Post by: misbehaver on October 01, 2001, 05:35:01 PM
My name is Jason and I served six months at the Cincinnati Straight, Inc. facility during 1986. I fought every
day and was ultimately sent to a psych ward after I shimmied up a 30ft. I beam and threatened to jump.
I was also locked in an intake room for 18+/= days in an attempt to "break" me; I responded by shitting in my sock and swinging it wildly overhead. Har! Also, dubbed the "jedi master" thru my exploitatation of flourescent bulbs as swords. Yes, I was beaten down by these mindless zombies; but my specialty was the conversion of upper phasers to my "cause". I reached so many that the staff brought in "specialists" prepared to remove me to the Boston group...I got to them harder than then they ever got to me...
Dumb assed Question #1: why does it still hurt when I dream of this time in my life?
DAQ#2: will I ever be able to fully leave this episode in the past? how?
BTW, thanks to the people of this forum; I feel somewhat "at home"...
Jason
Post by: LESTAT49203 on October 01, 2001, 11:20:25 PM
Another Cincy survivor, cool! Glad u found the place. I was there from late May of 84 to Dec 85. Sounds like we just missed each other. Bet we know a lot of the same people though. Was Joann Weaver still on staff while u were there? How about Laura Crash or Nicki Upson? Maybe Cathy Perisan, she was the group staff supervisor while I was there. Was Gregory still serving those crappy dinners? He was the caterer. Well anyway hope to hear more from you. Cincy84
Post by: misbehaver on October 02, 2001, 01:42:09 AM
Yea Lestat, some of those "wimmen" were still in residence. Let me see, uck ya Joann Weaver with the lisp and beat up Camaro? All of a sudden she be a no show; people said she did herself.. Weaver wobble weak and she all fall down; sorry about the fat bitch's hard luck case...Har!
Oh yea, Darling Nicki; she was the resident soccer babe. Man, she held an apology over my ass so long; I thought I'd never eat a solid meal again. I bet if we hooked up today, well....
Nasty ass Laura Crash (and her gumbo Gimp Bro Andy); seems like every time she told her story about pissing in her pants; she got hotter and hottter. SICK. Bad complexion, too. Nasty....
Gregory's "meals" were far and few for me. I was on the "Misbehaver Policy" for so long that the only food I actually trusted came from from "decent" host homes and "loving" host sisters (and Mothers). hugs-n-rugs.
Take it easy, Bro Lestat. Jason
Post by: LESTAT49203 on November 01, 2001, 04:18:41 AM
How about Tony Wheeldon, Tom Alsinio, Jim Henderson, Harry Douglas, Eileen Flemming, Mr Jerry Rushing, Mrs Boyd, Kristen Day, Heather Smith, Mike Rea, or Greg Corbin. These are all people I remember to. Do you know what happened to any of these people, or have any stories about them while you were there? What was that about Joann? I haven't heard about any of them since I left for Michigan. Hey by the way do you have Yahoo Messenger?
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 02:21:19 PM
Lestat, yep there was a rumour that lil' Joann comitted suicide. (she just disappeared, i dunno...)
Also, many of the people you mentioned were still at the Funhouse, if I remember that little boy Harry used to like to kick the @#%$ outta me w/his cowboy boots (bad case of Little/Big Man complex) and Mike Rea was funny as hell; after he fell to the "dark side". I knew many of the others, but if ya wanna batch of war stories, ya gotta buy the beers! Are ya still in the area?
Thinking back, most of the techniques used against me were ill-conceived and futile. Take the belt loop grasp: With one hand out of play, I usually let gravity take us down (while the poor phaser's other arm is trying to break the fall), always making sure that I fell on THEM. After a while, I was off the belt loop and just surrounded by an entourage of big dudes. Kinda felt like da Prez.
I had only one rule: Never screw around at the host home. Period. This usually meant that I was treated with marginal humanity and often was well received, even liked. This drove the poor phasers nuts to see me run so Hot and Cold. When I did write an MI, it was usually because I sensed weakness or doubt in my oldcomer and wanted to help them "see the light". More than a few did...
