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Announcements & Tech Support => Web forum hosting => Topic started by: Antigen on November 05, 2007, 08:01:14 PM
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We're going down like a cheap whore again. More details as they float in.
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The fornits, will not be threatened by such empty threats anymore...
The antigen need not worry.
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You positive about that?
Can we get an affirmative from JZ?
also.. why do we insist on posting this for Sue "The Whore of Babylon" Scheff to read and chortle over?
Next time just move the site if we have to and mark it down as an admin hick up.
Sides I'm sure.. JUST positive the fornits movie mogul will be having a sue scheff video in the works right quickly.
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I would strongly consider eliminating the links to all the hate sites and groups that Niles posts (or ask him to do it), Like this one (http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=287218#287218) or this one. (http://http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Jew) Law firms are always looking for pro bono and community work (which could be part of what is going on) and nothing is more satisfying than shutting down (or pursuing) a group which supports hatred towards minorities like Blacks and anti-Semitic material like all the hatred towards Jews links that are posted here.
Trying to play it off as a satire merely teaches the younger readers that hatred is okay as long as you disseminate it as humor or hide behind a veil of ignorance. If I tolerated a person like Niles in any of our companies, even for a few hours, our company would be exposed to a major law suit. Fornits being an open forum on the internet gives you a broader freedom of individual expression, but a continued tolerance towards ignorance and hate (especially in full view of our young people) may not be healthy for the web site over time.
Just an opinion.
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The wretched, tortured beast of a bad loser...What's her problem now? Is she pissed because she's not being given much attention? A psychiatrist friend read over the deranged, angry emails being sent out by a thwarted program parent (Boozo the Bio-dad) and proclaimed them to be "the rantings of a bitter crank" who was impotently lashing until the very end. Sue's doing the same, I guess. What a loser...
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I would strongly consider eliminating the links to all the hate sites and groups that Niles posts (or ask him to do it), Like this one (http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=287218#287218) or this one. (http://http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Jew) Law firms are always looking for pro bono and community work (which could be part of what is going on) and nothing is more satisfying than shutting down (or pursuing) a group which supports hatred towards minorities like Blacks and anti-Semitic material like all the hatred towards Jews links that are posted here.
Trying to play it off as a satire merely teaches the younger readers that hatred is okay as long as you disseminate it as humor or hide behind a veil of ignorance. If I tolerated a person like Niles in any of our companies, even for a few hours, our company would be exposed to a major law suit. Fornits being an open forum on the internet gives you a broader freedom of individual expression, but a continued tolerance towards ignorance and hate (especially in full view of our young people) may not be healthy for the web site over time.
Just an opinion.
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You asshole. Did you have something to do with this? Maybe it's not Sue at all this time, maybe it's the Toxic Twins, CCM and Who. Who, you're a black-hearted sack of shit in league with the Horned One. I'm going to rattle your fucking cage for this. You're going to be publicly exposed, I'm sick of you. I'll post your name and phone number and you can deal with that for a while...
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I would strongly consider eliminating the links to all the hate sites and groups that Niles posts (or ask him to do it), Like this one (http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=287218#287218) or this one. (http://http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Jew) Law firms are always looking for pro bono and community work (which could be part of what is going on) and nothing is more satisfying than shutting down (or pursuing) a group which supports hatred towards minorities like Blacks and anti-Semitic material like all the hatred towards Jews links that are posted here.
Trying to play it off as a satire merely teaches the younger readers that hatred is okay as long as you disseminate it as humor or hide behind a veil of ignorance. If I tolerated a person like Niles in any of our companies, even for a few hours, our company would be exposed to a major law suit. Fornits being an open forum on the internet gives you a broader freedom of individual expression, but a continued tolerance towards ignorance and hate (especially in full view of our young people) may not be healthy for the web site over time.
Just an opinion.
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You asshole. Did you have something to do with this? Maybe it's not Sue at all this time, maybe it's the Toxic Twins, CCM and Who. Who, you're a black-hearted sack of shit in league with the Horned One. I'm going to rattle your fucking cage for this. You're going to be publicly exposed, I'm sick of you. I'll post your name and phone number and you can deal with that for a while...
Why cant you handle a little advice? Do you support that crap that is being posted? You don’t think it is hurtful to this site? Why lash out at advice, why not pursue the problem or root causes. This is why you spin your friggin wheels here, Zen, because you spend too much time trying to hurt people or organizations you disagree with instead of working the issues which led you here to fornits. You guys use this site for your personal gains (pursuing individual grudges, posting porn, hate material) without regard to its safety or the position you may be putting the site owner in.
You are a selfish ingrate, Zen, at least I recognize there is an ongoing issue and express an opinion to help offset it…what have you done ?
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Maybe it's not Sue at all this time, maybe it's the Toxic Twins, CCM and Who.
what do you have against ccm, she is a program survivor.
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at least zen doesn't pimp out his/her kid for profit like TheWhore does. that says a lot.
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working the issues which led you here to fornits
Wow, anyone notice that the more pissed off this clown gets, the more buzzwords he uses?
So tell us Zen, why aren't you working your program? :lol:
I'll post your name and phone number and you can deal with that for a while...
You've had them and you haven't posted them, at least anonymously?
RULE 40: I will be neither chivalrous nor sporting. If I have an unstoppable superweapon, I will use it as early and as often as possible instead of keeping it in reserve.
Zen, you really gotta start playing more hardball.
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Who, my wheels are spinning and they're on the pavement, moving just fine. If you had been paying attention, you might have noticed the references to pending activities SettleForNothing posted. What we keep in "reserve" right now is much more interesting than your worthless identity and your purpose here. Remember, bringing a program to justice is much more difficult than spouting program party line rubbish to maintain the status quo. I don't have any "personal" vendetta against any individual posting on Fornits. Constant illogical arguments for programs from people who don't know shit about the nature of the industry grates on my nerves. You admit to knowing the business of the industry, Who, but you've made it very clear you're clueless about the workings of the beast. I haven't seen a "good" long-term program, and kids are dying too quickly for a "sorting" to be done. I guess Darwin's survival of the fittest will have to apply. Also, I don't post porn, racist comments or your name here, so be grateful, dude. You're aware I know who you are, I've posted a few items that were probably a complete mystery to most readers, but not to you. You quickly posted around them and went back to talking about "Kathy Freer" and other shit of which ye know not, my son.
Anti-Semitic postings on your mind, huh? SettleForNothing and I were talking about program escort services - Settle experienced two escorts by failed footballers and disgraced former cops. We noted a terrible similarity between escort services and a past atrocity...
A teen is startled awake by strangers standing over his/her bed, who inform the teen to quickly dress, they are to leave immediately with the strangers. The strangers also advise the teen that "we can do this tow ways: you walk out with us, or we'll cuff you and haul you out". The teen is not told where he/she is being taken, and when the destination is reached, they realize they're incarcerated, in some cases the teen is forced to stay in a locked facility completely cut-off from outside communication.
