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I've never seen that lake area they're depicting.  Otherwise, it appears they've pretty much merged the two programs into one due to low enrollment.

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A lot of those photos are just old Cross Creek photos; I even recognise some of the kids from there and that was nearly three years ago.

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I believe I elaborated upon my experience in Discovery pretty intricately in a thread I developed some time ago.  I was days away from going into Focus and Parent-Child 1 before I was ultimately "pulled", but I did engage in the Pre-Focus "community meetings" where the staffers (kids farther up in the program) reviewed our homework and such to see if it was adequate (if not, you went to Junior Varsity (JV) meeting instead of the pre-meeting)

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Quote from: "Joel"
What are the name of these WWASP seminars?  

Are they similar to CEDU propheets/Workshops? (I went through the following below at CEDU Rocky Mountain Academy)

http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/for ... _propheets

    * 2.1 The Truth propheet
    * 2.2 The Childrens propheet
    * 2.3 The Brothers Keeper propheet
    * 2.4 The Dreams
    * 2.5 The I Want to Live propheet
    * 2.6 The Values propheet
    * 2.7 The Imagine propheet

# 3 List of Workshops ( http://liamscheff.com/surviving-cedu/?p=355 )

    * 3.1 I & ME workshop
    * 3.2 The summit workshop

Orientation
Discovery
Focus
Parent-Child I
Principles
Parent-Child 2
Keys to Success
Parent-Child 3
Parent-Child 4

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I remember that SCL was always called the super-easy school full of fakes over at CCM . . .  It was funny how people over there tended to pride themselves over the integrity and brutal honesty of the place when in reality, much to my surprise, the majority of the kids there were hypocritical and full of it.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Nothing Makes You Feel Loved like....
« on: September 06, 2010, 11:59:41 PM »
I kinda like this Whooter post.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: I went to a program, but was not abused
« on: September 04, 2010, 09:14:43 PM »
Quote from: "none-ya"
Dude we get it . The program saved your life.Lucky us. What else you got?

He's just trying to sway potential viewers into disregarding the content.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Fornits: A Primer for the Uninitiated
« on: August 29, 2010, 04:08:32 PM »
Quote from: "DannyB II"
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Joel wrote:
This is a learned behavior.  Danny, IMHO, learned this at ELAN or saw violence in his home.  He shows little remorse for his actions towards people on this forum.  Danny is in his 50's and exhibits no interest in learning effective anger management strategies.  If he wants to abuse people, that's his choice.  His family, friends and employees will pay the price.
 

Joel, you really want to go here. I have saved every PM you have ever sent me. Remember flooding my Pm box with the guy shitting myself. You sent me that PM, listen up now, "31" times. You have sent a 1/2 dozen links that could have mucked up my
computer for a while. You have sent me threatening PM's.
I have them all. I also have the PM's you send me then erase, all 17 of them.
Please do send me more, use different names.
Thanks,  sweet cheeks.

lol

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Fornits: A Primer for the Uninitiated
« on: August 28, 2010, 07:39:22 PM »
Quote from: "Maximilian"
Quote from: "anythinganyone"
Quote from: "Maximilian"
Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids"
If your kids are psycho, call a local shrink (and go to therapy with them),

IF the kid lets it slip to the shrink, that they might be thinking of harming themselves, they will earn a one way ticket to the locked psychiatric unit, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.

Not true.  If it seems very likely that someone will kill themselves, then the psychiatrist will be required to have them sent to a mental health facility.  A mental health professional is not required to send someone over just because they are merely considering or thinking about suicide or self-harm.

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Psychiatrists specialize in on thing, in my experience, and that is putting you on as many psych medications as they can. In my opinion, I don't think that is a very effective strategy for dealing with a troubled teen. I'm sure a lot of people think drugging your kid into a stupor is a fine solution, but it's not a long term solution, it doesn't change the reason they behaved in a negative way. It only covers up the problems, then the kid will have to deal with them when they are an adult, on their own. They will also have to deal with the messy process of coming off the very strong medications psychiatrist prescribe like it's candy, on their own.

There are crappy psychiatrists and wonderful ones, as with any profession sadly.  Medication is supposed to be an aid, not a solution, and hopefully, all sides would recognise that.  Besides that, no one is forcing pills down anyone's throat.  People are welcome to get second opinions etc.

I take medication, and a very low dose at that, and it has helped me tremendously.

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Have you been or seen what goes on in an adolescent psychiatric unit? All of the things people complain about here happening in programs that harm children, they happen also in hospitals. IN fact the most negative experiences I had in treatment were hospitals like these, I wouldn't go so far to call it abuse, but it was harsh and restrictive and controlling, way more so than the program ever was. Not to mention the added fact, that they will pump you so full of medications you don't know up from sideways.

Specific examples please.  

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Usually therapy for teens, they go by themselves and talk to a therapist. I think family group therapy can work, but if a teen is troubled usually the communication broke down prior to that within a family.

In other words, family group therapy only works when there isn't a problem.  Good philosophy.

