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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Aspen Education Group => Topic started by: Troll Control on July 04, 2009, 11:10:47 AM
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Since you sold your Fornits account already, I guess I'll sell your true identity. "Who" wants it? Step right up and start the bidding.
Now, Who, I know you don't want this out there including all of the links to what you do for a living, etc (I know you love you some data, huh?), so I'll let you bid on it, too.
Shall we get the bidding started??
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$20.
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Whooter, it's accountability time. Where the heck are ya? For someone who loves accountability so much, you're not making much of an effort to take it for yourself, are you? :soapbox: :beat: :roflmao:
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Will the funds raised be directed toward a good cause?
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Any suggestions? I'm open to ideas. I like the thought of TheWho funding anti-program activities. Hell, if he's the highest bidder then he can say "don't publish my identity" and he can remain anymous. But not for free!
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I like the thought of TheWho funding anti-program activities.
I like that to.
$25
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I like the thought of TheWho funding anti-program activities.
I like that to.
$25
Brilliant guest for figuring out thewho's identity.
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I like the thought of TheWho funding anti-program activities.
I like that to.
$25
Brilliant guest for figuring out thewho's identity.
Thanks, Pete. Care to make an offer?
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I know my buddy Mike would be interested.
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I will up my $25 dollar bid to $25.32
and Donate a goat to www.WorldVision.org (http://www.WorldVision.org)
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Despite the fact that I generally would oppose this sort of thing, the truth is that Whooter has attempted to do this himself to others (myself included) on here on several occasions. So I'll make an exception in this case and go ahead and offer $30.00. How does it feel to get a taste of your own medicine Whootie? Stings a bit doesnt it?
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You know, I'm thinking now that maybe the right thing to do is just tell everyone TheWho's identity for free because many people would feel better knowing the identity of the person 'who' has hurt so many people here out of just plain venom for people 'who' don't view the world his way. He thinks everyone here is stupid and contemptible; objects to be played with to inflate his already coipous ego. Should I just give it away as an act of charity to all he hurt and degraded here? Of course you could all make charitable donations in the amount of your bids, which would have a multiplying effect on the total sum donated.
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Oh absolutely. Again, let's not forget how many people Whooter tried to do this to in public on the board. At the same time he cried incessantly about staff members at abusive facilities who posted information about themselves on a public forum having the information reposted. He deserves to be exposed. He claimed that we attacked staff members, yet laughed when he heard stories about staff members calling us at home, threatening us, threatening our families. He deserves this and I for one can't wait. Whatever the decsion is youve got my money.
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Whooter, it's accountability time. Where the heck are ya? For someone who loves accountability so much, you're not making much of an effort to take it for yourself, are you? :soapbox: :beat: :roflmao:
I'll donate my $20 bid to charity. I hope everyone else would as well. Accountability is important after all. Even if TheWho needs a little help with the concept.
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I'll donate my $20 bid to charity. I hope everyone else would as well. Accountability is important after all. Even if TheWho needs a little help with the concept.
Of course, I will. My cash bid to Fornits and,
http://www.WorldVision.org (http://www.WorldVision.org) will have goat milk for a family.
This is after all a very worthy cause. Any sleazy creature WHO says that it masturbates to survivor stories deserves to be called out. :poison:
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Might be time to think about moving Whooter.
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You can call him "Pete." Betcha he won't answer to it, though. :roflmao:
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You can call him "Pete." Betcha he won't answer to it, though. :roflmao:
Probably not, because my name is not "pete." :) I wondered a bit about that...
I take it you're the "pete" in question. Hopefully this guy's grip on the identity of thewho is a bit tighter than on ours. :cheers:
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You can call him "Pete." Betcha he won't answer to it, though. :roflmao:
Probably not, because my name is not "pete." :) I wondered a bit about that...
I take it you're the "pete" in question. Hopefully this guy's grip on the identity of thewho is a bit tighter than on ours. :cheers:
Oh, it is, Pete. You love analyzing data and so do I. Plus, you're sloppy and lazy, and I don't mean just here on Fornits, Pete. But I can't blame you for helping the family business, Petey. You try.
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You can call him "Pete." Betcha he won't answer to it, though. :roflmao:
Probably not, because my name is not "pete." :) I wondered a bit about that...
I take it you're the "pete" in question. Hopefully this guy's grip on the identity of thewho is a bit tighter than on ours. :cheers:
Oh, it is, Pete. You love analyzing data and so do I. Plus, you're sloppy and lazy, and I don't mean just here on Fornits, Pete. But I can't blame you for helping the family business, Petey. You try.
Well, not sure what you are talking about. But I am not "Pete."
:nods:
:fuckoff:
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TheWho is Pete.
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Whooter, it's accountability time. Where the heck are ya? For someone who loves accountability so much, you're not making much of an effort to take it for yourself, are you? :soapbox: :beat: :roflmao:
I'll donate my $20 bid to charity. I hope everyone else would as well. Accountability is important after all. Even if TheWho needs a little help with the concept.
Need some help, do ya, Pete? When you get home all tipsy from the BBQ you're going to get MAD! And then the drunken keyboard jockeying will really kick off.
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I sure do love twittering about Albert Einstein.
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Coming soon... "TheWho, Revealed"...
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Peter? Peeeeeee-terrrrrrrr??? I think someone is having a case of the "panics."
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Hey, Robert, is your real first name "Peter"? If not, then we can rule you out as TheWho.
Are you 60 years old? If not, then we can rule you out as TheWho.
Are you a veteran? If not, then we can rule you out as TheWho.
Yes, folks, TheWho is a 60 year old veteran of the armed forces and he gets his kicks by trying to exploit familes with 'troubled teens' and degrading abuse survivors all day every day. Very honorable, Who. You do your country proud by bickering with an abuse victim and trying to 'out' his treatment plan. Not.
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Ha, ha, ha.
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When will the bidding be closed? Has it made a counter offer yet?
Will the bidders collectively share ownership this troll and its information? They could give it a daily quota of amends to make; in order for it to earn maintenance of their discretion.
If not will this play out like a slow reveal or will the identity of its corporeal form just be announced?
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I'm not sure yet. I think rather than auctioning it. I'd rather just give it away so people here can at least identify by name the guy who has tormented them here for years. I've been giving som ket facts about him and maybe someone that's good at putting the pieces together can figure it out.
So far, 60 years old, Army vet, two sons, one went to ASR very early in its existence (graduated under Rudy Bentz) and loves data analysis about direct marketing.
Yes he made up the story about having a daughter at ASR. It was a son who allegedly comitted suicide after estranging himself from Whooter.
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Sorry, correction to above, TheWho's son graduated in 2004, one year after Rudy left, but he spent four full years at ASR, a rarity.
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I'm not sure yet. I think rather than auctioning it. I'd rather just give it away so people here can at least identify by name the guy who has tormented them here for years. I've been giving som ket facts about him and maybe someone that's good at putting the pieces together can figure it out.
So far, 60 years old, Army vet, two sons, one went to ASR very early in its existence (graduated under Rudy Bentz) and loves data analysis about direct marketing.
Yes he made up the story about having a daughter at ASR. It was a son who allegedly comitted suicide after estranging himself from Whooter.
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
May be you should ask Elvis, because your not even in the right forest yet.
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Maybe you should ignore this fucking troll and focus on putting Aspen out of business?
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The OP, "my two sons" just took off? He hasnt responded to any of the other posters, just started the thread and left. What the fuck? Who is running this?
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Despite the fact that I generally would oppose this sort of thing, the truth is that Whooter has attempted to do this himself to others (myself included) on here on several occasions. So I'll make an exception in this case and go ahead and offer $30.00. How does it feel to get a taste of your own medicine Whootie? Stings a bit doesnt it?
Geesh, Bruce again? Remember the last time he bid? It was for whooters account and when he won he backed down and Ursus ended up paying for Bruces bid. I wouldnt take the $30 seriously. He is just pissed off that TheWho held him accountable for his posts (once again). Bruce finally went back and edited it instead of explaining himself or sticking by his words. You got to be loving this shit..... go with the bid prior to Bruces just to be safe or Bruce may go back and edit out the $30 bid to make it $10 (Wouldnt be the first time).
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Despite the fact that I generally would oppose this sort of thing, the truth is that Whooter has attempted to do this himself to others (myself included) on here on several occasions. So I'll make an exception in this case and go ahead and offer $30.00. How does it feel to get a taste of your own medicine Whootie? Stings a bit doesnt it?
Geesh, Bruce again? Remember the last time he bid? It was for whooters account and when he won he backed down and Ursus ended up paying for Bruces bid. I wouldnt take the $30 seriously. He is just pissed off that TheWho held him accountable for his posts (once again). Bruce finally went back and edited it instead of explaining himself or sticking by his words. You got to be loving this shit..... go with the bid prior to Bruces just to be safe or Bruce may go back and edit out the $30 bid to make it $10 (Wouldnt be the first time).
"John C." is "Peter D."
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Yes, TheWho has something to do with the letters "PHD" but he's no doctor. So, Pete, how's Ellen? Does she have any idea how much time you spend here? What about the time you spend posting from work? Aren't you worried about keeping the fidelity of their network intact?
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Last post is mine.
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Since you sold your Fornits account already, I guess I'll sell your true identity. "Who" wants it? Step right up and start the bidding.
Now, Who, I know you don't want this out there including all of the links to what you do for a living, etc (I know you love you some data, huh?), so I'll let you bid on it, too.
Shall we get the bidding started??
I’ll dance the dance of the seven veils.
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Geesh, Bruce again? Remember the last time he bid? It was for whooters account and when he won he backed down and Ursus ended up paying for Bruces bid. I wouldnt take the $30 seriously. He is just pissed off that TheWho held him accountable for his posts (once again). Bruce finally went back and edited it instead of explaining himself or sticking by his words. You got to be loving this shit..... go with the bid prior to Bruces just to be safe or Bruce may go back and edit out the $30 bid to make it $10 (Wouldnt be the first time).
When was it Whootie ever held me or anyone else accountable? How could he since he never accepted respondsibility himself? If you're still too dumb to understand my earlier posts, please ask, and I'll be glad to explain it.....again. In the mean time if you'd like to talk about not being accountable we can bring up all the posts youve gone back and edited and then pretended you were the victim of some vast conspiracy. Or the numerous questions you left unanswered. Or perhaps the times you attempted to lay the blame of your posts on others.
As to the bidding last fall, I had a request that could not be garrunteed. Everyone else seemed to understand that and people moved on. In truth though, you're right, I will retract my bid for the information. That's of course because I already have it.
Let's play a game everyone. It's called fill in the blank.
The show was over and ______ with.
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Lols. I am not RobertBruce. But if "Brucie" knows now, then 'Who' knows what could happen? That makes at least three to put it together. Very nice.
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Maybe you should ignore this fucking troll and focus on putting Aspen out of business?
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When was it Whootie ever held me or anyone else accountable?
Sting!!! Ha,Ha,Ha,
Oh, not too long ago, I would say...... It just wont go away, will it Brucie!!!
RobertBruce wrote:
I guess there isnt much point in hiding it. TheWho and I are one and the same. I created the character a few years ago as a means of serving as a lightining rod for programmies. I'd been posting on here for about 2.5 years when I came up with the idea. I wanted to give all the anti-program posters an opportunity to showcase everything that's sick and wrong with this industry. What better way to do that then to actually have someone who was so clearly brainwashed, and believed in this nonsense so ardently that nothing could disuade him from the truth. An absolute moron who couldnt recognize the truth even when it was staring him straight in the face, or just wouldn't. A complete jackass who could never stand to acknowledge when wrong, and he always is. Before you get too upset with me think about what my creating thewho has done for us. Under his guise I would repeatedly make ridiculus claims, or refute obvious facts, only to then turn around and have the proof provided. Remember my numbers concerning the deaths occuring in these places? How I refused to add multitudes of kids who had been murdered, thus drawing more attention to the ones who had. How many more names did the rest of you post on here in an effot to prove "me" wrong? Or how I as thewho kept declaring these places "safe" despite the fact that he refused to include abuse. Remember when I had him claim 60 kids a week were being killed in public schools? Making nonsensical claims about public schools that had no bearing in reality. All the times I had him dismiss or ridicule kids who were abused. I am sorry for that, it was difficult, I know everyone of you was truly abused, and tortured. I wasn't exaggerating by any means when I mentioned how many parents pm'd me as RobertBruce thanking me for shutting thewho up. At the same time I can't tell you how many programmies, and child abuse advocates pm'd me as thewho, giving me pointers, telling me what they believed was inside information on us, and giving me inside information on themselves, believing it was all in confidence. CCM Girl, Function Junction, Anne, the list goes on and on, sorry kids your secrets were very much put to good use. In truth thewho is based on a real person, and he really is as much of a stupid jackass as I made him out to be. In any event I hope you all understand my motivations, it was never to trick anyone, and I'm sorry if I offended any of you. My feelings against these kiddie prisons is that they are all just that, and they serve no good for anyone but greedy child abusers.
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How does that relate to Mike killing himself, Pete?
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As to the bidding last fall, I had a request that could not be garrunteed. Everyone else seemed to understand that and people moved on. In truth though, you're right, I will retract my bid for the information. That's of course because I already have it.
You retracted your bid because you wanted the contents of Whooter's PM box left intact. Since he still owned his account that could not be guaranteed, and rightfully so.
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How does that relate to Mike killing himself, Pete?
Again, my question, Pete.
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"Buddy Dave Sampson told me about this site about a year ago, but just recently took a look. Nice work! "
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As to the bidding last fall, I had a request that could not be garrunteed. Everyone else seemed to understand that and people moved on. In truth though, you're right, I will retract my bid for the information. That's of course because I already have it.
You retracted your bid because you wanted the contents of Whooter's PM box left intact. Since he still owned his account that could not be guaranteed, and rightfully so.
Answering your own post isnt going to make it any more believable.
The way it went down is.. Bruce had the highest bid for a few days and then when the hammer was coming down "Going Once... Going Twice...." and just before sold. Bruce said he wanted to add a condition ( something he knew could not be fulfilled so he could avoid payment)... Then Ursus stepped in and paid RobertBruces bill for him.
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"Buddy Dave Sampson told me about this site about a year ago, but just recently took a look. Nice work! "
HOT OR COLD?
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Hot. :notworthy:
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As to the bidding last fall, I had a request that could not be garrunteed. Everyone else seemed to understand that and people moved on. In truth though, you're right, I will retract my bid for the information. That's of course because I already have it.
You retracted your bid because you wanted the contents of Whooter's PM box left intact. Since he still owned his account that could not be guaranteed, and rightfully so.
Answering your own post isnt going to make it any more believable.
The way it went down is.. Bruce had the highest bid for a few days and then when the hammer was coming down "Going Once... Going Twice...." and just before sold. Bruce said he wanted to add a condition ( something he knew could not be fulfilled so he could avoid payment)... Then Ursus stepped in and paid RobertBruces bill for him.
Right, but it went back to "Going Once... Going Twice...." for a few days after that. RobertBruce could have rebid, but did not. Nobody else bid. It wasn't RobertBruce's bill any more than it was some bidders' bill. Ursus paid his own bill.
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"Buddy Dave Sampson told me about this site about a year ago, but just recently took a look. Nice work! "
HOT OR COLD?
Hot. :notworthy:
WOO-WHOOOO!!!!
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"Buddy Dave Sampson told me about this site about a year ago, but just recently took a look. Nice work! "
HOT OR COLD?
Hot. :notworthy:
WOO-WHOOOO!!!!
Someone really wants to change the topic of this thread, huh, Revenge? Notice how it starts its own dialog and quotes itself over and over? it wants this topic changed, pronto.
Where's Don't Call Me Chris;My name Is Elvis at? He has some more to add.
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Right, but it went back to "Going Once... Going Twice...." for a few days after that. RobertBruce could have rebid, but did not. Nobody else bid. It wasn't RobertBruce's bill any more than it was some bidders' bill. Ursus paid his own bill.
So we agree you backed out..... If you were bidding for a vase at Sotheby’s and you out bid everyone and then at the final moment you stood up and said "Under one condition that my wife will like it!!!"... which of course would be denied.
You bid and reneged, just making it clear, dont try to clean yourself up with misleading posts, Devon.
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"Buddy Dave Sampson told me about this site about a year ago, but just recently took a look. Nice work! "
HOT OR COLD?
Hot. :notworthy:
WOO-WHOOOO!!!!
Someone really wants to change the topic of this thread, huh, Revenge? Notice how it starts its own dialog and quotes itself over and over? it wants this topic changed, pronto.
Where's Don't Call Me Chris;My name Is Elvis at? He has some more to add.
Are you sure thewho is Peter D?
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"Buddy Dave Sampson told me about this site about a year ago, but just recently took a look. Nice work! "
HOT OR COLD?
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: NORTH POLE, I'm afraid. That's just a regular program parent. You're trolling for fish of the wrong size there, hound dog! Whootie may as well continue his 4th of July celebrations!
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Oh, not too long ago, I would say...... It just wont go away, will it Brucie!!!
I sincerly hope not Petey, you're the only one too stupid to understand that the joke's on you.
So back to the unanswered question about Mike's apparent suicide. Also how's Matt doing with all this?
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Me too.
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Aw, don’t worry. Someone will be along to explain it at some point. Maybe RFG will?
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Oh, not too long ago, I would say...... It just wont go away, will it Brucie!!!
I sincerly hope not Petey, you're the only one too stupid to understand that the joke's on you.
So back to the unanswered question about Mike's apparent suicide. Also how's Matt doing with all this?
That has always been your "Tell" Brucie. When you start to get pissed off or lose yet another argument you start name calling. Just want to make it clear....You cannot bury your posts... you can try but they will always be there to haunt you... Sting!!!!! Still smarts a little I guess?
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Not at all. Post it as much as you like. I've explained this to you. The joke was on you. Everyone else got it but you Peter D. I call you names because I'm an honest person. You still need to learn to accept the fact that I dont play the same games you do. When I insult you or make comments about my own postings, I make sure everyone knows its me. You might want to work on that acceptance in your next group session.
Now back to the question about Mike killing himself and how Matt and Eileen are handling it.
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Who is this Eileen to WHO?
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Not at all. Post it as much as you like. I've explained this to you. The joke was on you. Everyone else got it but you Peter D. I call you names because I'm an honest person. You still need to learn to accept the fact that I dont play the same games you do. When I insult you or make comments about my own postings, I make sure everyone knows its me. You might want to work on that acceptance in your next group session.
Now back to the question about Mike killing himself and how Matt and Eileen are handling it.
Thats better, Devon, see you posted without name calling. Means you have calmed down a little. I only mean to bother you when you become dishonest or try to edit your posts and try to clean yourself up by blaming others. Otherwise I will leave you alone.
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Psst, I think it's trying to negotiate
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Psst, I think it's trying to negotiate
Calling another human being "it" shows how much youre still stuck in program. Nice going. Your doing a lot for kids' rights alright.
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Petey, Petey, Petey. I've told you this I dont know how many times, you don't bother me, I find you to be hysterical. The way you make some ridiculus claim, refuse to back it up, and then run back to try and edit your posts. Priceless. Youre just upset because you aren't able to pin your posts onto me. I mean you claim I edit my posts as a means of "cleaning up", is that better than you constantly editing your posts as a means of covering up. You're the coward here Peter D. don't forget that. The only one afraid of the truth here is you.
Either way I dont want you to leave me alone Peter, everytime you run your mouth it gives us another reason why parents should avoid placing their kids in these child abusing programs you so ardently advocate for.
As to name calling, Petey I've told you I call it like I see it. When you showcase your idiocy or play your bullshit games, when you act like the coward you are I feel compelled to hold you accountable. I know you hate that but I'm not going to stop. Stings doesnt it?
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Psst, I think it's trying to negotiate
Calling another human being "it" shows how much youre still stuck in program. Nice going. Your doing a lot for kids' rights alright.
Thanks for that. I gave your comment some due consideration and decided; my criterion for who I define as human still does not include something like WHO. BTW IT has done a lot to recovering program kids that shows ITS lack of humanity.
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Petey, Petey, Petey. I've told you this I dont know how many times, you don't bother me, I find you to be hysterical. The way you make some ridiculus claim, refuse to back it up, and then run back to try and edit your posts. Priceless. Youre just upset because you aren't able to pin your posts onto me. I mean you claim I edit my posts as a means of "cleaning up", is that better than you constantly editing your posts as a means of covering up. You're the coward here Peter D. don't forget that. The only one afraid of the truth here is you.
Either way I dont want you to leave me alone Peter, everytime you run your mouth it gives us another reason why parents should avoid placing their kids in these child abusing programs you so ardently advocate for.
As to name calling, Petey I've told you I call it like I see it. When you showcase your idiocy or play your bullshit games, when you act like the coward you are I feel compelled to hold you accountable. I know you hate that but I'm not going to stop. Stings doesnt it?
Whoops, here comes the name calling again. Sorry that I upset you so much Brucie. But those posts are not going to go away. You see I copied them before you went back to edit them. Dont get upset, now, if the name calling helps you get past it then go ahead we can handle it. But as far as the posts you made...you will have to face them over and over again. Sting !!!! smarts, Just a tad?
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Hot or cold?
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Whoops, here comes the name calling again. Sorry that I upset you so much Brucie. But those posts are not going to go away. You see I copied them before you went back to edit them. Dont get upset, now, if the name calling helps you get past it then go ahead we can handle it. But as far as the posts you made...you will have to face them over and over again. Sting !!!! smarts, Just a tad?
Not in the slightest. You're still the only one who tries to avoid the truth here Peter, because you're the coward. Ask any questions you like about my posts, I'll be glad to answer them. Before you do though get on this:
How did Matt and Eileen take Mike's suicide?
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Who is this Eileen to WHO?
Eileen is nobody. Ellen is its wife. It likes Long Island girls.
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Hey, Elvis, is TheWho a scientologist??
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ive been out of asr for a few months now but it honestly still bothers me. it fucked up high school so bad for me. all my friends are applying to college and i have no aps, no extra cirriculars. i never did drugs before i got sent there, i just skipped school. being escorted fucked up the trust with my parents so bad. i still cant believe they did that to me. i understand they were scared but they dont know what it was like spending a year there. when i try to think about it it doesn't even feell like part of my life, it feels so surreal. i cant believe it happened. its easier for me to pretend that a year of my life just vanished because i just dont understand how that could have happened to me. they wasted so much money on it and now i'm starting at a new school for the third time in three years and no one understands how hard it is to adjust. i've gotten no help from asr, even though we paid the 90,000 for a full year there, just because i got pulled instead of graduated. its so hard to explain what its like there.it still scares me. i've had dreams about bitching out the staff there. i just feel literally like part of my life disappeared. like i never get to be a real teenager because halfway through it i was basically imprisoned. this isn't fair.
it makes me so sad to think about because it feels like such a waste. thats my time that i'm never getting back. its such a waste i regret it so much and i didn't even get to make that choice for myself. i didn't even know about it until the night i left. it feels like life-rape like someone took my life and raped it up the asshole. who the fuck would do that to me its so ridiculously not fair. that school is a liar. they took my money and my time so i cant get into or afford college anymore. i mean shit this is my life, its not some fucking game for crc to make money off of. they fucking employed alcoholics, potheads, some crazy bitch who fucked students & bought them alcohol, redneck who beat the kids in dorms. they over medicated us, prescribed us shit thats stronger than a lot of what kids were doing before they got sent away. kids never even met with a doctor, they were prescribed by someone who wasn't even qualified. no confidentiality, bullshit therapy, random dorm searches, harassment. where the fuck is there right pull that shit on us.
kids snorted pills, drank hand sanitizer, were desperate to get out of there. all phonecalls, letters, emails, when they were allowed, were monitered.
no certification for the therapy, underqualified teachers.
they fucking lied. they took our money and our lives and lied to us and left a lot of us worse off than we were before.
treatment shouldn't traumatize. i'm going to have to live with this for the rest of my life when i didn't fucking do shit more than any normal teenager does and i dont deserve this shit. it isn't fair.it isn't fair this fucking bullshit waste of time` program has to be a part of my life now. i dont want to live withh this i dont want it to be a part ofme i jsut want it all to go away. this shouldn't be my life.
Ask TheWho how his son escaped having to "live with this" problem.
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Is thewho Peter Dunbar?
Is there a photo?
telepohone #?
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Is thewho Peter Dunbar?
Is there a photo?
telepohone #?
Ding, Ding, Ding! Give this poster a prize!
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ive been out of asr for a few months now but it honestly still bothers me. it fucked up high school so bad for me. all my friends are applying to college and i have no aps, no extra cirriculars. i never did drugs before i got sent there, i just skipped school. being escorted fucked up the trust with my parents so bad. i still cant believe they did that to me. i understand they were scared but they dont know what it was like spending a year there. when i try to think about it it doesn't even feell like part of my life, it feels so surreal. i cant believe it happened. its easier for me to pretend that a year of my life just vanished because i just dont understand how that could have happened to me. they wasted so much money on it and now i'm starting at a new school for the third time in three years and no one understands how hard it is to adjust. i've gotten no help from asr, even though we paid the 90,000 for a full year there, just because i got pulled instead of graduated. its so hard to explain what its like there.it still scares me. i've had dreams about bitching out the staff there. i just feel literally like part of my life disappeared. like i never get to be a real teenager because halfway through it i was basically imprisoned. this isn't fair.
it makes me so sad to think about because it feels like such a waste. thats my time that i'm never getting back. its such a waste i regret it so much and i didn't even get to make that choice for myself. i didn't even know about it until the night i left. it feels like life-rape like someone took my life and raped it up the asshole. who the fuck would do that to me its so ridiculously not fair. that school is a liar. they took my money and my time so i cant get into or afford college anymore. i mean shit this is my life, its not some fucking game for crc to make money off of. they fucking employed alcoholics, potheads, some crazy bitch who fucked students & bought them alcohol, redneck who beat the kids in dorms. they over medicated us, prescribed us shit thats stronger than a lot of what kids were doing before they got sent away. kids never even met with a doctor, they were prescribed by someone who wasn't even qualified. no confidentiality, bullshit therapy, random dorm searches, harassment. where the fuck is there right pull that shit on us.
kids snorted pills, drank hand sanitizer, were desperate to get out of there. all phonecalls, letters, emails, when they were allowed, were monitered.
no certification for the therapy, underqualified teachers.
they fucking lied. they took our money and our lives and lied to us and left a lot of us worse off than we were before.
treatment shouldn't traumatize. i'm going to have to live with this for the rest of my life when i didn't fucking do shit more than any normal teenager does and i dont deserve this shit. it isn't fair.it isn't fair this fucking bullshit waste of time` program has to be a part of my life now. i dont want to live withh this i dont want it to be a part ofme i jsut want it all to go away. this shouldn't be my life.
Ask TheWho how his son escaped having to "live with this" problem.
After speaking with the judges we feel we cannot even give you a point for effort.... ASR doesnt accept escorts... too bad 0/10...low level troll.
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ive been out of asr for a few months now but it honestly still bothers me. it fucked up high school so bad for me. all my friends are applying to college and i have no aps, no extra cirriculars. i never did drugs before i got sent there, i just skipped school. being escorted fucked up the trust with my parents so bad. i still cant believe they did that to me. i understand they were scared but they dont know what it was like spending a year there. when i try to think about it it doesn't even feell like part of my life, it feels so surreal. i cant believe it happened. its easier for me to pretend that a year of my life just vanished because i just dont understand how that could have happened to me. they wasted so much money on it and now i'm starting at a new school for the third time in three years and no one understands how hard it is to adjust. i've gotten no help from asr, even though we paid the 90,000 for a full year there, just because i got pulled instead of graduated. its so hard to explain what its like there.it still scares me. i've had dreams about bitching out the staff there. i just feel literally like part of my life disappeared. like i never get to be a real teenager because halfway through it i was basically imprisoned. this isn't fair.
it makes me so sad to think about because it feels like such a waste. thats my time that i'm never getting back. its such a waste i regret it so much and i didn't even get to make that choice for myself. i didn't even know about it until the night i left. it feels like life-rape like someone took my life and raped it up the asshole. who the fuck would do that to me its so ridiculously not fair. that school is a liar. they took my money and my time so i cant get into or afford college anymore. i mean shit this is my life, its not some fucking game for crc to make money off of. they fucking employed alcoholics, potheads, some crazy bitch who fucked students & bought them alcohol, redneck who beat the kids in dorms. they over medicated us, prescribed us shit thats stronger than a lot of what kids were doing before they got sent away. kids never even met with a doctor, they were prescribed by someone who wasn't even qualified. no confidentiality, bullshit therapy, random dorm searches, harassment. where the fuck is there right pull that shit on us.
kids snorted pills, drank hand sanitizer, were desperate to get out of there. all phonecalls, letters, emails, when they were allowed, were monitered.
no certification for the therapy, underqualified teachers.
they fucking lied. they took our money and our lives and lied to us and left a lot of us worse off than we were before.
treatment shouldn't traumatize. i'm going to have to live with this for the rest of my life when i didn't fucking do shit more than any normal teenager does and i dont deserve this shit. it isn't fair.it isn't fair this fucking bullshit waste of time` program has to be a part of my life now. i dont want to live withh this i dont want it to be a part ofme i jsut want it all to go away. this shouldn't be my life.
Ask TheWho how his son escaped having to "live with this" problem.
After speaking with the judges we feel we cannot even give you a point for effort.... ASR doesnt accept escorts... too bad 0/10...low level troll.
ASR does accept detainees who arrive through abduction. Then it imprisons them afterwards. Thwho appears unchastened by his brush with piblic exposure. Just post his name and digits and be done with it.
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After speaking with the judges we feel we cannot even give you a point for effort.... ASR doesnt accept escorts... too bad 0/10...low level troll.
So YOU say, about "official" policy. Are you familiar with each and every case? I know for a fact that you are not.
Thwho appears unchastened by his brush with piblic exposure. Just post his name and digits and be done with it.
They don't have them. The "Hounds of Fornitsville" are still barking up the wrong tree.
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ASR does accept detainees who arrive through abduction. Then it imprisons them afterwards. Thwho appears unchastened by his brush with piblic exposure. Just post his name and digits and be done with it.
You must be new here, troll. Stating that ASR accepts kids via escorts supports the reasoning that the information here isnt accurate. Parents will read here that ASR accepts escorts and then when they find out first hand that they do not then then they will realize that the other information posted here about the industry is probably fabricated also and get a better sense of releif that their child will be safe there. They have qualified therapists and certified teachers... the kid who posted that admits he got kicked out and is now trying to blame ASR because he cant get into college. A college isnt going to accept "any" kid who gets kicked out of highschool and doesnt finish... not the schools fault bro. Some kids are just destined for McJobs no matter how much money the parents have.
Advice: Double check all the information you read (here and other places) before you embrace it as the truth.
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Is thewho Peter Dunbar?
Is there a photo?
telepohone #?
Ding, Ding, Ding! Give this poster a prize!
Wrong tree? I don't think so.