What do you think, Who? Does it sound a bit Gestapo-ish to you? I guess not, you support escort services. Why is a kid who hasn't reached the age of majority denied his basic rights and hauled off like an undesirable to a camp?
Yeah, Who, I'm an ingrate. I'm also aware that if Fornits is forced out of existence, you've removed a major obstacle and liability to any "new" programs starting up. You'll be a hero to the clients.
If CCM girl is a program survivor, I guess Miller Newton can call himself a program survivor as well. They both spout a load of deranged shit.
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If CCM girl is a program survivor, I guess Miller Newton can call himself a program survivor as well. They both spout a load of deranged shit.
You just outed yourself as an ideological bigot. Not that it wasn't obvious before.
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If CCM girl is a program survivor, I guess Miller Newton can call himself a program survivor as well. They both spout a load of deranged shit.
You just outed yourself as an ideological bigot. Not that it wasn't obvious before.
Well, if you need to believe that, run with it. Sign in, though, I'd like to know who you are since you seem to have spent time observing me.
CCM girl has been pretty rough on program survivors who don't agree with her, but there's a double standard applied when it's her getting a bit of "stick time" for her views and attacks on other posters.
I don't play that shit. If it walks like a program duck, quacks like a program duck, I'll roast it for an Asian market.
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Zen, Imagine a 10 year old looking thru the internet and comes across fornits and sees the pornography photos and hate sight links and reads the justifications from people like yourself saying it isn’t porn or hatred at all it is “Satireâ€
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If CCM girl is a program survivor, I guess Miller Newton can call himself a program survivor as well. They both spout a load of deranged shit.
You just outed yourself as an ideological bigot. Not that it wasn't obvious before.
Well, if you need to believe that, run with it. Sign in, though, I'd like to know who you are since you seem to have spent time observing me.
CCM girl has been pretty rough on program survivors who don't agree with her, but there's a double standard applied when it's her getting a bit of "stick time" for her views and attacks on other posters.
I don't play that shit. If it walks like a program duck, quacks like a program duck, I'll roast it for an Asian market.
You need anger management therapy. I think you picked the wrong nickname.
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The Who continues to post to Zen Agent: "You can post porn...."
Can you not read, The Who?
Zen Agent posted, "I don't post porn..."
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TheWho is worried about: A ten-year-old reading porn and hate sites on Fornits.
TheWho is NOT worried about: That same ten-year-old getting sent away to the custody of sadists.
You can tell a lot about a man- or even TheWho- by his priorities.
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Zen, Imagine a 10 year old looking thru the internet and comes across fornits and sees the pornography photos and hate sight links and reads the justifications from people like yourself saying it isn’t porn or hatred at all it is “Satireâ€
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so he was bluffing about the name and phone all along.
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My name isn't appropriate?
I didn’t see where I said that in my last post.
If the admins started censoring posts and banning posters, you'd soon lose your privilege to spin, Dr. Who, and lose it for good.
And your privilege to use fornits for your personal platform against PV (or is that TB) as well.
Ten year olds shouldn't be surfing without a little supervision
Ah, I see you have finished your final life step at fornits…I owe you a hug!!!..... lets blame the parents! Very good you have come a long way… let the pedos have their fun, but don’t go an inch outside the group think.
Fornits is like a collective
Okay, I see it more like a cult, but collective is good.
I wouldn't post your name, that would make me as ethically challenged as you. If someone with the ability to throw a monkey wrench into your loathsome activities requested help, I'd give it to them without hesitation, my son.
Give yourself some time here, Zen, and you will. You will get so angry because people don’t agree with your statements that you will post their name and pictures of their family and make fun of them publically. You will do this just because they disagree with you. You are almost there, but mark my word in another year if you are still posting here, you will move on and become that person.
I on the other hand can accept differences in opinions and don’t resort to threatening people if they don’t agree with me, its just not in my make up.
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so he was bluffing about the name and phone all along.
How do you draw that conclusion? Because I said I wouldn't post it? Hey, man, I've never met the guy, this is supposed to be anonymous posting if your choice is to be "'under the radar". You got any juice to interfere with the kind of bid'ness ThePoo engages in? Show me something. Otherwise, it's still his choice if he wants to post his name, I don't want to even get involved in shit like that.
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Zen, that's not how it works.
Do you really expect us to let you know what we intend to do with the information? We don't even know yet. I don't intend anything illegal- instead I iintend to track him down and expose him to his employer (surfing Fornits all day), or expose his employer as a shill user.
The thing to do is just post it, and let Anonymous have our way with him, like a Thai hooker.
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Give yourself some time here, Zen, and you will. You will get so angry because people don’t agree with your statements that you will post their name and pictures of their family and make fun of them publically. You will do this just because they disagree with you. You are almost there, but mark my word in another year if you are still posting here, you will move on and become that person.
I on the other hand can accept differences in opinions and don’t resort to threatening people if they don’t agree with me, its just not in my make up.
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Um...I'm still amazed at the arrogance, even after all this time. Either you or CCM launched a very invasive attack on Niles because of his screaming big monkey. You, or your frequent collaborator pulled some coldblooded shit and then make predictions about when I'll descend to your level? Like I said before, I don't want to be as ethically challenged as you - bankrupt might be a better word.
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Zen, that's not how it works.
Do you really expect us to let you know what we intend to do with the information? We don't even know yet. I don't intend anything illegal- instead I iintend to track him down and expose him to his employer (surfing Fornits all day), or expose his employer as a shill user.
The thing to do is just post it, and let Anonymous have our way with him, like a Thai hooker.
Who is doing his job, assessing Fornits as a risk. I still think he would get scratched behind the ears by his masters if he got Fornits off the internet. Look for the dude most likely to profit and all....
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Here's a big fat tip, Zen: There is NO FUCKING WAY he's going to get Fornits taken down for posting his name. Sue Scheff has a much bigger supposed grievance and she can't do shit. The law simply does not work that way- otherwise any idiot could get any site shut down simply by posting dox. If you're so damn paranoid give it to someone else you know and it can be leaked out slowly. (You can't be the only one who knows it.)
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Zen wrote:
....make predictions about when I'll descend to your level?
To my level,hey man… I am not the one threatening people to post their private information because they disagree with my positions or opinions. I haven’t threatened anyone. You, my man Zen, are the one who is down in the gutter and struggle when others disagree.
I will never get down to that level.
Either you or CCM launched a very invasive attack on Niles because of his screaming big monkey.
Nobody has launched any type of attack, that I am aware of, and if anyone did I dont think it would be because of his monkey postings.
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Zen wrote:
....make predictions about when I'll descend to your level?
To my level,hey man… I am not the one threatening people to post their private information because they disagree with my positions or opinions. I haven’t threatened anyone. You, my man Zen, are the one who is down in the gutter and struggle when others disagree.
I will never get down to that level.
Either you or CCM launched a very invasive attack on Niles because of his screaming big monkey.