OK, this is ironic, you have to admit. Because you are defending a form of treatment (psychiatry) which in my experience, was ineffective and, actually, I found most of the experience quite negative. The psychiatrists I saw seemed trigger happy when it came to hospitalization. I was put in several times because I said the wrong thing, and was just a bit too honest about my intentions to continue to use drugs. Since I had overdosed and almost died before, they considered my behavior a form of suicide. My treatment involved talking to a psychiatrist for five minutes, and him prescribing me more and more meds, until I entered a stupor in which I was no longer wanting to go out and kill myself through bad behavior, because I was like a walking vegetable.

My parents insurance eventually refused to allow me any more treatment after several hospital stays, and so the psychiatrist suggested I be transfered to long term. The only place my parents could afford out of pocket was wwasp. I think most families try therapy, family therapy, and psychiatrists before seeking out such a long term, expensive option, but maybe I'm wrong. My family did, over a course of a couple years and I only got worse. I really was intent on destroying myself, and had to be forcibly stopped against my will. I know that's not the case for everybody, as I've read here, but it's accurate in my case. At the program, they helped me get off the meds, because I didn't want to be a zombie. When I left the program I was no longer on meds, and it felt good to actually feel things once again.

I could give you lots of examples of the things that happened in psychiatric hospitals I considered negative, but to be honest I don't really want to get into that right now.  If I could go back and choose for myself, I would rather been sent to a
wilderness program or private program than a hospital, but that's me. Thanks for your post.

Now that I think about it, it is kind of humorously ironic.

I would go to a hospital, but that's just me as well.

I can't help but question your authenticity; I get the impression this is just a story that keeps getting new parts pumped in whenever they are of use.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Fornits: A Primer for the Uninitiated
« on: August 28, 2010, 04:48:58 PM »
Quote from: "Maximilian"
Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids"
If your kids are psycho, call a local shrink (and go to therapy with them),

IF the kid lets it slip to the shrink, that they might be thinking of harming themselves, they will earn a one way ticket to the locked psychiatric unit, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.

Not true.  If it seems very likely that someone will kill themselves, then the psychiatrist will be required to have them sent to a mental health facility.  A mental health professional is not required to send someone over just because they are merely considering or thinking about suicide or self-harm.

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Psychiatrists specialize in on thing, in my experience, and that is putting you on as many psych medications as they can. In my opinion, I don't think that is a very effective strategy for dealing with a troubled teen. I'm sure a lot of people think drugging your kid into a stupor is a fine solution, but it's not a long term solution, it doesn't change the reason they behaved in a negative way. It only covers up the problems, then the kid will have to deal with them when they are an adult, on their own. They will also have to deal with the messy process of coming off the very strong medications psychiatrist prescribe like it's candy, on their own.

There are crappy psychiatrists and wonderful ones, as with any profession sadly.  Medication is supposed to be an aid, not a solution, and hopefully, all sides would recognise that.  Besides that, no one is forcing pills down anyone's throat.  People are welcome to get second opinions etc.

I take medication, and a very low dose at that, and it has helped me tremendously.

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Have you been or seen what goes on in an adolescent psychiatric unit? All of the things people complain about here happening in programs that harm children, they happen also in hospitals. IN fact the most negative experiences I had in treatment were hospitals like these, I wouldn't go so far to call it abuse, but it was harsh and restrictive and controlling, way more so than the program ever was. Not to mention the added fact, that they will pump you so full of medications you don't know up from sideways.

Specific examples please.  

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Usually therapy for teens, they go by themselves and talk to a therapist. I think family group therapy can work, but if a teen is troubled usually the communication broke down prior to that within a family.

In other words, family group therapy only works when there isn't a problem.  Good philosophy.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: I'm still here
« on: August 25, 2010, 02:28:30 AM »
This is all pretty entertaining for me.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Post your positive program experiences
« on: August 24, 2010, 05:56:10 PM »
Wrong.  Not many are tooting that being given Snickers™ and cake was abusive; more of them seem to be stating it's irrelevant and doesn't disprove (is that a double negative?) that there were abusive happenings.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: .
« on: August 24, 2010, 05:49:55 PM »
With a name like "SUCK IT" I imagine it would be hard to resist.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: STOP HR911 Already
« on: August 23, 2010, 02:21:36 AM »
Why not a bill with new, concrete requirements, such as, say, not allowing it to be a privilege to contact parents, a limitation on the length of stays in isolation (I remember hearing Spring Creek only kept students for three days in isolation for the highest punishment because that was the most legally permissible), permission for students to speak with attorneys or child abuse hotlines unmonitored &c.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Post your positive program experiences
« on: August 23, 2010, 12:46:44 AM »
Quote from: "SUCK IT"
Quote from: "anythinganyone"
I really think you aren't a real person tbh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wxrB41PMhw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnmCu3U09w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw_g8BpdCQw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZDjnWtK1A

I thought you might like these.  ;)

I can't recall where they used the first song.   I think after coming back from lunch on the first day they'd use that song.

Desparado does invoke that swelling in my eyes and a feeling like I HAD to cry but didn't feel like it, probably on account of trying to make myself cry in order to pass through the seminar when those songs were on.

I never heard True Colors in a seminar, so that song wasn't ruined for me.

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