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ASR does accept detainees who arrive through abduction. Then it imprisons them afterwards. Thwho appears unchastened by his brush with piblic exposure. Just post his name and digits and be done with it.
You must be new here, troll. Stating that ASR accepts kids via escorts supports the reasoning that the information here isnt accurate. Parents will read here that ASR accepts escorts and then when they find out first hand that they do not then then they will realize that the other information posted here about the industry is probably fabricated also and get a better sense of releif that their child will be safe there. They have qualified therapists and certified teachers... the kid who posted that admits he got kicked out and is now trying to blame ASR because he cant get into college. A college isnt going to accept "any" kid who gets kicked out of highschool and doesnt finish... not the schools fault bro. Some kids are just destined for McJobs no matter how much money the parents have.
Advice: Double check all the information you read (here and other places) before you embrace it as the truth.
God, you're so sick, who.
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TheWho admits being viewed in his private life as a sociopath and narcissist. Classic. (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11926&p=135721#p135721) BTW, this was when he was still posting anon before his posts were linked up.
Anyone notice that Whooter has an affinity for football references and calling people gay?
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TheWho admits being viewed in his private life as a sociopath and narcissist. Classic. (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11926&p=135721#p135721) BTW, this was when he was still posting anon before his posts were linked up.
Anyone notice that Whooter has an affinity for football references and calling people gay?
Bruce, there you go again!! You seem obsessed with non-heterosexual activity and comments. Whats up with that? Have you talked with your wife about this?
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TheWho admits being viewed in his private life as a sociopath and narcissist. Classic. (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11926&p=135721#p135721) BTW, this was when he was still posting anon before his posts were linked up.
Anyone notice that Whooter has an affinity for football references and calling people gay?
Yeah, I did. Must be something in the name 'TheWho'...
Fags n football, that's Whooter's kind of stuff! (http://http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showthread.php?p=3492788#post3492788)
"Who"s don't like facts either:
Called out on a HS football message board for "no facts" (http://http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showthread.php?p=3133661#post3133661)
Must be something in the name...
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This post sequence is a little dyslexic, but accurate none the less.
Play to win.
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How 'bout 978468469101982??
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How 'bout 978468469101982??
Actually if you stare at it for a few minutes you get:
"910198297846846" This makes more sense.
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Guest 1. On fire
Guest 2. Frigid
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After speaking with the judges we feel we cannot even give you a point for effort.... ASR doesnt accept escorts... too bad 0/10...low level troll.
If they don't now, perhaps they did when that person was placed in the program. That being said, it's a simple fake-parent test to find out if your claim is accurate. Perhaps somebody on this thread can do that instead of arguing with guests. Hard evidence speaks a lot more than "yes they do", "no they don't" and so forth.
Geez. If even a tenth of the time that was spent fighting with guests who may or may not be the who....
::deadhorse:: <-- not productive. Get off your asses and do something!
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Guest 1. On fire
Guest 2. Frigid
Better?
9784684691 01982
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Guest 1. On fire
Guest 2. Frigid
Better?
9784684691 01982
damit, I like that. Thank you.
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So far I agree with you, where we part a little is when you mention 14+ have died in 2000 and how many of these would have lived if they remained home and that the number is too high. I agree but we will never know. How many of the graduates who lived would have died if not for the, as you call it "'therapeutic' bubble"? Are the kids entering these schools at a higher risk of harming themselves then your average high school student? Less risky? We dont know. So how does one approach this?
If one child dies do we shut every school down?
2 die, 3? and what do we base our decisions on? If parents pay 70k they should expect 0 deaths, but the ones who are there on state money can accept a couple of deaths, that I dont buy. I dont think the money is a factor, who cares what it costs, the schools dont set the price the parents do. They charge exactly what the parents are willing to pay and not a penny less, the same as anything else in America, milk, gas, weed. The prices are set by the people, they stop buying and the price goes down.
Over time the data will speak for itself, even if it has flaws and people are not being honest. Once you start comparing the results to previous years and other institutions the problem areas stick out and you go after them
I guess one death isn't enough for TheWho, even one of his own.
He sure loves some data though. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/peter/dunbar (http://http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/peter/dunbar). No wonder he thinks you can't rely on first-hand accounts. You have to have the DATA!
He likes to talk about business a lot, too. He fancies himself a businessman, but he never completed business school either :waaaa: TheWho is a quitter student and a quitter parent, but he'll never quit Fornits.
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Ahhhh....This explains his need to post the "data matrix". (http://http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pete-dunbar/9/ba/835)
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He sure loves some data though. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/peter/dunbar (http://http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/peter/dunbar). No wonder he thinks you can't rely on first-hand accounts. You have to have the DATA!
He likes to talk about business a lot, too. He fancies himself a businessman, but he never completed business school either :waaaa: TheWho is a quitter student and a quitter parent, but he'll never quit Fornits.
HASTE is never an excuse for posting links which contradict your claims.
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So far I agree with you, where we part a little is when you mention 14+ have died in 2000 and how many of these would have lived if they remained home and that the number is too high. I agree but we will never know. How many of the graduates who lived would have died if not for the, as you call it "'therapeutic' bubble"? Are the kids entering these schools at a higher risk of harming themselves then your average high school student? Less risky? We dont know. So how does one approach this?
If one child dies do we shut every school down?
2 die, 3? and what do we base our decisions on?
You make a good point, although, we shouldnt just focus on the numbers alone. The safety of the children in general should be looked at, not just individual deaths.
If parents pay 70k they should expect 0 deaths, but the ones who are there on state money can accept a couple of deaths, that I dont buy.
I dont either. It shouldnt matter if the child is there on a free ride, private money or if the parents are paying for it.
I dont think the money is a factor, who cares what it costs, the schools dont set the price the parents do. They charge exactly what the parents are willing to pay and not a penny less, the same as anything else in America, milk, gas, weed. The prices are set by the people, they stop buying and the price goes down.
Exactly. So if the parents stop sending kids there the price will go down and eventually they wont be able to meet expenses and they will fold.
Over time the data will speak for itself, even if it has flaws and people are not being honest. Once you start comparing the results to previous years and other institutions the problem areas stick out and you go after them
I guess I see what you are saying.
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Are we sure thewho is Peter Dunbar
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pete-dunbar/9/ba/835 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pete-dunbar/9/ba/835)
I have to admit, the profile fits. Ursus said he worked in marketing. But thewho is so stupid, and childish, and nasty...It's hard to reconcile his conduct with an educated adult.
Can we make sure this I.D. is solid? And, again, good work, guest. Yes, he is just a "troll," but I'm pretty sure he is a "connected" troll.
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Are we sure thewho is Peter Dunbar
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pete-dunbar/9/ba/835 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pete-dunbar/9/ba/835)
I have to admit, the profile fits. Ursus said he worked in marketing. But thewho is so stupid, and childish, and nasty...It's hard to reconcile his conduct with an educated adult.
Can we make sure this I.D. is solid? And, again, good work, guest. Yes, he is just a "troll," but I'm pretty sure he is a "connected" troll.
Connected? Do a search on "Don Dunbar" and see what you hit. :jawdrop:
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Are we sure thewho is Peter Dunbar
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pete-dunbar/9/ba/835 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pete-dunbar/9/ba/835)
I have to admit, the profile fits. Ursus said he worked in marketing. But thewho is so stupid, and childish, and nasty...It's hard to reconcile his conduct with an educated adult.
Can we make sure this I.D. is solid? And, again, good work, guest. Yes, he is just a "troll," but I'm pretty sure he is a "connected" troll.
You'd be amazed at what people will do and say when cock-sure of their anonymity. Ottawa5, aka Anne Hall, is a fucking psychologist for chrissakes. Karenindallas is an attorney/i]. Education has nothing to do with it. It's a willingness to hurt and abuse as long as secrecy of identity is maintained. They all sing a different tune when you put 'em out there.
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Are we sure thewho is Peter Dunbar
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pete-dunbar/9/ba/835 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pete-dunbar/9/ba/835)
I have to admit, the profile fits. Ursus said he worked in marketing. But thewho is so stupid, and childish, and nasty...It's hard to reconcile his conduct with an educated adult.
Can we make sure this I.D. is solid? And, again, good work, guest. Yes, he is just a "troll," but I'm pretty sure he is a "connected" troll.
Connected? Do a search on "Don Dunbar" and see what you hit. :jawdrop:
Donald M. Dunbar
Donald Dunbar founded Dunbar Educational Consultants in 1984. His career in education spans more than 30 years, having served as teacher, chaplain, coach, guidance counselor and admissions consultant at a number of schools, including St. Paul’s School in New Hampshire, Institut Le Rosey in Switzerland, Brent School in the Philippines, the Weston, Massachusetts public schools and Phillips Academy, Andover in Massachusetts.
Don earned his Bachelor’s Degree from Colby College and Master’s Degrees in Literature from Wesleyan University, Theology from the Episcopal Divinity School at Harvard and Education from Boston College.
http://http://www.dunbarconsultants.com/team/teambios.html#dunbar
Any relation?
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Since "Dunbar" is such an unusual name, I think we should post specs on everyone with that last name in all of New England. And if he's not in that group, let's post details on everyone with the first name of Peter, or Don, or Michael... hey, even Dunbar as a first name, maybe that crafty Who did something sneaky with his name!
::)
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This forum is a place where survivors of treatment abuses and activists that endeavor to prevent future harms convene.
WHO does nothing but belittle that. It does so exploiting the anonymity of the “guest” option.
There was a specific retort aimed at a survivor reaching out to inform others by sharing her story. The moment that creature responded to her by saying “Nobody cares…I masturbate to these stories”, it in my opinion ought to have been banned.
The lurking presence of WHO has been to taunt, to try to intimidate survivors and disseminate disinformation.
I wish its posts would be linked up so that it is readily identifiable (and therefore easily dismissed).
Otherwise, why not tell WHO it will be banned if it does not post all future missives from an account bearing its name with REAL photo for avatar?
Neither of these options are censorship.
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This forum is a place where survivors of treatment abuses and activists that endeavor to prevent future harms convene.
Nope, sorry. There are other forums for that if that's what you need.
WHO does nothing but belittle that. It does so exploiting the anonymity of the “guest” option.
Maybe so, but he has just as much right to be here as anyone else. Everyone else exploits the anonymity of the guest option too. Why a different standard for Whooter?
There was a specific retort aimed at a survivor reaching out to inform others by sharing her story. The moment that creature responded to her by saying “Nobody cares…I masturbate to these stories”, it in my opinion ought to have been banned.
Yup, I remember that. Didn't sound like TheWho to me. Maybe you haven't been here long enough to recognize that. You think Whooter is the only troll around here? Have another cup of coffee. You need it.
The lurking presence of WHO has been to taunt, to try to intimidate survivors and disseminate disinformation.
Maybe so. But eventually he ends up digging his own grave that way. You are not helping your own credibility by engaging in the exact same kind of behavior.
I wish its posts would be linked up so that it is readily identifiable (and therefore easily dismissed).
Otherwise, why not tell WHO it will be banned if it does not post all future missives from an account bearing its name with REAL photo for avatar?
Neither of these options are censorship.
The options you describe are all censorship, plain and simple. You want a fluffy cozy forum where everyone "understands" your pain? Maybe this ain't the right place for you.
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This forum is a place where survivors of treatment abuses and activists that endeavor to prevent future harms convene.
Nope, sorry. There are other forums for that if that's what you need.
WHO does nothing but belittle that. It does so exploiting the anonymity of the “guest” option.
Maybe so, but he has just as much right to be here as anyone else. Everyone else exploits the anonymity of the guest option too. Why a different standard for Whooter?
There was a specific retort aimed at a survivor reaching out to inform others by sharing her story. The moment that creature responded to her by saying “Nobody cares…I masturbate to these stories”, it in my opinion ought to have been banned.
Yup, I remember that. Didn't sound like TheWho to me. Maybe you haven't been here long enough to recognize that. You think Whooter is the only troll around here? Have another cup of coffee. You need it.
The lurking presence of WHO has been to taunt, to try to intimidate survivors and disseminate disinformation.
Maybe so. But eventually he ends up digging his own grave that way. You are not helping your own credibility by engaging in the exact same kind of behavior.
I wish its posts would be linked up so that it is readily identifiable (and therefore easily dismissed).
Otherwise, why not tell WHO it will be banned if it does not post all future missives from an account bearing its name with REAL photo for avatar?
Neither of these options are censorship.
The options you describe are all censorship, plain and simple. You want a fluffy cozy forum where everyone "understands" your pain? Maybe this ain't the right place for you.
What a weird response. I can only imagine what motivates it and who could have written it...
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This forum is a place where survivors of treatment abuses and activists that endeavor to prevent future harms convene.
Nope, sorry. There are other forums for that if that's what you need..
How would you define this forum?
WHO does nothing but belittle that. It does so exploiting the anonymity of the “guest” option.
Maybe so, but he has just as much right to be here as anyone else. Everyone else exploits the anonymity of the guest option too. Why a different standard for Whooter?.
WHO has abused that option
There was a specific retort aimed at a survivor reaching out to inform others by sharing her story. The moment that creature responded to her by saying “Nobody cares…I masturbate to these stories”, it in my opinion ought to have been banned.
Yup, I remember that. Didn't sound like TheWho to me. Maybe you haven't been here long enough to recognize that. You think Whooter is the only troll around here? Have another cup of coffee. You need it..
ONE by ONE
The lurking presence of WHO has been to taunt, to try to intimidate survivors and disseminate disinformation.
Maybe so. But eventually he ends up digging his own grave that way. You are not helping your own credibility by engaging in the exact same kind of behavior.
Stranger, I stand behind my every word
I wish its posts would be linked up so that it is readily identifiable (and therefore easily dismissed).
Otherwise, why not tell WHO it will be banned if it does not post all future missives from an account bearing its name with REAL photo for avatar?
Neither of these options are censorship.
The options you describe are all censorship, plain and simple. You want a fluffy cozy forum where everyone "understands" your pain? Maybe this ain't the right place for you.
No, neither of those are censorship.and I'm right where I ought to be
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By the way, I’m stepping out for coffee.
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How would you define this forum?
An open forum for "wayward fora" is what I read on the way in. I did not see a mention of this being a forum for survivors.
WHO has abused that option
What is the difference if someone logs in and abuses their login account vs someone who abuses the guset post account?
Stranger, I stand behind my every word
So does WHO and many others who post here.
Neither of these options are censorship.
Banning is censorship. So it is okay to threaten to expose someone if they don’t conform to your rules of conduct? Should we require everyone to post a photo of themselves and log –in with their real name? Or just those who disagree with you.
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You’re hindering my satisfying my frappucino craving.
I’ll respond to what I deem worthwhile.
The WHO does not stand behind its posts.
Q."Or just those who disagree with you?"
A.Just WHO. I bought twenty-five dollars and thirty-two cents of its worthless hide…because I think many people here deserve to have their pound of flesh from it. (and a goat, when I get to it)
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How would you define this forum?
This place has a number of forums, some of which are moderated for those who feel need of it, but I think the description of the TTI forum from the Main Index sums up the core of fornits pretty well:
The Troubled Teen Industry
Compliance is not character. Weakness is not strength. Regression is not growth. Tough love leads to tough hate. Time for some straight talk about the Troubled Parent Industry.
This is an uncensored, unmoderated forum where all viewpoints are both welcome and fair game for debate. It's a snap-shot of the Teen Help industry, and there's nothing inspiring or heart-warming about it. It's pretty damned ugly. Enter at your own risk.[/list]
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You’re hindering my satisfying my frappucino craving.
I’ll respond to what I deem worthwhile.
The WHO does not stand behind its posts.
Mybe not, but how many guests do?
Q."Or just those who disagree with you?"
A.Just WHO. I bought twenty-five dollars and thirty-two cents of its worthless hide…because I think many people here deserve to have their pound of flesh from it. (and a goat, when I get to it)
so if someone spends $26 dollars for "your" hide then it would be okay to require you to post your name and photo?
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Just WHO. I bought twenty-five dollars and thirty-two cents of its worthless hide…because I think many people here deserve to have their pound of flesh from it. (and a goat, when I get to it)
A pseudo bid on a sham auction? Has this farce yet ended? ...Whooter's choking on his coffee from laughter.
Where is the money? Its still in your pocket. Please. You bought nothing. At least be honest about the words you stand by.
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To The statesman:
While, I still feel the way I feel about the trollement and WHO in particular; I read your point.
BTW, I’m relieved you posted from a new state so as to alleviate my concern that Kansas was some reference to a preference to the same named band.
This discourse has been engaging.
Now, off to Starbucks with me.
To Guest (Wrong):
Q.Where is the money? Its still in your pocket.
A. You know nothing. Either way it was $ well spent.
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While we're posting links and all...
The paper trail... (http://http://www.expedition-outfitters.com/LHS/LHS_Page5.htm)
Here peter tells us he has a kid at ASR in 2002 and he seems very proud like it's a prep school. Oh yeah, it's his son, not his made-up daughter. He also tells us his employer (thanks, buddy) and his wife's full maiden name.
Here's another:
ASR Class of 2004 (http://http://www.classmates.com/directory/school/Swift%20River%20Academy?org=21174731)
Son was at ASR for a whopping four years. Set Whooter back plenty for something that didn't work at all.
And another:
Here he provides us his email address. (http://http://www.expedition-outfitters.com/LHS/LHS_Page4.htm)
Yet another:
A search of his email address gets us this... (http://http://www.trailjournals.com/gbookv.cfm?startat=16&trailname=2322) Here he is recruiting people to work at SUWS.
And who worked at SUWS when he sent his kid that he might be associated with?
Now works at Carlbrook which Whooter is quick to defend. (http://http://www.carlbrook.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=92)
This is more than just dredging New England for people named "Peter," Peter. This is a very distinct nexus, I'm afraid.
I have a bunch more, but I'll let some other people do some looking too. I'm sure they'll find even more.
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While we're posting links and all...
The paper trail... (http://http://www.expedition-outfitters.com/LHS/LHS_Page5.htm)
Here peter tells us he has a kid at ASR in 2002 and he seems very proud like it's a prep school. Oh yeah, it's his son, not his made-up daughter. He also tells us his employer (thanks, buddy) and his wife's full maiden name.
Here's another:
ASR Class of 2004 (http://http://www.classmates.com/directory/school/Swift%20River%20Academy?org=21174731)
Son was at ASR for a whopping four years. Set Whooter back plenty for something that didn't work at all.
And another:
Here he provides us his email address. (http://http://www.expedition-outfitters.com/LHS/LHS_Page4.htm)
Yet another:
A search of his email address gets us this... (http://http://www.trailjournals.com/gbookv.cfm?startat=16&trailname=2322) Here he is recruiting people to work at SUWS.
And who worked at SUWS when he sent his kid that he might be associated with?
Now works at Carlbrook which Whooter is quick to defend. (http://http://www.carlbrook.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=92)
This is more than just dredging New England for people named "Peter," Peter. This is a very distinct nexus, I'm afraid.
I have a bunch more, but I'll let some other people do some looking too. I'm sure they'll find even more.
I see a Kelly Dunbar works for Carlbrook Academy? What relation is it to Pete? Does Pete work there, too? Can't find that name..
:cheers: :notworthy: :)
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Lol. You have really have no idea.
For starters: The SUWS-ASR link, while intriguing, means nothing by itself. It's a very common "treatment" itinerary. Second, you haven't proved that Kelly Dunbar of Carlbrook is any relation to or even knows Peter Dunbar. Third, if you'd ever researched within "Classmates" before, you'd know that the dates are notoriously incorrect. Often a high school span (4 years) is slapped on somebody's specs when they've only supplied the graduation date.
Most importantly, you haven't even proved that Michael Dunbar is dead! Where's the obit? That kid is probably alive and well somewhere in Massachusetts while you'll spinning your wheels in the wrong direction!
Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy...
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Lol. You have really have no idea.
For starters: The SUWS-ASR link, while intriguing, means nothing by itself. It's a very common "treatment" itinerary. Second, you haven't proved that Kelly Dunbar of Carlbrook is any relation to or even knows Peter Dunbar. Third, if you'd ever researched within "Classmates" before, you'd know that the dates are notoriously incorrect. Often a high school span (4 years) is slapped on somebody's specs when they've only supplied the graduation date.
Most importantly, you haven't even proved that Michael Dunbar is dead! Where's the obit? That kid is probably alive and well somewhere in Massachusetts while you'll spinning your wheels in the wrong direction!
Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy...
Personally I am excited. So what do we do next? Should we start emailing him or do a road trip? Someone should research the connections to his family like what is mentioned above.
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When TheWho starts using bold, you know he's desperate. Next, he will upsize the text and bold it. Not a very strong denial from Whooter, but he seems really upset. Stings, doesn't it?
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Most importantly, you haven't even proved that Michael Dunbar is dead! Where's the obit? That kid is probably alive and well somewhere in Massachusetts while you'll spinning your wheels in the wrong direction!
Oh thats rich. Ready to string some guy up for supposedly getting his kid to off himself and the kid isn't even dead yet.
Nice lynch mob here.
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When TheWho starts using bold, you know he's desperate. Next, he will upsize the text and bold it. Not a very strong denial from Whooter, but he seems really upset. Stings, doesn't it?
I'd like to see an Obituary or other proof before you make an even bigger fool of us all here.
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Personally I am excited. So what do we do next? Should we start emailing him or do a road trip? Someone should research the connections to his family like what is mentioned above.
where has RobertBruce been? I thought he would be posting about this
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Elvis was the one who said that, Whooter. I never said that was a fact. I used the word "allegedly," if you recall. All we have on that is one guy named Elvis said so. Maybe Elvis will elaborate for us? Or maybe Elvis was just an invention by Whootie to try to muddy the waters? Either way, the guy calling himself "TheWho" here is ol' Pete and the details will all come out in time.
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Behold the wonder of the troll as he posts again and again to himself creating entire conversations with only humself. Anything that he can do to 'bury the lead' eh?
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Where is Michael Dunbar's obituary? I can't believe you people fell for this.
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Behold the wonder of the troll as he posts again and again to himself creating entire conversations with only humself. Anything that he can do to 'bury the lead' eh?
so why did RobertBruce run away? Notice he hasnt logged in, he always posts as a guest when he is unsure of himself and doesnt want to be caught in a pickle. So what did he say that he is afraid of I wonder? Last time he was forced to eat his words (or be accountable for them) and instead took tail and ran (edited his post). not surprising though.
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Behold the wonder of the troll as he posts again and again to himself creating entire conversations with only humself. Anything that he can do to 'bury the lead' eh?
Thewho really is a piece of slime. Just when I started pitying him because of his son's alleged suicide...
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Where is Michael Dunbar's obituary? I can't believe you people fell for this.
maybe even some other kind of proof. is there ANY proof?
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Where is Michael Dunbar's obituary? I can't believe you people fell for this.
maybe even some other kind of proof. is there ANY proof?
Bruce fucked us over again. What a dink, all talk no evidence.
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Nice work, Who! 5 posts in a row! Ya-HOO!! Keep working at it, Pete!
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Bruce fucked us over again. What a dink .
Robert is North Vietnamese now? Whooter, you lost it.
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Elvis was the one who said that, Whooter. I never said that was a fact. I used the word "allegedly," if you recall. All we have on that is one guy named Elvis said so. Maybe Elvis will elaborate for us? Or maybe Elvis was just an invention by Whootie to try to muddy the waters? Either way, the guy calling himself "TheWho" here is ol' Pete and the details will all come out in time.
You have to ask 'Don't Call Me Chris;My Name Is Elvis' about that, Pete. That's the guy that said it.
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Elvis was the one who said that, Whooter. I never said that was a fact. I used the word "allegedly," if you recall. All we have on that is one guy named Elvis said so. Maybe Elvis will elaborate for us? Or maybe Elvis was just an invention by Whootie to try to muddy the waters? Either way, the guy calling himself "TheWho" here is ol' Pete and the details will all come out in time.
You have to ask 'Don't Call Me Chris;My Name Is Elvis' about that, Pete. That's the guy that said it.
:guesswho:
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Oh Petey, still refusing to accept respondsibilty for your actions? Still trying to lay the blame on others? Peter this is only going to get worse until you finally acknowledge everything. Link up all your posts and finally be honest or more information is going to come to light. No more games Peter. It's time you finally learned this lesson. You've been such a strong advocate for the tough love approach, its time you got a dose of it yourself. Oh by the way, there might be something coming in the mail for you that you dont want your wife to see. I know this stings but believe me, it's for your own good. Your behavior on here is the same thing that got you demoted at work. Time to man up Petey.
Oh and for the record, I havent been on all day, you might have to pretend to be multiple posters, but I dont. There really are that many people on here who are salivating at the thought of giving you what you deserve.
As to Mikey, it wasn't my original claim, I just find it to be believable. If I was your son I'd kill myself too.
How are things over at Salem Five?
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Oh, not too long ago, I would say...... It just wont go away, will it Brucie!!!
I sincerly hope not Petey, you're the only one too stupid to understand that the joke's on you.
Oh, No!! The jokes on who? Ha,Ha,Ha, it is so much sweeter when you do it to yourself.
Twice in a row Brucie,, Sting!!! Now I know that smarts!!
Thought I would reference this before he has a chance to edit his post again.
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Oh Petey, still refusing to accept respondsibilty for your actions? Still trying to lay the blame on others? Peter this is only going to get worse until you finally acknowledge everything. Link up all your posts and finally be honest or more information is going to come to light. No more games Peter. It's time you finally learned this lesson. You've been such a strong advocate for the tough love approach, its time you got a dose of it yourself. Oh by the way, there might be something coming in the mail for you that you dont want your wife to see. I know this stings but believe me, it's for your own good. Your behavior on here is the same thing that got you demoted at work. Time to man up Petey.
Oh and for the record, I havent been on all day, you might have to pretend to be multiple posters, but I dont. There really are that many people on here who are salivating at the thought of giving you what you deserve.
As to Mikey, it wasn't my original claim, I just find it to be believable. If I was your son I'd kill myself too.
How are things over at Salem Five?
You haven't brought up anything he should be accountable for. Where's the proof of Michael Dunbar's death?
Continuing to claim that this particular kid allegedly died when he's probably still very much alive is just plain irresponsible. It actually makes you look pretty stupid. I'm not even going to tell how it makes you look when you heap juvenile insults on top of your vacuous claims.
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Can we get a photo of Peter Dunbar up? Thanks
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I have no idea if his kid is dead or not. Again I believe it, but Peter has an opportunity to clear the air right here.
Peter Dunbar, is your son Mike dead or alive?
While youre dodging that I wonder if you can tell me what it is you think you're holding me accountable for? Or what it is that I'm supposed to be feeling the sting over?
Once you do that I'll post things Peter needs to be accountable for.
If he doesnt I'll post more personal information.
Also Peter, I'm serious about keeping an eye on the mailbox. Eileen or Ellen or whatever her name is won't be happy when she sees what I sent you.
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The proof is in the pudding. Let's have a taste.
Hmmm?
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Can we get a photo of Peter Dunbar up? Thanks
Why don't we post a photo of YOU first. After all, you have more to do with Whooter than Peter Dunbar does.
Think of it, Whooter actually wants you to focus more on "Pete." Is there enough of a connection between two brain cells that might enable you to understand why?
Try, just try to remember all the hysteria over that innocent schmuck over in Newton, Mass. that you were all lighting the torches for. Whooter had a good laugh over that at your expense. Still continues to bring it up. I can guarantee you he'll be bringing this one up for years to come.
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Can we get a photo of Peter Dunbar up? Thanks
Mike Dunbar (http://http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Dunbar/500743425)
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I have no idea if his kid is dead or not. Again I believe it, but Peter has an opportunity to clear the air right here.
Peter Dunbar, is your son Mike dead or alive?
Can everyone start to see the back peddling... ever so slightly trying to distance himself from the mess he caused himself. In a few days we will be hearing how he had no part in this at all and he was just on the sidelines like everyone else(after he edits his posts).
"Peter Dunbar? What is everyone talking about? That wasnt me...it was thewho making it up the whole time. Thewho is trying to smear my name again!! Please you have to believe me!!"
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Peter Dunbar, being thewho, has never been able to smear my or anyone elses name. He makes up ridiculus claims, and later denies having made them as he is a coward. He is an impotent child who is incapable of accomplishing anything against anyone save making himself look really, really stupid.
Here Peter, quote this as fast as you can:
I have no idea if Mike Dunbar is dead, but I believe the claim having been made, I believe by Elvis. If you state for the record that he is not dead, then I'll take that at face value and apologize to Mike should he make an appearance on this board. Either way, I had nothing to do with originating the claim.
Peter Dunbar is thewho. I stand by that unequivocally. I was among the first to see the information, and have seen coroborating evidence first hand.
Anything else Peter? Let me know, and get on those questions or as I mentioned earlier, more information will come to light.
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Peter Dunbar, being thewho, has never been able to smear my or anyone elses name. He makes up ridiculus claims, and later denies having made them as he is a coward. He is an impotent child who is incapable of accomplishing anything against anyone save making himself look really, really stupid.
Here Peter, quote this as fast as you can:
I have no idea if Mike Dunbar is dead, but I believe the claim having been made, I believe by Elvis. If you state for the record that he is not dead, then I'll take that at face value and apologize to Mike should he make an appearance on this board. Either way, I had nothing to do with originating the claim.
Peter Dunbar is thewho. I stand by that unequivocally. I was among the first to see the information, and have seen coroborating evidence first hand.
Anything else Peter? Let me know, and get on those questions or as I mentioned earlier, more information will come to light.
Quoted for posterity.
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Nope, sorry. There are other forums for that if that's what you need
This forum is designed to be honest about this industry, hence the problem with Peter thewho, and most of the programmies on here. They are liars who are afraid of the truth.
If they were honest in their approach and discussion despite having a different opinion, there wouldnt be nearly the issue.
Maybe so, but he has just as much right to be here as anyone else. Everyone else exploits the anonymity of the guest option too. Why a different standard for Whooter?
Peter thewho does it as a means of distracting from important issues, burying the truth about himself, making it appear that there are many more supporters for his cause then are actually present, or attacking people from the shadows while trying to avoid accountablity. There isnt a different standard, survivors simply dont play the same game he does.
Yup, I remember that. Didn't sound like TheWho to me. Maybe you haven't been here long enough to recognize that. You think Whooter is the only troll around here? Have another cup of coffee. You need it.
It was Peter though. This is a perfect example of Peter playing from the shadows while attempting to avoid accountablility.
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Peter Dunbar, being thewho, has never been able to smear my or anyone elses name. He makes up ridiculus claims, and later denies having made them as he is a coward. He is an impotent child who is incapable of accomplishing anything against anyone save making himself look really, really stupid.
Here Peter, quote this as fast as you can:
I have no idea if Mike Dunbar is dead, but I believe the claim having been made, I believe by Elvis. If you state for the record that he is not dead, then I'll take that at face value and apologize to Mike should he make an appearance on this board. Either way, I had nothing to do with originating the claim.
