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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore => Topic started by: Antigen on June 12, 2005, 11:40:00 PM
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How is it that Joyce Harris purchased tickets for strangers w/o ID to fly out of Utah? When my daughter and my little brother in law wanted to come home, we were informed that, under the new homeland security act, it was no longer legal for third parties to purchase tickets, even with ID. We wound up putting each of them on a Grayhoud bus. So... how did Joyce or anybody pull this off?
Something stinks in Denmark. I'll leave it to you to ferret out the source. I'm done.
Religion is based . . . mainly on fear . . . fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand. . . . My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race.
--Bertrand Russell, British philosopher, educator, mathemetician, and social critic
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If you're under 18 you don't need ID at an airport. I've flown on third party tickets before in the past and know others as well. It's possible.
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I flew home without id, and someone else bought me the ticket, thats because I am under 18. The boys even said who bought their ticket, and i think if it were otherwise, Joyce might say something.
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Someone what to state exactly what the law is they think Joyce broke?????????? :???: :???:
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umm DUH..here is an example of THE LAW she broke..this is for Vermont, but every other state has the same basic law..and I could tell you a lot more because my mother works for a LAWFIRM. But common sense would tell you:
http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2002/acts/ACT041.HTM (http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2002/acts/ACT041.HTM)
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and to add to that..maybe i know more than you think about this particular law because BEFORE i went to the whitmore..i had runaway and was with a guy older than 18 who got caught with me, and was in a deep deep hole. Luckily, his dad was the states DA..but that didnt completely help him out.
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(d) It is a defense to a prosecution under this section that the defendant acted reasonably and in good faith to protect the child from imminent physical, mental or emotional harm.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
--George Bernard Shaw, Irish-born English playwright
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And, even failing that...
(1) with respect to sheltering a runaway child, shall, except as provided in subsection (h) of this section, be imprisoned not more than 30 days or fined not more than $500.00, or both;
The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest possible limits. ... and [when] the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.
-- St. George Tucker, Judge of the Virginia Supreme Court 1803
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yea..too bad that is VERMONTS..who knows what Utahs is..or what the parents are willing to sue or do (you should hear how pissed they are)..and it has been proven that she did buy the tickets..as she commented about how she was scared to death that she might be looking towards federal prison. *i will not mention the source that came from
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PROVEN???? Now fornits is a court of law!!!!
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Why were the boys run aways in the first place?
NOBODY seems to want to answer that question!
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maybe SOMEBODY did not read well enough..because it was answered a couple of times..let me rephrase it for you..i knew the boys..dated one of them, good friends with the other two..they didint want to be there anymore..how more simpler could someone put it for you..well well..i can see it now.."WELL WHY DIDNT THEY WANT TO BE THERE ANYMORE?!" (gosh..it never ends) because they didnt want to be there anymore!...you will alwyas have people who dont want to be somewhere..i didnt want to be there right around the time i left...i wanted to be at home with my family..that doesnt mean i dont care about the people any less. :wstupid:
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On 2005-06-13 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"you will alwyas have people who dont want to be somewhere..:wstupid: "
very profound........enlighten me more...em, boyfriend and two close friends.........makes complete sense now.
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So the boys ran because they didn't want to be there?
Well DUH!
:silly:
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Why were they so afraid to go back?
Who hid them in Nephi for two days?
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well lets be honest summer time concerts and partying cant imagine why they would want to run to that
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On 2005-06-13 20:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Why were they so afraid to go back?
Who hid them in Nephi for two days?"
They're not complete idiots. They'd know how to hide themselves. Doesn't take a rocket scientist. :nworthy:
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Mouse ... you sure are spending a lot of time on Fornits. Damage Control? Don't you have a life?
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This girl can't do any damage control!
Isn't that why the Suds have Lawyer Jack?
Why these boys ran away....and bet you it was not to attend any music concert!
If they were gone for two days before leaving Utah---how did they even know how to contact this Harris person, IF THAT IS WHAT THEY EVEN DID?
WHO ELSE was involved in this?
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I do have a life, and I'm visiting the Whitmore right now, and they happen to be on schedule. I'm doing some stuff on the computer in the last couple days, and I just thought I'd drop in on this forum as a sort of side thing to do.
That, and some stuff on here is just amusing. I like a good laugh. :lol:
But just to make it clear, no, I'm not "damage control". I'm just standing up for what I believe, and what I know is right. This is a personal issue for me, not a chore. I don't know what gave you that idea.
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On 2005-06-14 10:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"This girl can't do any damage control!
Isn't that why the Suds have Lawyer Jack?
Why these boys ran away....and bet you it was not to attend any music concert!
If they were gone for two days before leaving Utah---how did they even know how to contact this Harris person, IF THAT IS WHAT THEY EVEN DID?
WHO ELSE was involved in this?
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Why does "someone else" always have to be involved? These guys are old enough to change their own diapers, if you haven't noticed. They could've had a fragment of a brain cell to call information. They aren't two years old, and they aren't retarded.
And they did contact Harris. The PD has proof.
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You have no idea WHO contacted Mrs. Harris. Don't say things you do not know.
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wouldnt it be funny if someone DID know who she contacted and who contacted her? HAHA, well I do. So dont speak too soon.
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Who is in Chicago? I thought I read here somewhere that they went to Chicago.