My "tour of duty" came to an abrupt end after I heard that I was going to Boston. After all my hard work, they wanted a divorce! Couldn't let that happen. So, while lined up at the feeding window, I clamped onto one of the I beams and Spider-Man like to da rafters. I was laughing madly and spitting at people, threatening to jump. Har! not likely. Those silly fucks were following me around with matresses; it was a beautifully choreographed exit. Once I spotted the cops and EMTs, I knew victory was mine. 6 weeks later I was outta the psych ward (they decided i wasn't nuts, just determined) and back in the World.
Ya know, the worst thing is realizing that this evil is still being perpetrated at the very same building...Jason
Edited by: misbehaver at: 11/1/01 11:25:39 am
Post by: LESTAT49203 on November 01, 2001, 04:43:50 PM
@#%$ I'd love to buy the beers, but unforntunately I'am back in Michigan now. I was a court ordered and not allowed back to the state without going to jail or finishing Straight. If I would have realized back then, that I would have been out of jail alot sooner than I got out of Straight, I definitly would have picked jail. lol It was kinda like from the movie "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" With Jack Nicholson. Jack thought it would be easier serving his time out in a psyc ward instead of prison and the next thing ya know the poor guy gets a lobotomy. Well that kinda happened to me. Except my lobotomy was a brainwashing. Start out thinking "I'll just go along to get out of here", then the next thing ya know BAM! Iam gone and some jackass flapping his arms around like a idiot and singing songs like Zippity Do Da is sitting in my chair. lol I still get can't believe it. Seems like it happened to another person or something. Anyway. I think maybe you have Harry mixed up with Phil Corben. Phil was a short guy who liked to were those Cowboy boots. Harry was a huge Colored guy. (sorry I don't know whats politically correct) He was my newcomer when he first came in the program and super cool. I heard he had gone on trainee after I left. What about the Yahoo Instant Messenger? Do you have it? We can bullshit online with it. Leave your email address if you want and I can send it to you. Or if you already have it my ID is lestat49203
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 05:04:37 PM
you're right, Lestat. I mixed up coolass,calm Harry with that little shitbird Phil. What a punk...
Yea, I've got the Yahoo Messenger, lets wrap this @#%$ up... I'm just not into badmouthing people who aren't around to defend their positions. I'll make an exception in this case. Catcha on the Yahoo.. Jason
Post by: ramprato on November 01, 2001, 11:45:06 AM
Just Wanted to say Jason,
Glad you found these sites. I was in Cincinnati around the same time that Lestat was in, so our path's never crossed, I also live in Michigan. You sound like a determined person and that's a great strength to have when dealing with a bunch of nutcakes (staff) in a Mind Rape Mill. I "graduate", I put the word "graduated in quotations because I no longer recognize its significance.
I hope your healing today and have a better outlook at life. I prey that they didn't break you to too bad, and that you can move on despite them. Keep on posting, I look forward to them.......
If you want to talk my email address is [email protected]
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 12:36:12 PM
thanks, Ken. I kinda stumbled upon this site; glad I did. I realize my above postings may seem sick or twisted, but I don't talk about Straight much and when I do, I just purge as many thoughts and images as possible. I also recognize this forum is not my personal dumping ground, this will be reflected in future posts.
As far as being "broken", I think not. I'm quite certain I did much more self-inflicted damage following Straight.
I must admit, I do take pride in the fact that I never ran away or bowed to those freakin lepers. Funny thing,
when I was sent to my OWN home as a newcomer it only strengthened my resolve to never surrender. Jason
Post by: StraightIncAlumni on November 01, 2001, 05:13:18 PM
Hi Jason
I too was in Cincinnati in fact one of the originals that flew up from St. Pete in January 1982. 7th Steped about 11 months after we came up.
Tom had replied about Gregory's crappy food. It was a feast compared to the stuff we were given in St. Petersburg. Anyway glad you found the group, I just found it today but run another message board called Straight Inc. Alumni
You can e-mail me at [email protected] if you want.