Peter Dunbar is thewho. I stand by that unequivocally. I was among the first to see the information, and have seen coroborating evidence first hand.
Anything else Peter? Let me know, and get on those questions or as I mentioned earlier, more information will come to light.
But, Elvis has left the building Bruce!
RobertBruce practicing (http://http://scottjberry.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/backpedaling3.jpg)
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Maybe so. But eventually he ends up digging his own grave that way. You are not helping your own credibility by engaging in the exact same kind of behavior.
Yet we're the ones who are honest on here, nor him or his ilk. The truth is on our side, hence why this industry is crumbling. Besides, the only obsessed with credibility here is Peter, the guy who never had any.
Maybe so. But eventually he ends up digging his own grave that way. You are not helping your own credibility by engaging in the exact same kind of behavior.
Peter was banned in the past for spamming, flooding, and impersonating other posters. He purposely sought out to disrupt the forum, and he was silenced for it. Where's the problem?
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But, Elvis has left the building Bruce!
Has he? How would you know? If he has what difference would it make? He still apparently originated the post.
You still assume that I play the same games as you Peter, I don't need to back peddal, I stand behind my statements. Care to address the ones you've been too afraid to acknowledge?
Case in point: I still believe your son Mike Dunbar to have killed himself. If he hasn't then just say so. Simple as that Peter.
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But, Elvis has left the building Bruce!
Has he? How would you know? If he has what difference would it make? He still apparently originated the post.
You still assume that I play the same games as you Peter, I don't need to back peddal, I stand behind my statements. Care to address the ones you've been too afraid to acknowledge?
Case in point: I still believe your son Mike Dunbar to have killed himself. If he hasn't then just say so. Simple as that Peter.
Where is the information onwhich you base your beliefs? No obit, no link. How did you arrive at this conclusion?
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But, Elvis has left the building Bruce!
Has he? How would you know? If he has what difference would it make? He still apparently originated the post.
You still assume that I play the same games as you Peter, I don't need to back peddal, I stand behind my statements *. Care to address the ones you've been too afraid to acknowledge?
Case in point: I still believe your son Mike Dunbar to have killed himself. If he hasn't then just say so. Simple as that Peter.
*and when I dont I simply edit them.
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Peter, do you really need to compare which of the two of us has had to go back and edit posts more. I know you dont want to be that embarrassed. I stand behind each one of my comments. If you have questions about my individual postings, by all means, ask. I'd be glad to educate you yet again
As to what my basis is for believing Mike Dunbar is dead? The same as everyone else on here; Elvis' comment. Plus that coupled with the fact that most people would kill themselves versus a life spent with Peter Dunbar.
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Peter, do you really need to compare which of the two of us has had to go back and edit posts more. I know you dont want to be that embarrassed. I stand behind each one of my comments *. If you have questions about my individual postings, by all means, ask. I'd be glad to educate you yet again
As to what my basis is for believing Mike Dunbar is dead? The same as everyone else on here; Elvis' comment. Plus that coupled with the fact that most people would kill themselves versus a life spent with Peter Dunbar.
Ladies and Gentlemen Elvis has left the building!!
RobertBruce speeding up (http://http://scottjberry.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/backpedaling3.jpg)
*and when I dont I simply edit them. (Sorry Bruce, cant let you off the hook)
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Hahahaha
For what Peter?
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But, Elvis has left the building Bruce!
Has he? How would you know? If he has what difference would it make? He still apparently originated the post.
You still assume that I play the same games as you Peter, I don't need to back peddal, I stand behind my statements. Care to address the ones you've been too afraid to acknowledge?
Case in point: I still believe your son Mike Dunbar to have killed himself. If he hasn't then just say so. Simple as that Peter.
The burden of proof for that death is on you, RobertBruce. Elvis never claimed that Whooter's son "Mike Dunbar" killed himself, just that Whooter's son is now dead and plus his identity was not given. Go back and check the post, he can't edit it.
I could just as easily claim that your mother is dead, she must have killed herself, after all a life with RobertBruce as a son is enough to do that to a person. How does 10 or 20 pages of posts on that fantasy sound?
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Awww Petey did we touch a nerve? Looks like it.
I'm going to give you your usual chance to retract your statement before I prove you wrong and shame you once again. You've got five minutes.
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Time's up.
viewtopic.php?f=41&t=27535&start=30 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=27535&start=30)
Take a look for yourself Peter. I made a comment regarding your imaginary daughter. Someone presumably Elvis, but possibly you as everyone on here knows all the games you like to play, stated that you actually had a son, who had killed himself.
I then replied by asking you if that was true.
Feel the need to go back and edit your post now Peter? Too bad you can't. Stings doesnt it?
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Awww Brucey did we touch a nerve? Looks like it.
Speaking of "shame", this sounds about right:
I could just as easily claim that your mother is dead, she must have killed herself, after all a life with RobertBruce as a son is enough to do that to a person. How does 10 or 20 pages of posts on that fantasy sound?
As to what my basis is for believing RobertBruce's mother is dead? The same as everyone else on here; somebody's comment. Plus that coupled with the fact that most people would kill themselves versus a life spent with RobertBruce.
Doesn't feel so nice, does it?
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It feels fine, my mother isn't dead, so why would it bother me? Your son apparently is, so it bothers you. I don't have any problems saying that, again I would have killed myself if I was your son too. I'm surprised the other one hasnt. You are getting back exactly what you put out here Peter, don't cry about it now. The only one with touched nerves and watery eyes is you. If your son isn't dead, or if he died in a different manner just say so, and I'll apologize and drop the matter entirely.
Oh and just to clear up your other misconception. Here is the first mention of your son by name, by a poster other than myself:
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27884&p=335901&hilit=mike#p335901 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27884&p=335901&hilit=mike#p335901)
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Awww Brucey did we touch a nerve? Looks like it.
Speaking of "shame", this sounds about right:
I could just as easily claim that your mother is dead, she must have killed herself, after all a life with RobertBruce as a son is enough to do that to a person. How does 10 or 20 pages of posts on that fantasy sound?
As to what my basis is for believing RobertBruce's mother is dead? The same as everyone else on here; somebody's comment. Plus that coupled with the fact that most people would kill themselves versus a life spent with RobertBruce.
Doesn't feel so nice, does it?
If you, peter, had a son and he killed himself, its because of you and what you did to him. Any reasonable person would come to the same conclusion. You are incontrovertibly insane or sadistic. Either way, there is something deeply wrong with you that would be difficult to get through even without the torture of ASR. You should really be deeply, deeply ashamed of yourself.
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Time's up.
viewtopic.php?f=41&t=27535&start=30 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=27535&start=30)
Take a look for yourself Peter. I made a comment regarding your imaginary daughter. Someone presumably Elvis, but possibly you as everyone on here knows all the games you like to play, stated that you actually had a son, who had killed himself.
I then replied by asking you if that was true.
Feel the need to go back and edit your post now Peter? Too bad you can't. Stings doesnt it?
Ha,ha,ha you can't even find the right forum, not to mention post! Here it is, knock yourself out:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27732&start=30#p334066 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27732&start=30#p334066)
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Maybe that's why he can't ever acknowledge the truth about these places or admit when he's wrong. Doing so would mean he would have to accept respondsibility for his sons death. If it wasn't such a horrible person it would be sad. Clear the air for us one way or the other Peter. Either way I'll move on.
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Peter refer back to your earlier posts if you need help. You claimed the burden for your sons suicide was on me. You claimed that no one else had stated that Elvis had stated your son had simply died, not killed himself, and that I ran with the whole thing.
I simply proved you wrong.
I showed you when and where the conversation took place where I was first told that you had a son, and that the son had killed himself. No worries though Peter, I know you still can't handle this.
Your own link only highlights that the original claim came about during a conversation I wasn't apart of. Thanks for absolving me Pete!
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Peter refer back to your earlier posts if you need help. You claimed the burden for your sons suicide was on me. You claimed that no one else had stated that Elvis had stated your son had simply died, not killed himself, and that I ran with the whole thing.
I simply proved you wrong.
I showed you when and where the conversation took place where I was first told that you had a son, and that the son had killed himself. No worries though Peter, I know you still can't handle this.
Your own link only highlights that the original claim came about during a conversation I wasn't apart of. Thanks for absolving me Pete!
Oh it's quite clear that you're not the only one making a fool out of themselves here.
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Peter, do you really need to compare which of the two of us has had to go back and edit posts more. I know you dont want to be that embarrassed.
Just because I can't resist:
After doing a quick search it appears over the past four years I have edited my post a grand total of 25 times.
Peter Dunbar aka TheWho meanwhile has 25 pages of posting searched for under the same criteria. I incidentally had 5. It took me all 5 of those pages to come up with my 25. It took 2 to reach 25 for Peter. Imagine how high it would have gotten had I included the other 23?
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Oh it's quite clear that you're not the only one making a fool out of themselves here.
Does that include you Pete? Afterall it was you who was proven wrong here. You claimed the burden of proof was on me for a claim I didn't originate. Why the sudden back peddaling Pete?
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Time's up.
viewtopic.php?f=41&t=27535&start=30 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=27535&start=30)
Take a look for yourself Peter. I made a comment regarding your imaginary daughter. Someone presumably Elvis, but possibly you as everyone on here knows all the games you like to play, stated that you actually had a son, who had killed himself.
I then replied by asking you if that was true.
Feel the need to go back and edit your post now Peter? Too bad you can't. Stings doesnt it?
Ha,ha,ha you can't even find the right forum, not to mention post! Here it is, knock yourself out:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27732&start=30#p334066 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27732&start=30#p334066)
Geeesh, I leave for awhile and I get trolled... at least get it right guest ...its: Ha,Ha,Ha
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Oh it's quite clear that you're not the only one making a fool out of themselves here.
Does that include you Pete? Afterall it was you who was proven wrong here. You claimed the burden of proof was on me for a claim I didn't originate. Why the sudden back peddaling Pete?
Re-read the post. It was in response to a post by you.
Whether or not you originated the rumor of "Pete Dunbar" is immaterial if you continue to state it despite repeated requests for proof, which have not been forthcoming.
The burden of proof rests on all who continue to state the rumor. Feel better?
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I guess the grave yard shift in Peter's brain is taking over, another personality has assumed control. With that I'll say good night for now. Give serious considerating to having all your posts linked up Peter. I know you hate it but I'm not going to stop holding you accountable. This is your chance to finally be honest for a change. Give it some thought .Night.
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Does back peddaling make you feel better?
Pick a topic you'd like to specifically address here Peter.
If you're asking for the basis of where the fact that you are Peter Dunbar came from then say so. If you're asking for the basis of the claim that your son killed himself, well that question has been answered and the ball is now in your court.
Which is it Pete?
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Here is where I left off:
Peter, do you really need to compare which of the two of us has had to go back and edit posts more. I know you dont want to be that embarrassed. I stand behind each one of my comments *. If you have questions about my individual postings, by all means, ask. I'd be glad to educate you yet again
As to what my basis is for believing Mike Dunbar is dead? The same as everyone else on here; Elvis' comment. Plus that coupled with the fact that most people would kill themselves versus a life spent with Peter Dunbar.
Ladies and Gentlemen Elvis has left the building!!
RobertBruce speeding up (http://http://scottjberry.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/backpedaling3.jpg)
*and when I dont I simply edit them. (Sorry Bruce, cant let you off the hook)
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Oh and for the record:
Can everyone start to see the back peddling... ever so slightly trying to distance himself from the mess he caused himself
Not quite the same tune now is it Peter?
Whether or not you originated the rumor of "Pete Dunbar" is immaterial if you continue to state it despite repeated requests for proof, which have not been forthcoming.
The burden of proof rests on all who continue to state the rumor. Feel better?
or
the burden of proof is on you
Sure does suck not being able to go back and edit your posts like the old days huh Pete?
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If you're asking for the basis of where the fact that you are Peter Dunbar came from then say so. If you're asking for the basis of the claim that your son killed himself, well that question has been answered and the ball is now in your court.
I am not theWho, but I am still waiting for proof that Michael Dunbar killed himself. That question has NOT been answered.
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Here is where I left off:
Peter, do you really need to compare which of the two of us has had to go back and edit posts more. I know you dont want to be that embarrassed. I stand behind each one of my comments *. If you have questions about my individual postings, by all means, ask. I'd be glad to educate you yet again
As to what my basis is for believing Mike Dunbar is dead? The same as everyone else on here; Elvis' comment. Plus that coupled with the fact that most people would kill themselves versus a life spent with Peter Dunbar.
Ladies and Gentlemen Elvis has left the building!!
RobertBruce speeding up (http://http://scottjberry.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/backpedaling3.jpg)
*and when I dont I simply edit them. (Sorry Bruce, cant let you off the hook)
No Peter, I don't employ your catch phrase of "what I meant to say" after you've been quoted, proven wrong, shamed and owned. I stand by my comments. I back them up. Things you wouldnt know anything about. I'm still waiting to hear what it is you feel you have me on the hook for? Afterall in just the past few hours I've proven you to be a liar yet again, and I've proven that you seek to edit your post far more often then I ever have, and I've been here longer. Come on now Pete, try a straight answer for once. What is it you think you have me on the hook for? Anything?
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If you're asking for the basis of where the fact that you are Peter Dunbar came from then say so. If you're asking for the basis of the claim that your son killed himself, well that question has been answered and the ball is now in your court.
I am not theWho, but I am still waiting for proof that Michael Dunbar killed himself. That question has NOT been answered.
Yes you are, but that's allright. If you want proof take it up with the person who made the claim to begin with. He's the one who would know. I just find it believable, hence why I asked you about it. It's not my fault youre still too much of a coward to answer a simple question.
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Bruce put himself in this mess. We are just waiting for the proof , Brucie. You want to go back and edit your posts again? Fine, but we have the originals this time. So, either put up the proof or start your back pedaling again.
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Now Bruce thinks all guests are thewho!!
Hey Horton... do you hear a who?
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*YAWN*. No need to back peddal, that's your forte. I stand by my comments. I find the idea of your son killing himself completly plausabile. Anyone would do the same to get away from you. Until I see or hear otherwise I'll continue to believe that your son did indeed kill himself. Thank you again for adding more evidence proving I had nothing to do with originating the claim concerning your son killing himself. See if you can track down Elvis for proof one way or the other. I'd be interested to hear the truth on the matter since you're apparently too much of a coward to say.
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If you're asking for the basis of where the fact that you are Peter Dunbar came from then say so. If you're asking for the basis of the claim that your son killed himself, well that question has been answered and the ball is now in your court.
I am not theWho, but I am still waiting for proof that Michael Dunbar killed himself. That question has NOT been answered.
Yes you are, but that's allright. If you want proof take it up with the person who made the claim to begin with. He's the one who would know. I just find it believable, hence why I asked you about it. It's not my fault youre still too much of a coward to answer a simple question.
No... I really am NOT theWho. And I don't appreciate your calling me names. Since you seem to be the only one who is still stating that Michael Dunbar killed himself, I ask you once again: where is the proof? There doesn't even seem to be proof that he is DEAD, let alone killed himself, so what's up with that? Do you always make up charges like this about posters you don't like? If you stand by your comments, let's hear it.
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*YAWN*. No need to back peddal, that's your forte. I stand by my comments.* I find the idea of your son killing himself completly plausabile. Anyone would do the same to get away from you. Until I see or hear otherwise I'll continue to believe that your son did indeed kill himself. Thank you again for adding more evidence proving I had nothing to do with originating the claim concerning your son killing himself. See if you can track down Elvis for proof one way or the other. I'd be interested to hear the truth on the matter since you're apparently too much of a coward to say.
I think I mentioned earlier that by tomorrow his new position will be that he was sitting on the sidelines and wasnt involved in this mess at all. Ya gotta love Brucies consistency. He is getting dam close isnt he?
RobertBruce speeding up (http://http://scottjberry.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/backpedaling3.jpg)
*and when I dont I simply edit them. (Sorry Bruce, cant let you off the hook)
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Do you always make up charges like this about posters you don't like?
Nope. I know you hate this Pete, but the proof is already out there, you cant change it .Elvis originated the post, not me, I just believe it to be true. I know it stings to have to face that you were proven wrong again, but you cant hide from the truth.
When can we expect those posts to be linked up?
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The devil is in the details. Care to elaborate?
I sure do love twittering about Albert Einstein.
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Awww Brucey did we touch a nerve? Looks like it.
Speaking of "shame", this sounds about right:
I could just as easily claim that your mother is dead, she must have killed herself, after all a life with RobertBruce as a son is enough to do that to a person. How does 10 or 20 pages of posts on that fantasy sound?
As to what my basis is for believing RobertBruce's mother is dead? The same as everyone else on here; somebody's comment. Plus that coupled with the fact that most people would kill themselves versus a life spent with RobertBruce.
Doesn't feel so nice, does it?
If you, peter, had a son and he killed himself, its because of you and what you did to him. Any reasonable person would come to the same conclusion. You are incontrovertibly insane or sadistic. Either way, there is something deeply wrong with you that would be difficult to get through even without the torture of ASR. You should really be deeply, deeply ashamed of yourself.
I agree 100%. Pete should be good and goddamned ashamed of himself, but you know what? He's a sociopath with no feelings, as he stated in his earlier posts. Whatever. He's done now. It's all out there for everyone to see. And if none of it were true, he wouldn't be upset, just as RB is not upset when Whooter accuses him of things that aren't true.
If TheWho wants to continue to pound the point of suicide, let him track down Elvis for an explanation. Elvis said it, not me. I'm not going to do TheWho's busywork.
Maybe he'll just quit soon, like he quit college?
BTW, I haven't seen any denials from Pete that he is indeed Pete. You have to read between the line with TheWho.
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Nope. I know you hate this Pete, but the proof is already out there, you cant change it .Elvis originated the post, not me, I just believe it to be true. I know it stings to have to face that you were proven wrong again, but you cant hide from the truth.
Right on que. Bruce you are so predictable.
Stage I: Thewho’s name is Peter Dunbar!! Yeah, I nailed him and I found out his kid committed suicide after ASR. Everyone cheer for me.
Stage II: Well, I don’t have any proof. But I am sure it is true!!! I nailed TheWho hooray for me!!!
Stage III: today “Well, it wasn’t me, it was Elvis, I never had anything to do with it."
You have just witnessed classic Bruce.
RobertBruce full speed (http://http://scottjberry.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/backpedaling3.jpg)
When can we expect those posts to be linked up?
Bruce, you will need to link up your own guest posts also. This will never happen.
Admin note from last week:
RobertBruce, we asked that your posts be linked up along with TheWho’s and you have denied our request. As soon as we receive your confirmation (via PM) we will link up your posts.
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Do you always make up charges like this about posters you don't like?
Nope. I know you hate this Pete, but the proof is already out there, you cant change it .Elvis originated the post, not me, I just believe it to be true. I know it stings to have to face that you were proven wrong again, but you cant hide from the truth.
When can we expect those posts to be linked up?
Who's hiding who, RobertBruce? I don't see that Elvis mentioned any names here (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27732&start=30#p334068). You should be more careful about the claims you make.
Did Whooter give permission for his posts to be linked up? I can't find that either.
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Nope. I know you hate this Pete, but the proof is already out there, you cant change it .Elvis originated the post, not me, I just believe it to be true. I know it stings to have to face that you were proven wrong again, but you cant hide from the truth.
Right on que. Bruce you are so predictable.
Stage I: Thewho’s name is Peter Dunbar!! Yeah, I nailed him and I found out his kid committed suicide after ASR. Everyone cheer for me.
Stage II: Well, I don’t have any proof. But I am sure it is true!!! I nailed TheWho hooray for me!!!
Stage III: today “Well, it wasn’t me, it was Elvis, I never had anything to do with it."
You have just witnessed classic Bruce.
RobertBruce full speed (http://http://scottjberry.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/backpedaling3.jpg)
When can we expect those posts to be linked up?
Bruce, you will need to link up your own guest posts also. This will never happen.
Admin note from last week:
RobertBruce, we asked that your posts be linked up along with TheWho’s and you have denied our request. As soon as we receive your confirmation (via PM) we will link up your posts.
Sorry Pete, but hows your dead son? Let me explain something to you with your small brain. I dont have to reveal my guest posts, just you, child abuser. You know why? Because I am a survivor and therefore am protected on this board. You are an industry shill. Everyone hates you, you killed your own son. I know your name and your kids names.
Have you received that package yet?
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You tel him, Bruce! Who does he think he is, insulting us and trolling us on OUR forum??!!! Make that sucker fry! I hope you sent Petey Weetey a pakage of turds!
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You tel him, Bruce! Who does he think he is, insulting us and trolling us on OUR forum??!!! Make that sucker fry! I hope you sent Petey Weetey a pakage of turds!
It was brilliant. I found his address and sent him a package. I hope his wife opens it up first lol, I wish I could be there. I can see Whootey now waiting by the mail box to intercept it.. I tell you I am always thinking and I can outsmart the best of them, whooter is an easy target.
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RB you may be but bruce you are not . .
You tel him, Bruce! Who does he think he is, insulting us and trolling us on OUR forum??!!! Make that sucker fry! I hope you sent Petey Weetey a pakage of turds!
It was brilliant. I found his address and sent him a package. I hope his wife opens it up first lol, I wish I could be there. I can see Whootey now waiting by the mail box to intercept it.. I tell you I am always thinking and I can outsmart the best of them, whooter is an easy target.
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You tel him, Bruce! Who does he think he is, insulting us and trolling us on OUR forum??!!! Make that sucker fry! I hope you sent Petey Weetey a pakage of turds!
It was brilliant. I found his address and sent him a package. I hope his wife opens it up first lol, I wish I could be there. I can see Whootey now waiting by the mail box to intercept it.. I tell you I am always thinking and I can outsmart the best of them, whooter is an easy target.
Man, I wwish I could be there!!! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
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I think,I'm beginning to understand ...I think(The whys of the persistence of the indulged existence of WHO and who-like creatures)
From another thread:And we become the dragon that we set out to slay.
No, 'we' don't. We don't support programs that abuse kids, we just delete bullshit posts on a message board; big difference.
No, not really. Frod, ya know I love ya dearly and respect you profoundly. But I think you're missing the bigger picture. We're all in the program now. Very literally, we are and we'd best deal with it with the benefit of hind-sight.
The absolute most basic element of the Program is to control information. The whole idea of Fornits is to see what happens if you pull that linchpin. There is no practical way to blacklist certain individuals or groups of them except to do it in reverse and allow posting only from a whitelist. That would mean that a person would have to be fairly surely identified in order to be allowed to post. That would put an end to a lot of the most vital information that has come only from Fornits and had made it the "must read" source for industry information prior to the onslaught of cyberbullying and trolling by Sue Scheff, The Whooter et al.
There have been posts by kids sneaking into computer labs or current staff just prior to resignation that have made public incredibly useful information. People with good reason to be cautions with their identities have provided facts and leads that have hurt the industry in various ways. Is it really worth it to put an end to that kind of communication?
Even when programmies think they're helping their cause, they often shoot themselves in the foot. Remember that kid who's boyfriend got dissapeared into a WWASP program? His family had it out with her and us in a way that would NEVER have transpired with an ID check at the door. It made enough noise that people contacted the court, filled them in n relavent facts and the judge ordered the kid released..I guess you could say it's kinda like what would happen if rodeo clowns inadvertently drew a crowd from a PETA convention.
I guess you could say it's kinda like what would happen if rodeo clowns inadvertently drew a crowd from a PETA convention.-ANTIGEN
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You tel him, Bruce! Who does he think he is, insulting us and trolling us on OUR forum??!!! Make that sucker fry! I hope you sent Petey Weetey a pakage of turds!
The scary part? This dude is sixty years old and this is how he acts. It really is sad and it is a window into why his child was so messed up. Just look at his role model: acts juvenile and steadfastly avoids responsibility for his actions. He locked up his kid for doing what he himself does daily. Think about that. Locking up your kid for acting like yourself. Fucking sad, bro.
Whooter, how do you think Donny wil react when he sees all of your "work" here? Will he be mad that his business is connected to your rantings? What if all that becomes public and steers families away from Dunbar EdCon Services? Donnie is going to be plenty sore at you.
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You tel him, Bruce! Who does he think he is, insulting us and trolling us on OUR forum??!!! Make that sucker fry! I hope you sent Petey Weetey a pakage of turds!
The scary part? This dude is sixty years old and this is how he acts. It really is sad and it is a window into why his child was so messed up. Just look at his role model: acts juvenile and steadfastly avoids responsibility for his actions. He locked up his kid for doing what he himself does daily. Think about that. Locking up your kid for acting like yourself. Fucking sad, bro.
Whooter, how do you think Donny wil react when he sees all of your "work" here? Will he be mad that his business is connected to your rantings? What if all that becomes public and steers families away from Dunbar EdCon Services? Donnie is going to be plenty sore at you.
Actually that is the black sheep of the family. they have lowered themselves to the grind of the middle class, 9-5 job, making the kids get summer jobs etc. Not sure what they are all trying to prove with the Ed-Con service. Why work when you have a trust fund that will support yourself, kids and grandchildren? How many here would work if could live comfortable, travel, 2nd homes etc. without it? Craziness!
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While we're posting links and all...
The paper trail... (http://http://www.expedition-outfitters.com/LHS/LHS_Page5.htm)
Here peter tells us he has a kid at ASR in 2002 and he seems very proud like it's a prep school. Oh yeah, it's his son, not his made-up daughter. He also tells us his employer (thanks, buddy) and his wife's full maiden name.
Here's another:
ASR Class of 2004 (http://http://www.classmates.com/directory/school/Swift%20River%20Academy?org=21174731)
Son was at ASR for a whopping four years. Set Whooter back plenty for something that didn't work at all.
And another:
Here he provides us his email address. (http://http://www.expedition-outfitters.com/LHS/LHS_Page4.htm)
Yet another:
A search of his email address gets us this... (http://http://www.trailjournals.com/gbookv.cfm?startat=16&trailname=2322) Here he is recruiting people to work at SUWS.
And who worked at SUWS when he sent his kid that he might be associated with?
Now works at Carlbrook which Whooter is quick to defend. (http://http://www.carlbrook.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=92)
This is more than just dredging New England for people named "Peter," Peter. This is a very distinct nexus, I'm afraid.
I have a bunch more, but I'll let some other people do some looking too. I'm sure they'll find even more.
Back to the RED MEAT of this thread. A bit too much for coincidence I would say. Peter can probably give us some data points to assess the issue.
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While we're posting links and all...
The paper trail... (http://http://www.expedition-outfitters.com/LHS/LHS_Page5.htm)
Here peter tells us he has a kid at ASR in 2002 and he seems very proud like it's a prep school. Oh yeah, it's his son, not his made-up daughter. He also tells us his employer (thanks, buddy) and his wife's full maiden name.
Here's another:
ASR Class of 2004 (http://http://www.classmates.com/directory/school/Swift%20River%20Academy?org=21174731)
Son was at ASR for a whopping four years. Set Whooter back plenty for something that didn't work at all.
And another:
Here he provides us his email address. (http://http://www.expedition-outfitters.com/LHS/LHS_Page4.htm)
Yet another:
A search of his email address gets us this... (http://http://www.trailjournals.com/gbookv.cfm?startat=16&trailname=2322) Here he is recruiting people to work at SUWS.
And who worked at SUWS when he sent his kid that he might be associated with?
Now works at Carlbrook which Whooter is quick to defend. (http://http://www.carlbrook.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=92)
This is more than just dredging New England for people named "Peter," Peter. This is a very distinct nexus, I'm afraid.
I have a bunch more, but I'll let some other people do some looking too. I'm sure they'll find even more.
Back to the RED MEAT of this thread. A bit too much for coincidence I would say. Peter can probably give us some data points to assess the issue.
Yeah, so there's Peter Dunbar, Donald Dunbar, and Kelly Dunbar. We still haven't nailed down whether their related but I'm sure that information will be shortcoming. Any other suspicious Dunbars we can tie in to this?
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Yeah, so there's Peter Dunbar, Donald Dunbar, and Kelly Dunbar. We still haven't nailed down whether their related but I'm sure that information will be shortcoming. Any other suspicious Dunbars we can tie in to this?
I am working on another Dunbar living in Maine who looks suspicious. Remember that I get the credit for this whole thing if we nail this guy and that I was the first one to make contact when I sent the package out yesterday.
Still Shaking in your boots whooter?
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Yeah, so there's Peter Dunbar, Donald Dunbar, and Kelly Dunbar. We still haven't nailed down whether their related but I'm sure that information will be shortcoming. Any other suspicious Dunbars we can tie in to this?
I am working on another Dunbar living in Maine who looks suspicious. Remember that I get the credit for this whole thing if we nail this guy and that I was the first one to make contact when I sent the package out yesterday.
Still Shaking in your boots whooter?
Well you wouldn't believe how many Dunbars there are in the state of Utah. That state has got to be a goldmine for people like this. What about "Dunlop"? Think they're related?
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Yeah, so there's Peter Dunbar, Donald Dunbar, and Kelly Dunbar. We still haven't nailed down whether their related but I'm sure that information will be shortcoming. Any other suspicious Dunbars we can tie in to this?
I am working on another Dunbar living in Maine who looks suspicious. Remember that I get the credit for this whole thing if we nail this guy and that I was the first one to make contact when I sent the package out yesterday.
Still Shaking in your boots whooter?
Well you wouldn't believe how many Dunbars there are in the state of Utah. That state has got to be a goldmine for people like this. What about "Dunlop"? Think they're related?
I wouldn’t put it past TheWho changing his kids last name. Especially after his kid killed himself. If you find someone who committed suicide with the last name of Dunlop I think that would fit. I would buy into that. TheWho is trying to cover his trail but he will be exposed!!
Everyone keep looking. I am still checking up in the Maine area,not many up there though.
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While we're posting links and all...
Here's another:
Yet another:
This is a very distinct nexus, I'm afraid.
Back to the RED MEAT of this thread. A bit too much for coincidence I would say. Peter can probably give us some data points to assess the issue.
We still haven't nailed down whether their related but I'm sure that information will be shortcoming.
Yes, I'm sure this information Will be shortcoming.
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Since you sold your Fornits account already, I guess I'll sell your true identity. "Who" wants it? Step right up and start the bidding.
Now, Who, I know you don't want this out there including all of the links to what you do for a living, etc (I know you love you some data, huh?), so I'll let you bid on it, too.
Shall we get the bidding started??
I haven't heard from "My Two Sons" lately. He seems to know a lot about TheWho. Is this auction still open? The hell with the 1st Amendment and being democratic, I just want to fry this sucker.
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Remember when thewho claimed he was a program parent with a kid at Academy at Swift River?
He presented that identity for over 4 years, I think. I wonder if the people he issued referals to during that time know he is now impersonating a 20 yr old by inventing a similar user name with a - at the end of it, or trying to convince go knows who that he is actually Robert Bruce through anonymous postings... when he's not denying that he's Peter Dunbar.