Nobody has launched any type of attack, that I am aware of, and if anyone did I dont think it would be because of his monkey postings.
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Really? You got down to the level of being the second person to be banned from Fornits, even temporarily. I mean, it's not like this is Alonzo Woodbury's StrugglingTeens - you were off the rails. My man.
Jesus on His ass, I've got a deceitful scumbucket program troll giving me shit for threatening to post his name, and I've got an unfocused, demanding and militant anon giving me shit for not plastering my man's name everywhere.
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Give yourself some time here, Zen, and you will. You will get so angry because people don’t agree with your statements that you will post their name and pictures of their family and make fun of them publically. You will do this just because they disagree with you. You are almost there, but mark my word in another year if you are still posting here, you will move on and become that person.
I on the other hand can accept differences in opinions and don’t resort to threatening people if they don’t agree with me, its just not in my make up.
You know *who*, people who don't AGREE WITH YOU, end up in programs like your daughter. You start up the foment and then play it cool. You want to talk about personality disorders. you are a sociopath and sadist. I've had psychiatrists and mental health practioners read your posts and it's quite frankly, chilling and telling about your entire puropse here on fornits.
Not one single survivor here has any financial incentive or outward gain by posting here. You, however, do. As do the trolls, whose bank accounts depend on these programs. Their "jobs" are at stake. Parents, take note, these programs are first and foremost a BUSINESS. End of story.
Again who, refute the claim that programs are simply corporations. You can't - they are in the business of making money - bottom line. You aren't here to *save* anyone - as is your "anonymous poster lackey*. You are here to indirectly make sure your assets are not in any jeopardy.
One thing I know of for certain, there is a special place in hell reserved for predators like yourself.
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Really? You got down to the level of being the second person to be banned from Fornits, even temporarily. I mean, it's not like this is Alonzo Woodbury's StrugglingTeens - you were off the rails. My man.
I think I recall you being banned from ST, or am I wrong?. I was banned because I am probably one of the only people who refuse to conform to the group think and still stick around and I expected that type of treatment. It turned out to be a mistake anyway, that is why I am here.
Jesus on His ass, I've got a deceitful scumbucket program troll giving me shit for threatening to post his name, and I've got an unfocused, demanding and militant anon giving me shit for not plastering my man's name everywhere.
You should read back, I haven’t given you crap for threatening to posting my name. I was giving you crap because that is what you are resorting to when people disagree with you. You were not this person when you started posting here. I still believe in the freedom of people posting what they feel, even if it goes against my grain (well maybe not porn and hate sites). You have lost that, Zen, you are as low as they get defending this crap. If it makes you feel good to hang a label on me then more power to you, knock yourself out. I am a parent who had a child attend a wilderness program and a TBS, who happened to benefit from her experience and why this pisses people off and cause everyone to attack her I will never understand.
Post my name if you think you have it and if it makes you feel better or will further your cause. People need to do what they need to do.
As far as trolling…you are the one trolling me. I merely posted an opinion on “Web forum hostingâ€
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I am a parent who had a child attend a wilderness program and a TBS, who happened to benefit from her experience and why this pisses people off and cause everyone to attack her I will never understand.
ah yes, Freud strikes again, I guess - TheWho is the primary one who benefitted from his daughter's "wilderness program". Now she's all growed up with kids, a car and a college education. I guess he got the robot he always wanted. AWWWWW.
& if you are such a beneficient man who has has nothing to hide - why are you so defensive. Hmmm....
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I've had psychiatrists and mental health practioners read your posts and it's quite frankly, chilling and telling about your entire puropse here on fornits.
Please don't tease us like this. Could you have an actual professional please post something on Fornits about their diagnosis of TheWho based on his writings, or give something concrete for you to post?
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I've had psychiatrists and mental health practioners read your posts and it's quite frankly, chilling and telling about your entire puropse here on fornits.
Please don't tease us like this. Could you have an actual professional please post something on Fornits about their diagnosis of TheWho based on his writings, or give something concrete for you to post?
TheWho is laying down, tell it to us slowly.
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just when you think fornits posters can't get any more pathetic, they go and do something like this. good show. bravo.
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Hi Sue! How's that lawsuit working out for you?
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TheWho is worried about: A ten-year-old reading porn and hate sites on Fornits.
TheWho is NOT worried about: That same ten-year-old getting sent away to the custody of sadists.
You can tell a lot about a man- or even TheWho- by his priorities.
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I am a parent who had a child attend a wilderness program and a TBS, who happened to benefit from her experience and why this pisses people off and cause everyone to attack her I will never understand.
I don't recall people attacking TheWho's daughter. Is there something I'm missing? Is TheWho's daughter actually someone else we've come to know and love...?
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Y'know, (as Ginger-Antigen-Cassandra-Scarlett-C. likes to say) it's what one might call getting "pretty deep", you fornit's types who have slandered people who happen to have a difference of opinion with you for so, so long.
Have a look at what recent internet law says about some of your ravings and rantings(materials that are linked on post to this board, by the way):
[For bloggers, all Defamation legal rules apply to their posts. But there are many complications in applying them. First, many people who post online comments, and probably those tending to make the most inflammatory and false statements, will do so anonymously, for obvious reasons. So the first threshold is identifying the blogger making Defamatory claims. Several things make this difficult, as well. Since the blogger probably will not identify themselves when the issue comes to light, there needs to be a legal process that allows identification. They can be traced by high-tech means, but a court must agree via summary judgment that all the elements of Defamation have been met
Well I would imagine that this threshold could be met in terms of posts here on many counts, wouldn't you think?
Let's have a look at what constitutes libel on the internet or on paper, taken from the same document:
There are also four subjects that if falsely dispersed as a fact about another person, are actionable on their face: Attacking a person's professional character /standing; Alleging an unmarried person is unchaste; Claims a person is infected with a sexually transmitted, or loathsome disease; Claims a person has committed a crime of moral turpitude (my highlighting of section
Now, just from my own point of view, I'd say that most if not all of those who have ever disagreed with the fornit's party line have been subjected to at least one of these false attacks (myself included).
So what's your defense, those of you who've taken part in these antics?
Or is it only a matter of some court giving the go-ahead to use extraordinary cyber-measures to track you down?
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I would say you've been visiting Sue-Sue's site and copying a lot of material from her latest blob.
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I don't see the original source cited for all that copying. "Y'know"... she might sue you.
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I think I recall you being banned from ST, or am I wrong?. I was banned because I am probably one of the only people who refuse to conform to the group think and still stick around and I expected that type of treatment. It turned out to be a mistake anyway, that is why I am here.