Don
Post by: doc2714 on November 01, 2001, 11:36:34 PM
Jason, glad you found this site. I can definitely relate to the constant fighting. I was at Cincy Straight 2+ years between cop-outs and was on first phase for about two years. Copped out twice and was finally KICKED out by Dave Crock (Exec.Staff) for causing a riot of misbehavers. Since Straight I have had several prison stays with the Indiana Dept. of Corrections and numerous mental hospital visits, but somehow I have stuffed it all down for about ten years now and stayed out of trouble. However, it is starting to unravel now (since I found;
LoveYa!
DOC
If you are a parent of a kid which you are considering placing in a coercive behavior modification center or a kid in such a place, please don't spend another day in your solitary hell. Call me at (941)761-3153 lets talk, we can discuss the consequences and the alternatives to such a program.
Post by: doc2714 on November 01, 2001, 11:43:22 PM
Also,
at the site mentioned in the above post they dont bleep out the profanity like they do here, and of course it is NEVER censored in any way. We were censored too long at straight!
DOC
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 02:32:15 PM
I know the rage, it used to be my constant companion. Besides drugs and booze, it was (and still is) one of the few constants in my life. I dunno about being able to help you, but I sure can relate to most of the $HIT that you described. It's been cool finding this forum and talking with others like you and Lestat, but I'm not so sure I could/would enjoy chatting with alumni members who had ANYTHING positive to say about the program.
BTW, I thought I was a hard case, but two fuking years on 1st phase...Man, that's real time endurance. You outta go out on one of my "survival" trips, you'd have no problem dealing with deprivation. I do these "trips" to keep me from coming unglued in this artificial environment most people enjoy with great comfort. I don't.
The last time was a weeklong "swamp romp" in the Tensaw Delta in AL. I usually just pay off a local landowner and go native. I like to think of it as a "soul cleanse". You can email me if you want: [email protected]
Take it easy, Bro Doc, Jason.
Post by: 2dogs2 on November 01, 2001, 11:08:41 PM
Jason, I am a member of the other site too. I think you would at least get a kick out of it. 100 % of the members hated Straight , A few try to remember good friends, but there are some who just need to be @#%$ with and I could sure use a hand! (lol) 2-DOGS
Post by: 2dogs2 on November 01, 2001, 11:10:50 PM
" F. U. C. K .E .D . W. I. T. H. "
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 11:50:25 PM
Looks like I'll give the alumni a looksee. I'm just not willing to pussyfoot around with anyone who harbors ANY wavering or mealyass attitudes regarding what went on at Straight. I do not hate the former staffers, but I refuse to accept any excuses for their actions. I may sound hostile; and I am. I'll not be restrained again.
BTW, I thoroughly enjoyed yer post about motivatin' thru da window. Watch yer six, bro dogs...Jason
Post by: allen on November 01, 2001, 04:58:54 PM
Hey Jason I bet I know you. I was in Cincinnati from feb'86 to june'87. My name is allen. I was of age, from out of town (iowa) and hosted with the kriegers. I fell pretty bad because i bet i restrained you or at least watched you in an intake room. I remember two jasons. One sang black sabbath and told me baout randy roadeswhen i went to his house as an oldcomer. The other, i guess both told me dirty jokes in the intake room when we were alone. Does that ring any bells? Once i got out of there i never spoke to anyone again. Maybe we can talk. You might be pissed at me if you are who i think you are but you have to believe that even though i was brain washed and bought the bullshit, i never reported you or anything. I have yahoo messenger also sohit me up. [email protected].
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 10:27:03 PM
Hey Allen, Live at Last is a Black Sabbath album; guess that answers which "Jason" I am.
I'm not pissed at you (unless you believe what was done to everyone at Straight was OK)...
Didn't think so. I remember the Krieger bros (twins)?? Had a bigass Buick Rivi, green i think.?