It's a little weird. Sure, you know he was never just what he pretended to be, but him dropping the pretense altogether and displaying full-out psychotic, observably dishonest, straight ahead trolling? More than a little disturbing.
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This is just going to play out like a Darth and Skywalker thing ,right?
Is "my name is Elvis", secretly the son of WHO?
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Remember when thewho claimed he was a program parent with a kid at Academy at Swift River?
He presented that identity for over 4 years, I think. I wonder if the people he issued referals to during that time know he is now impersonating a 20 yr old by inventing a similar user name with a - at the end of it, or trying to convince go knows who that he is actually Robert Bruce through anonymous postings... when he's not denying that he's Peter Dunbar.
It's a little weird. Sure, you know he was never just what he pretended to be, but him dropping the pretense altogether and displaying full-out psychotic, observably dishonest, straight ahead trolling? More than a little disturbing.
This why we have to get this guy. He is a sicko. Once he is confronted he will be silenced forever and wont post here. We have seen this in the past remember Ottawa5? I think. The only thing I really want to do is deliver a letter to his living son explaining how screwed up his dad is and how screwed up his mom and whole family is. I want to do this in person so I can see the look on his kids face when he reads it. He is definitely a loser himself following in the footsteps of TheWho and never bothered to help out his own brother who is dead.
If we get this kids address I want it before we post his photo and information publically for all to see. This is the best week of my life!! Funny how he hasnt denied any of this.
How are we doing on linking up all his posts? Lets get moving!!
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he is now impersonating a 20 yr old by inventing a similar user name with a - at the end of it, or trying to convince go knows who that he is actually Robert Bruce through anonymous postings...
Such a crime. And you believed it. Hmm
when he's not denying that he's Peter Dunbar.
Quite the opposite. TheWho wants you to believe he is Pete. And you do!
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he is now impersonating a 20 yr old by inventing a similar user name with a - at the end of it, or trying to convince go knows who that he is actually Robert Bruce through anonymous postings...
Such a crime. And you believed it. Hmm
when he's not denying that he's Peter Dunbar.
Quite the opposite. TheWho wants you to believe he is Pete. And you do!
Yep. There should be a "d" at the end of "go," making the phrase "god knows who." Sorry you were confused?.
I've been told that people who harp on typos on the internet are wraiths sentenced by God to an eternity on the internet without their ability to reason, thus reducing them to vainly trying to devalue ideas or people they are offended by through that useless method. Hopefully, you’ve escaped that sad fate and are just kinda slow and ill-spirited.
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This is just going to play out like a Darth and Skywalker thing ,right?
Is "my name is Elvis", secretly the son of WHO?
I think this may end with a series of letters and links to Mr. Peter's associates which convey his connection to torture and murder, and his hilarious misadventures tormenting victims of abuse on a message board called fornits.
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This is just going to play out like a Darth and Skywalker thing ,right?
Is "my name is Elvis", secretly the son of WHO?
I think this may end with a series of letters and links to Mr. Peter's associates which convey his connection to torture and murder, and his hilarious misadventures tormenting victims of abuse on a message board called fornits.
I can attest to that. I am a survivor and he has abused me for years on fornits. I think he may have to do jail time for some of this.
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he is now impersonating a 20 yr old by inventing a similar user name with a - at the end of it, or trying to convince go knows who that he is actually Robert Bruce through anonymous postings...
Such a crime. And you believed it. Hmm
when he's not denying that he's Peter Dunbar.
Quite the opposite. TheWho wants you to believe he is Pete. And you do!
Yep. There should be a "d" at the end of "go," making the phrase "god knows who." Sorry you were confused?.
I've been told that people who harp on typos on the internet are wraiths sentenced by God to an eternity on the internet without their ability to reason, thus reducing them to vainly trying to devalue ideas or people they are offended by through that useless method. Hopefully, you’ve escaped that sad fate and are just kinda slow and ill-spirited.
And I've heard that someone who trys to over-psychoanalyze someone's play on words - a joke - into a vehicle for petty insults suffers a fate far worse! :D
Especially someone who runs around calling other human beings "it". Could that be you?
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This is just going to play out like a Darth and Skywalker thing ,right?
Is "my name is Elvis", secretly the son of WHO?
I think this may end with a series of letters and links to Mr. Peter's associates which convey his connection to torture and murder, and his hilarious misadventures tormenting victims of abuse on a message board called fornits.
I can attest to that. I am a survivor and he has abused me for years on fornits. I think he may have to do jail time for some of this.
^^Whooter^^ reduced to impersonating RB who he claims to be himself. Only a seriously DERANGED person thinks this way.
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This is just going to play out like a Darth and Skywalker thing ,right?
Is "my name is Elvis", secretly the son of WHO?
I think this may end with a series of letters and links to Mr. Peter's associates which convey his connection to torture and murder, and his hilarious misadventures tormenting victims of abuse on a message board called fornits.
No doubt! Might make for a good episode or two on CSI of the TTI! Maybe even a mini-series if we can find enough associates! :D
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Outstanding. TheWho has finally flipped his lid. Just wait till the next shoe drops, Whootie. You won't be laughing it off I assure you. See you soon!
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While we're posting links and all...
The paper trail... (http://http://www.expedition-outfitters.com/LHS/LHS_Page5.htm)
Here peter tells us he has a kid at ASR in 2002 and he seems very proud like it's a prep school. Oh yeah, it's his son, not his made-up daughter. He also tells us his employer (thanks, buddy) and his wife's full maiden name.
Here's another:
ASR Class of 2004 (http://http://www.classmates.com/directory/school/Swift%20River%20Academy?org=21174731)
Son was at ASR for a whopping four years. Set Whooter back plenty for something that didn't work at all.
And another:
Here he provides us his email address. (http://http://www.expedition-outfitters.com/LHS/LHS_Page4.htm)
Yet another:
A search of his email address gets us this... (http://http://www.trailjournals.com/gbookv.cfm?startat=16&trailname=2322) Here he is recruiting people to work at SUWS.
And who worked at SUWS when he sent his kid that he might be associated with?
Now works at Carlbrook which Whooter is quick to defend. (http://http://www.carlbrook.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=92)
This is more than just dredging New England for people named "Peter," Peter. This is a very distinct nexus, I'm afraid.
I have a bunch more, but I'll let some other people do some looking too. I'm sure they'll find even more.
Red motherfucking MEAT. Dude has totally spun out. Petey ANGRY!!
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Outstanding. TheWho has finally flipped his lid. Just wait till the next shoe drops, Whootie. You won't be laughing it off I assure you. See you soon!
Interesting. Elvis has been saying all along that Whooter is not Pete...
This looks like a complete switch in character. Should we believe him?
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Outstanding. TheWho has finally flipped his lid. Just wait till the next shoe drops, Whootie. You won't be laughing it off I assure you. See you soon!
Interesting. Elvis has been saying all along that Whooter is not Pete...
This looks like a complete switch in character. Should we believe him?
Nooooo, Whootie. We both know that's not true. You just impersonated me to throw off the dogs. These kids got you dead to rights and we both know that, don't we, Whootie? I know there are a lot of Elvis impersonators out there, but you're an unconvincing one, my boy.
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Why don't you tell the folks at home all about your vast knowledge of Calgary, Alberta, and Western Canada in general, Pedro? I know always enjoyed it when you spared a few minutes for the AARCSurvivors. I'm dying to hear more of your neo-liberal philosophy and how it relates to medical malpractise and fraud in Canada. How about some more anecdotes on your personal experiences in an array of situations entirely unrelated to adolescents being illegally incarcerated and subjected to quack therapy in Calgary? Thanks, awfully. The fact that you attempted but failed to complete your post-secondary studies might explain your insistence on backing the incoherent and unscientific AARC "success study" you so passionately defended. No, but seriously, your use of first year Stats terminology as though it were some arcane language in an effort to defend a dangerous fraud was pathetic and a disgrace. The honorable thing for you to do would be to retire to the drawing room with a single round in the old S & W.
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Outstanding. TheWho has finally flipped his lid. Just wait till the next shoe drops, Whootie. You won't be laughing it off I assure you. See you soon!
Interesting. Elvis has been saying all along that Whooter is not Pete...
This looks like a complete switch in character. Should we believe him?
Nooooo, Whootie. We both know that's not true. You just impersonated me to throw off the dogs. These kids got you dead to rights and we both know that, don't we, Whootie? I know there are a lot of Elvis impersonators out there, but you're an unconvincing one, my boy.
Nope. You got my name wrong (hint: not all words start uppercase). Go back and check the original posts.
I'm saying this the third and final time: you all are barking up the wrong tree. Whooter is NOT Pete Dunbar.
Don't say I didn't warn you when he leads you off a cliff with this one.
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Why don't you tell the folks at home all about your vast knowledge of Calgary, Alberta, and Western Canada in general, Pedro? I know always enjoyed it when you spared a few minutes for the AARCSurvivors. I'm dying to hear more of your neo-liberal philosophy and how it relates to medical malpractise and fraud in Canada. How about some more anecdotes on your personal experiences in an array of situations entirely unrelated to adolescents being illegally incarcerated and subjected to quack therapy in Calgary? Thanks, awfully. The fact that you attempted but failed to complete your post-secondary studies might explain your insistence on backing the incoherent and unscientific AARC "success study" you so passionately defended. No, but seriously, your use of first year Stats terminology as though it were some arcane language in an effort to defend a dangerous fraud was pathetic and a disgrace. The honorable thing for you to do would be to retire to the drawing room with a single round in the old S & W.
Neatly done! :notworthy:
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Outstanding. TheWho has finally flipped his lid. Just wait till the next shoe drops, Whootie. You won't be laughing it off I assure you. See you soon!
Interesting. Elvis has been saying all along that Whooter is not Pete...
This looks like a complete switch in character. Should we believe him?
Nooooo, Whootie. We both know that's not true. You just impersonated me to throw off the dogs. These kids got you dead to rights and we both know that, don't we, Whootie? I know there are a lot of Elvis impersonators out there, but you're an unconvincing one, my boy.
Nope. You got my name wrong (hint: not all words start uppercase). Go back and check the original posts.
I'm saying this the third and final time: you all are barking up the wrong tree. Whooter is NOT Pete Dunbar.
Don't say I didn't warn you when he leads you off a cliff with this one.
Elvis, that was Whooter trolling, dude. Can you get a username so we can keep you aprt from Who's trolling? That would be nice. Also, can you tell us what we're missing? I'm not sure of the purpose of your posts other than to shoo people off Dunbar. There are a lot of people here whom that guy victimized. Is there some compelling reason you can't help us here? Please, help us close our issues with this cyberbully. We've all been victimized by the teen hate industry and we have been emotionally abused here by the man calling himself TheWho. Why won't you help us?
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Outstanding. TheWho has finally flipped his lid. Just wait till the next shoe drops, Whootie. You won't be laughing it off I assure you. See you soon!
Interesting. Elvis has been saying all along that Whooter is not Pete...
This looks like a complete switch in character. Should we believe him?
Nooooo, Whootie. We both know that's not true. You just impersonated me to throw off the dogs. These kids got you dead to rights and we both know that, don't we, Whootie? I know there are a lot of Elvis impersonators out there, but you're an unconvincing one, my boy.
Nope. You got my name wrong (hint: not all words start uppercase). Go back and check the original posts.
I'm saying this the third and final time: you all are barking up the wrong tree. Whooter is NOT Pete Dunbar.
Don't say I didn't warn you when he leads you off a cliff with this one.
Elvis, that was Whooter trolling, dude. Can you get a username so we can keep you aprt from Who's trolling? That would be nice. Also, can you tell us what we're missing? I'm not sure of the purpose of your posts other than to shoo people off Dunbar. There are a lot of people here whom that guy victimized. Is there some compelling reason you can't help us here? Please, help us close our issues with this cyberbully. We've all been victimized by the teen hate industry and we have been emotionally abused here by the man calling himself TheWho. Why won't you help us?
the who is, supposedly, Peter H Dunbar (978) 468-4691 37 Crescent Rd, South Hamilton, MA 01982
If the above is wrong, chris, then stop the innuendos and just say what his name is, out right. You aren't dealing with the Pentagon, giving thewho's won't get you shot in a back alley. Speak plainly or be considered, fairly, yet another worthless troll.
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There are a lot of people here whom that guy victimized. Is there some compelling reason you can't help us here? Please, help us close our issues with this cyberbully. We've all been victimized by the teen hate industry and we have been emotionally abused here by the man calling himself TheWho. Why won't you help us?
BooHoo, cry me a river Brucie. You spent 2 weeks at HLA and now if someone calls you a name you feel victimized and hide behind the survivor banner. How about all those people who spent years inside these places. You are the biggest wooose I have ever seen.
"Your honor, I have been emotionally abused by TheWho. I logged on and he would kick my butt emotionally by winning every argument. This on top of spending 14 horrible days inside a gulag called HLA. No one has had to endure what I had to, no one understands me. I want damages....."
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I wrote that post, not RB, Who, you vicious and creul fuck.
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the who is, supposedly, Peter H Dunbar (978) 468-4691 37 Crescent Rd, South Hamilton, MA 01982
If the above is wrong, chris, then stop the innuendos and just say what his name is, out right. You aren't dealing with the Pentagon, giving thewho's won't get you shot in a back alley. Speak plainly or be considered, fairly, yet another worthless troll.
Oh, boy here we go again. I feel sorry for this guy. You had to go posting his name and phone number on the open forum. We should link him up with Alan Newman and they can scratch their heads together wondering how they got involved in all of this.
Have fun!!
Hey, South Hamilton is a nice area by the way.
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I wrote that post, not RB, Who, you vicious and creul fuck.
Nice deflection try Brucie, go feed the dogs, I hear them barking. (low level 1/10)
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BooHoo, cry me a river Brucie. You spent 2 weeks at HLA and now if someone calls you a name you feel victimized and hide behind the survivor banner. How about all those people who spent years inside these places. You are the biggest wooose I have ever seen.
"Your honor, I have been emotionally abused by TheWho. I logged on and he would kick my butt emotionally by winning every argument. This on top of spending 14 horrible days inside a gulag called HLA. No one has had to endure what I had to, no one understands me. I want damages....."
Oh Petey, didn't you hear? Buchi finally paid out! I am getting damages!
So if you're done talking to yourself there are questions that still need to be answered.
Is your son Mike Dunbar dead or alive?
My vote is that he's dead. Still not my claim, (thanks again for proving that) but I believe it.
Oh also my guest posts have been linked up, there just wasnt enough to add to make a difference. You pretending to be a admin doesnt affect that. Your turn!
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I'm saying this the third and final time: you all are barking up the wrong tree. Whooter is NOT Pete Dunbar.
Don't say I didn't warn you when he leads you off a cliff with this one.
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I know you hate this Peter, but you're finally going to accept some respondsibility for your actions. No more hiding.
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Elvis, does MJR mean anything to you?
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BooHoo, cry me a river Brucie. You spent 2 weeks at HLA and now if someone calls you a name you feel victimized and hide behind the survivor banner. How about all those people who spent years inside these places. You are the biggest wooose I have ever seen.
"Your honor, I have been emotionally abused by TheWho. I logged on and he would kick my butt emotionally by winning every argument. This on top of spending 14 horrible days inside a gulag called HLA. No one has had to endure what I had to, no one understands me. I want damages....."
Oh Petey, didn't you hear? Buchi finally paid out! I am getting damages!
Oh, I believe you, Brucie. I read about people like you every day. Riding on the backs of others. You will probably blow it all in two months and then start crying about how society let you down and you will be looking for another hand out or someone else to sue and somehow justify your life to others and to yourself.
Believe me you are not that unique, Bruce.
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It's nice to see you're finally acknowledging you lied and made up your claim about my being in HLA for only two weeks. Apology accepted Peter, this is a big step for you. I kept telling I was in there for about a year, I'm glad you've finally come to accept that. Good for you sport!
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Oh also my guest posts have been linked up, there just wasnt enough to add to make a difference. You pretending to be a admin doesnt affect that. Your turn!
Looks like we are all set. They finished mine up this morning, just before yours.
I notice you are still back pedaling on the Dunbar facts...... trying to pass it off on Elvis still? Ha,Ha,Ha somethings never change. You got egg on your face and dont even know it yet... You use to step back and let DJ take the hits now your all alone.
I've been enjoying this one, Bruce.
As far as your stay at HLA we all know it was 2 weeks (I guess some may say it is close to a year or maybe it just felt like it? Ha,Ha,Ha), but we acknowledge you as a survivor. Dont worry your classification is still valid, Bruce.
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Let me end this for you, douchbag.
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/homep ... -addiction (http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/homepage/x72907923/Dad-helps-others-after-sons-struggle-with-addiction)
Boom. Done.
John Ruben of Save Teens in Crisis Collaboration, P.O. Box 441363, West Somerville, MA 02144.
Notice how this single thread goes untrolled by Whooter.
http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=26615 (http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=26615)
Are these the two sons that Elvis was talking about?
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I read about people like you every day. Riding on the backs of others. You will probably blow it all in two months and then start crying about how society let you down and you will be looking for another hand out or someone else to sue and somehow justify your life to others and to yourself.
I just realized how ironic this is since it's not only coming from a trust fund baby, but one who was recently demoted at work due to incompetence.
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John D. Reuben, aka "The Who" (http://http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=713946382)
Vice President of Sales and Marketing
Correlsense Ltd.
Manager, Worldwide Sales and Marketing Operations
Correlsense Ltd.
Vice President Sales, North America
Prolify Inc
Vice President of Sales and Marketing
Kintana , Inc.
Worldwide Sales Director
Oracle Corporation
Sales and Sales Management Positions
Andersen Consulting
Most importantly:
Board Member
Saving Teens
Founder
Saving Teens
Two sons, one dead from an O.D. Attended ASR.
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http://www.taxexemptworld.com/organization.asp?tn=13885 (http://www.taxexemptworld.com/organization.asp?tn=13885)
And sucking from the public teat as a nonprofit, to boot. Whooter's trust fund has been turned into program pimping in overdrive and he's got a dead kid to show for it.
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Alan Newman
to
Peter Dunbar
to
John Rueban
Beautiful, Bruce... keep it going. What does your gut think now? Keep back pedaling!! You can edit your posts if you like to save face. You were hoping for another potential lawsuit to keep you sitting at home for a few more weeks. Sorry to spoil your summer, looks like you will have to work.
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Looks like we are all set. They finished mine up this morning, just before yours.
I notice you are still back pedaling on the Dunbar facts...... trying to pass it off on Elvis still? Ha,Ha,Ha somethings never change. You got egg on your face and dont even know it yet... You use to step back and let DJ take the hits now your all alone.
I've been enjoying this one, Bruce.
As far as your stay at HLA we all know it was 2 weeks (I guess some may say it is close to a year or maybe it just felt like it? Ha,Ha,Ha), but we acknowledge you as a survivor. Dont worry your classification is still valid, Bruce.
Well....the attorney's didnt think I was there for two weeks, hence why I was counted among the plantiffs. I'm sure you think you know more then others, but honestly Pete, when has that ever happened? Ever? While you're dodging that please by all means post my back peddaling. Just because you had to put your foot in your mouth again isnt cause to blame me. You accused me of originating the claim that your son killed himself. You claimed I was the one who first mentioned his name. I proved you wrong on both counts. Do you need to see the links again? Let me know Peter.
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I'm not Bruce. I'm the guy who just blew up your tiny world, John. I couldn't watch the flailing anymore, so I helped these kids out. Now they know and you know they know.
Bruce, you're missing the point. Don't argue with John.
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Let me end this for you, douchbag.
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/homep ... -addiction (http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/homepage/x72907923/Dad-helps-others-after-sons-struggle-with-addiction)
Boom. Done.
John Ruben of Save Teens in Crisis Collaboration, P.O. Box 441363, West Somerville, MA 02144.
Notice how this single thread goes untrolled by Whooter.
http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=26615 (http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=26615)
Are these the two sons that Elvis was talking about?
Ouch!
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http://www.bbb.org/charity-reviews/bost ... ry-ma-6234 (http://www.bbb.org/charity-reviews/boston/toc/saving-teens-in-crisis-collaborative-inc-in-sudbury-ma-6234)
Remember when Whootie said "You're not even in the right county"? This is what he meant. South Hamilton is Essex
County and Whootie lives in Middelsex County.
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Looks like we are all set. They finished mine up this morning, just before yours.
No Peter, youre still Peter H. Dunbar of 37 Crescent Rd South Hamilton MA 01982.
Would you like your phone number posted as well?
And....what's this.....oh this explains a lot. I told you Ellen was like that. I'll see if I cant put this to good use and fill in some more holes.
While I'm doing that go ahead and get the posting you made where you asked Psy to link all your guest postings. Since you dont have a useraccount you must have done it on the public forum. Link to it.
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I'm not Bruce. I'm the guy who just blew up your tiny world, John. I couldn't watch the flailing anymore, so I helped these kids out. Now they know and you know they know.
"help these kids out"? you sound like that Elvis wannabe. could someone please post pics of Peter Dunbar? Thanks
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Are you saying thewho is not Peter Dunbar?....OH NO. I KILLED AN INNOCENT MAN!
Oh, wait. He locked his son in the Academy at Swift River cultic-gulag for 3 years. His death was deserved.
OK. Off to shoot this John Rueban fella. See ya.
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(http://http://www.dunbarconsultants.com/images/team/dunbar.jpg)
Well there's ol Gran Dad. Let's see if we can't find Junior.
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Looks like we are all set. They finished mine up this morning, just before yours.
No Peter, youre still Peter H. Dunbar of 37 Crescent Rd South Hamilton MA 01982.
Would you like your phone number posted as well?
And....what's this.....oh this explains a lot. I told you Ellen was like that. I'll see if I cant put this to good use and fill in some more holes.
While I'm doing that go ahead and get the posting you made where you asked Psy to link all your guest postings. Since you dont have a useraccount you must have done it on the public forum. Link to it.
Ha,Ha,Ha Keep believing Brucie... Maybe you can still get your UPS shipment reversed. Or at least rerouted to John Rueban maybe?
Oh, Brucie you really screwed this up again. I dont think crying wolf three times will have as much effect.
As far as my posts go I am all set, check with psy, if he missed any that you think are mine you can talk about it. But for the most part they have been linked up. Go back and look.
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(http://http://www.dunbarconsultants.com/images/team/dunbar.jpg)
Well there's ol Gran Dad. Let's see if we can't find Junior.
um this looks like DON Dunbar education consultant. Where are the pics of PETER? Are they brothers?
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Then link to it.
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Then link to it.
J.C. why are you sure thwhore is Pete Dunbar? Anything "evidence"? Not saying he is not....
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John D. Reuben, aka "The Who" (http://http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=713946382)
Vice President of Sales and Marketing
Correlsense Ltd.
Manager, Worldwide Sales and Marketing Operations
Correlsense Ltd.
Vice President Sales, North America
Prolify Inc
Vice President of Sales and Marketing
Kintana , Inc.
Worldwide Sales Director
Oracle Corporation
Sales and Sales Management Positions
Andersen Consulting
Most importantly:
Board Member
Saving Teens
Founder
Saving Teens
Two sons, one dead from an O.D. Attended ASR.
RB, don't you get why he's not mentioning this???
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 062&sc=249 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/21/MNREUBENMI33.DTL&hw=collaborator&sn=062&sc=249)
Here's the obit he's been demanding.
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I see Whooter intentionally misspelled John D. Reuben's name. Wonder why he'd do that? :deal:
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Why was Whooter so interested in HLA?
John Reuben posted 4/26/04 5:01 PM
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I just enrolled my son there and am interested in contacting any other parents who have children there or have had kids there. Have heard good and bad but was very impressed when I went down there. My son had not thrived either at home or in a normal boarding school environment.
http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php? ... ben#p57497 (http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=3368&p=57497&hilit=john+reuben#p57497)
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Why was Whooter so interested in HLA?
John Reuben posted 4/26/04 5:01 PM
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I just enrolled my son there and am interested in contacting any other parents who have children there or have had kids there. Have heard good and bad but was very impressed when I went down there. My son had not thrived either at home or in a normal boarding school environment.
http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php? ... ben#p57497 (http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=3368&p=57497&hilit=john+reuben#p57497)
"As Bruces stomach turns"
On our last episode:
Bruce has to make a decision. He put all his chips in with Peter D. and even sent him a package. But this guy John Reuban looks like a better fit..."Hmmm should I back pedal like TheWho has been saying I would do all along or stick with this Peter guy even though it is looking more like he is not TheWho.
Lose face or stick with a sinking ship?"
To be continued......
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John Reuben is TheWho. His son, Mike, took his life last year by overdosing on heroin after moving out to Arizona on his own. He didn't speak to his father for years, moved away and shot himself up til he croaked. ASR didn't "fix" him as John Hoped. It made him worse in fact. So bad he's dead now. All of us friends of Mike blame this mostly on his dad who wouldn't get him the real help he needed. Instead he just kept putting Mikey in programs, one after another until Mikey was 18 and could get away from his dad. RIP, Mike.
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Then link to it.
Come on Peter, I'm not letting you off the hook.
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Then link to it.
Come on Peter, I'm not letting you off the hook.
You just responded to your own post again. You are not letting yourself off the hook for not linking to the obit? Doesnt make sense. Just link to the info that you have that supports your decision. Seems pretty benign to me. Its public info, either you have it or you dont.
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Bruce has to make a decision. He put all his chips in with Peter D. and even sent him a package. But this guy John Reuban looks like a better fit..."Hmmm should I back pedal like TheWho has been saying I would do all along or stick with this Peter guy even though it is looking more like he is not TheWho.
Lose face or stick with a sinking ship?"
To be continued......
Rumplestiltskin, you lost the game when he said your name. The drawing room and oblivion awaits.
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Bruce has to make a decision. He put all his chips in with Peter D. and even sent him a package. But this guy John Reuban looks like a better fit..."Hmmm should I back pedal like TheWho has been saying I would do all along or stick with this Peter guy even though it is looking more like he is not TheWho.
Lose face or stick with a sinking ship?"
To be continued......
Rumplestiltskin, you lost the game when he said your name. The drawing room and oblivion awaits.
Ahhh, Brothers Grimm was my favorite, Ajax, but remember the tale. In Ruplestiltskin The reason the queen had to give up her daughter was because she was a liar. She was the initial antagonist looking for an easy way out of her lie (listen closely Ajax.). She made a bad deal... similar to our mutual friend here Bruce who has made a bad choice and needs to find a solution like the queen did..... Remember his dance around the fire?
Hint: Which one fits the rhyme the best (no need to know iambic pentameter but maybe ABAB scheme)
"To-day do I bake, to-morrow I brew,
The day after that the queen's child comes in;
And oh! I am glad that nobody knew
That the name I am called is TheWho!"
"To-day do I bake, to-morrow I brew,
The day after that the queen's child comes in;
And oh! I am glad that nobody knew
That the name I am called is John Reuben!"
"To-day do I bake, to-morrow I brew,
The day after that the queen's child comes in;
And oh! I am glad that nobody knew
That the name I am called is Peter Dunbar
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John Reuben is TheWho. His son, Mike, took his life last year by overdosing on heroin after moving out to Arizona on his own. He didn't speak to his father for years, moved away and shot himself up til he croaked. ASR didn't "fix" him as John Hoped. It made him worse in fact. So bad he's dead now. All of us friends of Mike blame this mostly on his dad who wouldn't get him the real help he needed. Instead he just kept putting Mikey in programs, one after another until Mikey was 18 and could get away from his dad. RIP, Mike.
:roflmao: Again this fucktard trolls me. Do you have Elvis-envy or something? Get a life, dude.
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You just responded to your own post again. You are not letting yourself off the hook for not linking to the obit? Doesnt make sense. Just link to the info that you have that supports your decision. Seems pretty benign to me. Its public info, either you have it or you dont
Have what Peter?
Now show me your post giving Psy permission to link your guest postings. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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You just responded to your own post again. You are not letting yourself off the hook for not linking to the obit? Doesnt make sense. Just link to the info that you have that supports your decision. Seems pretty benign to me. Its public info, either you have it or you dont
Have what Peter?
Now show me your post giving Psy permission to link your guest postings. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
I told you the posts were linked. When are yours getting done?
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Sounds like another back-pedal on the part of RobertBruce. Let's see RobertBruce's anonymous posts! Hey, let's see who links up to ALL the anonymous posts on this whole thread. That ought to be REALLY interesting! :seg:
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Ahhh, Brothers Grimm was my favorite, Ajax, but remember the tale. In Ruplestiltskin The reason the queen had to give up her daughter was because she was a liar. She was the initial antagonist looking for an easy way out of her lie (listen closely Ajax.). She made a bad deal... similar to our mutual friend here Bruce who has made a bad choice and needs to find a solution like the queen did..... Remember his dance around the fire?
Hint: Which one fits the rhyme the best (no need to know iambic pentameter but maybe ABAB scheme)
"To-day do I bake, to-morrow I brew,
The day after that the queen's child comes in;
And oh! I am glad that nobody knew
That the name I am called is TheWho!"
"To-day do I bake, to-morrow I brew,
The day after that the queen's child comes in;
And oh! I am glad that nobody knew
That the name I am called is John Reuben!"
"To-day do I bake, to-morrow I brew,
The day after that the queen's child comes in;
And oh! I am glad that nobody knew
That the name I am called is Peter Dunbar
We all took grade seven English, you pretentious felcher. Once again, your condescending attempt to appear learned has just served to make you more pathetic. Does your knowledge of english rhyme schemes equal your knowledge of Canadian geography, Pete the drop-out?
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We all took grade seven English, you pretentious felcher. Once again, your condescending attempt to appear learned has just served to make you more pathetic. Does your knowledge of english rhyme schemes equal your knowledge of Canadian geography, Pete the drop-out?
I was not being pretentious. I enjoyed the Grimm tales when I was young. Still didn’t get it though, tisk,tisk. It appears you skipped that grade or dropped out extremely early. ABAB would match rhyme schemem # 2. (1st and 3rd, 2nd and 4th lines ryhme with each other) As to your other question I would say my knowledge of rhyme schemes is stronger than my knowledge of Canadian geography, although rhyme schemes are not one of my strengths at all. Now that you bring it up, I wonder why the schools would focus more time on teaching Europe and Asia ahead of Canada? Very little was taught about Canada in the school I attended. Mexico, central and south America were all covered also in depth. You pose a good question.
I also noticed you chose Peter (the drop out) as your choice. So we have 2 for Peter and 2 for John. Thanks for taking time out in your AARC forum, Ajax.
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I told you the posts were linked. When are yours getting done?
Then show where you made the posting to Psy giving him permission to link to your guest posts. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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I told you the posts were linked. When are yours getting done?
Then show where you made the posting to Psy giving him permission to link to your guest posts. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
I would not expect to be let off the hook. Especially considering the number times I had to hold your feet to the fire to gain accountability or reverse a lie on your part. As I had told you my posts were already linked up. What we are all waiting for are your posts to be done. Show us where psy gave you the confirmation when your posts are completed and we will take a look at them.
