Interesting. I wonder what the story is.[ This Message was edited by: N.I. on 2005-01-15 11:59 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / DFAF New Address
« on: January 15, 2005, 02:30:00 PM »
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.ex ... UNDATI&r5=

Florida Non Profit

DRUG FREE AMERICA FOUNDATION, INC.


PRINCIPAL ADDRESS
2600 9TH ST NORTH
SUITE 200
SAINT PETERSBURG FL 33704
Changed 01/06/2005


MAILING ADDRESS
2600 9TH ST NORTH
SUITE 200
ST PETERSBURG FL 33704
Changed 01/06/2005

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / FYI, if you're looking for more information
« on: January 14, 2005, 04:45:00 AM »
Check out: http://http://fornits.com/coolboard

I haven't figured out how to "search" over there yet, but it is archives of old posts.

(Antigen -- I went to the main Search button, down at the bottom on the left, but I don't think it is searching the coolboard archive. For example, I put in "bingo", knowing that was a word that came up many times, but it "returned 0 items." Thanks for any advice.)

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Up for a little Conspiracy Theory, anyone?
« on: January 10, 2005, 04:30:00 AM »
The Straight model so perfectly fits known brainwashing techniques! I want to know: who knew what they were doing? Did exec staff know? Did the BOD know? The national directors? Has anyone ever admitted to knowing that what they were doing to the kids was brainwashing? How much was junior and senior staff told?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Will Sembler threaten to sue Montel?
« on: January 08, 2005, 11:01:00 AM »
Wes has a substantial history of the Semblers at the link he provided.

"Historically,                                            whenever stories of abuse at Straight                                            have surfaced, instead of fixing the                                            problem, the Semblers have resorted                                            to damage control by doing things like..." [see the link for the rest]

It is worth reading. I think it is worth putting folks on alert to watch what happens. Will history repeat itself? If it does not, what is different this time? Without going off on too much of a tangent, the Straights and the historical events surrounding them exist in the greater web of culture. Speaking out about them is challenging a boundary mark. We would like the territory beyond the boundary to be visible. There are many who would like it to remain in darkness.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / The Durbin Torture Amendment (mentions sensory deprivation,
« on: January 05, 2005, 11:13:00 PM »
I agree. It has been vindication to me to find that the Army, no less, considers the things that were done to us to be crimes.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / The Durbin Torture Amendment (mentions sensory deprivation,
« on: January 05, 2005, 10:05:00 PM »
To anonymous poster: Those are all good questions, worth further research. If you were to call a law enforcement agent and tell them (for example) that you were forced to stand up for a long time twenty years ago, what are they going to do for you? However, I believe that all of the stories put together are immensely significant.

I would suggest keeping a written record of your memories of Straight, as well as getting copies of any medical, psych and school records that could help verify information.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / The Durbin Torture Amendment (mentions sensory deprivation,
« on: January 05, 2005, 08:07:00 PM »
(6) Army Regulation 190-8 entitled `Enemy Prisoners of War, Retained Personnel, Civilian Internees and Other Detainees' provides that `Inhumane treatment is a serious and punishable violation under international law and the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)....  All prisoners will receive humane treatment without regard to race, nationality, religion, political opinion, sex, or other criteria.  The following acts are prohibited: murder, torture, corporal punishment, mutilation, the taking of hostages, sensory deprivation, collective punishments, execution without trial by proper authority, and all cruel and degrading treatment....  All persons will be respected as human beings.  They will be protected against all acts of violence to include rape, forced prostitution, assault and theft, insults, public curiosity, bodily injury, and reprisals of any kind.... This list is not exclusive.'.

(7) The Field Manual on Intelligence Interrogation of the Department of the Army states that `acts of violence or intimidation, including physical or mental torture, threats, insults, or exposure to inhumane treatment as a means of or an aid to interrogation' are `illegal'.  Such Manual defines `infliction of pain through... bondage (other than legitimate use of restraints to prevent escape)', `forcing an individual to stand, sit, or kneel in abnormal positions for prolonged periods of time', `food deprivation', and `any form of beating' as `physical torture', defines `abnormal sleep deprivation' as `mental torture', and prohibits the use of such tactics under any circumstances.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / The Durbin Torture Amendment (mentions sensory deprivation,
« on: January 05, 2005, 07:40:00 PM »
Jan 5: It looks like the version the president signed into law had deleted Durbin's amendment regarding torture and the humane treatment of detainees. I will try to verify this with the Senator's office. However, at least part of the intent of Durbin's amendment was to reaffirm laws that already exist regarding torture. For example, paragraphs 6 and 7 refer to Army Regulations, international law and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Surely laws that protect enemy combatants are good enough for children who are citizens of the United States.

Recent posts to this forum, for example in the Marathoning thread, mention specific incidences of torture.


The link in the post above doesn't work anymore. Try this one for some connections to other documents on torture:
http://http://durbin.senate.gov/sitepages/Issues/OIF-prisonerabuse.htm.  When I find a good link for Durbin's amendment I'll put it here.[ This Message was edited by: N.I. on 2005-01-05 16:53 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / From an attorney if it helps...
« on: January 05, 2005, 03:28:00 PM »
Art. 12.05. [183] [231] [221] Absence from State and time of
pendency of indictment, etc., not computed

(a) The time during which the accused is absent from the state shall
not be computed in the period of limitation.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / From an attorney if it helps...
« on: January 03, 2005, 09:06:00 PM »
Oh, what the hell. I'm in the mood.

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"I am an attorney, and the reason no firms will take your case "

1. It has not been factually established that "no" firms will take our "case".
2. I believe our "case" is inaccurate -- it should be our "cases."

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"is because you are fighting a losing battle. It is absolutely hopeless. Yes, hopeless. "

3. It is unprofessional for a lawyer to make such a statement regarding a case that they have not thoroughly researched.

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"And, Mel Sembler has much too much influence and power to ever be bothered my your alledged allegations. "

4. Bigger men have been brought down before.

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" In regards to Straight, you have even less of a chance because of the years that have gone by."

5. I don't think you have done your homework.

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" Also, Mel's son and grandson were both in similar programs, and Mel, using this fact to back up his testimony, will claim he did not know of the abuses that occured in Straigh or any other programs he may have been affiliated with, and he will claim that he would never have subjected his familiy to these abuses; the Judge WILL believe him...trust me.



6. Considering the unprofessionalism of your other "legal" advice I am not inclined to trust your opinion in the matter.

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"In regards to prosecuting former staff members of your programs, you have to remember that they will claim you were all abusive, drug using, lying, irresponsible adolescents. They will claim that any "abuse" was used to necessarily restrain violent clients. "

7. This may be accurate, but then again, there are many former staff members who regret their involvement in Straight and in the abuse that went on there, who I believe will testify on our behalf. Also, I believe there are many clients who will testify under oath as to the circumstances surrounding restraints.


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"The only possible way to get your programs, staff or administrators of programs into court would be if somebody died or had serious physical injury while in a program;"

8. There have been many suicides, and several known cases of serious and lasting physical damage.

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"and this injury/death must be within the last, oh, say 3 years to be safe. Surely no more than 5. I'm not sure what the statute of limitations is on abuses in your respective states, but the ones I'm familiar with are no more than 5-7 years. Claiming any kind of mental abuse is extremely hard to prove and will be a waste of money."



9. It is clear that you have not done your homework.

10. Regarding the rest of your advice, which was of a more personal nature, I would only say to each his own.

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