I don't remember ya offhand, but I was only at my OWN home for a few days and my focus was on my parents. And REAL food. I got ther in feb. 86 also, but was gone by sept. I'd like to talk. Yahoo=Survivitall
Jason
Post by: allen on November 01, 2001, 11:20:05 AM
well its good to hear from ya. I'm pretty sure i know who you are and i remember your little humorz. They were appreciated. It always diturbed me that people would just disappear and no one would or even could say anything about it. Of course the jerk off staff always suggested the worst for anyone who left and if you were scared into tneir bullshit like i was then you imagined all sorts of things. There you were going to the psych ward and you were more sane than anyone who stayed there. I'm sure you have a lot of anger but you have to feel good that you held out while everyone else stopped thinking for themselves. I wonder what it was about you that protected you from falling for the whole straight thing.
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 12:49:33 PM
Sorry, I just can't place you, Allen. I'll just take your word that you were one of the cooler phasers. hehe
You're right, I do have a lot of anger and it's shown up lately since I've been thinking more about Straight...
I suppose that it's good to release, but I definitely need to focus it properly. I kinda blew a gasket on another Straight forum over a silly poll. Not a good demonstration of my reformed and kindly social skills. Har!
I'm sure I wasn't any more sane that most other phasers, I just took a different path to the end game. Many people might argue it took much more mental stability to bullshit or willingly concede to finish what was a genuinely demanding task (graduate). I've gained more respect lately for 7th steppers. In retrospect, fighting and running from the program was easier, but far more damaging, IMHO. I'm just glad I made it out alive. My only host brother did not. (i was on 2nd phase for a week or so, till I discovered it was more miserable than being on the Misbehaver Policy)
Take it easy, good talking with you Bro Allen, Jason.
Post by: journeyan on November 01, 2001, 12:49:33 PM
Jason,
You have no idea how far reaching the Straight program was back then. I was sixteen in 1986 and never had the "pleasure" of being in Straight Inc., but I think perhaps my group got the worse deal (smile). You see, Dr. Miller Newton had just left Straight Inc and started his own baby in Hackensack, NJ called the KIDS of Begren County program with a sister program in El Paso, TX. We were hearing stories about the hell you guys were getting and the legal stuff and being told how lucky we were. By the way, I was never the "rebellious" type. But I saw, tackled and baby-sat enough kids in an intake room to know what 18 days in there can do to you.
I escaped three times, got it right just before my eighteenth birthday and as an adult, wrote a kick ass book about it. My agent in NYC loved it, but surprise, surprise most of the publishers loved it too, but were too damn intimidated by the content to touch it. That was three years ago. I still think of perhaps writing a screenplay from it. Would love to hear more about your experiences.
And oh, Jason. I still dream about them, too. Wake up, crying and sweating my ass off. I was the first black girl they'd ever had in the Program and with a strict, abusive religious family and no drug/alcohol history. Dr. Newton and his staff decided I was anorexic. Incredible.
Christian
Post by: GregFL on December 02, 2001, 12:42:04 AM
HELLO, Journey,
EMAIL ME AT [email protected]. I would like to discuss something with you
Post by: Kathy on December 01, 2001, 12:23:11 PM
So when you guys write ***&^&%% you aren't doing that on your own??? I thought you were! I run this site and do NOT censor! It must be something with the ez board company. I had no idea, thanks for bringing it to my attention.!
Kathy
Post by: kaydeejaded on December 01, 2001, 03:15:47 PM
Just had to reply cause ya sound like me back in the day.