That's interesting, man. You recently said you didn't know anything about StrugglingTeens, now you sound like a vet and can remember who's been banned. I got banned...never was allowed back. Psy was banned, Reggie North was banned and his name can never be spoken in Alonzo's presence. Our "badges of honor" for not conforming to ST's group think. We didn't have the luxury of presenting opposing views on St. Alonzo's profit-oriented forum like you're permitted on Fornits, and yet you still take that privilege for granted and bitch and moan and play the martyr. No one expects you to conform to the group think, you're in the business of doing business and this forum is useful to you. You need to do...whatever it is you're trying to do... here on Fornits, otherwise you would spend your time on ST with like-minded people, never having to worry about what's satire and what's flat-out prurient material.
You're right, it was a mistake that brought you back here.
As for Fornits "group think" : we have our reasons for being here, too. No argument you make for the industry is going to change the fact my wife and step daughter were abused, treated like shit and kept apart for over six months. PV did physical and mental damage to my step daughter under the guise of the "therapeutic process" and "clinical necessity", which included over-medication, medical neglect and long stretches in isolation.
When someone says "I'd kill anyone who hurt my family", the comment doesn't get much more reaction than a nod. Programs like PV fuck-up families far too often with complete impunity, hiding behind admission contracts, waivers, and a total lack of regulation.
You should read back, I haven’t given you crap for threatening to posting my name. I was giving you crap because that is what you are resorting to when people disagree with you. You were not this person when you started posting here. I still believe in the freedom of people posting what they feel, even if it goes against my grain (well maybe not porn and hate sites). You have lost that, Zen, you are as low as they get defending this crap.
You read back - I didn't defend it, I said the collage on one thread was revolting. I also mentioned my step daughter won't read Fornits because the content is too rough for her. She made the choice not to read Fornits. You have the same option.
As far as trolling…you are the one trolling me. I merely posted an opinion on “Web forum hostingâ€
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[For bloggers, all Defamation legal rules apply to their posts. But there are many complications in applying them. First, many people who post online comments, and probably those tending to make the most inflammatory and false statements, will do so anonymously, for obvious reasons. So the first threshold is identifying the blogger making Defamatory claims. Several things make this difficult, as well. Since the blogger probably will not identify themselves when the issue comes to light, there needs to be a legal process that allows identification. They can be traced by high-tech means, but a court must agree via summary judgment that all the elements of Defamation have been met
And who the hell are you? Dammit, we'll have to use the high-tech means.
I understand what you're talking about, though. It's like when WWASP wanted Sue Scheff's hard drive, and all the information WWASP wanted had been wiped out, deleted, trashed. No fault of Sue's, or course.
Praise be to God, Carey Bock's hard drive contained all the emails WWASP wanted, and everyone breathed a sigh of relief. Right, Sue? (If you're around)
There are also four subjects that if falsely dispersed as a fact about another person, are actionable on their face: Attacking a person's professional character /standing; Alleging an unmarried person is unchaste; Claims a person is infected with a sexually transmitted, or loathsome disease; Claims a person has committed a crime of moral turpitude (my highlighting of section)
First, you have to prove what we're dispersing is false. Second, there's a difference between attacking and being critical. As far as the other three go, I don't want to think about certain people engaging in moral turpitude while infected with Cooties, married or not. We've had enough sick porn for one day.
Now, just from my own point of view, I'd say that most if not all of those who have ever disagreed with the fornit's party line have been subjected to at least one of these false attacks (myself included).
So what's your defense, those of you who've taken part in these antics?
Or is it only a matter of some court giving the go-ahead to use extraordinary cyber-measures to track you down?
Oh please, Mr. Who, don't be putting those cyber-measures on our asses.
My defense will be the display of all your past posts, including the ones you've made as an anon. We can identify the libelous posts you made anonymously with our cutting edge, high-tech, extremely expensive cyber-measures.
How's that case of crotch rot your sister dosed you with?
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to much boo hoo hoo and not enough hee haw haw..
sorry boys.. can't bring myself to give a fuck about Sue or her little whorish minions.
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That's interesting, man. You recently said you didn't know anything about StrugglingTeens, now you sound like a vet and can remember who's been banned. I got banned...never was allowed back.
I remember because you cried like a school girl when you got caught lying to parents and misrepresenting yourself and they exposed you for it and banned you from posting there. Don’t play the victim. Struggling teens was set up for people to have an honest and open conversation about the industry… most parents, myself included, don’t appreciate your immature remarks like “How's that case of crotch rot your sister dosed you with?â€
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Zen, if you take the previous post without a huge chunk of salt, you'll be the last person to take TheWho seriously, and who really wants to be stuck in that position?
His name. Not some long-winded response to this sort of baiting trollery.
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That's interesting, man. You recently said you didn't know anything about StrugglingTeens, now you sound like a vet and can remember who's been banned. I got banned...never was allowed back.
I remember because you cried like a school girl when you got caught lying to parents and misrepresenting yourself and they exposed you for it and banned you from posting there. Don’t play the victim. Struggling teens was set up for people to have an honest and open conversation about the industry… most parents, myself included, don’t appreciate your immature remarks like “How's that case of crotch rot your sister dosed you with?â€
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That's interesting, man. You recently said you didn't know anything about StrugglingTeens, now you sound like a vet and can remember who's been banned. I got banned...never was allowed back.
I remember because you cried like a school girl when you got caught lying to parents and misrepresenting yourself and they exposed you for it and banned you from posting there. Don’t play the victim. Struggling teens was set up for people to have an honest and open conversation about the industry… most parents, myself included, don’t appreciate your immature remarks like “How's that case of crotch rot your sister dosed you with?â€
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God Dang... i just finished reading all of TheWhos bullshit and I just cant understand what the hell his problem is. Maybe subconsciously it is a jealousy war. Meaning TheWho jealous of Zen, because Zen has all of his eggs in the basket, and WHO does clearly not. Seems like TheWho-tchie has got some issues with people disagreeing with HIM. Claiming that Zen "trolls" him, and shit, thats just stupidity. We all know that Zen is no troll. TheWho however, can take his issues of narcissim and shove it. Thinking he is the "god" of Fornits with his accomplice CCM. It is just ridiculous sometimes how people get on this site. Sometimes, it makes me wanna just walk away from Fornits all together, but I could never do that. That would be letting evil win and I am not one to give in to that. I have had enough time in my life of being forced to give in to the evil toxins of this world and now I know I will never allow that to happen again. I will NEVER be a VICTIM to anyone ever again, and by walking away from this site, in a way would be in a way being victimized.
But back to the point (sorry im only on the 1st cup of coffee) TheWho, why dont you just leave Zen alone? Zen does not support the posting of porn and shit, he has a wife and a daughter, in which he protects and cares for so much. Dont make him out to be someone or something he is not. Zen in my opinion, is an inspiration and life saver. He has helped me out thru struggles and was the one who was the first person to ever want to hear my story of what my experiences were. We have been friends for over a year now, and I have ultimate respect for him and his family. If it wasnt for them, I would have never known that anyone was out there in the world to listen to what happened to me and so many others in those wretched hellholes. I never knew that any of this was out there until he informed me. If it wasnt for that, I would not have been involved in the activism I am involved in, would never have met my attorney, would never have even imagined the possiblility of forming a lawsuit and being able also to take the pains of the abuse I experienced, and use that for the greater good to keep me motivated to fighting this cause tooth and nail, until justice prevails or until the day I descend from this world. Whichever comes first.
