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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / ATTENTION CONFLICTED VOTERS!!!
« on: October 29, 2004, 05:43:00 AM »
Hey!!! Do you want to defeat George W Bush (who gave STRAIGHT founders Mel and Betty Sembler a cushy life representing the U.S. in Rome) but also want to vote for a 3rd party candidate? I found a website that lets you do BOTH!

http://www.votepair.org

I majored in government in college and I HATE the electoral college. Through vote pairing I get to support third party ideals while helping elect John Kerry.

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Elan School / Elan this, Elan that WGAS?
« on: October 22, 2004, 04:36:00 AM »
Quote
On 2004-08-20 23:36:00, Anonymous wrote:

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"Shes having them"



My boss and friend breeds champion rottweilers. One of them had pups today. Woohoo



What would otherwise cost $2200 dollars will not cost me a dime. I reserved a choice female from the litter.



Mom and dad onsite. Awesome well mannered non-aggressive dogs with beautiful markings.


"




TO THOSE INTERESTED IN DOGS: mom and dad 'onsite' usually means someone is a backyard breeder. this breeder better have a house full of trophies to prove that they happen to own the best bitch and best sire of that breed. if they can't justify why that breeding pair is the absolute best to advance the breed then they  are really just breeding to make money.

a word to the wise: if you aren't planning to enter your dog in shows there is no reason to buy from a breeder. shelters and breed rescue groups can provide all the purebred dogs you'd ever want.

here's just one example of a rescue group:

http://www.rottrescue.org/

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The Troubled Teen Industry / turn on the HISTORY CHANNEL
« on: October 21, 2004, 11:37:00 PM »
"illegal drugs and how they got that way" is on now. it's good!!!!!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "Drug Wars" program on MTV right now
« on: October 19, 2004, 12:43:00 AM »
what a waste, now i remember why i don't watch mtv. 50 percent show, 50 percent commercials. booo!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "Drug Wars" program on MTV right now
« on: October 18, 2004, 11:10:00 PM »
the next topic is about what TREATMENT PROGRAMS Bush supports. Turn on MTV~~!!!!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Pysical Abuse
« on: October 12, 2004, 01:58:00 PM »
PLEASE POST your stories about Straight, Inc at http://www.ripoffreport.com. I really think it is a good forum to expose the shady facilities like Straight and potentially keep other kids out of them. I was so shocked to find no reports on these type of facilities at that site!

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I really love this website and I think it's a good place to give the finger to businesses that did people wrong: http://www.ripoffreport.com

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The Troubled Teen Industry / hello, my name is alicia
« on: October 12, 2004, 02:07:00 AM »
Brown said: "How dare me to tell you? How dare you tell me. How can you tell me that you know more than I do on this subject? Were you in the program? Did you spend 13 months in one of these places? I doubt it. I spent 13 months of my life working to graduate. Now that I have, I am very proud of it. I wouldn't trade it for anything. People like you, read one article about the abuse at these places, and then think that you are an expert. You think that you are so right, that when someone like me comes along that actually has been there comes along you are to stubburn to even listen."

Were you in ALL of the facilities? No. Were you present during EVERY case of supposed abuse? No. Are you capable of actually absorbing my words? Apparently not. You clearly don't understand my argument or my concerns, which means that your  rebuttals to it are as solid as a fart in the wind.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / hello, my name is alicia
« on: October 12, 2004, 01:40:00 AM »
I guess I need to point out very clearly to you  that I am oppossed to the restrictive programs that cut children off from their parents and/or programs that allow unqualified individuals to exercise control over children. TRANSPARENCY means full disclosure about their practices and COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT means allowing others to inspect the facility to ensure it is adhering to rigorous standards of care.

I refuse to believe that one person can tell me that every story of abuse in these programs is fabricated. How dare you presume to know what every residential facility is like! I'm glad your particular experience did you so much good, but just because some people have good experiences in some facilities doesn't mean that everyone else does. Thousands of good results do not warrant dismissal of one person's torture.