I think we had similar goals when it came to STRAIGHT get out and while we were in make their lives hell too
I was in Boston from 89-91 and eventually ended up in the Rhode Island Psych ward (loved it glad to be there) I guess they weren't breakin me either
Post by: kaydeejaded on December 01, 2001, 06:32:18 AM
Writing a screenplay about your expierence is a really great idea. I wrote a great deal after I got out of Straight. It was healing. It was a release. For you if you write something that reaches the masses something could happen. Probably nothing drastic but maybe another brick in the wall will come down. People are really ignorant to the situations that happen in these type of treatment programs. Civil rights are irrelevant and people... my parents and sadly my friends really do not comprehend the damage that is inflicted on individuals and the fact that some people are ruined for life. (choosing to use words that will not be censored) some idividuals I know from the program are dead and some are mentally destroyed. They way I see it and please feel free to correct me if you or anyone thinks I am wrong is that we were emotionally injured by this but we can still talk about it and we are still alive. I think that Straight Inc..Mrs Gear Mrs Boyle and the ignorant vindictive fucks that associated with this Nazi white arien (sp?) coup. need to be prosecuted for endangerment, manslaughter, and neglect. And crazy shout out to Tom Driscoll I hope you are reading this sight and I want you to know you are a pansey pathetic dickless bitch, and I took that punch in the face from you but if we were in the real world you would have gotten your ass beat for hitting a girl and then I would of kicked you while you were down. I know you are lost without Straight to tell you what to do. Get a life of your own. Enough bullsht bout him sorry I tend to ramble if I get fired up. Stay strong and happy in this very strange world.... we will be OK as long as the goverment doesn't get us all killed ...peace and love Kady
Post by: misbehaver on October 01, 2001, 05:35:01 PM
My name is Jason and I served six months at the Cincinnati Straight, Inc. facility during 1986. I fought every
day and was ultimately sent to a psych ward after I shimmied up a 30ft. I beam and threatened to jump.
I was also locked in an intake room for 18+/= days in an attempt to "break" me; I responded by shitting in my sock and swinging it wildly overhead. Har! Also, dubbed the "jedi master" thru my exploitatation of flourescent bulbs as swords. Yes, I was beaten down by these mindless zombies; but my specialty was the conversion of upper phasers to my "cause". I reached so many that the staff brought in "specialists" prepared to remove me to the Boston group...I got to them harder than then they ever got to me...
Dumb assed Question #1: why does it still hurt when I dream of this time in my life?
DAQ#2: will I ever be able to fully leave this episode in the past? how?
BTW, thanks to the people of this forum; I feel somewhat "at home"...
Jason
Post by: LESTAT49203 on October 01, 2001, 11:20:25 PM
Another Cincy survivor, cool! Glad u found the place. I was there from late May of 84 to Dec 85. Sounds like we just missed each other. Bet we know a lot of the same people though. Was Joann Weaver still on staff while u were there? How about Laura Crash or Nicki Upson? Maybe Cathy Perisan, she was the group staff supervisor while I was there. Was Gregory still serving those crappy dinners? He was the caterer. Well anyway hope to hear more from you. Cincy84
Post by: misbehaver on October 02, 2001, 01:42:09 AM
Yea Lestat, some of those "wimmen" were still in residence. Let me see, uck ya Joann Weaver with the lisp and beat up Camaro? All of a sudden she be a no show; people said she did herself.. Weaver wobble weak and she all fall down; sorry about the fat bitch's hard luck case...Har!
Oh yea, Darling Nicki; she was the resident soccer babe. Man, she held an apology over my ass so long; I thought I'd never eat a solid meal again. I bet if we hooked up today, well....
Nasty ass Laura Crash (and her gumbo Gimp Bro Andy); seems like every time she told her story about pissing in her pants; she got hotter and hottter. SICK. Bad complexion, too. Nasty....
Gregory's "meals" were far and few for me. I was on the "Misbehaver Policy" for so long that the only food I actually trusted came from from "decent" host homes and "loving" host sisters (and Mothers). hugs-n-rugs.
Take it easy, Bro Lestat. Jason
Post by: LESTAT49203 on November 01, 2001, 04:18:41 AM
How about Tony Wheeldon, Tom Alsinio, Jim Henderson, Harry Douglas, Eileen Flemming, Mr Jerry Rushing, Mrs Boyd, Kristen Day, Heather Smith, Mike Rea, or Greg Corbin. These are all people I remember to. Do you know what happened to any of these people, or have any stories about them while you were there? What was that about Joann? I haven't heard about any of them since I left for Michigan. Hey by the way do you have Yahoo Messenger?