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You will find this interesting, Ithink. (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903)
RB, were your parents referred to HLA by Martha Kolbe by any chance?
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**crickets** Where did TheWho go? He was on fire for two weeks straight, posting some 300 entries. Why did he go dark all of a suddeen? Wasn't he begging for his son's obit to be posted just yesterday?
I'd like some help with searching TheWho's posts. A compilation reflective of his attitude here should be sent to all of the programs, parents, .gov's, etc. that do business with SavingTeens.org to illuminate the true character of this charitable Machine feeder.
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OK, small confession here. I knew before that Peter Dunbar isn't TheWho. I told RobertBruce that he was so that Robert would get TheWho all whipped up into a frenzy because he knows he's not Pete Dunbar. I wanted TheWho to feel very confident and sure that he was 'safe' in anonymity. I wanted him to be on a high from leading RB and others around by the nose, knowing he wouldn't be on the hook.
It worked. TheWho posted over 300 times in his excited frenzy to dominate RB and others, which was the situation I set up. I almost literally controlled his thoughts and actions for several weeks.
Then last night I dropped the A-bomb on him, linked to his son's obit and outed him as John D. Reuben of SavingTeens.org.
Last night he tried to divert attention and make fum of this latest 'outing' but he soon realized he was stuck in a very STICCy situation. And now he disappeared.
I just wanted to say sorry to RobertBruce for inciting TheWho to attack him. RB did nothing wrong and, in fact, all of the posts that TheWho tried to tie to RB were in fact mine. So, I'm sorry RB for your unwitting participation in my exposing of TheWho. I hope that now knowing 'who' your tormentor is will help you get past how he's sullied your name here.
And to TheWho: Fuck you.
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This thread can now R.I.P. The riddle is solved.
TheWho's True Identity (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903)
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OK, small confession here. I knew before that Peter Dunbar isn't TheWho. I told RobertBruce that he was so that Robert would get TheWho all whipped up into a frenzy because he knows he's not Pete Dunbar. I wanted TheWho to feel very confident and sure that he was 'safe' in anonymity. I wanted him to be on a high from leading RB and others around by the nose, knowing he wouldn't be on the hook.
It worked. TheWho posted over 300 times in his excited frenzy to dominate RB and others, which was the situation I set up. I almost literally controlled his thoughts and actions for several weeks.
Then last night I dropped the A-bomb on him, linked to his son's obit and outed him as John D. Reuben of SavingTeens.org.
Last night he tried to divert attention and make fum of this latest 'outing' but he soon realized he was stuck in a very STICCy situation. And now he disappeared.
I just wanted to say sorry to RobertBruce for inciting TheWho to attack him. RB did nothing wrong and, in fact, all of the posts that TheWho tried to tie to RB were in fact mine. So, I'm sorry RB for your unwitting participation in my exposing of TheWho. I hope that now knowing 'who' your tormentor is will help you get past how he's sullied your name here.
And to TheWho: Fuck you.
LOLOLOL. Quoted for overblown ego. You know, and I know, that you are full of shit. You knew nothing, you were as clueless as they come. I say link up the IP with IDs on this thread and we'll see who has to inflate himself so big!! Unbelievable.
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Not true at all. I see you also say "were clueless" thereby confirming the facts laid out. Thanks. If this makes you feel better then that's fine with me.
I just wanted to let everyone know that manipulated RobertBruce into posting what he did. He didn't know it wasn't true, but he now does and had my apology.
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I would not expect to be let off the hook.
Your past of avoidance and refusing to acknowlege the truth suggest otherwise. But if that is the case then you shouldn't have any problem showing us the post you made asking Psy to link all of your guest posts together.
Especially considering the number times I had to hold your feet to the fire to gain accountability
[citation needed]
or reverse a lie on your part
[citation needed]
As I had told you my posts were already linked up
Under which user name?
What we are all waiting for are your posts to be done. Show us where psy gave you the confirmation when your posts are completed and we will take a look at them.
You'll have to ask him the exact time. As I explained to you I very seldom post without logging in. That being the case any additions would be negligble, and no recent posts or any on this board would be attached to my user name. Of course once you stop being a coward and have your posts linked together I'm sure a great deal more will become clear. Espeically the part about how you spend most of your day on here arguing with yourself, and still losing.
Did you need to see the links where I asked Psy to link my guest posts? I'd be glad to show them to you Petey.
Meanwhile where is the post where you gave Psy permission to link up your posts? I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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You missed alot today, Bruce. you should take some time to read before making a fool of yourself again. You have been trolled by Elvis, go back and read it. He is not Petey anymore it is now John. read next thread down.
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I read it, I'll post in a few minutes after I look at some more evidence.
Regardless though I'm more interested in holding Peter accountable then which disciple he was named after. I get a huge thrill out of knowing how I enrage this guy, getting him all worked up and flustered, proving him wrong time and time again.
Even if I'm wrong on his name, (I'm still not convinced) someone else will expose him, i'll admit it if I'm wrong, and Peter will still be exposed and impotent as always. At the end of the day shutting this guy down, and by proxy saving kids lives is what matters most.
Elvis pm'd me and showed me some more evidence. I'll take a look at it and go from there. For Peter though the charge remains the same:
Show the post you made giving Psy permission to link all your guest posts. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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I read it, I'll post in a few minutes after I look at some more evidence.
Regardless though I'm more interested in holding Peter accountable then which disciple he was named after. I get a huge thrill out of knowing how I enrage this guy, getting him all worked up and flustered, proving him wrong time and time again.
Even if I'm wrong on his name, (I'm still not convinced) someone else will expose him, i'll admit it if I'm wrong, and Peter will still be exposed and impotent as always. At the end of the day shutting this guy down, and by proxy saving kids lives is what matters most.
Elvis pm'd me and showed me some more evidence. I'll take a look at it and go from there. For Peter though the charge remains the same:
Show the post you made giving Psy permission to link all your guest posts. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
Waiting for yours to be done, Bruce. Boy you were trolled badly... still calling me peter Ha,Ha,Ha how many NAMBLA packets you have left in your closet. You should send a new one out after you are done reading. I can tell when you are pissed when you boast about how you prove everyone wrong all the time...... ya gotta love this place Brucey... do you feel like a hockey puck.?.
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OK, small confession here. I knew before that Peter Dunbar isn't TheWho. I told RobertBruce that he was so that Robert would get TheWho all whipped up into a frenzy because he knows he's not Pete Dunbar. I wanted TheWho to feel very confident and sure that he was 'safe' in anonymity. I wanted him to be on a high from leading RB and others around by the nose, knowing he wouldn't be on the hook.
It worked. TheWho posted over 300 times in his excited frenzy to dominate RB and others, which was the situation I set up. I almost literally controlled his thoughts and actions for several weeks.
Then last night I dropped the A-bomb on him, linked to his son's obit and outed him as John D. Reuben of SavingTeens.org.
Last night he tried to divert attention and make fum of this latest 'outing' but he soon realized he was stuck in a very STICCy situation. And now he disappeared.
I just wanted to say sorry to RobertBruce for inciting TheWho to attack him. RB did nothing wrong and, in fact, all of the posts that TheWho tried to tie to RB were in fact mine. So, I'm sorry RB for your unwitting participation in my exposing of TheWho. I hope that now knowing 'who' your tormentor is will help you get past how he's sullied your name here.
And to TheWho: Fuck you.
This is funny, but not exactly true. Robert did tell me he was researching some people and mentioned "Pete Dunbar" to me before any of this nonsense started. He also did not throw out "John D. Reuben." That guy was not even on his radar.
Both of these men fit the "profile," if you will, to the T. Both have two sons, both put their sons through SUWS and ASR and at least one of those sons is dead, deep connections to "the industry," etc. I believe the Dunbar boy actually went by his mother's maiden name, Sutcliffe, though, according to Robert.
Here's what really hits me: There seem to be a lot of dead kids around the true-blue program supporters like Mr. Dunbar and Mr. Reuben. It seems like if one kept turning over rocks, one would find a pile of dead kids around this circle of deeply connected "true believers." One thing they have in common is dead kids.
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One thing they have in common is dead kids.
Quoted for truth.
No wonder there's so many attempts to change the focus. They're afraid of prosecution. But more than that, they're afraid of their own guilt.
Hey, Who, do you really think trolling equals resurrection?
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OK, small confession here. I knew before that Peter Dunbar isn't TheWho. I told RobertBruce that he was so that Robert would get TheWho all whipped up into a frenzy because he knows he's not Pete Dunbar. I wanted TheWho to feel very confident and sure that he was 'safe' in anonymity. I wanted him to be on a high from leading RB and others around by the nose, knowing he wouldn't be on the hook.
It worked. TheWho posted over 300 times in his excited frenzy to dominate RB and others, which was the situation I set up. I almost literally controlled his thoughts and actions for several weeks.
Then last night I dropped the A-bomb on him, linked to his son's obit and outed him as John D. Reuben of SavingTeens.org.
Last night he tried to divert attention and make fum of this latest 'outing' but he soon realized he was stuck in a very STICCy situation. And now he disappeared.
I just wanted to say sorry to RobertBruce for inciting TheWho to attack him. RB did nothing wrong and, in fact, all of the posts that TheWho tried to tie to RB were in fact mine. So, I'm sorry RB for your unwitting participation in my exposing of TheWho. I hope that now knowing 'who' your tormentor is will help you get past how he's sullied your name here.
And to TheWho: Fuck you.
This is funny, but not exactly true. Robert did tell me he was researching some people and mentioned "Pete Dunbar" to me before any of this nonsense started. He also did not throw out "John D. Reuben." That guy was not even on his radar.
Both of these men fit the "profile," if you will, to the T. Both have two sons, both put their sons through SUWS and ASR and at least one of those sons is dead, deep connections to "the industry," etc. I believe the Dunbar boy actually went by his mother's maiden name, Sutcliffe, though, according to Robert.
Here's what really hits me: There seem to be a lot of dead kids around the true-blue program supporters like Mr. Dunbar and Mr. Reuben. It seems like if one kept turning over rocks, one would find a pile of dead kids around this circle of deeply connected "true believers." One thing they have in common is dead kids.
Classic. It doesn't get much better than this. Mental health professional responding to his own post. Admins should have a field day with this.
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John David Reuben of STICC and SavingTeens.org
Dunbar EdCon services
If these are true WHO’s or even just TTI pimps let’s have some of all of them. Let’s hash out the facts without muddling the message and have it all out and out loud.
Any additional names and facts of the offenders crimes against the youths of the nation should be listed,one by one.
WHO gives a fuck what fucks like WHO get in the mail?
I do to
Let's give each of them there own threads and string 'em up there.They'll have to get tangled up in their own lies and lies and lies about themselves under the topic on their own names
...and somebody somewhere mentioned an Allen as a third ? Who's that guy and what's the story.
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"Revenge Fantasy Girlz," meet "RobertBruces." :roflmao: :guesswho:
trolling himself now???
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"Revenge Fantasy Girlz," meet "RobertBruces." :roflmao: :guesswho:
trolling himself now???
Bruce has really hit bottom.
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I can tell when you are pissed when you boast about how you prove everyone wrong all the time......
What makes you think I'm mad Petey? Besides, the only person I've proven wrong recently has been you. :seg:
do you feel like a hockey puck.?.
Not at all Peter. But going from your post, it appears you feel exactly that way
I have suffered more abuse than any of you, through the name calling and harassment
Aww little Petey can dish it but he can't take it.
Now Peter, where is the post you claim you made where you gave Psy permission to link up all your guest posts. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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"Revenge Fantasy Girlz," meet "RobertBruces." :roflmao: :guesswho:
trolling himself now???
Bruce has really hit bottom.
Hey,Pete how do you explain that he and I are currently logged in at the same time?
Bruce just start a thread with everything you know about this thing and punk his ass out there.
The point of "outing' them is that they can't hide as WHO or Guest ,with their own names to "defend right?
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"Revenge Fantasy Girlz," meet "RobertBruces." :roflmao: :guesswho:
trolling himself now???
Bruce has really hit bottom.
Hey,Pete how do you explain that he and I are currently logged in at the same time?
Bruce just start a thread with everything you know about this thing and punk his ass out there.
The point of "outing' them is that they can't hide as WHO or Guest ,with their own names to "defend right?
Wrong, I just checked and you are not both logged in. nice try though, Bruce.
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He still can't accept that he's the only one who needs to play these games, because no one supports him.
RFG how would you feel about me asking you out on a date? I'll pick you up here say 7:00 EST?
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He still can't accept that he's the only one who needs to play these games, because no one supports him.
We will see after you get your posts linked up.
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Uh, not to burst your bubble here, Whootie, but Psy already said he isn't going to do the work, even after it was offered to be paid for, so it ain't gonna happen. And Whootie delights in this because he knows he's on the short end of it.
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Uh, not to burst your bubble here, Whootie, but Psy already said he isn't going to do the work, even after it was offered to be paid for, so it ain't gonna happen. And Whootie delights in this because he knows he's on the short end of it.
I am fine with it, no bubbles are burst. I think Bruce is the one that is going to get heart burn over the whole thing.
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No, he won't. None of the guest posts are his. He knows that and would love have his and your posts linked, but Psy won't do it.
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I don't see Psy posting about this. Says a lot about the credibility factor here.
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No, he won't. None of the guest posts are his. He knows that and would love have his and your posts linked, but Psy won't do it.
Well, thats good then. It seems we are all happy. win, win!
I don't see Psy posting about this. Says a lot about the credibility factor here.
I agree, but I have never put much credibility in Bruce anyway so it doesnt have much effect on me, personally.
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Translation: "I don't want my "Brucie Fucks Dogs" and "Brucie Has Gay Issues" posts tied to my username, so this is a win for me, The Whooter.
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I don't see Psy posting about this. Says a lot about the credibility factor here.
Uh, he told you this already in your thread, Whootie. Go back and read for comprehension this time.
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I don't see Psy posting about this. Says a lot about the credibility factor here.
Uh, he told you this already in your thread, Whootie. Go back and read for comprehension this time.
So it seems Bruces nor Whooties posts are going to be linked up. Can everyone comprehend? :beat: ::deadhorse::
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OK, small confession here. I knew before that Peter Dunbar isn't TheWho. I told RobertBruce that he was so that Robert would get TheWho all whipped up into a frenzy because he knows he's not Pete Dunbar. I wanted TheWho to feel very confident and sure that he was 'safe' in anonymity. I wanted him to be on a high from leading RB and others around by the nose, knowing he wouldn't be on the hook.
It worked. TheWho posted over 300 times in his excited frenzy to dominate RB and others, which was the situation I set up. I almost literally controlled his thoughts and actions for several weeks.
Then last night I dropped the A-bomb on him, linked to his son's obit and outed him as John D. Reuben of SavingTeens.org.
Last night he tried to divert attention and make fum of this latest 'outing' but he soon realized he was stuck in a very STICCy situation. And now he disappeared.
I just wanted to say sorry to RobertBruce for inciting TheWho to attack him. RB did nothing wrong and, in fact, all of the posts that TheWho tried to tie to RB were in fact mine. So, I'm sorry RB for your unwitting participation in my exposing of TheWho. I hope that now knowing 'who' your tormentor is will help you get past how he's sullied your name here.
And to TheWho: Fuck you.
This is funny, but not exactly true. Robert did tell me he was researching some people and mentioned "Pete Dunbar" to me before any of this nonsense started. He also did not throw out "John D. Reuben." That guy was not even on his radar.
Both of these men fit the "profile," if you will, to the T. Both have two sons, both put their sons through SUWS and ASR and at least one of those sons is dead, deep connections to "the industry," etc. I believe the Dunbar boy actually went by his mother's maiden name, Sutcliffe, though, according to Robert.
Here's what really hits me: There seem to be a lot of dead kids around the true-blue program supporters like Mr. Dunbar and Mr. Reuben. It seems like if one kept turning over rocks, one would find a pile of dead kids around this circle of deeply connected "true believers." One thing they have in common is dead kids.
qft
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The main thing is that everyone has been enjoying themselves over the past several days. Its summer and if you dont enjoy the time you spend here on fornits but you keep coming back then it is self inflicted abuse (dont try to blame anyone else). Try to enjoy the time you have here on fornits. :peace:
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Here's what really hits me: There seem to be a lot of dead kids around the true-blue program supporters like Mr. Dunbar and Mr. Reuben. It seems like if one kept turning over rocks, one would find a pile of dead kids around this circle of deeply connected "true believers." One thing they have in common is dead kids.
QFT
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What does Quantum field theory have to do with any of this?
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What does Quantum field theory have to do with any of this?
I don’t get that either. Chaos theory might apply.
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What does Quantum field theory have to do with any of this?
I don't get that either. Chaos theory might apply.
I think DJ was thinking of crop circles, or ringworm.
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What does Quantum field theory have to do with any of this?
I don't get that either. Chaos theory might apply.
I think DJ was thinking of crop circles, or ringworm[/size].
Just like a narcissist to assume everyone’s thinking of you.
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I think what they are trying to say is that since 2 kids attended ASR and one committed suicide then we should look at all program parents to see if their kids are alive. Someone mentioned that Bruce wasn’t the brightest tool in the shed. I think Dysfunction Junction needs to be honed also. There is probably a stronger possibility that most suicide victims ate fast food in the days prior to their death, so fast food is probably the leading cause of suicide based on DJ’s logic.
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Here's what really hits me: There seem to be a lot of dead kids around the true-blue program supporters like Mr. Dunbar and Mr. Reuben. It seems like if one kept turning over rocks, one would find a pile of dead kids around this circle of deeply connected "true believers." One thing they have in common is dead kids.
QFT
I don't see anyone suggesting causation here. Maybe you didn't actually read this quote? What it says is that around hard-core program supporters there seems to be quite a few dead children. I don't think anyone is disputing that assertion.
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I dont think anyone is trying to determine cause either. What they are trying to say is program parents who are very dedicated have kids who may have died or were severely at risk. If anyone has ever attended a run for a cause like say breast cancer. The ladies who are most vocal, most dedicated teams typically have someone close to them who have died from breast cancer. A persons death rallies people to rise up to help others.
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I dont think anyone is trying to determine cause either. What they are trying to say is program parents who are very dedicated have kids who may have died or were severely at risk. If anyone has ever attended a run for a cause like say breast cancer. The ladies who are most vocal, most dedicated teams typically have someone close to them who have died from breast cancer. A persons death rallies people to rise up to help others.
Or in this case, specifically, to hurt more children. That's what John does. His neglect caused his son's death and now he refers people to programs where they can dump their kid so they don't have to deal with him/her. His hobby is running, too. What a coincidence, eh?
:beat: :beat: :beat:
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I dont think anyone is trying to determine cause either. What they are trying to say is program parents who are very dedicated have kids who may have died or were severely at risk. If anyone has ever attended a run for a cause like say breast cancer. The ladies who are most vocal, most dedicated teams typically have someone close to them who have died from breast cancer. A persons death rallies people to rise up to help others.
Or in this case, specifically, to hurt more children. That's what John does. His neglect caused his son's death and now he refers people to programs where they can dump their kid so they don't have to deal with him/her. His hobby is running, too. What a coincidence, eh?
:beat: :beat: :beat:
I dont buy it at all. The people who support the causes are not wishing for more deaths. These runners dont spend an afternoon running in hopes that other people get breast cancer. Your logic is a little twisted it think.
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I dont think anyone is trying to determine cause either. What they are trying to say is program parents who are very dedicated have kids who may have died or were severely at risk. If anyone has ever attended a run for a cause like say breast cancer. The ladies who are most vocal, most dedicated teams typically have someone close to them who have died from breast cancer. A persons death rallies people to rise up to help others.
thewho never let's up, do you, John? You repulsive murderer. You murdered your own kid. I hope the shame eats away at you until there is nothing left. Your analogies are moot. Relatives of people with breast cancer, and relatives who finance abduction and torture are not similar. Abduction and torture are not similar to cancer. But you know that. You know your analogies are no more legitimate than your questions you ask to derail topics. What a freak you are. Shouldn’t you be busy pretending to offer educated referrals to non-existent aarc facilities, you murdering freak?
I am not suppose to say this but personally I would recommend Calgary, at this time, because the kids get a little more one on one attention there. AARC is at capacity right now and has just lost a key staff person. Their quality hasn’t suffered but Calgary can offer more attention at this time until Alberta can get new people in.".
Why did you say that, who?
Rudy Bentz is a sex offender,murderer and torturer. Rudy Bentz, your ally, runner of the gulags called CEDU and academy at swift river. As are YOU, through your complicity with him.
Was it sad looking at the corpse of your son? I bet you thought "great marketing opprotunity." Your son felt such pain because of you. You degraded and murdered him. You had him sexually abused at the ASR and SUVs (stripped searched) Maybe the guards fondled him extra? --they usually do. I bet that thought appeals to you.
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I dont think anyone is trying to determine cause either. What they are trying to say is program parents who are very dedicated have kids who may have died or were severely at risk. If anyone has ever attended a run for a cause like say breast cancer. The ladies who are most vocal, most dedicated teams typically have someone close to them who have died from breast cancer. A persons death rallies people to rise up to help others.
Or in this case, specifically, to hurt more children. That's what John does. His neglect caused his son's death and now he refers people to programs where they can dump their kid so they don't have to deal with him/her. His hobby is running, too. What a coincidence, eh?
:beat: :beat: :beat:
I dont buy it at all. The people who support the causes are not wishing for more deaths. These runners dont spend an afternoon running in hopes that other people get breast cancer. Your logic is a little twisted it think.
Where's your wife??
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thewho never let's up, do you, John? You repulsive murderer. You murdered your own kid. I hope the shame eats away at you until there is nothing left. Your analogies are moot. Relatives of people with breast cancer, and relatives who finance abduction and torture are not similar.
They may not be but relatives of women who died of breast cancer and relatives of children who died of suicide are closely similar in my opinion. People rally together especially those who had been close to them and have helped through the years leading up to their deaths. I cant believe that a single parent of a child of suicide wished that on another family just the same as people who lost a mother to breast cancer do not work towards having others die. Your logic is nutty, I am sorry to say.
Abduction and torture are not similar to cancer.
Of course they are not. We hear stories of abducted kids all the time and the parents of these kids do not put their other kids in harms way. If anything they become overly protective. Its a natural response. Families with relatives who died of breast cancer tend to get more screenings (not the opposite like you are suggesting)
But you know that. You know your analogies are no more legitimate than your questions you ask to derail topics. What a freak you are. Shouldn’t you be busy pretending to offer educated referrals to non-existent aarc facilities, you murdering freak?
You have no idea who I am as me you. I am still on the same topic, it is you who is trying to make it more than it is. The last part of your post I dont understand, sorry
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Why did you say that, who?
Rudy Bentz is a sex offender,murderer and torturer.
Yes, I did see his resume, I think it is also on Linkedin also.
Rudy Bentz, your ally, runner of the gulags called CEDU and academy at swift river. As are YOU, through your complicity with him.
I miss those days, has anyone heard how he is doing?
Was it sad looking at the corpse of your son?
I actually couldn’t make it. I was getting a complimentary trip from Aspen. But I had it filmed, I plan to watch it this summer.
I bet you thought "great marketing opprotunity."
I am not a betting man. I saw the opportunity and the money that came in from the first obit was amazing!! Imagine how much I could make if both kids died. A parents dream!! It was a sure thing.
Your son felt such pain because of you.
I know isn’t it great!! I wish ASR would take more pictures.
You degraded and murdered him.
We all have to die someday!!! Degradation is just part of the journey.
You had him sexually abused.
I called ahead to make sure they could do it right!!
and SUVs (stripped searched) Maybe the guards fondled him extra? --they usually do.
They better have, I paid extra for that!! Did you hear that they didn’t? I would be disappointed, maybe sue... they cashed the check!!!
I bet that thought appeals to you.
Ahhhh... you know me well!!!
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Why did you say that, who?
Rudy Bentz is a sex offender,murderer and torturer.
Yes, I did see his resume, I think it is also on Linkedin also.
Rudy Bentz, your ally, runner of the gulags called CEDU and academy at swift river. As are YOU, through your complicity with him.
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he sure is
http://www.heal-online.org/cedu.htm (http://www.heal-online.org/cedu.htm)
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I dont think anyone is trying to determine cause either. What they are trying to say is program parents who are very dedicated have kids who may have died or were severely at risk. If anyone has ever attended a run for a cause like say breast cancer. The ladies who are most vocal, most dedicated teams typically have someone close to them who have died from breast cancer. A persons death rallies people to rise up to help others.
Or in this case, specifically, to hurt more children. That's what John does. His neglect caused his son's death and now he refers people to programs where they can dump their kid so they don't have to deal with him/her. His hobby is running, too. What a coincidence, eh?
:beat: :beat: :beat:
I dont buy it at all. The people who support the causes are not wishing for more deaths. These runners dont spend an afternoon running in hopes that other people get breast cancer. Your logic is a little twisted it think.
Where's your wife??
Tell us, WhoBag. Where's she at?
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I’ve come to the conclusion that aside from calling out a troll by the recognizable slur of “WHO”,speculation about the identity of the “WHO” as a single entity is misguided.
Those who have an agenda to defend programs, silence survivors or to do as trolls do, tend to do so under the guise of "guest". The confusion created by this allows for them to put out their assertions without anyone being able to really engage them in a substantive debate. This seems important to them as they really don’t seem interested in having an open discussion, that doesn’t devolve.
It occurs to me that the mantle of mystery/obfuscation perpetuated by guest quote guest quote strands, undermines any real fleshing out of relevant points.
So, I have come to realize there is no such thing as the Easter Bunny, nor is there a “WHO”. It’s just some guys stinking of mothballs typing away with their plastic whiskers wilting in the musty heat of their dank existence. Whoever each of them may be, they’re agendas are served by the idea of a unified enemy named “WHO”.
Pick them apart and parse out their objectives. Anyone having actual factual information about program pimps would do well to call them out one by one, under a thread with their name on it. Let them defend themselves there.
This who is who speculation turned my head for a bit. Now, it’s time for that who thread freak show to go on hiatus and not be renewed and never be picked up for syndication.
- Send In The Clowns – Sondheim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om9fz2TT6k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om9fz2TT6k) :clown:
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She was too old for SUWS or ASR. There is a program called ARHW (At Risk House Wives). Which is an Aspen beta overseas project for women struggling with household issues. Women who are at-risk of filling for divorce can be enrolled in Bahrain where they start out in an orange burka and move through various stages until they finally get to call home when they are about half way thru the program. This usually takes 8-12 years before they get their first phone call.
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I’ve come to the conclusion that aside from calling out a troll by the recognizable slur of “WHO”,speculation about the identity of the “WHO” as a single entity is misguided.
Those who have an agenda to defend programs, silence survivors or to do as trolls do, tend to do so under the guise of "guest". The confusion created by this allows for them to put out their assertions without anyone being able to really engage them in a substantive debate. This seems important to them as they really don’t seem interested in having an open discussion, that doesn’t devolve.
It occurs to me that the mantle of mystery/obfuscation perpetuated by guest quote guest quote strands, undermines any real fleshing out of relevant points.
So, I have come to realize there is no such thing as the Easter Bunny, nor is there a “WHO”. It’s just some guys stinking of mothballs typing away with their plastic whiskers wilting in the musty heat of their dank existence. Whoever each of them may be, they’re agendas are served by the idea of a unified enemy named “WHO”.
Pick them apart and parse out their objectives. Anyone having actual factual information about program pimps would do well to call them out one by one, under a thread with their name on it. Let them defend themselves there.
This who is who speculation turned my head for a bit. Now, it’s time for that who thread freak show to go on hiatus and not be renewed and never be picked up for syndication.
- Send In The Clowns – Sondheim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om9fz2TT6k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om9fz2TT6k) :clown:
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She was too old for SUWS or ASR. There is a program called ARHW (At Risk House Wives). Which is an Aspen beta overseas project for women struggling with household issues. Women who are at-risk of filling for divorce can be enrolled in Bahrain where they start out in an orange burka and move through various stages until they finally get to call home when they are about half way thru the program. This usually takes 8-12 years before they get their first phone call.
Translation: She left me. What a loser.
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She was too old for SUWS or ASR. There is a program called ARHW (At Risk House Wives). Which is an Aspen beta overseas project for women struggling with household issues. Women who are at-risk of filling for divorce can be enrolled in Bahrain where they start out in an orange burka and move through various stages until they finally get to call home when they are about half way thru the program. This usually takes 8-12 years before they get their first phone call.
Translation: She left me. What a loser.
Ha,Ha,Ha
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Where is that date of mine? I picked up a corsage and everything.
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Why did you say that, who?
Rudy Bentz is a sex offender,murderer and torturer.
Yes, I did see his resume, I think it is also on Linkedin also.
Rudy Bentz, your ally, runner of the gulags called CEDU and academy at swift river. As are YOU, through your complicity with him.
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he sure is
http://www.heal-online.org/cedu.htm (http://www.heal-online.org/cedu.htm)
Ha,Ha,Ha, That is funny!! You confirm your post by citing another survivors site. Do they use fornits to back up their facts Ha,Ha,Ha, This has to be the "Classic post of the day".
Thank you for that.
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Wait till we show you arguing with yourself. Speaking of which, where is that post where you gave Psy permission to link up your guest posts. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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Wait till we show you arguing with yourself. Speaking of which, where is that post where you gave Psy permission to link up your guest posts. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
I am not one to let anyone off the hook either. Once we get conformation that your posts are all linked together, from psy, I will get mine done. Let me know when you feel comfortable letting everyone see how much you post from the shadows. When you feel you are ready send psy a PM asking him to link your guest posts together and then ask him to confirm it on the forum.
We will work from there.
Pete
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So you are now fully acknowledging you lied yesterday when you claim you had already asked Psy to link your guest post, and that it had been done.
Okay. We've yet again established you're a liar.
So once you get this confirmation from Psy (the request were shown to you yesterday, its best you acknowledge them) are you going to ask that yours be linked up.
What happens when you discover you're wrong and that I havent been attacking from the shadows.
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So you are now fully acknowledging you lied yesterday when you claim you had already asked Psy to link your guest post, and that it had been done.
Calm down, Bruce!! You are one of the most high strung people I have ever met. No one is lying to you. My posts were strung together before. If you want them strung together again then you will have to have yours done and then have psy confirm it on the forum.
Okay. We've yet again established you're a liar.
No, you have voices in your head, Brucey.
So once you get this confirmation from Psy (the request were shown to you yesterday, its best you acknowledge them) are you going to ask that yours be linked up.
Show me your linked up posts, your confirmation from psy and we will go from there.
What happens when you discover you're wrong and that I havent been attacking from the shadows.
Why are you so afraid to link you posts up?
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Let me be clear. I have better things to do than to link up anybody's posts. Doing such would be a courtesy and I'm not feeling particularly courteous at the moment. Ask Ginger if she'll bother, but my feeling is the answer is going to be no.
