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« on: February 23, 2004, 09:42:00 AM »
All this stuff sounds just like a bunch of sour grapes. My sponsor did my girlfriend, boo hoo! You know what, I had a sponsor do the same thing one time and then found out he was the tail end of a long list of "friends" that had been doing her. Fired his ass and dumped the bitch and it was one of the best things that could have happened. Good riddence to a skanky bitch and shitty "friends!" To think that this only happens in AA/NA is fallacy though. The AA/NA crowd has no monopoly on this kind of behaviour. It is only because they all talk about each other to justify this kind of crap that it seems out of proportion.
On the other side of the coin, however, is that AA/NA has indeed helped a lot of people. For me, I find it hard to believe that some people can tell themselves they are doing quite well when they are busy sticking needles in their arms. I tend to think that is more survival than living.
Now, before you guys go ballistic, know this. I attended AA/NA for better than 16 years. I have been through all the books and pretty much know their program inside and out. I drink now and find no difficulty with is whatsoever. I think this way. I don't think the steps and such go far enough or that most ever REALLY work them. To me, the whole thing is about finding the issues that made you want to escape, correcting the damage when the pressure valve blew and making a remedy for the root causes of the entire event. Once done, the the person can go and live a normal life, including drinking, and have fun. It goes against the principles of all "The Steps" to say something can MAKE me behave in a manner that I do not wish. If I do not want to be a shithead no one can make me. Neither, if I want to be an ass, it cannot be stopped. Well I take that back, the law can throw me in jail, er, well no, I can be an ass there also....
Saying booze makes me behave a certain way is the same as my sponsor stating my girlfriends stuff is SOOOOO tempting it made his "disease" come out. Hell, there were two things comming out and neither of them are called disease. They can be diseased, but that is a different matter entirely. I also believe that making you arms a pin cushion is different. If God had meant for me to do that, I'd have been born with a stint.