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 02:21:19 PM
Lestat, yep there was a rumour that lil' Joann comitted suicide. (she just disappeared, i dunno...)
Also, many of the people you mentioned were still at the Funhouse, if I remember that little boy Harry used to like to kick the @#%$ outta me w/his cowboy boots (bad case of Little/Big Man complex) and Mike Rea was funny as hell; after he fell to the "dark side". I knew many of the others, but if ya wanna batch of war stories, ya gotta buy the beers! Are ya still in the area?
Thinking back, most of the techniques used against me were ill-conceived and futile. Take the belt loop grasp: With one hand out of play, I usually let gravity take us down (while the poor phaser's other arm is trying to break the fall), always making sure that I fell on THEM. After a while, I was off the belt loop and just surrounded by an entourage of big dudes. Kinda felt like da Prez.
I had only one rule: Never screw around at the host home. Period. This usually meant that I was treated with marginal humanity and often was well received, even liked. This drove the poor phasers nuts to see me run so Hot and Cold. When I did write an MI, it was usually because I sensed weakness or doubt in my oldcomer and wanted to help them "see the light". More than a few did...
My "tour of duty" came to an abrupt end after I heard that I was going to Boston. After all my hard work, they wanted a divorce! Couldn't let that happen. So, while lined up at the feeding window, I clamped onto one of the I beams and Spider-Man like to da rafters. I was laughing madly and spitting at people, threatening to jump. Har! not likely. Those silly fucks were following me around with matresses; it was a beautifully choreographed exit. Once I spotted the cops and EMTs, I knew victory was mine. 6 weeks later I was outta the psych ward (they decided i wasn't nuts, just determined) and back in the World.
Ya know, the worst thing is realizing that this evil is still being perpetrated at the very same building...Jason
Edited by: misbehaver at: 11/1/01 11:25:39 am
Post by: LESTAT49203 on November 01, 2001, 04:43:50 PM
@#%$ I'd love to buy the beers, but unforntunately I'am back in Michigan now. I was a court ordered and not allowed back to the state without going to jail or finishing Straight. If I would have realized back then, that I would have been out of jail alot sooner than I got out of Straight, I definitly would have picked jail. lol It was kinda like from the movie "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" With Jack Nicholson. Jack thought it would be easier serving his time out in a psyc ward instead of prison and the next thing ya know the poor guy gets a lobotomy. Well that kinda happened to me. Except my lobotomy was a brainwashing. Start out thinking "I'll just go along to get out of here", then the next thing ya know BAM! Iam gone and some jackass flapping his arms around like a idiot and singing songs like Zippity Do Da is sitting in my chair. lol I still get can't believe it. Seems like it happened to another person or something. Anyway. I think maybe you have Harry mixed up with Phil Corben. Phil was a short guy who liked to were those Cowboy boots. Harry was a huge Colored guy. (sorry I don't know whats politically correct) He was my newcomer when he first came in the program and super cool. I heard he had gone on trainee after I left. What about the Yahoo Instant Messenger? Do you have it? We can bullshit online with it. Leave your email address if you want and I can send it to you. Or if you already have it my ID is lestat49203
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 05:04:37 PM
you're right, Lestat. I mixed up coolass,calm Harry with that little shitbird Phil. What a punk...
Yea, I've got the Yahoo Messenger, lets wrap this @#%$ up... I'm just not into badmouthing people who aren't around to defend their positions. I'll make an exception in this case. Catcha on the Yahoo.. Jason
Post by: ramprato on November 01, 2001, 11:45:06 AM
Just Wanted to say Jason,
Glad you found these sites. I was in Cincinnati around the same time that Lestat was in, so our path's never crossed, I also live in Michigan. You sound like a determined person and that's a great strength to have when dealing with a bunch of nutcakes (staff) in a Mind Rape Mill. I "graduate", I put the word "graduated in quotations because I no longer recognize its significance.
I hope your healing today and have a better outlook at life. I prey that they didn't break you to too bad, and that you can move on despite them. Keep on posting, I look forward to them.......