If you are going to be an advocate for residential treatment centers, I suggest you work to eradicate those that give the industry a bad name. [ This Message was edited by: alicia1981 on 2004-10-11 22:42 ]

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The Troubled Teen Industry / hello, my name is alicia
« on: October 11, 2004, 11:58:00 PM »
I stumbled upon a story about practices at  Straight, Inc and I was appalled. I scoured the net for more information and read multiple horror stories about these facilities. Now I can't get them out of my head. I have never been in one but if I had been, I can say with certainty that I would have committed suicide. To be given over to strangers simply because my family trusts them and to be molested or abused by those strangers would have absolutely shattered my naive pre-teen world view.

I don't want ANY human to be unjustly imprisoned or abused. I cannot stand it that these things have been happening in our country without extreme public outcry - so I want to add my voice to those that are speaking out now. I have been looking for ways to do so and I'm thankful for the organizations that I mention below.

The fact that children are handed over to these facilities by their own parents it the ultimate breach of parental responsibility. People say that the parents don't know to whom they are committing their kids, that the facilities produce slick brochures and glowing recommendations from other parents. Those who know the truth need to broadcast it every way they can to combat this deception. Any parent who gives a damn should look beyond the facilities and their spokespeople when investigating them. (visit http://www.isaccorp.org for tips) Parents are supposed to protect their children, not hand them over to be victimized by such monsters. At http://www.thestraights.com , the author establishes this wise rule: "We shall tolerate no treatment program where children can not talk, in private, with their parents."

That the government aids and sanctions these organizations makes the situation even more chilling. There will always be sadists, rapists and abusers that torment people who can't defend themselves. Our government is tasked with imprisoning and incapacitating these people, not sanctioning their atrocities. We are tasked with holding our government accountable. Contact your representatives and find out how they vote on these issues; the five minutes you spend searching for the names of your representatives is worth it.

If you know what happens in these places but you don't take any action, you are complicit in the abuse that continues today; if you don't do anything to expose these facilities to the wider population then you might as well close this window because you don't really care. If you are a parent who hands your children over to these people, it is the same as abusing them yourself. In our internet age, there is simply no excuse for ignorance. It's becoming clear to me that if a bad facility exists and the kids get out alive, someone on the net is talking about them. I am so glad I found http://www.isaccorp.org today so that I can help expose these horrors and replace the officials that enable them.

Using the media and the web to organize and bring these criminals to justice appears to be very effective. I want to encourage survivors to go to http://www.ripoffreport.com and expose these abusive businesses for what they are. It's a good way to warn other parents who might be doing research on these places and get the message out to an audience that has no tolerance for abusive businesses. I will not accept a society that condones a system in which parents can imprison their unruly children under anything but the strictest standards of transparency and community oversight.
[ This Message was edited by: alicia1981 on 2004-10-11 22:59 ]

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Tacitus' Realm / Kerry quotes
« on: October 11, 2004, 10:23:00 PM »
I would really like people who comment on the candidates to know who the candidates are. If you don't think you have any choice, I'd like you to spread your criticism to all of the candidates, not just the two easiest targets. Your perceived lack of choices isn't the problem - the problem is YOUR choice to be ignorant of your options. PLEASE educate yourself and cast a vote true to your voice on the issues this November.


(survivors: go to http://www.ripoffreport.com and expose these abusive businesses! please!!!)

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New Info / gbts
« on: October 11, 2004, 10:14:00 PM »
These people should be speaking up! If you want to offer constructive criticism, that's fine, but don't offer idiotic and rude remarks that don't serve any purpose besides insulting people who have been injured. I think that people who speak up also need to take steps to ensure that it doesn't happen to another person. So, to those who complain about what happened, PLEASE work to save someone else from it!

go to http://www.ripoffreport.com and expose these deplorable businesses![ This Message was edited by: alicia1981 on 2004-10-11 19:16 ]

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