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Again you assume, but I expected that (the post was not mine).... but I will accept the gesture to have a nice day and the same to you. I do plan to get a little bent, but not until later this month. Your insults are getting softer which is a good sign. Hang in.
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Aw, shucks. You know I love you, man.
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God Dang... i just finished reading all of TheWhos bullshit and I just cant understand what the hell his problem is. Maybe subconsciously it is a jealousy war. Meaning TheWho jealous of Zen, because Zen has all of his eggs in the basket, and WHO does clearly not. Seems like TheWho-tchie has got some issues with people disagreeing with HIM. Claiming that Zen "trolls" him, and shit, thats just stupidity. We all know that Zen is no troll. TheWho however, can take his issues of narcissim and shove it. Thinking he is the "god" of Fornits with his accomplice CCM. It is just ridiculous sometimes how people get on this site. Sometimes, it makes me wanna just walk away from Fornits all together, but I could never do that. That would be letting evil win and I am not one to give in to that. I have had enough time in my life of being forced to give in to the evil toxins of this world and now I know I will never allow that to happen again. I will NEVER be a VICTIM to anyone ever again, and by walking away from this site, in a way would be in a way being victimized.
But back to the point (sorry im only on the 1st cup of coffee) TheWho, why dont you just leave Zen alone? Zen does not support the posting of porn and shit, he has a wife and a daughter, in which he protects and cares for so much. Dont make him out to be someone or something he is not. Zen in my opinion, is an inspiration and life saver. He has helped me out thru struggles and was the one who was the first person to ever want to hear my story of what my experiences were. We have been friends for over a year now, and I have ultimate respect for him and his family. If it wasnt for them, I would have never known that anyone was out there in the world to listen to what happened to me and so many others in those wretched hellholes. I never knew that any of this was out there until he informed me. If it wasnt for that, I would not have been involved in the activism I am involved in, would never have met my attorney, would never have even imagined the possiblility of forming a lawsuit and being able also to take the pains of the abuse I experienced, and use that for the greater good to keep me motivated to fighting this cause tooth and nail, until justice prevails or until the day I descend from this world. Whichever comes first.
Dont ever allow anyone to chase you way. I feel the same way, I will not be chased away either, many have tried. You should have read from the beginning before commenting about my attacks on Zen, Zen was the one who jump on my back and started in with his disgusting retort.
I am sure he is a good person, off the forum or in PM's, but you should talk to him about his language and how he treats other people in the public forums. I am glad to hear he is helping other people like yourself (he doesnt come across that way or show that side of him here on fornits). I am a parent with a family also and I dont think they would appreciate his insults and foul language, threatening to expose people who disagree with him... very immature in my opinion.
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threatening to expose people who disagree with him... very immature in my opinion.
I don't know whether or not Zen threatened to post your name here. I do agree that posting people's personal info on here crosses a line; however, I have no problem with the name of the organization (program?) you work for (if any) being posted here.
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God Dang... i just finished reading all of TheWhos bullshit and I just cant understand what the hell his problem is. Maybe subconsciously it is a jealousy war. Meaning TheWho jealous of Zen, because Zen has all of his eggs in the basket, and WHO does clearly not. Seems like TheWho-tchie has got some issues with people disagreeing with HIM. Claiming that Zen "trolls" him, and shit, thats just stupidity. We all know that Zen is no troll. TheWho however, can take his issues of narcissim and shove it. Thinking he is the "god" of Fornits with his accomplice CCM. It is just ridiculous sometimes how people get on this site. Sometimes, it makes me wanna just walk away from Fornits all together, but I could never do that. That would be letting evil win and I am not one to give in to that. I have had enough time in my life of being forced to give in to the evil toxins of this world and now I know I will never allow that to happen again. I will NEVER be a VICTIM to anyone ever again, and by walking away from this site, in a way would be in a way being victimized.
But back to the point (sorry im only on the 1st cup of coffee) TheWho, why dont you just leave Zen alone? Zen does not support the posting of porn and shit, he has a wife and a daughter, in which he protects and cares for so much. Dont make him out to be someone or something he is not. Zen in my opinion, is an inspiration and life saver. He has helped me out thru struggles and was the one who was the first person to ever want to hear my story of what my experiences were. We have been friends for over a year now, and I have ultimate respect for him and his family. If it wasnt for them, I would have never known that anyone was out there in the world to listen to what happened to me and so many others in those wretched hellholes. I never knew that any of this was out there until he informed me. If it wasnt for that, I would not have been involved in the activism I am involved in, would never have met my attorney, would never have even imagined the possiblility of forming a lawsuit and being able also to take the pains of the abuse I experienced, and use that for the greater good to keep me motivated to fighting this cause tooth and nail, until justice prevails or until the day I descend from this world. Whichever comes first.
Dont ever allow anyone to chase you way. I feel the same way, I will not be chased away either, many have tried. You should have read from the beginning before commenting about my attacks on Zen, Zen was the one who jump on my back and started in with his disgusting retort.
I am sure he is a good person, off the forum or in PM's, but you should talk to him about his language and how he treats other people in the public forums. I am glad to hear he is helping other people like yourself (he doesnt come across that way or show that side of him here on fornits). I am a parent with a family also and I dont think they would appreciate his insults and foul language, threatening to expose people who disagree with him... very immature in my opinion.
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I have read from the beginning. I dont normally post back about it, but I have read. How he treats people? he seems to treat people very well, he is there for people, he is there to stand up for what he believes in. And that is what it is all about. Its a free speech world, and none of us are perfect. I never have seem him threaten anyone who has not deserved it. Attacking trolls and assholes on this site, whats wrong with that?
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threatening to expose people who disagree with him... very immature in my opinion.
I don't know whether or not Zen threatened to post your name here. I do agree that posting people's personal info on here crosses a line; however, I have no problem with the name of the organization (program?) you work for (if any) being posted here.
people saying things out of anger is alot different than actually doing it.
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people saying things out of anger is alot different than actually doing it.
Of course...
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people saying things out of anger is alot different than actually doing it.
Of course...
Yes, words and actions are not the same. They can represent crimes though, if the words rise to the level of libel or terroristic threats.
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but I'm going to give your company's name to this individual and they can go from there.
Threats and passive aggression, tisk tisk.
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but I'm going to give your company's name to this individual and they can go from there.
Threats and passive aggression, tisk tisk.
No threat. Done deal, my man. I'm not going to ever post anything public about your private. Sorry if you think I'm rough on you, but PV did damage to my family that never can be fixed. On the low end of it, I don't think we'll ever view the health profession with anything other than skepticism.