If you want to talk my email address is [email protected]
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 12:36:12 PM
thanks, Ken. I kinda stumbled upon this site; glad I did. I realize my above postings may seem sick or twisted, but I don't talk about Straight much and when I do, I just purge as many thoughts and images as possible. I also recognize this forum is not my personal dumping ground, this will be reflected in future posts.
As far as being "broken", I think not. I'm quite certain I did much more self-inflicted damage following Straight.
I must admit, I do take pride in the fact that I never ran away or bowed to those freakin lepers. Funny thing,
when I was sent to my OWN home as a newcomer it only strengthened my resolve to never surrender. Jason
Post by: StraightIncAlumni on November 01, 2001, 05:13:18 PM
Hi Jason
I too was in Cincinnati in fact one of the originals that flew up from St. Pete in January 1982. 7th Steped about 11 months after we came up.
Tom had replied about Gregory's crappy food. It was a feast compared to the stuff we were given in St. Petersburg. Anyway glad you found the group, I just found it today but run another message board called Straight Inc. Alumni
You can e-mail me at [email protected] if you want.
Don
Post by: doc2714 on November 01, 2001, 11:36:34 PM
Jason, glad you found this site. I can definitely relate to the constant fighting. I was at Cincy Straight 2+ years between cop-outs and was on first phase for about two years. Copped out twice and was finally KICKED out by Dave Crock (Exec.Staff) for causing a riot of misbehavers. Since Straight I have had several prison stays with the Indiana Dept. of Corrections and numerous mental hospital visits, but somehow I have stuffed it all down for about ten years now and stayed out of trouble. However, it is starting to unravel now (since I found;
LoveYa!
DOC
If you are a parent of a kid which you are considering placing in a coercive behavior modification center or a kid in such a place, please don't spend another day in your solitary hell. Call me at (941)761-3153 lets talk, we can discuss the consequences and the alternatives to such a program.
Post by: doc2714 on November 01, 2001, 11:43:22 PM
Also,
at the site mentioned in the above post they dont bleep out the profanity like they do here, and of course it is NEVER censored in any way. We were censored too long at straight!
DOC
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 02:32:15 PM
I know the rage, it used to be my constant companion. Besides drugs and booze, it was (and still is) one of the few constants in my life. I dunno about being able to help you, but I sure can relate to most of the $HIT that you described. It's been cool finding this forum and talking with others like you and Lestat, but I'm not so sure I could/would enjoy chatting with alumni members who had ANYTHING positive to say about the program.
BTW, I thought I was a hard case, but two fuking years on 1st phase...Man, that's real time endurance. You outta go out on one of my "survival" trips, you'd have no problem dealing with deprivation. I do these "trips" to keep me from coming unglued in this artificial environment most people enjoy with great comfort. I don't.
The last time was a weeklong "swamp romp" in the Tensaw Delta in AL. I usually just pay off a local landowner and go native. I like to think of it as a "soul cleanse". You can email me if you want: [email protected]
Take it easy, Bro Doc, Jason.
Post by: 2dogs2 on November 01, 2001, 11:08:41 PM
Jason, I am a member of the other site too. I think you would at least get a kick out of it. 100 % of the members hated Straight , A few try to remember good friends, but there are some who just need to be @#%$ with and I could sure use a hand! (lol) 2-DOGS
Post by: 2dogs2 on November 01, 2001, 11:10:50 PM
" F. U. C. K .E .D . W. I. T. H. "
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 11:50:25 PM
Looks like I'll give the alumni a looksee. I'm just not willing to pussyfoot around with anyone who harbors ANY wavering or mealyass attitudes regarding what went on at Straight. I do not hate the former staffers, but I refuse to accept any excuses for their actions. I may sound hostile; and I am. I'll not be restrained again.