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Calm down, Bruce!! You are one of the most high strung people I have ever met. No one is lying to you. My posts were strung together before. If you want them strung together again then you will have to have yours done and then have psy confirm it on the forum.
Oh no Petey, I'm good. We've never actually met, but it is apparent whenever you are, or are about to be pinned your nerves start to crack. You either desperatly try and to change the subject by attacking a survivor, or you refuse to acknowledge the most blatent of facts. It sounds like you're getting a little nervous. Rightfully so. You're about to be exposed.
How often do you want people to link up their posts? I have finished. I heard that since you opened up this can of worms and revitalized TheWho thread then you were asked to link up your own posts first..... but you declined.
Lets be honest, Brucey.
I'm a huge fan of honesty, hence why I asked Psy to link up my post, twice, before any of this conversation began. You on the other hand seem reluctant to do so. Now when you say your posts were already strung together, are you talking about that instance several years ago when you first arrived. How about something more recent? Maybe...post October 2008.
No, you have voices in your head, Brucey
So says the guy who uses 'we' and 'us" when refering to himself. Not to mention carries on long conversations with himself.
Show me your linked up posts, your confirmation from psy and we will go from there.
Best I can do is ask Psy...again. Now what are you going to do?
Why are you so afraid to link you posts up?
Since I'm the one openly encouraging it, while you still are hesitating....why are you afraid of it. Also you didnt answer my question:what are you going to do when youre proven wrong?>
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"Revenge Fantasy Girlz," meet "RobertBruces." :roflmao: :guesswho:
trolling himself now???
Bruce has really hit bottom.
Hey,Pete how do you explain that he and I are currently logged in at the same time?
Bruce just start a thread with everything you know about this thing and punk his ass out there.
The point of "outing' them is that they can't hide as WHO or Guest ,with their own names to "defend right?
Wrong, I just checked and you are not both logged in. nice try though, Bruce.
Psst Peter don't look now.
Bruce where's my fucking corsage?
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Well, it seems I have agreed to have my posts strung together 2 or 3 times in the past and I had it done. So it shows I am not the one afraid of what I post. You,on the other hand have never had it done. Based on Psy's post it seems to be a moot point anyway,so you are off the hook. One suggestion, though, try being civil to people without having to negotiate for it. It is a good trait all by its self, called manners and should had been taught by your mother. Sorry if it is a bit harsh.. just an observation.
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Well, it seems I have agreed to have my posts strung together 2 or 3 times in the past and I had it done. So it shows I am not the one afraid of what I post. You,on the other hand have never had it done. Based on Psy's post it seems to be a moot point anyway,so you are off the hook. One suggestion, though, try being civil to people without having to negotiate for it. It is a good trait all by its self, called manners and should had been taught by your mother. Sorry if it is a bit harsh.. just an observation.
Did your son have a mother to teach him anything?
I may be off the hook, but you're not. Show me the post where you gave Psy permission to link up your guest postings. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter. While you're dodging that consider all the lies you've told here not even about your bullshit data, but about people in general. Was that civil? How you're constant dismissal of peoples abuse stories. You went so far as to claim every kid was claimed to have been abused was a liar. You even blamed the kids being killed in these places on the kids themselves. You've lied about me on several occasions without me even being here to institage it. You lied just last night. You were crying about how we took it to a new level by attempting to expose you and your family, and how you would never condone such action. Yet when HLA staff members gave you information on who you believe I am you celebrated it. You thought it was hysterical, and you even went so far as to try and blackmail me into supporting ASR as a legitimate school on the board. You threatened to release "very personal and embarrassing information" you thought you thought was not only legitimate, but something I'd care about. Remember the time Karen tried to find out where Dysfuction worked to try and have him fired. The whole time you thought it was fantastic, and then you cry when we hit pay dirt and do the same thing back Now you want to play the victim. No dice. The manner in which youve been treated on this forum was brought on entirely by yourself. You have an opportunity now to make a new slate, and have real discussions without all the nonsense. Before that can happen though you need to be honest about everything.
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Bruce where's my fucking corsage?
First my heart was broken, I figured you'd ditched me for some other dude. I was gonna go home alone with this nice flower and cry.
But then you not only showed up and redeemed yourself, but you're talking all dirty and stuff too. :P
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Bruce where's my fucking corsage?
First my heart was broken, I figured you'd ditched me for some other dude. I was gonna go home alone with this nice flower and cry.
But then you not only showed up and redeemed yourself, but you're talking all dirty and stuff too. :P
A flower would have sufficed. Will screen clean and a micro fiber cloth clean that up?
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Did your son have a mother to teach him anything?
All my kids are still alive and their mother and I have taught them the best we could and they all turned out well, so far (Ha,Ha,Ha). They are good kids.
I may be off the hook, but you're not. Show me the post where you gave Psy permission to link up your guest postings. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
Sorry but I am not going to go back looking for the post Bruce. You will have to get past it. Again, I have linked my posts up 2 to 3 times you have never done it.
While you're dodging that consider all the lies you've told here not even about your bullshit data, but about people in general. Was that civil? How you're constant dismissal of peoples abuse stories. You went so far as to claim every kid was claimed to have been abused was a liar. You even blamed the kids being killed in these places on the kids themselves. You've lied about me on several occasions without me even being here to institage it. You lied just last night. You were crying about how we took it to a new level by attempting to expose you and your family, and how you would never condone such action. Yet when HLA staff members gave you information on who you believe I am you celebrated it. You thought it was hysterical, and you even went so far as to try and blackmail me into supporting ASR as a legitimate school on the board. You threatened to release "very personal and embarrassing information" you thought you thought was not only legitimate, but something I'd care about. Remember the time Karen tried to find out where Dysfuction worked to try and have him fired. The whole time you thought it was fantastic, and then you cry when we hit pay dirt and do the same thing back Now you want to play the victim. No dice. The manner in which youve been treated on this forum was brought on entirely by yourself. You have an opportunity now to make a new slate, and have real discussions without all the nonsense. Before that can happen though you need to be honest about everything.
Wow, I read that twice, You need serious help, Bruce.
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A flower would have sufficed. Will screen clean and a micro fiber cloth clean that up
That and a sham-wow.
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All my kids are still alive and their mother and I have taught them the best we could and they all turned out well, so far (Ha,Ha,Ha). They are good kids.
Then why was at least one of them locked up,twice?
Sorry but I am not going to go back looking for the post Bruce. You will have to get past it. Again, I have linked my posts up 2 to 3 times you have never done it.
Why would I have needed to? I log in when I post. Another lie from you though Peter. Wow this is getting to be like a habit for you. Here's what you said the other day:
Looks like we are all set. They finished mine up this morning, just before yours
Why'd you lie Pete? You're attempting to claim past instances of your post being linked up covers your current postings. That's like refusing to pay a speeding ticket because you already paid the one you got three years ago. It doesnt work that way Peter, not even for you. If you really have nothing to hide, then why not give Psy permission. Unless of course you have been playing games. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
Wow, I read that twice, You need serious help, Bruce.
Why? What about it disturbs you? Have you finally gone so far you're actually disturbed by your own actions? You're becoming aware of the truth about yourself. Here, let me post it again that way everyone knows what it is that you've done that you know find disturbing:
While you're dodging that consider all the lies you've told here not even about your bullshit data, but about people in general. Was that civil? How you're constant dismissal of peoples abuse stories. You went so far as to claim every kid was claimed to have been abused was a liar. You even blamed the kids being killed in these places on the kids themselves. You've lied about me on several occasions without me even being here to institage it. You lied just last night. You were crying about how we took it to a new level by attempting to expose you and your family, and how you would never condone such action. Yet when HLA staff members gave you information on who you believe I am you celebrated it. You thought it was hysterical, and you even went so far as to try and blackmail me into supporting ASR as a legitimate school on the board. You threatened to release "very personal and embarrassing information" you thought you thought was not only legitimate, but something I'd care about. Remember the time Karen tried to find out where Dysfuction worked to try and have him fired. The whole time you thought it was fantastic, and then you cry when we hit pay dirt and do the same thing back Now you want to play the victim. No dice. The manner in which youve been treated on this forum was brought on entirely by yourself. You have an opportunity now to make a new slate, and have real discussions without all the nonsense. Before that can happen though you need to be honest about everything
I'll get the original comments and post them om here for everyone to see Pete. You claim to appreciate honesty, so you should be fine with this. While I'm doing that you go find the post where you gave Psy permission to link up your guest posts. If you cant find it then just type it out again. I mean if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to lose right? That's why I gave Psy permission, twice. Because I don't attack people from the shadows. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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Oh also Pete, you never answered my question about what you're going to do when you're proven wrong about me guest posting. Will you even acknowledge it? Or will play your usual game and deny ever having made the comments and ignore all questions on them?
I mean look for example at what transpired over the past two nights. You claimed Revenge and I were the same poster. Yet she proved you wrong. Why dont you try acknowledging that for starts.
Then you can show me the post where gave Psy permission to link up your guest posts. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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Then why was at least one of them locked up,twice?
None of my kids were ever locked up. I have sent them to their rooms a few times if that counts.
Why'd you lie Pete? You're attempting to claim past instances of your post being linked up covers your current postings. That's like refusing to pay a speeding ticket because you already paid the one you got three years ago. It doesnt work that way Peter, not even for you. If you really have nothing to hide, then why not give Psy permission. Unless of course you have been playing games. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
Aw, Brucie upset again? Like I said. My posts have been done. Go do yours then we will talk.
'll get the original comments and post them om here for everyone to see Pete. You claim to appreciate honesty, so you should be fine with this. While I'm doing that you go find the post where you gave Psy permission to link up your guest posts. If you cant find it then just type it out again. I mean if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to lose right? That's why I gave Psy permission, twice. Because I don't attack people from the shadows. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
I think you finally lost it. Why are you so afraid to have your posts linked up? Mine have been done several times. Let me know when you are done, Brucie.
You are getting paranoid Bruce... you think every guest poster is me. Settle down. If you have a specific post that is bothering you then link to it and I will tell you if it is me or not or you can ask psy. The guy is busy give him a break, Brucie. You are so immature sometimes.
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Whooter, when was Max at HLA? Did he graduate? Was he allowed to come home for his mom's funeral?
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Whooter, when was Max at HLA? Did he graduate? Was he allowed to come home for his mom's funeral?
2004-2008 when HLA was at it's absolute worst. Beatings, suicides, rapes going on the whole time and TheWho left Max there to rot. And forced him to stay there even as his mom was dying. Sick and sad.
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Let me be clear. I have better things to do than to link up anybody's posts. Doing such would be a courtesy and I'm not feeling particularly courteous at the moment. Ask Ginger if she'll bother, but my feeling is the answer is going to be no.
most of the guest posts are prob DJs. He's got a hardon for a finders fee. ;D
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Let me be clear. I have better things to do than to link up anybody's posts. Doing such would be a courtesy and I'm not feeling particularly courteous at the moment. Ask Ginger if she'll bother, but my feeling is the answer is going to be no.
most of the guest posts are prob DJs. He's got a hardon for a finders fee. ;D
Nah, DJ is the type to log in most of the time. The guest posts would be more the bruces style if anything or TheWhos.
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Bruce where's my fucking corsage?
First my heart was broken, I figured you'd ditched me for some other dude. I was gonna go home alone with this nice flower and cry.
But then you not only showed up and redeemed yourself, but you're talking all dirty and stuff too. :P
A flower would have sufficed. Will screen clean and a micro fiber cloth clean that up?
Forget about Bruce and his corsage, Revenge Fantasy Girl. Dr. McFeeely will see you now and he'd like to give you a pearl necklace. And you won't even get your screen dirty. ;)
So, Revenge Fantasy Girl, are you still a troubled teen or have you come of age yet?
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Whooter, when was Max at HLA? Did he graduate? Was he allowed to come home for his mom's funeral?
2004-2008 when HLA was at it's absolute worst. Beatings, suicides, rapes going on the whole time and TheWho left Max there to rot. And forced him to stay there even as his mom was dying. Sick and sad.
Uh, the funeral? Was he allowed to go to it, or did they hold it over his head as a control tool? HLA normally uses family tragedy as means to get compliance. Did Max get to go to his mom's funeral or not?
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So, Revenge Fantasy Girl, are you still a troubled teen or have you come of age yet?
I’m a woman with a concealed carry permit
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Whooter, when was Max at HLA? Did he graduate? Was he allowed to come home for his mom's funeral?
2004-2008 when HLA was at it's absolute worst. Beatings, suicides, rapes going on the whole time and TheWho left Max there to rot. And forced him to stay there even as his mom was dying. Sick and sad.
Uh, the funeral? Was he allowed to go to it, or did they hold it over his head as a control tool? HLA normally uses family tragedy as means to get compliance. Did Max get to go to his mom's funeral or not?
And...?
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I’m a woman with a concealed carry permit
I'm turned on............
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I’m a woman with a concealed carry permit
I'm turned on............
Hell. Half this forum probably found that post strangely erotic. I'm almost surprised it hasn't gotten to suggestive talk about where precisely she conceals it. ;)
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So, Revenge Fantasy Girl, are you still a troubled teen or have you come of age yet?
I’m a woman with a concealed carry permit
Good, I am packin' too. And for your information, I've got a real Saturday Night Special, not some little snub-nose, know what I'm sayin'?
I'd be happy to show you my piece if you'd like, Revenge Fantasy Girl. Nothing concealed here.
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seacamp .32 pistol
As to Where…the fashion I’m rocking is always a consideration.
Word to the wise guys, I’ve some seriously unresolved rage issues.
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Dr. McFeeely can help you work through some of that if you'd like, Revenge Fantasy Girl. In fact, he'd love to.
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I don’t know what kind of “Dr.” you are, but I seemed to have developed a rash on my ass.
Is there an ointment or liniment to cure something like you?
Step off my sweet ass, McFeeely.
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Hmmm, this'll have to go in your chart. Tendancies toward agression.
Dr. McFeeely has no liniment nor any ointment, but he does have some of this water-based gel, and it doesn't have to be applied strictly to your posterior...though it can be if you like.
There is no cure for Dr. McFeeely, as Dr. McFeeely is the cure.
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Hmmm, this'll have to go in your chart. Tendancies toward agression.
Dr. McFeeely has no liniment nor any ointment, but he does have some of this water-based gel, and it doesn't have to be applied strictly to your posterior...though it can be if you like.
There is no cure for Dr. McFeeely, as Dr. McFeeely is the cure.
Oh,LMSAO. You are twisted.
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Dr. McFeeely made note of this and your other outbursts in your chart, Revenge Fantasy Girl, and is in the process of writing up a SOAP note towards developing your individual treatment plan. It'll involve a lot of my special gel.
The road to recovery for you will be long and hard, and it'll take time and effort to penetrate that tough exterior of yours and go deep into your psyche, but we'll get there, won't we? Dr. McFeeely won't let you down.
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Dr. McNasty do you by any chance practice at CALO? They do a lot of hands on "Attachment Therapy".
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No, Dr. McFeeely has his own small, private practice and has developed a "hands-on" therapeutic treatment method all his own. Care for a consult?
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Is anyone else throwing up in their mouth seeing TheWho try fuck a "troubled teen?"
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Is anyone else throwing up in their mouth seeing TheWho try fuck a "troubled teen?"
ROFL thats sick survivor humor, not Whooter
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No, Dr. McFeeely has his own small, private practice and has developed a "hands-on" therapeutic treatment method all his own. Care for a consult?
I can’t imagine how a modality such as yours might be applied.
Your methodology is probably just as sticky.
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No, Dr. McFeeely has his own small, private practice and has developed a "hands-on" therapeutic treatment method all his own. Care for a consult?
I can’t imagine how a modality such as yours might be applied.
Your methodology is probably just as sticky.
Well, you know about sticky right now, I am sure.
Dr. McFeeely would be more than happy to show you just how his methods are applied.
You can apply them to the good doctor, and then he'll apply them to you.
And Dr. McFeeely would like to apply more than just his modality to you.
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Is anyone else throwing up in their mouth seeing TheWho try fuck a "troubled teen?"
ROFL thats sick survivor humor, not Whooter
I sure as hell hope so. Then again, it’s creepy to think this Mc Feeely may actually be in practice somewhere and that that's what his unconscious wears under his suit.
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Revenge Fantasy Girl:
Dr. McFeeely is still in his office this evening; he has taken a special and personal interest in your particular case, and he would be willing, in fact eager, to extend his office hours just for you.
For that matter, he would be willing (again, in fact eager) to extend more than just his hours...
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Peter, where is the posting where you gave Psy permission to link up your guest post?
What will you when you are proven wrong about your claim that I "attack you from the shadows"?
I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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This is classic deflection. There is nothing stopping you from having your posts linked together on your own. But you haven’t done it yet. Why is that? I have done it 2 or 3 times. Where is this hook you keep talking about? We are all waiting. Its your turn.
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Maybe we could change the name of this place to pornits.
Mmmmm, Dr. McFeeely likes that idea. What do you say, Revenge Fantasy Girl?
Can McFeeely call for a vote? All in favor say "aye."
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What do you say, Revenge Fantasy Girl?
Can McFeeely call for a vote? All in favor say "aye."
Nay means Nay!
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This is classic deflection. There is nothing stopping you from having your posts linked together on your own. But you haven’t done it yet. Why is that? I have done it 2 or 3 times. Where is this hook you keep talking about? We are all waiting. Its your turn.
I'll try a different approach.
Peter what would you say if I told you there's not a single guest post from me on this thread. In fact what if I told you there hasn't been a guest post from me on all of fornits in the past.....12 months?
You cannot avoid respondsibility for your actions by comparing yourself to others Peter. You should have learned this in 1st grade.
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What do you say, Revenge Fantasy Girl?
Can McFeeely call for a vote? All in favor say "aye."
Nay means Nay!
(Another note made in patient's chart) So, you've trying to get out of your treatment plan AMA, Revenge Fantasy Girl?
Dr. McFeeely disapproves of your indecision, and believes that he has the prescription for what ails you.
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This is classic deflection. There is nothing stopping you from having your posts linked together on your own. But you haven’t done it yet. Why is that? I have done it 2 or 3 times. Where is this hook you keep talking about? We are all waiting. Its your turn.
I'll try a different approach.
Peter what would you say if I told you there's not a single guest post from me on this thread. In fact what if I told you there hasn't been a guest post from me on all of fornits in the past.....12 months?
You cannot avoid respondsibility for your actions by comparing yourself to others Peter. You should have learned this in 1st grade.
So it will be easy for you to have your posts linked up then. I have had it done a few times, try it its painless. Right now you have 3,252 posts. Lets see how it changes after they are linked up. All my posts are guest posts because I sold my login to Ursus. Let me know when you are done. I usually dont go very far.
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I think that TheWho's posts should be printed by nanoscopic laser on a thin wire and then we can garrote him with it.
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I think that TheWho's posts should be printed by nanoscopic laser on a thin wire and then we can garrote him with it.
That may be the only long term effective treatment plan for programmers, their pimps, Trolls and sleazy “Doctors”, alike. I like it.
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So it will be easy for you to have your posts linked up then. I have had it done a few times, try it its painless. Right now you have 3,252 posts. Lets see how it changes after they are linked up. All my posts are guest posts because I sold my login to Ursus. Let me know when you are done. I usually dont go very far
If that's true then show me the post where you gave permission to have your posts linked. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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Youre still having to avoid the fact that I already posted and reposted my request for my (very few) guest posts to be linked. As I said, I dont play the same games as you and I have nothing to hide.
You also failed to answer the question. What are you going to do when you discover you're wrong and find out I havent been guest posting.
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This is classic deflection. There is nothing stopping you from having your posts linked together on your own. But you haven’t done it yet. Why is that? I have done it 2 or 3 times. Where is this hook you keep talking about? We are all waiting. Its your turn.
I'll try a different approach.
Peter what would you say if I told you there's not a single guest post from me on this thread. In fact what if I told you there hasn't been a guest post from me on all of fornits in the past.....12 months?
You cannot avoid respondsibility for your actions by comparing yourself to others Peter. You should have learned this in 1st grade.
So it will be easy for you to have your posts linked up then. I have had it done a few times, try it its painless. Right now you have 3,252 posts. Lets see how it changes after they are linked up. All my posts are guest posts because I sold my login to Ursus. Let me know when you are done. I usually dont go very far.
That's true. You sit in front of the computer pretty much 24/7.
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Let me be clear. I have better things to do than to link up anybody's posts. Doing such would be a courtesy and I'm not feeling particularly courteous at the moment. Ask Ginger if she'll bother, but my feeling is the answer is going to be no.
This pissing contest has no winner because both players positioned themselves directly in the path of their opponant.
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This pissing contest has no winner because both players positioned themselves directly in the path of their opponant.
It's a wash, go wash up.
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Youre still having to avoid the fact that I already posted and reposted my request for my (very few) guest posts to be linked. As I said, I dont play the same games as you and I have nothing to hide.
You also failed to answer the question. What are you going to do when you discover you're wrong and find out I havent been guest posting.
Look, Bruce, your requests are fine and all. But lets hold off until we see the results. Just let me know when all your posts have been linked up. Until then nothing is going to happen on my end.
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Youre still having to avoid the fact that I already posted and reposted my request for my (very few) guest posts to be linked. As I said, I dont play the same games as you and I have nothing to hide.
You also failed to answer the question. What are you going to do when you discover you're wrong and find out I havent been guest posting.
Look, Bruce, your requests are fine and all. But lets hold off until we see the results. Just let me know when all your posts have been linked up. Until then nothing is going to happen on my end.
Give it up who. If Bruce were going to have his posts strung together he would have done it by now. He isnt going to to it. Get over it already!! Hes goosing you.
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My question for The Who and everyone who is arguing with him: Why are you even wasting your time? Obviously it is getting nowhere, and just causing him to retaliate and argue more. Why would you put your energy into something foul and repulsive, when we could be doing something to stop torture of these kids? I was in Cross Creek for 3 and ½ years and I saw fornits as a place for hope… what is it doing for me on this subject??? Its making me sick.
The Who is hopeless egomaniac. And for those of you who continue to argue? You are stooping to his level. ::deadhorse:: :wall:
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My question for The Who and everyone who is arguing with him: Why are you even wasting your time? Obviously it is getting nowhere, and just causing him to retaliate and argue more. Why would you put your energy into something foul and repulsive, when we could be doing something to stop torture of these kids? I was in Cross Creek for 3 and ½ years and I saw fornits as a place for hope… what is it doing for me on this subject??? Its making me sick.
The Who is hopeless egomaniac. And for those of you who continue to argue? You are stooping to his level. ::deadhorse:: :wall:
Wise words from a wise girl. :hug: :notworthy:
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My question for The Who and everyone who is arguing with him: Why are you even wasting your time? Obviously it is getting nowhere, and just causing him to retaliate and argue more. Why would you put your energy into something foul and repulsive, when we could be doing something to stop torture of these kids? I was in Cross Creek for 3 and ½ years and I saw fornits as a place for hope… what is it doing for me on this subject??? Its making me sick.
The Who is hopeless egomaniac. And for those of you who continue to argue? You are stooping to his level. ::deadhorse:: :wall:
Look, Katie, let me try to explain something that you may not see. I think I can speak for many here that your story is moving, touching, sincere and very credible. I think that you will be able to open the eyes of many new readers and parents who come here to fornits to read up on the inside workings of the industry.
But now lets say in addition to your story you start posting about how a program parent who you never met drove their son to suicide or that programs aggravate diabetes to the point of causing death and that a kid who died from cancer at age 27 was the responsibility of the program he attended 10 years ago. You further post that I rape and murder children, I work for the industry and am an Edcon. These are all stories intended to make myself, programs and program parents look bad.
So what we would know is that you are willing to make up stories (or stand by the sidelines and say nothing while others do) to make programs, parents and staff look bad.
Now what would this say about you written account at Cross creek? Should you expect the readers to believe you were honest in your personal account at Cross Creek or would you expect us to believe you would say just about anything to make the place look bad because you hated the place and some of the staff?
Think about it from a readers perspective. That is why I question posters here, because I see these inconsistencies here all the time and no one but myself will call them out on it. There is such a drive to make all programs appear evil that the posters are willing to fabricate stories to attain their goal, then why would we ever believe them when they say they were abused there? Its very easy to see from the readers perspective, but very few of the posters see it. That is why I am viewed the way I am. I point out the discrepancies and the readers don’t like it.
Stay strong, Katie, if sharing your story helps you in any way please continue. Your account will certainly go a long way in helping others to see how some of these places operate.
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She wasn't talking to you, fuckhead, she's talking to those of us dumb enough to go on about your bullshit.
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...no one but myself will call them out on it.
Why do you think that is, Who? Maybe other people have lives or something? I personally view your dogged insistence on giving up all of your worldly pleasures in favor of posting day and night at Fornits a sign of how desperate the "industry" is to counter negative PR. If Fornits didn't have a huge impact, you wouldn't be here. If Fornits didn't impact the bottom line, you wouldn't be here.
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My question for The Who and everyone who is arguing with him: Why are you even wasting your time? Obviously it is getting nowhere, and just causing him to retaliate and argue more. Why would you put your energy into something foul and repulsive, when we could be doing something to stop torture of these kids? I was in Cross Creek for 3 and ½ years and I saw fornits as a place for hope… what is it doing for me on this subject??? Its making me sick.
The Who is hopeless egomaniac. And for those of you who continue to argue? You are stooping to his level.
Look, Katie, let me try to explain something that you may not see. I think I can speak for many here that your story is moving, touching, sincere and very credible. I think that you will be able to open the eyes of many new readers and parents who come here to fornits to read up on the inside workings of the industry.
But now lets say in addition to your story you start posting about how a program parent who you never met drove their son to suicide or that programs aggravate diabetes to the point of causing death and that a kid who died from cancer at age 27 was the responsibility of the program he attended 10 years ago. You further post that I rape and murder children, I work for the industry and am an Edcon. These are all stories intended to make myself, programs and program parents look bad.
So what we would know is that you are willing to make up stories (or stand by the sidelines and say nothing while others do) to make programs, parents and staff look bad.
Now what would this say about you written account at Cross creek? Should you expect the readers to believe you were honest in your personal account at Cross Creek or would you expect us to believe you would say just about anything to make the place look bad because you hated the place and some of the staff?
Think about it from a readers perspective. That is why I question posters here, because I see these inconsistencies here all the time and no one but myself will call them out on it. There is such a drive to make all programs appear evil that the posters are willing to fabricate stories to attain their goal, then why would we ever believe them when they say they were abused there? Its very easy to see from the readers perspective, but very few of the posters see it. That is why I am viewed the way I am. I point out the discrepancies and the readers don’t like it.
Stay strong, Katie, if sharing your story helps you in any way please continue. Your account will certainly go a long way in helping others to see how some of these places operate.
I understand that your post specifically addressed Katie.
This is the first post I’ve seen here where someone admits to being an “Edcon”.
I do have some questions of my own for you. I hope you will take the time to respond.
How does your referral process work?
In your experience has it occurred to you that there might be times where the situation involves a troubled parent who is using programs either to further their pattern of harm on their child, or in some dissonance sort of way will severely abuse their child and then when the symptoms of that manifest they send the kid off to be fixed (as the offending parent cannot possibly factor themselves in to the dynamic as anything other than the hapless victim/parent)?
When you see paper work for a kids who have had several residential or inpatient stays, are they just a real tough case where another dose of even “tougher love” is called for?
Which programs do you not approve of? What are the reasons you choose not to associate with those in particular?
Maybe, posting with a consistent name would help keep your words from getting blurred in the guest strands. I look forward to Edcon’s reply.
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Sorry, If I led you to believe I am an edcon. But I am not. Just a program parent. If I mentioned refer I meant casually as in neighbors or friends.
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Frankly? I think that if people want to post their thoughts on the internet THAT IS THEIR PROBLEM. My parents bashed on and lied about me without my knowledge or consent... But I didn’t go around making fun of them or telling them they were wrong! I simply put my story out there. YOU on the other hand Whooter… seem to get your kicks from posing a threat, and giving those who get a tiny ounce of peace on fornit’s a hard time. WHO are you to be calling them out? I am not afraid to confront you… Because well? I am tired of sitting here listening to all your bullshit… when simply? You have no compassion, and you have no life.
You can post all you want Who. But for me? I DON’T GIVE A DAMN.
My advice is that you find a new hobby, because this one is getting old.
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See, I am a little different. I see an injustice against people who cannot defend themselves and I just have to speak up. People should be free to post what ever they wish, but if they are lying for reasons of hurting innocent people then they should be held accountable or at the very least be challenged. That is what I do.
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they should be held accountable or at the very least be challenged. That is what I do.
Oh... i see by saying you are holding them accountable it really means by humiliatiing them... wow i really undestand now...
You are sick and twisted if you think that holding people accountable means to ridicule and bash on them. OH! WAIT! YOU DO think that… I guess the Whooter has a bit of self righteousness going on…
Look whootie... Your little "I’m going to be their conscience” act? IS BULLSHIT! You need to pull your head out of your ass, and find something better to do with your time… because I think I speak for us all when I say we have had enough.
Like I said before… arguing is useless, and I AM NOT GOING TO SINK DOWN TO MEET YOUR LEVEL. Move on Whooter… because as you will see… WE ARE NOT GOING TO SINK DOWN TO MEET YOU IN YOUR PILE OF SHIT.
:twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger:
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Oh... i see by saying you are holding them accountable it really means by humiliatiing them... wow i really undestand now...
You are sick and twisted if you think that holding people accountable means to ridicule and bash on them. OH! WAIT! YOU DO think that… I guess the Whooter has a bit of self righteousness going on…
You are in the midst of several threads where parents are getting bashed and humiliated when they cannot even defend themselves. I have seen this played out over and over again here. Why haven’t you been upset over those posts?
I haven’t humiliated or bashed anyone who hasn’t bashed me or someone else first.. at least not knowingly
Look whootie... Your little "I’m going to be their conscience” act? IS BULLSHIT! You need to pull your head out of your ass, and find something better to do with your time… because I think I speak for us all when I say we have had enough.
So you think it is okay to start a thread about someone and bash and humiliate their whole family. Posting their address and phone numbers openly on the web. This must be okay to you because you attack the only person who will stand up to defend them.
Like I said before… arguing is useless, and I AM NOT GOING TO SINK DOWN TO MEET YOUR LEVEL. Move on Whooter… because as you will see… WE ARE NOT GOING TO SINK DOWN TO MEET YOU IN YOUR PILE OF SHIT.
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Oh, nice trash mouth,Katie. I never attacked you or bashed you. This is something you are doing. But you don’t want others to do it is that it?
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Like I said before… arguing is useless, and I AM NOT GOING TO SINK DOWN TO MEET YOUR LEVEL. Move on Whooter… because as you will see… WE ARE NOT GOING TO SINK DOWN TO MEET YOU IN YOUR PILE OF SHIT.