Why do you criticize me for going after PV? It's the facility I know best and did the damage. You criticize people for making wide-sweeping generalizations about the industry and you criticize me for focusing on a place I know is beyond abusive. You're not consistent, you retract, you lie, you distort, all in the name of presenting the "other side". You use abusive program BM techniques on the forum, so forgive me for thinking you're less than human. I have no respect for you, you don't know anything about individual programs, you've shown that, and you're openly dismissive of people's stories of abuse. Your business involvement with the industry, whether direct or indirect, obviously puts you in a position of not being objective. No you don't go with the group think - you have no point of reference since you weren't involved with an abusive facility, but you certainly manage to enrage the group thought and you bring nothing informative. Yeah, I know you'll deny that, but you never have anything to back up your "facts". I'm really, really abrasive with you, I admit it and I don't feel the slightest twinge of doubt when I'm doing it. I see no need to expend any diplomacy on such an obvious agitator and liar with an extremely questionable agenda.
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thanks, Zen.
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but PV did damage to my family that never can be fixed.
So you take your misdirected anger out on TheWho? Makes perfect sense. *rollseyes*
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but PV did damage to my family that never can be fixed.
So you take your misdirected anger out on TheWho? Makes perfect sense. *rollseyes*
For TheWho being an asshole? Yes. Who are you and why are you afraid to identify yourself? Who are you to decide my anger is misdirected? I don't think you'd need more than one hand to count up TheWho's supporters. The forum's been rife in the past with a lot of "misdirected anger" focused on TheWho.
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Zen, I don’t think you are rough on me, once again that wasn’t even my post. You believe what you do because you think every anon post is mine and they are not. Half of your responses to me are directed towards posts that were not written by me; of course you would feel I am inconsistent. What is up with you? Threaten other parents because they disagree with you, using tasteless language about peoples family members you have never met… of course you have no respect for me or anyone else, you have no respect for yourself. Give me a break, you are thin skinned and angry.
Zen, try and listen to other people when they disagree with you. You don’t have to take it personally. They may have a good reason for thinking the way they do.
I am sure your family is suffering from what you have posted, but that doesn’t give you the right to attack other people for their believes. You need to do what it takes to heal and that is why many people here have overlook your aggression, poor manners, judgment and given you space. Try to sit back a little and listen to what other parents have experienced and how they are dealing with it (good and bad experiences).
Sorry if I have been too rough on you today, but you need to chill and I have grown tired of you constant attacks on people.
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Who are you and why are you afraid to identify yourself?
Ha,Ha,Ha..
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I don't see Zen Agent "attacking" anyone on here except for program trolls: TheWho and CCM girl.
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I don't see Zen Agent "attacking" anyone on here except for program trolls: TheWho and CCM girl.
BINGO! we have a winner here!
As I said before, Zen is innocent to the bullshit being said about him! LEave him alone THeWhoEverTheFUckYouAre
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and to add, TheWho, Zen is correct in the fact that you dont have anything concrete to back up your postings, you keep on bouncing back to Zen, ruining the whole purpose of this site, by distracting everyone with this petty bullllshit.
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I don't see Zen Agent "attacking" anyone on here except for program trolls: TheWho and CCM girl.
So he is only attacks parents and survivors.
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I don't see Zen Agent "attacking" anyone on here except for program trolls: TheWho and CCM girl.
CCM is a program survivor, four years incarceration, if I am not mistaken. I think she was in programs longer than anyone else posting on this website.
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and to add, TheWho, Zen is correct in the fact that you dont have anything concrete to back up your postings, you keep on bouncing back to Zen, ruining the whole purpose of this site, by distracting everyone with this petty bullllshit. WHy dont you go crawl back into your cornerhole with the other rats from the sewer of the Troubled-Teen Industry. Myself and Im sure many others have had enough of your distraction techniques, you programme troll. Go dance gaily with the other trolls, skip away, follow the yellowbrick road, tap your slippers and GO HOME!!!!!
:evil:
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CCM girl is a known program troll as well as a survivor.
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and to add, TheWho, Zen is correct in the fact that you dont have anything concrete to back up your postings, you keep on bouncing back to Zen, ruining the whole purpose of this site, by distracting everyone with this petty bullllshit.
Again, if you read back, Zen is the one attacking people, not I.
I am probably the only one on here who has backed up their postings with facts. Here, now note below that the data is back up by NCES National Center for Education Statistics, CDC -- Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, caica.org, isaccorp.org.
NCES still has not released their data for 2004-2005 year..... as soon as it becomes availble I will add the figures in.
You can click on the program type to get more detail if needed.[/b]
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July 1, 2000 thru June 2001 -------There were 1,466 Homicides and 1,493 suicides , 2,959 Total
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 1 suicides, ----- 1 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 1 suicides, ----- 1 Total
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July 1, 2001 thru June 2002 -------There were 1,468 Homicides and 1,400 suicides , 2,868 Total
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
___________________________________________________________________________
July 1, 2002 thru June 2003 -------There were 1,515 Homicides and 1,331 suicides , 2,846 Total
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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July 1, 2003 thru June 2004 -------There were 1,437 Homicides and 1,285 suicides , 2,722 Total
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
TBS - Therapeutic Boarding Schools
NCES National Center for Education Statistics
CDC -- Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
* - Data found here on fornits, internet news articles (caica.org, isaccorp.org), posts and PM?s.... All deaths are verified thru local news articles.
X -- Incomplete or unavailable
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CCM girl is a known program troll as well as a survivor.
Show evidence CCM is affiliated with any program if you want to make that claim. CCM is a program survivor with her own opinion, that's it.
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Zen, I don’t think you are rough on me, once again that wasn’t even my post. You believe what you do because you think every anon post is mine and they are not. Half of your responses to me are directed towards posts that were not written by me; of course you would feel I am inconsistent. What is up with you? Threaten other parents because they disagree with you, using tasteless language about peoples family members you have never met… of course you have no respect for me or anyone else, you have no respect for yourself. Give me a break, you are thin skinned and angry.
Zen, try and listen to other people when they disagree with you. You don’t have to take it personally. They may have a good reason for thinking the way they do.
I am sure your family is suffering from what you have posted, but that doesn’t give you the right to attack other people for their believes. You need to do what it takes to heal and that is why many people here have overlook your aggression, poor manners, judgment and given you space. Try to sit back a little and listen to what other parents have experienced and how they are dealing with it (good and bad experiences).
Sorry if I have been too rough on you today, but you need to chill and I have grown tired of you constant attacks on people.
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No, I've got a lot of respect for a great many people, like Phillip Elberg and George Miller. You intend to provoke people, then call them thin-skinned. And yeah, I only argue with you and your chummy, not "people".
How would my family suffer from what I post? My wife posts here as well, my step daughter did for a while. She thought you were a dick. You're taking some cheap shots, dude.
You speak for a great many people, it seems, or are you using the royal "we"? "that is why many people here have overlook your aggression, poor manners, judgment and given you space." Who the hell are you talking about? It's YOU, and you're such a feeble punk, you have to create a fictional group that you speak for.
