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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Troll Control on March 09, 2006, 10:04:00 AM

Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: Troll Control on March 09, 2006, 10:04:00 AM
I was just mulling this over, but maybe we can get some dialogue going about how something like this might work.

There are many former HLa staff out there who are well-respected professionals in their disciplines who disagree with the policies of HLA.  However, whenever any of these folks express their concerns publicly they are immediately sued by HLa via Q&Q.

One example:  Brian Church.  Brian was formerly the Director of Admissions (correct me if I'm wrong) and when he left he was sued for breach of contract and gagged.  Mr. Church is well respected and would be a credible source of information, but he's beensued into submission.

There are many others out there like Mr. Church, but they are afraid to speak up.  

Many of the parents of HLA kids are extremely angry and frustrated at the way they and their children were treated.  These folks tend to have means.  What if these people of means stood up for the people who can deliver the goods on HLA by setting up a legal fund for the whistle-blowers?

To the dissatisfied, cheated parents of HLA kids who are looking for redress of your grievances, I guess the question is "How bad do you want it?"

If anyone can give me input on this idea, I'm listening.  I'll put the right people in touch with one another, but someone's going to have to foot the legal bills...
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: juniper2 on March 09, 2006, 11:59:00 AM
A class action would be an idea...not only brought by the parents, but the staff as well.
The problem with 'class' is that for an attorney to take it, there has to be a 'bag' worthwhile at the end.  But, they would take it on contingency 40%... You only need one parent and one staff to start it, but one cannot already have a different lawsuit to start it..or I would have...I have the right attorneys for it... One, choice, the major player in the "Tobacco" lawsuit...Bob Montgomery..
Just need all the docs and one initial player,
on each side.
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 12:21:00 PM
The parents and staff don't have the same damage. They can not be unified into a class.
:silly:
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: Troll Control on March 09, 2006, 12:26:00 PM
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On 2006-03-09 09:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"The parents and staff don't have the same damage. They can not be unified into a class."


I agree with this statement.

Perhaps I haven't explained myself well enough.  What I was thinking is that there are staff willing to talk, but who know they're going to incur legal expenses by doing so.  There are parents who want to take action, but lack corroborating evidence/testimony that could easily be provided by staff.

So...  My thinking was that the parents organize to foot the bill for the staff's legal problems in exchange for the staff's testimony in a class action lawsuit brought by the parents.  Quid pro quo.

Does that make more sense?
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: juniper2 on March 09, 2006, 12:36:00 PM
not unified separate class actions..
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: juniper2 on March 09, 2006, 12:38:00 PM
That would be an idea.
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 05:28:00 PM
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On 2006-03-09 08:59:00, juniper2 wrote:

" You only need one parent and one staff to start it, but one cannot already have a different lawsuit to start it..or I would have...I have the right attorneys for it..."  



Do you have a suit against HLA?
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 06:01:00 PM
wrong
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: juniper2 on March 09, 2006, 06:05:00 PM
Wrong about what?
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: Troll Control on March 09, 2006, 08:22:00 PM
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On 2006-03-09 15:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

"wrong "


Again, the anon staff member is wrong.  Just wait and see.  HLA is going to be defending itself in civil court very soon.  It's also going to have some serious questions to answer after the audit.
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: odie on March 10, 2006, 12:57:00 PM
They are being audited? hmmm now that should be interesting. Would love to see the results of that.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough.
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Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2006, 06:32:00 PM
they conduct a yearly audit by private cpa firm , no big surprise there.
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: Troll Control on March 10, 2006, 08:49:00 PM
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On 2006-03-10 15:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"they conduct a yearly audit by private cpa firm , no big surprise there."


uh, this one will be an irs audit.  no big surprise there, either.  nothing like a little forensic accounting to see where all that money went.
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: RobertBruce on March 10, 2006, 11:06:00 PM
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On 2006-03-10 15:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"they conduct a yearly audit by private cpa firm , no big surprise there."


Ummm no Bullfrog this would be one that wouldnt be the normal bullshit.
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: SHH on March 10, 2006, 11:20:00 PM
Robert quit assuming every anonymous post is mine. This is my first post in days.....check your IP's will ya? or ask Deborah or Ginger to go check. And leave me out of this right now.
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: RobertBruce on March 11, 2006, 12:09:00 AM
Oh Bullfrog I dont assume they are all yours. Just the ones that obviously are.

Im sorry your prose just screams "ignorant and close minded."

You just cant hide that.

So tell us what your "mole" has been cluing you in on? Are you ready to acknowledge the truth about HLA or are you still going to carry your bucket of sand around wherever you go. Ready to bury your head in it at a moments notice refusing to accept even the most obvious things.

What of Bill? What are his plans now? Has he given you some bs reason for leaving or has he clued you in on the truth?

Maybe thats why your so quiet these days. You are so shocked about being so wrong all this time you just dont know what to say at this point.
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2006, 02:17:00 PM
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On 2006-03-10 21:09:00, RobertBruce wrote:

"Oh Bullfrog I dont assume they are all yours. Just the ones that obviously are.



Im sorry your prose just screams "ignorant and close minded."



You just cant hide that.



So tell us what your "mole" has been cluing you in on? Are you ready to acknowledge the truth about HLA or are you still going to carry your bucket of sand around wherever you go. Ready to bury your head in it at a moments notice refusing to accept even the most obvious things.



What of Bill? What are his plans now? Has he given you some bs reason for leaving or has he clued you in on the truth?



Maybe thats why your so quiet these days. You are so shocked about being so wrong all this time you just dont know what to say at this point. "


anyone else notice that when SHH stopped posting, so did RobertBruce?  the guy has no life except to wait for SHH to post so he can try to bait her into an argument.  GROW UP!!!
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: RobertBruce on March 11, 2006, 04:04:00 PM
The truth of the matter is Shh and I are the same person.

Its a sort of Norman Bates type arangement.

Or you could look a little closer puppet.
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2006, 06:57:00 PM
steve and Devon you two make a great couple
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: RobertBruce on March 11, 2006, 08:17:00 PM
I'll pass it along if you like.
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: SHH on March 12, 2006, 12:22:00 AM
Um, Robert and I are not the same person.
Title: What About a "Legal Fund"?
Post by: Troll Control on March 12, 2006, 08:42:00 AM
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On 2006-03-09 07:04:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

"I was just mulling this over, but maybe we can get some dialogue going about how something like this might work.



There are many former HLa staff out there who are well-respected professionals in their disciplines who disagree with the policies of HLA.  However, whenever any of these folks express their concerns publicly they are immediately sued by HLa via Q&Q.



One example:  Brian Church.  Brian was formerly the Director of Admissions (correct me if I'm wrong) and when he left he was sued for breach of contract and gagged.  Mr. Church is well respected and would be a credible source of information, but he's beensued into submission.



There are many others out there like Mr. Church, but they are afraid to speak up.  



Many of the parents of HLA kids are extremely angry and frustrated at the way they and their children were treated.  These folks tend to have means.  What if these people of means stood up for the people who can deliver the goods on HLA by setting up a legal fund for the whistle-blowers?



To the dissatisfied, cheated parents of HLA kids who are looking for redress of your grievances, I guess the question is "How bad do you want it?"



If anyone can give me input on this idea, I'm listening.  I'll put the right people in touch with one another, but someone's going to have to foot the legal bills...
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