There are a number of posters who sink down - some even lower than Whooter. Right or wrong - these are usu. the ones that he baits and who continue to argue with him.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNwFXLcrsbc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNwFXLcrsbc)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNwFXLcrsbc
You'll notice at the end, Shirley sneaks off with a spoon. I wonder if she then goes out in to the yard and sharpens it into a shiv.
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I am simply stating Whootie, that people could be doing something better with their time than argue with you... you seem to hold a grudge whootie... like you said
Oh, nice trash mouth,Katie. I never attacked you or bashed you.
WHY NOT? You seem to hold a double standard. I do have a trash mouth though... ESPECIALLY when it comes to trashy people like you....
::deadhorse::
I dropped my standards to argue with you... but it wont happen again. I am better than that. And everyone else here at fornits (BESIDES YOU) have more integrity and accountability than you could ever try to "force" out of them. Dont play games with me whootie. :fuckoff:
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Excellent Katie'sthoughts. That's one troll behind you, but keep your shiv handy kiddo. ;)
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I am simply stating Whootie, that people could be doing something better with their time than argue with you... you seem to hold a grudge whootie... like you said
So move on. I don’t expect anyone to argue with me. I am just stating my opinions.
WHY NOT? You seem to hold a double standard. I do have a trash mouth though... ESPECIALLY when it comes to trashy people like you....
See there you go again. You are the one name calling. No double standard.
I dropped my standards to argue with you... but it wont happen again. I am better than that. And everyone else here at fornits (BESIDES YOU) have more integrity and accountability than you could ever try to "force" out of them. Dont play games with me whootie.
You are the one who stepped down to my level, as you put it, to play games. I am just trrying to stand up for people who cannot protect themselves. If you feel you are above that then that is what you need to live with. Look around you . People are getting bashed who don’t even post here. But this attacking from the shadows seems to be okay with you for some reason, yet you try to appear better than others.
You are putting the "Beating a dead horse" symbol out there. It seems you are not understanding me so lets make this the last post. I respect your story and am sorry you cannot read an opposing viewpoint without spewing vulgarity at people..
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My question for The Who and everyone who is arguing with him: Why are you even wasting your time? Obviously it is getting nowhere, and just causing him to retaliate and argue more. Why would you put your energy into something foul and repulsive, when we could be doing something to stop torture of these kids? I was in Cross Creek for 3 and ½ years and I saw fornits as a place for hope… what is it doing for me on this subject??? Its making me sick.
Me too. It's as if RobertBruce and Co. have become so obsessed with Whooter that they've forgotten about the program discussion entirely. For some reason, a troll deserves more attention than kids suffering in programs. Whooter got what he wanted and RB doesn't even realize it.
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My question for The Who and everyone who is arguing with him: Why are you even wasting your time? Obviously it is getting nowhere, and just causing him to retaliate and argue more. Why would you put your energy into something foul and repulsive, when we could be doing something to stop torture of these kids? I was in Cross Creek for 3 and ½ years and I saw fornits as a place for hope… what is it doing for me on this subject??? Its making me sick.
Me too. It's as if RobertBruce and Co. have become so obsessed with Whooter that they've forgotten about the program discussion entirely. For some reason, a troll deserves more attention than kids suffering in programs. Whooter got what he wanted and RB doesn't even realize it.
Its an unfortunate human tendency to take people at face value, and if someone is a self described program parent who just doesn't understand where you are coming from, there is a psychological impulse to explain yourself
Over time, when you notice that theWho claims to have a "fiduciary interest" in Aspen, recommends the a non -existent AARC facility from the point of view of an insider, pretends to have never existed except as a Robert Bruces sockpuppet , or a drug addled former student of HLA,says all the CEDU survivors, Liam Scheff, included are lied about abuse, you know this entity is much more (or less) then what it claims to be. It really is just a troll and should be treated as such--ignored.
You , psy, shouldmark it when it posts, or expose its IP.
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Its an unfortunate human tendency to take people at face value, and if someone is a self described program parent who just doesn't understand where you are coming from, there is a psychological impulse to explain yourself
You are right where I was when I first came here, just a little skeptical but believing everything you heard.
I was the same way. I came here to fornits and read all the horror stories and took them all at face value, as you said.
Then little by little I became comfortable and I started to tell my story and after awhile I noticed that those who didn’t like what I was saying would make up stories about me to discredit me. Some said I was an edcon, others that I was child abuser and a rapist. Still others said I was paid by the industry etc. Anything was said to try to discredit me when I spoke to others here. It quickly dawned on me that if they were willing to go to such lengths to lie about me (who they didn’t even know) what about their stories about their stay in the program? What lengths would they go to discredit them? Did they make up all those stories of abuse just to make the program look bad and try to dissuade other parents from sending their kids. This answer has to be yes and I know many of you wont admit it but you know it to be true also. It is very unlikely that a person would lie about one person to discredit them and then maintain the truth when trying to discredit the program.
Do you see what I am saying? This is why I question many of the posts here. This is work that you yourselves should be doing so that I could move on.
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[quote"TheWho"]Do you see what I am saying? This is why I question many of the posts here. This is work that you yourselves should be doing so that I could move on.[/quote]
::deadhorse:: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
What a douche. You already said that nobody believes what is written here and that you're the truth squad, but you never said why you were truth-sqadding when nobody believes it anyway. Do you enjoy posting twelve hours a day every day on Fornits? Are you a glutton for punishment? Or, as I assume, you're a basic invalid stuck in a couple of rooms so you post all the time. Probably sitting in a wheelchair right now. You never, ever leave. And you won't no matter what anyone else does. You're mental, Who. All day and all night every day and every night you're here. You're pretty pathetic.
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Look, Katie, let me try to explain something that you may not see. I think I can speak for many here that your story is moving, touching, sincere and very credible. I think that you will be able to open the eyes of many new readers and parents who come here to fornits to read up on the inside workings of the industry
Why the change of heart? You were so adament before when you claimed that we were all liars about having ever been abused. You even went so far as to claim that less then 1% of all the inmates at these kiddie prisons were ever abused, and then later you changed your number to 0. Now all the sudden you believe this girl. Why?
But now lets say in addition to your story you start posting about how a program parent who you never met drove their son to suicide or that programs aggravate diabetes to the point of causing death and that a kid who died from cancer at age 27 was the responsibility of the program he attended 10 years ago. You further post that I rape and murder children, I work for the industry and am an Edcon. These are all stories intended to make myself, programs and program parents look bad.
If the stories are true then why should we care? Everyone knows you hate being held accountable, but as long as you post on here that isnt going to change.
So what we would know is that you are willing to make up stories (or stand by the sidelines and say nothing while others do) to make programs, parents and staff look bad.
Now what would this say about you written account at Cross creek? Should you expect the readers to believe you were honest in your personal account at Cross Creek or would you expect us to believe you would say just about anything to make the place look bad because you hated the place and some of the staff?
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This has been explained to you on several occasions. There is no reason to make up stories about these places, or you and your kiddie abusing friends. The truth about how abusive these places are is damning enough.
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[quote"TheWho"]Do you see what I am saying? This is why I question many of the posts here. This is work that you yourselves should be doing so that I could move on.
::deadhorse:: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
What a douche. You already said that nobody believes what is written here and that you're the truth squad, but you never said why you were truth-sqadding when nobody believes it anyway. Do you enjoy posting twelve hours a day every day on Fornits? Are you a glutton for punishment? Or, as I assume, you're a basic invalid stuck in a couple of rooms so you post all the time. Probably sitting in a wheelchair right now. You never, ever leave. And you won't no matter what anyone else does. You're mental, Who. All day and all night every day and every night you're here. You're pretty pathetic.[/quote]
That's a pretty hilarious image, actually.
See, I am a little different. I see an injustice against people who cannot defend themselves and I just have to speak up. .
How did pretending to be RobertBruce's sock puppet help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be an AARC insider recommending a non-existent facility defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be a drug using burn out from Kids Hleping Kids (I think it was) defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did "laughing" at the boy from WWASP who described his sexual abuse and torture help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did saying that Liam Sceff and all the survivors whose experience is accounted for at HEAL help those who cannot defend themselves?
Who reads reports of teenagers’ torture and decides to “fight injustice” on “behalf of people who cannot defend themselves” by …..anchoring yourself on an internet message board for those teens, and “tolling” it? Telling the survivors you come across that they are lying, taunting them (including dear Katie) and lying to promote the facilities where the teens are tortured in.
As a reminder—you have already claimed to have “fiduciary interest” in Aspen. From here on in, get your lies straight
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Think about it from a readers perspective. That is why I question posters here, because I see these inconsistencies here all the time and no one but myself will call them out on it. There is such a drive to make all programs appear evil that the posters are willing to fabricate stories to attain their goal
We've seen first hand how you get such a kick out (not to mention sexual gratification) of kids abuse stories, but do you have a single piece of evidence to suggest even one story posted on here was made up?
I'll settle for a single one.
That is why I am viewed the way I am. I point out the discrepancies and the readers don’t like it.
You don't point out discrepancies. You make things up and then run yourself in circles when held accountable for it. People show you facts and you refuse to acknowledge them. You're proven wrong almost daily and instead of accepting that you attempt to attack survivors. When people throw it back at you, you claim you're being trolled. Explain to me how this adds anything of substance to the board? You may think you're the devil's advocate on here but you would have to actually provide facts in order to qualify. People view you this way because you bring it on yourself.
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See, I am a little different. I see an injustice against people who cannot defend themselves and I just have to speak up. People should be free to post what ever they wish, but if they are lying for reasons of hurting innocent people then they should be held accountable or at the very least be challenged. That is what I do
You think far too highly of yourself. You've never caught anyone in a lie on here, yet you've been proven wrong on countless occasions. You dismiss survivors abuse stories simply because you dont want it to be true. In addition you yourself have lied about posters on here who got the better of you.
You claimed Deborah lost custody of her children.
You claimed Dysfunction ignored his children
You claimed I was bi-sexual.
So tell us Peter, what were your reasons for lying? Try out that accountability for once, see how it feels.
I haven’t humiliated or bashed anyone who hasn’t bashed me or someone else first.. at least not knowingly
That's because you cant. You try, you just arent very good at it. Let me ask you though, you're so concerned for child abusers and absent parents. Where is your concern for the kids who are locked in these places and abused. That's who we're here for.
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How did pretending to be RobertBruce's sock puppet help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be an AARC insider recommending a non-existent facility defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be a drug using burn out from Kids Hleping Kids (I think it was) defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did "laughing" at the boy from WWASP who described his sexual abuse and torture help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did saying that Liam Sceff and all the survivors whose experience is accounted for at HEAL help those who cannot defend themselves?
Who reads reports of teenagers’ torture and decides to “fight injustice” on “behalf of people who cannot defend themselves” by …..anchoring yourself on an internet message board for those teens, and “tolling” it? Telling the survivors you come across that they are lying, taunting them (including dear Katie) and lying to promote the facilities where the teens are tortured in.
As a reminder—you have already claimed to have “fiduciary interest” in Aspen. From here on in, get your lies straight
Classic! Now if someone is willing to put this much energy into discrediting and lying about a poster they don’t even know imagine the motivation there would be to discredit a program.
Katie, if you are reading this they are accusing me of trolling you! (This may answer your question) Katie knows she was the one who initiated contact and asked me questions. Now she knows the truth as I do. That you will use everyone and anyone to discredit those who do not agree with you. Along with your other long list. You just buried yourself even deeper. I don’t laugh at sexual abuse, rape or abuse children as you would like other to believe. But I bet you would plead for everyone to believe you are telling the truth about your time in the program...
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So you think it is okay to start a thread about someone and bash and humiliate their whole family. Posting their address and phone numbers openly on the web. This must be okay to you because you attack the only person who will stand up to defend them.
You were perfectly okay with this when you weren't on the recieving end of it Peter. Explain the double standard.
I am just trrying to stand up for people who cannot protect themselves. If you feel you are above that then that is what you need to live with. Look around you . People are getting bashed who don’t even post here. But this attacking from the shadows seems to be okay with you for some reason, yet you try to appear better than others.
You are putting the "Beating a dead horse" symbol out there. It seems you are not understanding me so lets make this the last post. I respect your story and am sorry you cannot read an opposing viewpoint without spewing vulgarity at people..
You're complaining after a getting a dose of your own medicine? Why?
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I was the same way. I came here to fornits and read all the horror stories and took them all at face value, as you said.
No you didn't. You denied them all from the word go. You tried to pass yourself off as some industry expert (now we understand why). You claimed you had a better understanding of what the situation was in these places, and then you began trying to attack posters when you were proven wrong.
Then little by little I became comfortable and I started to tell my story and after awhile I noticed that those who didn’t like what I was saying would make up stories about me to discredit me. Some said I was an edcon, others that I was child abuser and a rapist. Still others said I was paid by the industry etc. Anything was said to try to discredit me when I spoke to others here
You told multiple stories. Don't cry about us holding you to your own bullshit.
It quickly dawned on me that if they were willing to go to such lengths to lie about me (who they didn’t even know) what about their stories about their stay in the program? What lengths would they go to discredit them? Did they make up all those stories of abuse just to make the program look bad and try to dissuade other parents from sending their kids. This answer has to be yes and I know many of you wont admit it but you know it to be true also. It is very unlikely that a person would lie about one person to discredit them and then maintain the truth when trying to discredit the program
Does that work both ways? Why hold other people to that standard but not yourself. Peter you have lied about posters on here on multiple occasions. You play games consistently. If your logic is to be taken at face value then that would suggest that you too must be making up stories about these places being safe. In that same regard according to you if a person hasnt lied about you, then his story of abuse can be taken to be truthful correct?
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How did pretending to be RobertBruce's sock puppet help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be an AARC insider recommending a non-existent facility defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be a drug using burn out from Kids Hleping Kids (I think it was) defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did "laughing" at the boy from WWASP who described his sexual abuse and torture help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did saying that Liam Sceff and all the survivors whose experience is accounted for at HEAL help those who cannot defend themselves?
Who reads reports of teenagers’ torture and decides to “fight injustice” on “behalf of people who cannot defend themselves” by …..anchoring yourself on an internet message board for those teens, and “tolling” it? Telling the survivors you come across that they are lying, taunting them (including dear Katie) and lying to promote the facilities where the teens are tortured in.
As a reminder—you have already claimed to have “fiduciary interest” in Aspen. From here on in, get your lies straight
Classic! Now if someone is willing to put this much energy into discrediting and lying about a poster they don’t even know imagine the motivation there would be to discredit a program.
Katie, if you are reading this they are accusing me of trolling you! (This may answer your question) Katie knows she was the one who initiated contact and asked me questions. Now she knows the truth as I do. That you will use everyone and anyone to discredit those who do not agree with you. Along with your other long list. You just buried yourself even deeper. I don’t laugh at sexual abuse, rape or abuse children as you would like other to believe. But I bet you would plead for everyone to believe you are telling the truth about your time in the program...
I doubt if she is listening, who.
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Classic! Now if someone is willing to put this much energy into discrediting and lying about a poster they don’t even know imagine the motivation there would be to discredit a program
Classic! If someone is willing to put this much energy into discrediting and lying about a poster they don't even know imagine the motivation there would be to claim an abusive kiddie prison is safe.
I don’t laugh at sexual abuse, rape or abuse children as you would like other to believe.
Yes you do. You just tried to edit it away later. The posts had already been quoted though so you were already outed. Later you tried to attribute your posts to me and were banned for it. Or dont you remember? You know the kid who was duct tapped, thrown into the ocean, and sexually abused. You said it was "your favorite."
But I bet you would plead for everyone to believe you are telling the truth about your time in the program...
I guess that depends on who you're actually talking to. Or is this part of your ongoing paranoia that every guest poster is me attacking you from the shadows. No Peter, I always want to take credit for making you look stupid. In any event I don't need you to believe that I was abused, you're too stupid and brainwashed to ever accept it. Besides I was there, I know what happened, the kids I was incarcertated with know what happened, many of the posters here believe what happened, and more then that, a judge believes it happened. So keep insisting it didnt, meanwhile I've got Bucci's check coming in the mail.
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[quote"TheWho"]Do you see what I am saying? This is why I question many of the posts here. This is work that you yourselves should be doing so that I could move on.
::deadhorse:: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
What a douche. You already said that nobody believes what is written here and that you're the truth squad, but you never said why you were truth-sqadding when nobody believes it anyway. Do you enjoy posting twelve hours a day every day on Fornits? Are you a glutton for punishment? Or, as I assume, you're a basic invalid stuck in a couple of rooms so you post all the time. Probably sitting in a wheelchair right now. You never, ever leave. And you won't no matter what anyone else does. You're mental, Who. All day and all night every day and every night you're here. You're pretty pathetic.[/quote]
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How did pretending to be RobertBruce's sock puppet help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be an AARC insider recommending a non-existent facility defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be a drug using burn out from Kids Hleping Kids (I think it was) defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did "laughing" at the boy from WWASP who described his sexual abuse and torture help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did saying that Liam Sceff and all the survivors whose experience is accounted for at HEAL help those who cannot defend themselves?
Who reads reports of teenagers’ torture and decides to “fight injustice” on “behalf of people who cannot defend themselves” by …..anchoring yourself on an internet message board for those teens, and “tolling” it? Telling the survivors you come across that they are lying, taunting them (including dear Katie) and lying to promote the facilities where the teens are tortured in.
As a reminder—you have already claimed to have “fiduciary interest” in Aspen. From here on in, get your lies straight
Classic! Now if someone is willing to put this much energy into discrediting and lying about a poster they don’t even know imagine the motivation there would be to discredit a program.
Katie, if you are reading this they are accusing me of trolling you! (This may answer your question) Katie knows she was the one who initiated contact and asked me questions. Now she knows the truth as I do. That you will use everyone and anyone to discredit those who do not agree with you. Along with your other long list. You just buried yourself even deeper. I don’t laugh at sexual abuse, rape or abuse children as you would like other to believe. But I bet you would plead for everyone to believe you are telling the truth about your time in the program...
Here is where you were caught claiming to be a burn out in kids helping kids forum:
http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic. ... 90#p167874 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=13598&hilit=littlecats&start=90#p167874)
Posted by LittleCat:
"See, Thats what I mean, you attack me left and right, say I am shady and my business is shady and you dont know me personally or what business I am in ..... What is wrong with you?"
After reading your posts from other threads, I can see why you'd want to be a baghead. See below from the KHK forum:
I'm sorry but....
Posted: 2005-11-22 14:10:00
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On 2005-11-22 14:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Drugs are fucking GREAT! I'm glad I got sent to a program 'cause I learned about all the other drugs I had been missing out on. I don't think I ever would have tried crystal meth, cocaine, or heroin if I hadn't heard how great they were from other people in the program.
That's the best thing I walked away from the program with, a desire to do more drugs."
LittleCat responded:
That is true!! I started smoking pot in high school and after 3 years I moved onto Mescaline (brown organic rocks!!). I think the pot raised my awareness and made me smart enough to realize that I needed to move onto better stuff. I still smoke pot once in a while, but after I wake up, some days, and rmember I blew my paycheck on coke I feel really stupid. Maybe I should stick with pot and work on getting my G.E.D. I wish more people would write articles like that, it makes me feel better about my choices and shit.
Thanks for the post
Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =60#149107 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=5057&forum=25&start=60#149107)
I wonder if other ASR parents, therapists or your daughter know about your little habits? I guess I was right (even if by accident) that you're pretty shady. At the very least you are an unbearable hypocrite. And again, it's the kid's fault and the kid needs help, right? Gimme a break, man.
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Not only were you lying about being a teen drug user, by denying it happened, you are lying again. If I wanted to take the time, I could quote each word you accused of posting above. You lie shamelessnessly, and with full knowledge you are engaged in deceit.
One wonders what you did OFF fornits so that you are driven to "defend the helpless against injustice" by laughing at accounts of torture, and lying to promote the AARC, CEDU, and any institution which abducts, and imprisons teens. Fact is, no typical "parent" would behave as do you.
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One wonders what you did OFF fornits so that you are driven to "defend the helpless against injustice" by laughing at accounts of torture, and lying to promote the AARC, CEDU, and any institution which abducts, and imprisons teens. Fact is, no typical "parent" would behave as do you.
still on with the lies... I see... carry on. The main thing is this keeps you happy. The down side is that somepeople actually may buy into your crap.
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The It derives pleasure from manipulating people, period. If he figures he can take someone down the garden path by exploiting some ambiguity of language he will. But if that doesn't work, he has no problem with out and out deceit. It doesn't matter to him, the only point is to get a reaction. His behaviour is similar to that of serial murders, who, once in custody, pretend to wish to divulge information about unsolved crimes, but really don't want anything but attention. He loves to make folks dance. He isn't concerned with his own credibility, just with exerting control over other people, whether it's by enraging them, or deceiving them, or as he must do in his work exploiting people's misery, feigning empathy. The only goal for him is to get a response that he feels he controlled.
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The It derives pleasure from manipulating people, period. If he figures he can take someone down the garden path by exploiting some ambiguity of language he will. But if that doesn't work, he has no problem with out and out deceit. It doesn't matter to him, the only point is to get a reaction. His behaviour is similar to that of serial murders, who, once in custody, pretend to wish to divulge information about unsolved crimes, but really don't want anything but attention. He loves to make folks dance. He isn't concerned with his own credibility, just with exerting control over other people, whether it's by enraging them, or deceiving them, or as he must do in his work exploiting people's misery, feigning empathy. The only goal for him is to get a response that he feels he controlled.
The above is from a guy who judges people by their weight and the weight of peoples spouses. He critisizes anyone who decides to go back to school to get a degree to better themselves and mocks people as cult members if they dont agree with him.
Ha,Ha,Ha I feel like I am in 6th grade here. Oh yea!!! na,na,na, your mother goes down on Egyptians. Ha,Ha,Ha Thats Funny!!
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The It derives pleasure from manipulating people, period. If he figures he can take someone down the garden path by exploiting some ambiguity of language he will. But if that doesn't work, he has no problem with out and out deceit. It doesn't matter to him, the only point is to get a reaction. His behaviour is similar to that of serial murders, who, once in custody, pretend to wish to divulge information about unsolved crimes, but really don't want anything but attention. He loves to make folks dance. He isn't concerned with his own credibility, just with exerting control over other people, whether it's by enraging them, or deceiving them, or as he must do in his work exploiting people's misery, feigning empathy. The only goal for him is to get a response that he feels he controlled.
Nah. You all still give him way too much credit. He's just a narciscistic asshole whose head is too far up his own ass to understand just how stupid he really is. He believes he's above reproach and feels he shouldnt be held accountable for his own actions. He believes in standards for others, but not himself. He imagines himself some noble hero and he hates it when show him facts about himself that discredit his delusion. He thinks he's a lot smarter than he is, and he thinks if he avoids truths, they go away. This guy has all the depth of a puddle and he's fun to pick on. He so ardently believes in this industry that getting him riled up and watching him run himself rampant in an effort to avoid accountablility only helps us in the end. He showcases exactly what kind of nutjobs work at these kiddie prisons, and he drives parents away.
Now, where is that post where you asked to have your guest post linked. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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That and he murdered his own son.
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The It derives pleasure from manipulating people, period. If he figures he can take someone down the garden path by exploiting some ambiguity of language he will. But if that doesn't work, he has no problem with out and out deceit. It doesn't matter to him, the only point is to get a reaction. His behaviour is similar to that of serial murders, who, once in custody, pretend to wish to divulge information about unsolved crimes, but really don't want anything but attention. He loves to make folks dance. He isn't concerned with his own credibility, just with exerting control over other people, whether it's by enraging them, or deceiving them, or as he must do in his work exploiting people's misery, feigning empathy. The only goal for him is to get a response that he feels he controlled.
The above is from a guy who judges people by their weight and the weight of peoples spouses. He critisizes anyone who decides to go back to school to get a degree to better themselves and mocks people as cult members if they dont agree with him.
Ha,Ha,Ha I feel like I am in 6th grade here. Oh yea!!! na,na,na, your mother goes down on Egyptians. Ha,Ha,Ha Thats Funny!!
Ha,Ha,Ha :D
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The above is a prime example of the total disregard the It has for it's crediblity. The It makes this same assertion, over and over again, knowing full well that the accusation is not based in reality. So It has no concern with presenting coherent thought. The only aim is to induce a reaction. It doesn't even bother to try to make sense once It feels that It has found a trigger. It doesn't believe in the industry, It just found a niche where It could indulge it's depraved nature.
tt has no standard, only whims and desires. It is entirely devoid of the make-up of a human personality. It operates to fulfill it's instincts, like a big lizard eating carrion.
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Whereas, Ajax13, has no use for facts and the truth. Each time he is faced with facts he resorts to name calling, asking why some is fat or spouse is obese. Makes fun of peoples kids who enjoy hockey as a sport, placing nicknames on fellow survivors if they dont share the same view as Ajax13.
It is an example of finding fault with a program at all costs, When he can no longer find any he resorts to personal attacks.
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Put me down for $50...all of it to go to Fornits hosting fees!
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The It derives pleasure from manipulating people, period. If he figures he can take someone down the garden path by exploiting some ambiguity of language he will. But if that doesn't work, he has no problem with out and out deceit. It doesn't matter to him, the only point is to get a reaction. His behaviour is similar to that of serial murders, who, once in custody, pretend to wish to divulge information about unsolved crimes, but really don't want anything but attention. He loves to make folks dance. He isn't concerned with his own credibility, just with exerting control over other people, whether it's by enraging them, or deceiving them, or as he must do in his work exploiting people's misery, feigning empathy. The only goal for him is to get a response that he feels he controlled.
This is a GREAT analysis of TheWho. It's all about control and nothing about dialogue.
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Whereas, Ajax13, has no use for facts and the truth. Each time he is faced with facts he resorts to name calling, asking why some is fat or spouse is obese. Makes fun of peoples kids who enjoy hockey as a sport, placing nicknames on fellow survivors if they dont share the same view as Ajax13.
It is an example of finding fault with a program at all costs, When he can no longer find any he resorts to personal attacks.
Whoever you are you nailed Ajax down.
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The It derives pleasure from manipulating people, period. If he figures he can take someone down the garden path by exploiting some ambiguity of language he will. But if that doesn't work, he has no problem with out and out deceit. It doesn't matter to him, the only point is to get a reaction. His behaviour is similar to that of serial murders, who, once in custody, pretend to wish to divulge information about unsolved crimes, but really don't want anything but attention. He loves to make folks dance. He isn't concerned with his own credibility, just with exerting control over other people, whether it's by enraging them, or deceiving them, or as he must do in his work exploiting people's misery, feigning empathy. The only goal for him is to get a response that he feels he controlled.
This is a GREAT analysis of TheWho. It's all about control and nothing about dialogue.
Let's not forget TheIt's pathological need to get the last word. See previous post. It posts all day and all night every day and every night. It has no life outside of Fornits and has become what it once decried.
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Who is Thelt?
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Yes, it has over 4000 logged-in posts and at least three times that many as anons. we're talking close to 16,000 posts over 4 plus years. Talk about your no-life-having Fornits zombie. That's Whooter. No life outside Fornits whatsover. Obviously not parenting any kids. Remaining kids must be running wild and soon to be locked up in kiddie jails of their own.
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Yes, it has over 4000 logged-in posts and at least three times that many as anons. we're talking close to 16,000 posts over 4 plus years. Talk about your no-life-having Fornits zombie. That's Whooter. No life outside Fornits whatsover. Obviously not parenting any kids. Remaining kids must be running wild and soon to be locked up in kiddie jails of their own.
I usually don't go too far (from the computer).
Are you in a wheelchair, Who? Or did you just choose to post 16,000 times?? You're the only poster with more than the admins added together. Congratulations, you've no life.
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Peter it's interesting you would admonish Ajax for supposedly making fun of some of someone for weight issues. Here's a post from you where you make fun of a kid being murdered and rather then blame the kids killer, you blamed it on McDonald's.
3. Do you believe the 300lbs asst. counselor who sat on the kid at Eckert and killed him should have been brought up on criminal charges?
No I don?t, at 300lbs he might have sat down and then not been able to get up because of his weight issues, I wasn?t there, there could be reasonable doubt. I think the person feeding him should be charged, if its McDonalds then they should take responsibility. ?.after all this is America
http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16007&p=247570&hilit=McDonalds#p247570
How does that fit into your claim now to actually care about these kids Peter?
By the way, where is your post where you gave permission to link up all your guest post? I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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Who is Thelt?
Thelt is the phelt
that will melt
when hit with a belt.
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The It derives pleasure from manipulating people, period. If he figures he can take someone down the garden path by exploiting some ambiguity of language he will. But if that doesn't work, he has no problem with out and out deceit. It doesn't matter to him, the only point is to get a reaction. His behaviour is similar to that of serial murders, who, once in custody, pretend to wish to divulge information about unsolved crimes, but really don't want anything but attention. He loves to make folks dance. He isn't concerned with his own credibility, just with exerting control over other people, whether it's by enraging them, or deceiving them, or as he must do in his work exploiting people's misery, feigning empathy. The only goal for him is to get a response that he feels he controlled.
This is a GREAT analysis of TheWho. It's all about control and nothing about dialogue.
Spot on.
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Whereas, Ajax13, has no use for facts and the truth. Each time he is faced with facts he resorts to name calling, asking why some is fat or spouse is obese. Makes fun of peoples kids who enjoy hockey as a sport, placing nicknames on fellow survivors if they dont share the same view as Ajax13.
It is an example of finding fault with a program at all costs, When he can no longer find any he resorts to personal attacks.
whoa, you got this guys number.
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The It derives pleasure from manipulating people, period. If he figures he can take someone down the garden path by exploiting some ambiguity of language he will. But if that doesn't work, he has no problem with out and out deceit. It doesn't matter to him, the only point is to get a reaction. His behaviour is similar to that of serial murders, who, once in custody, pretend to wish to divulge information about unsolved crimes, but really don't want anything but attention. He loves to make folks dance. He isn't concerned with his own credibility, just with exerting control over other people, whether it's by enraging them, or deceiving them, or as he must do in his work exploiting people's misery, feigning empathy. The only goal for him is to get a response that he feels he controlled.
This is a GREAT analysis of TheWho. It's all about control and nothing about dialogue.
Spot on.
whoa, you got this guys number.
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Peter it's interesting you would admonish Ajax for supposedly making fun of some of someone for weight issues. Here's a post from you where you make fun of a kid being murdered and rather then blame the kids killer, you blamed it on McDonald's.
3. Do you believe the 300lbs asst. counselor who sat on the kid at Eckert and killed him should have been brought up on criminal charges?
No I don?t, at 300lbs he might have sat down and then not been able to get up because of his weight issues, I wasn?t there, there could be reasonable doubt. I think the person feeding him should be charged, if its McDonalds then they should take responsibility. ?.after all this is America
http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16007&p=247570&hilit=McDonalds#p247570
How does that fit into your claim now to actually care about these kids Peter?
Ohhh... I get it now. It was The Who that was making fun of people based on weight issues. Thanks, RB!