BTW, I thoroughly enjoyed yer post about motivatin' thru da window. Watch yer six, bro dogs...Jason
Post by: allen on November 01, 2001, 04:58:54 PM
Hey Jason I bet I know you. I was in Cincinnati from feb'86 to june'87. My name is allen. I was of age, from out of town (iowa) and hosted with the kriegers. I fell pretty bad because i bet i restrained you or at least watched you in an intake room. I remember two jasons. One sang black sabbath and told me baout randy roadeswhen i went to his house as an oldcomer. The other, i guess both told me dirty jokes in the intake room when we were alone. Does that ring any bells? Once i got out of there i never spoke to anyone again. Maybe we can talk. You might be pissed at me if you are who i think you are but you have to believe that even though i was brain washed and bought the bullshit, i never reported you or anything. I have yahoo messenger also sohit me up. [email protected].
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 10:27:03 PM
Hey Allen, Live at Last is a Black Sabbath album; guess that answers which "Jason" I am.
I'm not pissed at you (unless you believe what was done to everyone at Straight was OK)...
Didn't think so. I remember the Krieger bros (twins)?? Had a bigass Buick Rivi, green i think.?
I don't remember ya offhand, but I was only at my OWN home for a few days and my focus was on my parents. And REAL food. I got ther in feb. 86 also, but was gone by sept. I'd like to talk. Yahoo=Survivitall
Jason
Post by: allen on November 01, 2001, 11:20:05 AM
well its good to hear from ya. I'm pretty sure i know who you are and i remember your little humorz. They were appreciated. It always diturbed me that people would just disappear and no one would or even could say anything about it. Of course the jerk off staff always suggested the worst for anyone who left and if you were scared into tneir bullshit like i was then you imagined all sorts of things. There you were going to the psych ward and you were more sane than anyone who stayed there. I'm sure you have a lot of anger but you have to feel good that you held out while everyone else stopped thinking for themselves. I wonder what it was about you that protected you from falling for the whole straight thing.
Post by: misbehaver on November 01, 2001, 12:49:33 PM
Sorry, I just can't place you, Allen. I'll just take your word that you were one of the cooler phasers. hehe
You're right, I do have a lot of anger and it's shown up lately since I've been thinking more about Straight...
I suppose that it's good to release, but I definitely need to focus it properly. I kinda blew a gasket on another Straight forum over a silly poll. Not a good demonstration of my reformed and kindly social skills. Har!
I'm sure I wasn't any more sane that most other phasers, I just took a different path to the end game. Many people might argue it took much more mental stability to bullshit or willingly concede to finish what was a genuinely demanding task (graduate). I've gained more respect lately for 7th steppers. In retrospect, fighting and running from the program was easier, but far more damaging, IMHO. I'm just glad I made it out alive. My only host brother did not. (i was on 2nd phase for a week or so, till I discovered it was more miserable than being on the Misbehaver Policy)
Take it easy, good talking with you Bro Allen, Jason.
Post by: journeyan on December 01, 2001, 08:52:12 PM
Jason,
You have no idea how far reaching the Straight program was back then. I was sixteen in 1986 and never had the "pleasure" of being in Straight Inc., but I think perhaps my group got the worse deal (smile). You see, Dr. Miller Newton had just left Straight Inc and started his own baby in Hackensack, NJ called the KIDS of Begren County program with a sister program in El Paso, TX. We were hearing stories about the hell you guys were getting and the legal stuff and being told how lucky we were. By the way, I was never the "rebellious" type. But I saw, tackled and baby-sat enough kids in an intake room to know what 18 days in there can do to you.
I escaped three times, got it right just before my eighteenth birthday and as an adult, wrote a kick ass book about it. My agent in NYC loved it, but surprise, surprise most of the publishers loved it too, but were too damn intimidated by the content to touch it. That was three years ago. I still think of perhaps writing a screenplay from it. Would love to hear more about your experiences.
And oh, Jason. I still dream about them, too. Wake up, crying and sweating my ass off. I was the first black girl they'd ever had in the Program and with a strict, abusive religious family and no drug/alcohol history. Dr. Newton and his staff decided I was anorexic. Incredible.
Christian
Post by: jnloar on November 19, 2003, 03:32:00 AM