And Who....why would I want advice from a parent like you? My step daughter never shut me out and stopped talking to me. Maybe you should sit back and listen to me, you might profit from it.
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I don't see Zen Agent "attacking" anyone on here except for program trolls: TheWho and CCM girl.
BINGO! we have a winner here!
It would seem everyone agrees that Zen Agent has been attacking CCM girl, a program survivor.
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THEWHO AND CCM ARE BOTH PROGAMME TROLLS
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And Who....why would I want advice from a parent like you? My step daughter never shut me out and stopped talking to me. Maybe you should sit back and listen to me, you might profit from it.
Ha,Ha,Ha,… now its come down to (I am the better parent argument), this is beautiful!! My daughter never shut me out or stopped talking to me, you listen and believe all the rumors? Again assumptions, whats with you?
If you believe that, provide me with a link where I stated that nonsense. You people will make up anything to discredit people who dont agree with you.
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THEWHO AND CCM ARE BOTH PROGAMME TROLLS
Why dont you try to contribute something, Joisey, instead of flaming?
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THEWHO AND CCM ARE BOTH PROGAMME TROLLS
Why dont you try to contribute something, Joisey, instead of flaming?
how about ill do what i feel like. and i have contributed... not that i need to care about what anyone feels i should do. its my world i live in it.
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and to add, TheWho, Zen is correct in the fact that you dont have anything concrete to back up your postings, you keep on bouncing back to Zen, ruining the whole purpose of this site, by distracting everyone with this petty bullllshit.
Again, if you read back, Zen is the one attacking people, not I.
I am probably the only one on here who has backed up their postings with facts. Here, now note below that the data is back up by NCES National Center for Education Statistics, CDC -- Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, caica.org, isaccorp.org.
NCES still has not released their data for 2004-2005 year..... as soon as it becomes availble I will add the figures in.
You can click on the program type to get more detail if needed.[/b]
__________________________________________________________________
July 1, 2000 thru June 2001 -------There were 1,466 Homicides and 1,493 suicides , 2,959 Total
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 1 suicides, ----- 1 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 1 suicides, ----- 1 Total
___________________________________________________________________________
July 1, 2001 thru June 2002 -------There were 1,468 Homicides and 1,400 suicides , 2,868 Total
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
___________________________________________________________________________
July 1, 2002 thru June 2003 -------There were 1,515 Homicides and 1,331 suicides , 2,846 Total
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
___________________________________________________________________________
July 1, 2003 thru June 2004 -------There were 1,437 Homicides and 1,285 suicides , 2,722 Total
TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
TBS - Therapeutic Boarding Schools
NCES National Center for Education Statistics
CDC -- Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
* - Data found here on fornits, internet news articles (caica.org, isaccorp.org), posts and PM?s.... All deaths are verified thru local news articles.
X -- Incomplete or unavailable
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What the hell was all that??
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CCM girl is a known program troll as well as a survivor.
Show evidence CCM is affiliated with any program if you want to make that claim. CCM is a program survivor with her own opinion, that's it.
If anyone should need evidence of this, they can go to CCM girl 1989's profile and search on her posts; they will speak for themselves.
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I don't see Zen Agent "attacking" anyone on here except for program trolls: TheWho and CCM girl.
BINGO! we have a winner here!
It would seem everyone agrees that Zen Agent has been attacking CCM girl, a program survivor.
Program survivor and program supporter. Let's not forget her support of the industry.
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CCM girl is a known program troll as well as a survivor.
Show evidence CCM is affiliated with any program if you want to make that claim. CCM is a program survivor with her own opinion, that's it.
If anyone should need evidence of this, they can go to CCM girl 1989's profile and search on her posts; they will speak for themselves.
You were correct, her posts did speak for themselves, she is obviously not affiliated with any program, as she has stated it several times. Thank you for your suggestion, and I am glad we cleared that up.
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I don't see Zen Agent "attacking" anyone on here except for program trolls: TheWho and CCM girl.
BINGO! we have a winner here!
It would seem everyone agrees that Zen Agent has been attacking CCM girl, a program survivor.
Oh, poor defenseless CCM girl! :rofl:
That "survivor" tag is nice, but she's a ball busting bitch who promotes programs. I don't think any Holocaust survivors would promote another Holocaust somewhere because it was a licensed, kinder, gentler Holocaust.
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I don't see Zen Agent "attacking" anyone on here except for program trolls: TheWho and CCM girl.
BINGO! we have a winner here!
It would seem everyone agrees that Zen Agent has been attacking CCM girl, a program survivor.
Program survivor and program supporter. Let's not forget her support of the industry.
I never saw any posts by CCM stating she supports the entire industry as a whole. She is a program survivor with her own opinion, that's it. What gives you the right to attack CCM girl?
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I never saw any posts by CCM stating she supports the entire industry as a whole. She is a program survivor with her own opinion, that's it. What gives you the right to attack CCM girl?
Dunno. What gives CCM girl the right to attack Niles with vulgar language and insults for NOT being in a program? She's an ideological bigot. A bitch, too.
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What gives you the right to attack CCM girl?
Oh, just a little thing called freedom of speech.
What you call "attack" translates to "call bullshit on."
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I never saw any posts by CCM stating she supports the entire industry as a whole. She is a program survivor with her own opinion, that's it. What gives you the right to attack CCM girl?
Dunno. What gives CCM girl the right to attack Niles with vulgar language and insults for NOT being in a program? She's an ideological bigot. A bitch, too.
Niles puts a ton of porn out there when she posts and he is the one with the mouth
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What gives you the right to attack CCM girl?
Oh, just a little thing called freedom of speech.
What you call "attack" translates to "call bullshit on."
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And who gives a flying fuck about the stupid bullshit that Nihilanthic posts?
Summa that sht was pretty fuckin' funny despite its terrible effects on the thread's functionality and shit like that..
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I never saw any posts by CCM stating she supports the entire industry as a whole. She is a program survivor with her own opinion, that's it. What gives you the right to attack CCM girl?
Dunno. What gives CCM girl the right to attack Niles with vulgar language and insults for NOT being in a program? She's an ideological bigot. A bitch, too.
Niles puts a ton of porn out there when she posts and he is the one with the mouth
I fail to see what that has to do with CCM girl's attacks on him for not being in a program. Are you sure he posted the porn? A steady stream of porn was issuing out of CCM girl's mouth before those gross pictures showed up.
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I also wonder why Zen Agent chooses to attack CCM girl when she has never said she supports the program that he was abused at.
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And I'm wondering why you idiots keep talking about attacks.
CCM girl offends a lot of posters, but she cries foul when anyone criticizes her? I mean, I do believe only words have been exchanged - quit playing up some poor victim status for CCM, she behaves like a Nazi whore on the rag and then hides behind her "program survivor" shield when she catches shit.
she's no victim, she's a verbally abusive, arrogant bitch with a big mouth.