By the way, where is your post where you gave permission to link up all your guest post? I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
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Peter it's interesting you would admonish Ajax for supposedly making fun of some of someone for weight issues. Here's a post from you where you make fun of a kid being murdered and rather then blame the kids killer, you blamed it on McDonald's.
3. Do you believe the 300lbs asst. counselor who sat on the kid at Eckert and killed him should have been brought up on criminal charges?
No I don?t, at 300lbs he might have sat down and then not been able to get up because of his weight issues, I wasn?t there, there could be reasonable doubt. I think the person feeding him should be charged, if its McDonalds then they should take responsibility. ?.after all this is America
http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16007&p=247570&hilit=McDonalds#p247570
How does that fit into your claim now to actually care about these kids Peter?
By the way, where is your post where you gave permission to link up all your guest post? I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.
Ohhh... I get it now. It was The Who that was making fun of people based on weight issues. Thanks, RB!
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yes thats correct. and thewho has been caught in anther big lie that he's trolling full time to bury so he can't be here right now.
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Here's where TheWho was caught lying again. It shows RobertBruce has been correct all along and TheWho has been lying about HLA.
Adjudicated children: There were a number of children who had been convicted of a crime and were sentenced to probation rather than jail time, part of that probation requirement was that they enroll and complete a program like HLA. Those adjudicated children that were remanded to HLA, kept a probation officer
and met with them throughtout their stay at HLA and were not appropriate for HLA's program. A letter was required from HLA to their probation officer stating the date of enrollment and date of projected completion. The child must then complete the program to fulfill his probation requirements. According to
documents I received, there was only one child that left HLA to fulfill jail time, then returned to complete HLA's program. There were children that were found guilty of blowing up a car, shooting out parent's window, incest, misdemeamor felonies, etc. This does not include psychiatric diagnosis of pedophilia, schizophrenia,bulemia, or any other 'patient' anomalies that were enrolled at HLA, per HLA tending psychiatrists reports. Again, if you wish to research this, there is a form you may fill out with the ORS under "Georgia's Sunshine Laws" which grants public access, thus to their reports on HLA(the hidden ones). The managing attorney for the ORS is Nina Edidin. According to Nina Edidin, at the time, she stated, she 'thought' in her letter to my attorney that the ORS only kept files for 2 years, but as we re-stated, we were fortunate that the request was under two years. Miraculously documents dated back to 1998, 2001, etc. appeared. A letter will not suffice as it took a year and a half seeking ORS compliance as a citizen, and only after a private attorney representing me, stepped in, did I receive actual investigative reports, including inter-office emails of all parties, including Assistant District Attorney Mark Cicero. Note: I was repeatedly told by the ORS that they did not understand what I was requesting. The ORS is shut tight to protect themselves where HLA is concerned and it is no different with LCSO as the ORS found in their investigation. What goes around, comes around. The cost is just over $700.00 and you shall receive paper documents, sloppily re-dacted, somewhere between 2500- 2900 pages. One may do the same with LCSO, there you will find the 911 calls within a short period of time 8 attempted suicides, 'Life flight', 5 run-aways, rape, etc. (co-operation, again is limited). The 911 call logs were also passed out during a Lumpkin County Board meeting re: Mountain Brook Academy. One may be able to call the Lumpkin County Board and ask for a copy of them.
These documents will provide answers to what you are asking of Robert and confirm what Robert states and unfortunately more regarding the politics in Georgia. Protection under the Law only seems to relate to Georgia's governing agencies covering their own arces as apparent throughout the ORS report.
Thank you for posting this, Jill. It serves as an object lesson that HLA (and other programs) will do whatever they can to preclude this information from becoming public. If you'd like to send me copies of what you received, I'd be glad to scan the docs and make them (more) public.
I hope Mr. Reuben is reading this, as he enrolled his son at HLA while these events were transpiring. Either he didn't do his due diligence, or he didn't care about what he saw. In either case, a parent should ask themselves "Do I want John Reuben making decisions for my family?"
Hurts, huh Whootie?
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You bet it does. Almost five years of TheWho's work just got flushed.
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You bet it does. Almost five years of TheWho's work just got flushed.
Actually if you take the time to read it. It Shows thewho was right all the time. HLA has been transparent and has notified the authorities on each occasion and even went a little overboard when they called in a "life flight copter" after a student attempted to take their life. What is revealing about the reports is that there isnt any evidence of abuse or excessive physical labor or attempted starvation as RobertBruce as indicated. There is also no investigation of arson.
So apparently when you peel away the outer layer HLA has been honest all along. What remains are Bruces allegations of Arson, Starvation and physical abuse thru labor. The reports indicate that these were made up to discredit HLA. But we will give Bruce an opportunity to come forward with the facts.
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You bet it does. Almost five years of TheWho's work just got flushed.
Yes and he's very frustrated by it. He went from "there has never been a suicide attempt" to HLA "went overboard" with life-flight. So TheWho thinks this girl should not have been medi-vac'ed and should have been left to die. Even with life-flight she's permanently brain damaged today. Nice guy, huh?
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You bet it does. Almost five years of TheWho's work just got flushed.
Yes and he's very frustrated by it. He went from "there has never been a suicide attempt" to HLA "went overboard" with life-flight. So TheWho thinks this girl should not have been medi-vac'ed and should have been left to die. Even with life-flight she's permanently brain damaged today. Nice guy, huh?
Thats awful, isnt it. But one point that we have to agree with thewho on is that HLA was very responible and open with the local authorites. The reports are very extensive and detailed.
On the previous note. No one (or thewho) should not blame Bruce or hold it against him for making up stories about HLA. The time there was very frustrating for him and sine HLA didnt do anything wrong the only means of retaliation is to make up stories to try to discredit them to other parents and readers. He is just a kid and I wouldnt hold that against him.
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You bet it does. Almost five years of TheWho's work just got flushed.
Yes and he's very frustrated by it. He went from "there has never been a suicide attempt" to HLA "went overboard" with life-flight. So TheWho thinks this girl should not have been medi-vac'ed and should have been left to die. Even with life-flight she's permanently brain damaged today. Nice guy, huh?
Thats awful, isnt it. But one point that we have to agree with thewho on is that HLA was very responible and open with the local authorites. The reports are very extensive and detailed.
On the previous note. No one (or thewho) should not blame Bruce or hold it against him for making up stories about HLA. The time there was very frustrating for him and sine HLA didnt do anything wrong the only means of retaliation is to make up stories to try to discredit them to other parents and readers. He is just a kid and I wouldnt hold that against him.
Bruce's allegations of abuse have already been substantiated by HLA staff, other kids and parents, In fact, HLA was forced to change their meal and labor practices because of these complaints. I thought you were an HLA "expert"? If so, you'd have known this already, asi ti is well documented here and with the ORS.
Incidentally, TheWho commenting about what is or isn't in the ORS reports is odd because he hasn't read them. How can TheWho draw his own conlusions without looking at any source material? Hmmm... And he's not just a kid, so we can't just say "give him a break" can we? As an adult and self-described "truth troller" how can TheWho be believed now when he already admitted he has never seen any reports of any kind? Sorry, Who, but you'll have to provide evidence of your claims.
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TheWho isnt accusing HLA of anything. Bruce is, the burden of proof is on him. So far we havent seen any evidence in the ORS report to substantiate RobertBruces claim HLA tried to starve him to death or forced him into excessive physical labor or that HLA abused him. No one is calling him a liar, we are just waiting for proof from authorities, police report, ORS etc. All of it is documented except the claims that Bruce insists occured. So if he didnt make them up then where is the evidence?
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Yes, they used food as punishment. While on restrictions you had a limited number of minutes to eat. If you didn't throw your food away when trash came by you were further punished. If you talked during the meal, which was taken outside away from the group, your meal would be taken away.
...it appears they aborted this practice years ago but still I dont understand why they would do this or what they expected to gain. Pissing the kid off more or having them malnourished isnt going to help things from an educational perspective or emotional one.
Oh, I guess never mind about the "restrictions diet" meme you've been going on about. It appears you already acknowledged and admitted it years ago along with an admission that you couldn't see any value in doing it. Just want to set the record straight that what you're demanding Robert produce now is something you already admitted to several years ago. So much for "honest dialogue" huh, Whooter. Maybe you should read your own posts before you call Robert a liar, as you've just called yourself one. Stings, huh?
Now, my question is for John Reuben. Since HLA has been "very transparent" in reporting the crimes that happen on its campus, which are plentiful, 3000 pages of violations, etc. in the ORS report, why did you send Max there knowing it was a very dangerous environment? Why did you send a glue-sniffer to a facility that houses sex offenders, rapists, pedophiles and parolees from juvie prisons?
And why did you think it appropriate to keep Max from visiting his dying mother or attending her funeral?
Not sure why you're asking Robert for this, Who. See your post above where you have already admitted HLA did starve kids. Since you already admitted that they did it and that you thought it was wrong, I'm not sure why you keep asking about it. Or were you lying then when you admitted they did it? Lying then, lying now, not sure which, but it's definitley one of the two. ; )
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Yes, they used food as punishment. While on restrictions you had a limited number of minutes to eat. If you didn't throw your food away when trash came by you were further punished. If you talked during the meal, which was taken outside away from the group, your meal would be taken away.
...it appears they aborted this practice years ago but still I dont understand why they would do this or what they expected to gain. Pissing the kid off more or having them malnourished isnt going to help things from an educational perspective or emotional one.
Not sure why you're asking Robert for this, Who. See your post above where you have already admitted HLA did starve kids. Since you already admitted that they did it and that you thought it was wrong, I'm not sure why you keep asking about it. Or were you lying then when you admitted they did it? Lying then, lying now, not sure which, but it's definitley one of the two. ; )
You found the post thank you. (it helps to provide a link so we can see the discussion in context but this helps). So what we are looking for is evidence of starvation. Just to be clear Starvation is the severest form of malnutrition and would take as a minimum several days in the hospital to recover from this. So Bruce should be able to produce some evidence of his stay i.e. hospital records, police reports and DDS investigation reports which would support his allegations that he was starved.
Using food as a tool is not abusive.... "If you dont finish your peas you dont get dessert"... "No going out tonight unless you finish your plate"...."Keep it up and you will go to your room without supper", "Put your plate in the sink when you are done"..."No talking with your mouth full" etc. etc. These are not criminal acts nor are they designed to induce starvation or early onset of malnutrition.
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Flip...flop. "I said 'thanks, but no thanks' to a normal diet!" Lols. Robert never said he was "starved" either. Post a link where Robert says this. I believe ORS said that this diet was less than half of the minimum calorie intake required for kids this age. I guess ORS is lying again, too.
Before you said the restrictions diet was wrong and that you just couldn't see what HLA was trying to acheive with it, but now you say it was appropriate. Flip...flop...
Just want to point out that you can't have it both ways, Whooter. You either hate children or you don't! Ha, ha, ha.
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Flip...flop. "I said 'thanks, but no thanks' to a normal diet!" Lols. Robert never said he was "starved" either. Post a link where Robert says this. I believe ORS said that this diet was less than half of the minimum calorie intake required for kids this age. I guess ORS is lying again, too.
Before you said the restrictions diet was wrong and that you just couldn't see what HLA was trying to acheive with it, but now you say it was appropriate. Flip...flop...
Just want to point out that you can't have it both ways, Whooter. You either hate children or you don't! Ha, ha, ha.
Bruce talking about being starved (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=337458&sid=cb86a1ae8e99a5768d271212b9a0c430&sid=cb86a1ae8e99a5768d271212b9a0c430#p337458)
Then what really happened:
Work assignments involve splitting wood for elderly individuals who don't have enough money to always pay for heating and cleaning around campus most of the time. I'm not sure why and how having students do chores and actually allow them to witness the positive gratitude from the individuals receiving wood constitutes abuse. I grew up in a family where we all had to do chores around the house. Starvation isn't a part of restrictions, malnutrition isn't a part of restrictions. Kids on restrictions actually experience short-term consequences and are given freedoms back within the week most of the time. That's not the way the real world works. Consequences for disrespect or defiance can get you thrown out of school and possibly in jail. HLA kids can mess up and learn why rules are necessary for everyone.
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Everyone should there's a reason he's not linking to the above post. It's because it was made by Function Junction, not someone known for his honesty.
Now Peter, to answer your question let me first thank you for accepting the fact that the starvation diet we were fed while incarcerated at HLA was abhorent.
That being said let me provide you with the definition for a starvation diet:
http://http://www.netwellness.org/question.cfm/28515.htm
Now before we progress any further I'll ask you if you're actually interested in learning the truth about this place, or if you're simply going to play games.
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Starvation, Starvation diet, Restricted diet...which is it? Your story keeps changing. Is this the same as your allegations of abuse and excessive physical labor. Someone is not being very truthful..tsk tsk
If you dont start providing proof of your posts then we will have to say: "Go to your room without supper"
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This is Dr. McFeeely in the house, giving a special shout-out for Revenge Fantasy Girl.
National Breast Cancer Awareness Month is coming up in October; what the hell, let's get started early.
In the spirit of this time, Dr. McFeeely would be happy to give you a complimentary breast exam.
Would you like to know why they call me Dr. McFeeely? Well, here's your chance!
The first thing we'll have to do is get that shirt off...
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Since when do psychologists give breast exams? I guess all that chat box chatter about hummers lured you out.
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Starvation, Starvation diet, Restricted diet...which is it? Your story keeps changing. Is this the same as your allegations of abuse and excessive physical labor. Someone is not being very truthful..tsk tsk
If you dont start providing proof of your posts then we will have to say: "Go to your room without supper"
You havent answered the question Peter.
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This is Dr. McFeeely in the house, giving a special shout-out for Revenge Fantasy Girl.
National Breast Cancer Awareness Month is coming up in October; what the hell, let's get started early.
In the spirit of this time, Dr. McFeeely would be happy to give you a complimentary breast exam.
Would you like to know why they call me Dr. McFeeely? Well, here's your chance!
The first thing we'll have to do is get that shirt off...
Dr. McFeeely is TheWho, people. I don't think it's funny to joke about breast cancer when your wife died from it. Not to mention your desire to try to fuck "troubled teens." You're fucking sick, Who.
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Starvation, Starvation diet, Restricted diet...which is it? Your story keeps changing. Is this the same as your allegations of abuse and excessive physical labor. Someone is not being very truthful..tsk tsk
If you dont start providing proof of your posts then we will have to say: "Go to your room without supper"
"Starvation Diet" - Any diet consisting of 700 calories or less per day.
So I guess Robert was telling the truth about the starvation diet at HLA which consisted of 6 pieces of bread, three pieces of cheese and water for an entire day's intake. Technically speaking, this is a starvation diet. Now if you could just link to any post where RB says HLA tried to "starve him to death" you'd have a point. So far you just look like an idiot for your flip-flops.
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Starvation, Starvation diet, Restricted diet...which is it? Your story keeps changing. Is this the same as your allegations of abuse and excessive physical labor. Someone is not being very truthful..tsk tsk
If you dont start providing proof of your posts then we will have to say: "Go to your room without supper"
"Starvation Diet" - Any diet consisting of 700 calories or less per day.
So I guess Robert was telling the truth about the starvation diet at HLA which consisted of 6 pieces of bread, three pieces of cheese and water for an entire day's intake. Technically speaking, this is a starvation diet. Now if you could just link to any post where RB says HLA tried to "starve him to death" you'd have a point. So far you just look like an idiot for your flip-flops.
You and Bruce can say anything you like. I could say my kid was only given 1 piece of bread per day at his local school. But at some point you need to back up your words with proof. That I havent seen.
I havent seen eny evidence of excessive physical labor, arson or abuse.
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OK, glad you caved in on the starvation diet. It's pretty hard to deny once you already admitted it, huh?
Abuse is documented aplenty. Unless you consider rape, sodomy, sexual and physical assaults to be 'wholesome.' 2500 pages of ORS reports outline the abuse at HLA. Read it first, then comment after, please.
RB never accused anyone of arson. Please link to the post where RB accuses anyone of arson.
ORS cited HLA for using kids as illegal laborers. Again, read the report. I'm not sure what the laws say where you live, but forced, unpaid labor for 12 hours a day is illegal where I live. It's illegal because it's abusive.
So that settles your issues.
If none of this was happening, how did ORS compile over 2500 pages of citations against HLA? Makes me wonder.
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2500 pages of ORS violations, wowsers! There goes the "HLA is safe" mantra. That place is downright dangerous.
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So of all the investigations that were done on HLA, 2500 pages worth, there was no abuse found, no arson or signs of starvations of yet. A far cry from the picture that Bruce paints.... starvation, excess labor, arson, abuse etc.
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OK, glad you caved in on the starvation diet. It's pretty hard to deny once you already admitted it, huh?
Abuse is documented aplenty. Unless you consider rape, sodomy, sexual and physical assaults to be 'wholesome.' 2500 pages of ORS reports outline the abuse at HLA. Read it first, then comment after, please.
RB never accused anyone of arson. Please link to the post where RB accuses anyone of arson.
ORS cited HLA for using kids as illegal laborers. Again, read the report. I'm not sure what the laws say where you live, but forced, unpaid labor for 12 hours a day is illegal where I live. It's illegal because it's abusive.
So that settles your issues.
If none of this was happening, how did ORS compile over 2500 pages of citations against HLA? Makes me wonder.
You must have missed this, Whooter. ORS found illegal use of forced labor along with many crimes committed against kids at HLA right on their allegedly "safe" campus including rape, sodomy and numerous batteries. I gues yo ustill haven't read the report, huh?
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OK, glad you caved in on the starvation diet. It's pretty hard to deny once you already admitted it, huh?
Abuse is documented aplenty. Unless you consider rape, sodomy, sexual and physical assaults to be 'wholesome.' 2500 pages of ORS reports outline the abuse at HLA. Read it first, then comment after, please.
RB never accused anyone of arson. Please link to the post where RB accuses anyone of arson.
ORS cited HLA for using kids as illegal laborers. Again, read the report. I'm not sure what the laws say where you live, but forced, unpaid labor for 12 hours a day is illegal where I live. It's illegal because it's abusive.
So that settles your issues.
If none of this was happening, how did ORS compile over 2500 pages of citations against HLA? Makes me wonder.
You must have missed this, Whooter. ORS found illegal use of forced labor along with many crimes committed against kids at HLA right on their allegedly "safe" campus including rape, sodomy and numerous batteries. I gues yo ustill haven't read the report, huh?
The Robert Bruce page I believe it was. QFT..."They made us deliver wood to the elderly who couldnt afford heat. This is abuse!! Why do I have to care about the elderly, let them freeze!! This is about me not them, why should I have to work...its abuse I tell you!! HLA has no right to make me help anyone."
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OK, glad you caved in on the starvation diet. It's pretty hard to deny once you already admitted it, huh?
Abuse is documented aplenty. Unless you consider rape, sodomy, sexual and physical assaults to be 'wholesome.' 2500 pages of ORS reports outline the abuse at HLA. Read it first, then comment after, please.
RB never accused anyone of arson. Please link to the post where RB accuses anyone of arson.
ORS cited HLA for using kids as illegal laborers. Again, read the report. I'm not sure what the laws say where you live, but forced, unpaid labor for 12 hours a day is illegal where I live. It's illegal because it's abusive.
So that settles your issues.
If none of this was happening, how did ORS compile over 2500 pages of citations against HLA? Makes me wonder.
Twenty-five HUNDRED PAGES of violations. That's like 100 pages of violations per graduate. Astounding.
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Twenty-five HUNDRED PAGES of violations. That's like 100 pages of violations per graduate. Astounding.
Bruce I recognize your math. 2500 pages @ 100 pages per graduate. That means you are saying only 25 kids have graduated from HLA. Hmmmm....
Then you also expect us to believe you were starved to death and forced into excessive hard labor ,abused and then the owner burned down the building. Hmmmm....
At least in the ASR thread they are producing some numbers which are close.
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Well no, if I was starved to death I'd probably be dead. Makes sense I guess. In any case you weren't actually talking to me. Again I don't guest post, I've proven this point to you, and now we're simply waiting for you to fufill your end of the bargain.
Peter would you consider testimony from a pro-hla poster to be proof, or are you limiting what constitutes evidence soley to the ORS report?
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In any case you weren't actually talking to me.
Well, if I wasnt talking to you then why did you respond to the post as if I was. Hmmm... very strange person Devin.
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Oh Peter, because you addressed me silly boy:
Bruce I recognize your math. 2500 pages @ 100 pages per graduate. That means you are saying only 25 kids have graduated from HLA. Hmmmm....
Then you also expect us to believe you were starved to death and forced into excessive hard labor ,abused and then the owner burned down the building. Hmmmm....
At least in the ASR thread they are producing some numbers which are close
Just because you were attributing posts to me that weren't actually mine doesn't mean I can't respond to comments you make about what you think I believe or don't believe.
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Oh Peter, because you addressed me silly boy:
Bruce I recognize your math. 2500 pages @ 100 pages per graduate. That means you are saying only 25 kids have graduated from HLA. Hmmmm....
Then you also expect us to believe you were starved to death and forced into excessive hard labor ,abused and then the owner burned down the building. Hmmmm....
At least in the ASR thread they are producing some numbers which are close
Just because you were attributing posts to me that weren't actually mine doesn't mean I can't respond to comments you make about what you think I believe or don't believe.
Its an open forum. You can respond to any post you please. Just dont belly ache about who is who.
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Twenty-five HUNDRED PAGES of violations. That's like 100 pages of violations per graduate. Astounding.
OK, TEN pages of violations per graduate then. TEN PAGES OF VIOLATIONS PER GRADUATE. Think about that, parents.
Either way, would you trust someone likeTheWho that is saying "HLA is the safest place for kids!" when they have amassed nearly 3000 pages of violations in just under ten years? To me, this is an easy decision. HLA obviously can't run its business even in a LEGAL fashion, much less one that meets kids' needs.
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Twenty-five HUNDRED PAGES of violations. That's like 100 pages of violations per graduate. Astounding.
OK, TEN pages of violations per graduate then. TEN PAGES OF VIOLATIONS PER GRADUATE. Think about that, parents.
Either way, would you trust someone likeTheWho that is saying "HLA is the safest place for kids!" when they have amassed nearly 3000 pages of violations in just under ten years? To me, this is an easy decision. HLA obviously can't run its business even in a LEGAL fashion, much less one that meets kids' needs.
Take a look at the size of the report for your local school system. They average close to 1,000 pages per year. That is why the costs are so high to have them copied and distributed.
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Might be time to think about moving Whooter.
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Twenty-five HUNDRED PAGES of violations. That's like 100 pages of violations per graduate. Astounding.
OK, TEN pages of violations per graduate then. TEN PAGES OF VIOLATIONS PER GRADUATE. Think about that, parents.
Either way, would you trust someone likeTheWho that is saying "HLA is the safest place for kids!" when they have amassed nearly 3000 pages of violations in just under ten years? To me, this is an easy decision. HLA obviously can't run its business even in a LEGAL fashion, much less one that meets kids' needs.
Take a look at the size of the report for your local school system. They average close to 1,000 pages per year. That is why the costs are so high to have them copied and distributed.
ORS doesn't have anything to do with local school systems, but it did, however, hit HLA with nearly 3000 pages of violations of the law.
My school system hasn't had a single report of any law broken and it serves about 30,000 kids. Public schools are very, very safe and run by educational professionals.
You can't really compare a shoddily run private detention center like HLA to a public school system, but HLA has about the same amount of rapes and violent assaults per capita as the Georgia penetentiary system.
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I hear ya. I've lived in my district for 30 years and never once has a kid been raped or anything like that. It looks like this happens a lot in 'TBSs' though.
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I hear ya. I've lived in my district for 30 years and never once has a kid been raped or anything like that. It looks like this happens a lot in 'TBSs' though.
30 second google search..... there are hundreds, my friend Pick up a paper!!!
Rape1 (http://http://www3.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO100901/)
Rape2 (http://http://boards.crimelibrary.com/archive/index.php/t-284307.html)
Rape3 (http://http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/001158.html)
Rape4 (http://http://www.care2.com/c2c/people/profile.html?pid=804658449)
Rape5 (http://http://www.wickedlocal.com/winchester/homepage/x1157504550/Former-teacher-faces-additional-rape-charges)
Rape6 (http://http://www.wbz.com/pages/4715384.php?)
Rape7 (http://http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/07/10/52-year-old-hiv-positive-teacher-rapes-12-year-old-student/comment-page-4/)
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Hundreds of rapes in TBS's? Wow, it's worse than I thought. Good thing that doesn't happen in our schools here or I would be looking for blood on that score.
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The first link I looked at, "Rape 7" happened in AFRICA, dum dum. You're not very good at this.
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Rapes happen in the military all the time. That is why fornits works hard to end the institutionalize abuse in the various military's around the world. Without fornits, many more rapes would occur, so why not donate some money.
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The first link I looked at, "Rape 7" happened in AFRICA, dum dum. You're not very good at this.
nice catch, goes to show ya, Its a universal problem, not a program problem.
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Troll says stupid stuff to premise the stupidity it will spew in a post to follow
nice catch, goes to show ya, Its a universal problem, not a program problem.
Troll compliments troll for reasons apparent to everyone but it
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Troll on a roll
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Peter you never answered this question:
Peter would you consider testimony from a pro-hla poster to be proof, or are you limiting what constitutes evidence soley to the ORS report?
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Peter you never answered this question:
Peter would you consider testimony from a pro-hla poster to be proof, or are you limiting what constitutes evidence soley to the ORS report?
I take into account information from all sides. I havent seen the ORS report. I have read small pieces of what has been posted on fornits. These small pieces have been paraphrased by a person who was and or still is in a lawsuit with HLA. I dont think anyone would dispute that the information put out here may be biased based on this. I have information from staff who have been pro and con to HLA and information from survivors who also were pro and con towards HLA. So I am gathering a balanced perspective.
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So in that case a pro-HLA poster acknowleding that we were placed on a starvation diet, and yes it was wrong, would in your mind constitute proof?
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So in that case a pro-HLA poster acknowleding that we were placed on a starvation diet, and yes it was wrong, would in your mind constitute proof?
Of couse not. If I said I had someone who was staff at HLA said it wasnt true. Would you accept that as proof? and then we could move on?
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You would need to provide some sort of coroborating evidence that the person was indeed HLA staff, and tell us exactly who they were, and that instance then yes. Your pal Function Junction won't do.
So then under those terms would that constitute proof?
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You would need to provide some sort of coroborating evidence that the person was indeed HLA staff, and tell us exactly who they were, and that instance then yes. Your pal Function Junction won't do.
So then under those terms would that constitute proof?
I would have to take the same position then. your person wouldnt do either. Seems we would need an independent agency who could report on the number of calories that were being presented to the students and then compare that to state requirements.
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Can you meet that criteria with Function Junction? I can with my sources. Or is this just your way of once again avoiding the truth, because you dont like it?
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Can you meet that criteria with Function Junction? I can with my sources. Or is this just your way of once again avoiding the truth, because you dont like it?
I think you would agree that it would be best to have an independent agency verify what the calorie count was.. was the diet classified as low, extremely low, borderline malnutrition, or starvation. What was the intent of the low calories. Who approved the low calorie diet ... was it a systemic problem, school policy or an individual staff member..etc. etc.
Do you see what I mean?
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You can spin that however you like Peter, I truly don't care. What I'm talking about is someone verifing what we were actually fed. You can have all the third parties you like as far as whether it does or does not constitute a starvation diet. From the sources already provided so far though, it appears as though you've lost that argument already. But if it makes you feel better knock yourself out and find a source to verify if the amount of calories we were fed was healthy or not. I'm just talking about a pro HLA poster verifying the diet.
Do you see what I mean?
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HLA staff member comment:
4. Work assignments involve splitting wood for elderly individuals who don't have enough money to always pay for heating and cleaning around campus most of the time. I'm not sure why and how having students do chores and actually allow them to witness the positive gratitude from the individuals receiving wood constitutes abuse. I grew up in a family where we all had to do chores around the house. Starvation isn't a part of restrictions, malnutrition isn't a part of restrictions. Kids on restrictions actually experience short-term consequences and are given freedoms back within the week most of the time. That's not the way the real world works. Consequences for disrespect or defiance can get you thrown out of school and possibly in jail. HLA kids can mess up and learn why rules are necessary for everyone.
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Which staff member?
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Which staff member?
You know my feelings on this, I am not going to put peoples names on the forum. I dont approve of that.
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Unless you don't like them, then it's okay right Peter?
In any event, by all means link to the post. Otherwise you havent met the criteria, or do you prefer the word "parameters"?
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Unless you don't like them, then it's okay right Peter?
In any event, by all means link to the post. Otherwise you havent met the criteria, or do you prefer the word "parameters"?
Sorry Bruce, but it stops here. You need to get your posts linked up, like I have done at least twice. You call people cowards who dont agree with you and you take pot shots at people from the shadows. I have come clean twice and have had my guest posts gathered and attached to my user name. You insisted that I do it again for a third time... now it is your turn. When you have completed getting all your posts gathered under one user name then we will continue.
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Awww wittle Petey is afraid of a little accountablity. Sit tight Pete, you're about to be shamed again. Once again per your usual MO the moment you have questions you're too afraid to answer you scamper off. You will be held accountable Peter, you can't do anything about it.
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If nobody responds to Robert Bruce "I lick cow testicles" he will go away.
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If nobody responds to Robert Bruce "I lick cow testicles" he will go away.
And I'm sure posts like this one will help a lot too. ::)
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Bruce disrupts this place more than anyone else, I wish he could find someone else to troll besides TheIt.
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Twenty-five HUNDRED PAGES of violations. That's like 100 pages of violations per graduate. Astounding.
OK, TEN pages of violations per graduate then. TEN PAGES OF VIOLATIONS PER GRADUATE. Think about that, parents.
Either way, would you trust someone likeTheWho that is saying "HLA is the safest place for kids!" when they have amassed nearly 3000 pages of violations in just under ten years? To me, this is an easy decision. HLA obviously can't run its business even in a LEGAL fashion, much less one that meets kids' needs.
Take a look at the size of the report for your local school system. They average close to 1,000 pages per year. That is why the costs are so high to have them copied and distributed.
ORS doesn't have anything to do with local school systems, but it did, however, hit HLA with nearly 3000 pages of violations of the law.
My school system hasn't had a single report of any law broken and it serves about 30,000 kids. Public schools are very, very safe and run by educational professionals.
You can't really compare a shoddily run private detention center like HLA to a public school system, but HLA has about the same amount of rapes and violent assaults per capita as the Georgia penetentiary system.
QFT.
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"Buddy Dave Sampson told me about this site about a year ago, but just recently took a look. Nice work! "
HOT OR COLD?
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: NORTH POLE, I'm afraid. That's just a regular program parent. You're trolling for fish of the wrong size there, hound dog! Whootie may as well continue his 4th of July celebrations!
John's not enjoying anything anymore, Elvis. Now he'll have to answer questions when people google him and find out what this 'consummate professional' :roflmao: does all day. Trolling on Fornits should be part of his professional profile.