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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Some Posts Deleted
« on: September 09, 2008, 12:25:24 AM »
Hello former Seedlings!!!!

God bless you all and God bless Fornits!!!  I conversed with a Rick that has had contact with Susie C (staff member).  I agree with Rick and Greg about the Seed.  I first have something to say that all who search for the Seed will read my words following.

WELCOME!!!!

Here is the beacon from fornits lighthouse lighting the way for all of us that have felt lost...searcing for another seedling with which to share our experiences, the good and the bad.  We are here and hopefully here for a long time.  Come on in and join, post and send an email to one of us that has experienced your pain and your life lessons.  Know that all of us here KNOW of the experience that you have gone through and we DO understand.  Welcome home, traveler.  You have found your place where you can share your memories and we know what you've been through.  You have found your place.


Not only have I found my way here, but I have been in touch with someone else that has recently found this site.  Thank goodness that fornits has not done away with our discussion group.  If it had, I would not of finally found my way here or the people that know what I've had been through.  Most all the posts were from several years ago, but I never thought about doing a seach on Goggle until this year.  My dreams that I had over and over again and my strong desire to find this one, very wonderful staff member that just her presence at a rap gave me the security I needed to feel safe.  I finally got to tell her thank you and that really meant a lot to me.  I seached for her back in the 1980's and when they told me she no longer worked there I felt that I would never get to tell her thank you, but I did!!!
Please never let this discussion die because there are others out there who will look for someone also that experienced the fears, the sleepless nights, the PB&J's and we can laugh with them or cry...share our pain, heal and hopefully we can all realize that we are better people for our experience.  I know for some of the discussions that there has been those that suffered and I am sorry, but you also can help those that experienced what you did and help them heal.  Thank you Rick, Susie C and Paula.  Also, I want to thank all those others that posted like GregFL, Ginger and all the others that I haven't spoke to but only read their posts.  Let us all keep the beacon burning.

With love,
Another Seedling, Beth

P.S.  I can't remember who...I think it was grad1 that mentioned a Rose I.  Is she Cuban/American?  I was looking for her also.  When I went to the Keys back in the 80's we stopped by Ft Lauderdale on our way down and spent the night in Miami on our way back.  I have several times after that tried to find my oldcomer Rose I.  When I knew how to spell her last name, there was so many people with that last name that I couldn't figure which one.  While in Miami, I did call several, but not one of them knew Rose.

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I hope somebody will see this post.  I decided today that I was going to try to find out if the Seed still existed.  I looked up the Seed and found the Mustard Seed in St Pete and called up.  It was a drug rehab, but not what I was looking for.  I just wanted to reach out and touch someone.  I have had dreams over the years about the Seed, still sing the song and smile.  Today I was trying to picture the staff and what they would look like at 55-65 years old and if they were still there.  I felt the Seed helped to change my life.  It brought an awareness that I didn't have and understanding of ME.  It helped me to sort out what was "truth" and find out who I was.  It was my first opportunity to find that I could be me and could have friends.  As I grew and learned from life's lessons, I was able to accept myself the way I am...well maybe just that I am weird and different, but that I don't have to try to fit in the "normal" mode.  During the many years that past after the Seed I would tell people that I was grateful for the Seed, but that if I "screwed up", I would NEVER go back.  I learned the lessons that have helped me to make choices for me and not to continue doing drugs and screwing up not only my life, but the lives of my children.  They know I did drugs, but they also know that drugs are bad!  I wonder what happened to Suzie, Amy (?), Billy the short guy with the blue VW bug.  I remember the bountiful meals we had at the Vero Beach Seed and then we went to Ft Lauderdale and had the PBJ sandwiches Monday thru Friday lunch Ham & cheese for Fridaynite/Saturday lunch and tuna fish for Saturday nite and I didn't eat on Sunday lunch because someone had gotten food poisoning.  Yes...Heck yes things were tough.  We had to deal with the human part of the program (the bad part)  pointing fingers at others before they could point them at you, being the kicked dog when the boss yelled at you.  I remember standing up for hours down in Miami (after getting home late) as punishment for not "being honest".  Going to bed at 2-3 am and then getting up at 6 to go to Hialeah to be dropped off before I was taken to the Seed.

I am glad someone else talked about being an outsider when the went back to visit.  I finally had a ride to go down there from Cocoa and I was so excited to be able to visit...It was horrible!  I was not welcomed.  I swear that they had changed it to look more like a prison and I never checked back again...except in my dreams. 

I also was there in 1974....April Fools Day, I went in got out just before graduation...talked to my boyfriend and got sent back.  Finally graduated the program sometime before January of 1975.

I hope that I can find someone that was in Vero Beach and got transferred down to Ft Lauderdale.  I really want to find another "Seedling".  I have read some of the posts, but I intend to go through all of them.  Thanks to all of you that have posted and those that will!!!!  Liz

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Another 73/74 Seedling Grad
« on: July 02, 2008, 12:58:11 AM »
I hope somebody will see this post.  I decided today that I was going to try to find out if the Seed still existed.  I looked up the Seed and found the Mustard Seed in St Pete and called up.  It was a drug rehab, but not what I was looking for.  I just wanted to reach out and touch someone.  I have had dreams over the years about the Seed, still sing the song and smile.  Today I was trying to picture the staff and what they would look like at 55-65 years old and if they were still there.  I felt the Seed helped to change my life.  It brought an awareness that I didn't have and understanding of ME.  It helped me to sort out what was "truth" and find out who I was.  It was my first opportunity to find that I could be me and could have friends.  As I grew and learned from life's lessons, I was able to accept myself the way I am...well maybe just that I am weird and different, but that I don't have to try to fit in the "normal" mode.  During the many years that past after the Seed I would tell people that I was grateful for the Seed, but that if I "screwed up", I would NEVER go back.  I learned the lessons that have helped me to make choices for me and not to continue doing drugs and screwing up not only my life, but the lives of my children.  They know I did drugs, but they also know that drugs are bad!  I wonder what happened to Suzie, Amy (?), Billy the short guy with the blue VW bug.  I remember the bountiful meals we had at the Vero Beach Seed and then we went to Ft Lauderdale and had the PBJ sandwiches Monday thru Friday lunch Ham & cheese for Fridaynite/Saturday lunch and tuna fish for Saturday nite and I didn't eat on Sunday lunch because someone had gotten food poisoning.  Yes...Heck yes things were tough.  We had to deal with the human part of the program (the bad part)  pointing fingers at others before they could point them at you, being the kicked dog when the boss yelled at you.  I remember standing up for hours down in Miami (after getting home late) as punishment for not "being honest".  Going to bed at 2-3 am and then getting up at 6 to go to Hialeah to be dropped off before I was taken to the Seed.

I am glad someone else talked about being an outsider when the went back to visit.  I finally had a ride to go down there from Cocoa and I was so excited to be able to visit...It was horrible!  I was not welcomed.  I swear that they had changed it to look more like a prison and I never checked back again...except in my dreams. 

I also was there in 1974....April Fools Day, I went in got out just before graduation...talked to my boyfriend and got sent back.  Finally graduated the program sometime before January of 1975.

I hope that I can find someone that was in Vero Beach and got transferred down to Ft Lauderdale.  I really want to find another "Seedling".  I have read some of the posts, but I intend to go through all of them.  Thanks to all of you that have posted and those that will!!!!  Liz

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