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she's no victim
Then no survivor on this site is, so quit your whining.
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I also wonder why Zen Agent chooses to attack CCM girl when she has never said she supports the program that he was abused at.
::phone::
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I also wonder why Zen Agent chooses to attack CCM girl when she has never said she supports the program that he was abused at.
Good question. ZA was never in a program, so that explains why CCM girl hates him.
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I also wonder why Zen Agent chooses to attack CCM girl when she has never said she supports the program that he was abused at.
Good question. ZA was never in a program, so that explains why CCM girl hates him.
On a scale of 1-10, how much would you say she hates him?
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I also wonder why Zen Agent chooses to attack CCM girl when she has never said she supports the program that he was abused at.
Good question. ZA was never in a program, so that explains why CCM girl hates him.
On a scale of 1-10, how much would you say she hates him?
Zen wasnt in the program but his daughter was. I give him a lot of credit for all of the time he puts into this. I wish someone would be of help with this stuff to me and supportive of fighting the cause in my family like he does.
So lets squash the shit about Zen alrite? Hes done absolutely nothing wrong.
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I also wonder why Zen Agent chooses to attack CCM girl when she has never said she supports the program that he was abused at.
Good question. ZA was never in a program, so that explains why CCM girl hates him.
On a scale of 1-10, how much would you say she hates him?
Why don't you ask the crack whore herself? She's on the TTI thread "attacking" Psy at the moment.
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I also wonder why Zen Agent chooses to attack CCM girl when she has never said she supports the program that he was abused at.
Good question. ZA was never in a program, so that explains why CCM girl hates him.
On a scale of 1-10, how much would you say she hates him?
Why don't you ask the crack whore herself? She's on the TTI thread "attacking" Psy at the moment.
what a shocker!
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If CCM girl is a program survivor, I guess Miller Newton can call himself a program survivor as well. They both spout a load of deranged shit.
CCM girl has not started an abusive cult, such comparisons are misleading
Interesting. “Realâ€
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I've had psychiatrists and mental health practioners read your posts and it's quite frankly, chilling and telling about your entire puropse here on fornits.
Please don't tease us like this. Could you have an actual professional please post something on Fornits about their diagnosis of TheWho based on his writings, or give something concrete for you to post?
The Who is a paid representative of programs. We don’t need a shrink to help us understand him
ccm girl, on the other hand…sigh…people should discontinue using her for sexual frustration release, and she really, really, needs something better to do with her time.
Ccm girl, is that kid who you punch, and oops, you find out there’s more there then you bargained for. Someone coming back over and over to show they “can’t be controlled’. You be the judge. Is that healthy? My feeling is to just let her be. And, I don’t see her give any worse than she gets, so to my mind, she’s no bad guy.
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So it seems that its about time for thread about fornits "going down" to go down...let's bury it. It's time for it to die -- nothing constructive going on here. :skull:
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So it seems that its about time for thread about fornits "going down" to go down...let's bury it. It's time for it to die -- nothing constructive going on here. :skull:
huh?
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The thread, I meant....
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I would strongly consider eliminating the links to all the hate sites and groups that Niles posts (or ask him to do it), Like this one (http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=287218#287218) or this one. (http://http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Jew) Law firms are always looking for pro bono and community work (which could be part of what is going on) and nothing is more satisfying than shutting down (or pursuing) a group which supports hatred towards minorities like Blacks and anti-Semitic material like all the hatred towards Jews links that are posted here.
Trying to play it off as a satire merely teaches the younger readers that hatred is okay as long as you disseminate it as humor or hide behind a veil of ignorance. If I tolerated a person like Niles in any of our companies, even for a few hours, our company would be exposed to a major law suit. Fornits being an open forum on the internet gives you a broader freedom of individual expression, but a continued tolerance towards ignorance and hate (especially in full view of our young people) may not be healthy for the web site over time.
Just an opinion.
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You asshole. Did you have something to do with this? Maybe it's not Sue at all this time, maybe it's the Toxic Twins, CCM and Who. Who, you're a black-hearted sack of shit in league with the Horned One. I'm going to rattle your fucking cage for this. You're going to be publicly exposed, I'm sick of you. I'll post your name and phone number and you can deal with that for a while...
qft
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That's interesting, man. You recently said you didn't know anything about StrugglingTeens, now you sound like a vet and can remember who's been banned. I got banned...never was allowed back.
I remember because you cried like a school girl when you got caught lying to parents and misrepresenting yourself and they exposed you for it and banned you from posting there. Don’t play the victim. Struggling teens was set up for people to have an honest and open conversation about the industry… most parents, myself included, don’t appreciate your immature remarks like “How's that case of crotch rot your sister dosed you with?â€
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qft
Absolutely. That does mean "Quit fucking trolling", doesn't it? :wave:
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you mean "Sous Chef", right?
Unless I missed something, and their's a new chef from Switzerland that you were discussing, instead of a certain homonym.
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you mean "Sous Chef", right?
Unless I missed something, and their's a new chef from Switzerland that you were discussing, instead of a certain homonym.
You must really want a dick up your ass.
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could always be a misunderstanding or ignorance, but...
possibly someone working for Sue-Sue? First the 'thinking people hate blogs' thread and now this. someone's baiting someone?
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No one works for Sue-Sue, except her lawyers and Reputation Offender, and they only send laughable demand letters around.
Believe me, if you see a pro-Sue Scheffâ„¢ post on this board, Sue Scheffâ„¢ made it.
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possibly someone working for Sue-Sue? First the 'thinking people hate blogs' thread and now this. someone's baiting someone?
Could be your mom. ::haloslips:: ::nails:: ::poke::
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:rofl:
Naa.. my mom already posts on fornits, ha hah, but thx!
I was just trying to be kind.
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could always be a misunderstanding or ignorance, but...
possibly someone working for Sue-Sue? First the 'thinking people hate blogs' thread and now this. someone's baiting someone?
Thanks for the offer (first VFN), but I when I want dick, I put it where I want it.
And no, I'm not working for Sue-Sue, or baiting anyone.
"Suisse" is pronounced "Swiss". To anyone happening on "Suisse Chef", a certain Sesame Street character comes to mind. Hell, I've been around here for a while and couldn't figure out what the hell that post was about at first.
And yes, most old-timers hate blogs, and don't take them seriously. Yes, lately, they've been more accepted, but most people over the age of 30, looking for credible information avoid blogs since most of them are inane diaries or skewed opinions with no basis in fact.
See? This is my opinion. I really don't expect you to take it seriously.
But then again, I don't give a fuck.
- Seven
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Cheers
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Cheers
What? No "Bork bork bork"
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That's "spork, spork, spork" there, SevenVeils :rofl: :rofl:
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"Suisse" is pronounced "Swiss". To anyone happening on "Suisse Chef", a certain Sesame Street character comes to mind.
Certain Sesame characters come to my mind as well. In fact, they seem to be here right now!
:P
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