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FROM THE DAHLONEGA NUGGET FEBRUARY 4, 2009
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Bank seeks to foreclose on Hidden Lake property
By Sharon Hall
Published: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 10:36 AM EST
Branch Banking and Trust Company (BB&T) put Hidden Lake Academy on notice last week that it is starting foreclosure on part of the local private school's property. Just over 190 acres of HLA's 196.31 acres are scheduled to be sold on the courthouse steps March 3.
Much of the school's financial troubles stem from a September 2006 lawsuit accusing the school's founder, Len Buccellato of multiple ethics oversights, including the employment of unqualified instructors, knowingly accepting dangerous students and misuse of school funds. The suit was blamed for a significant drop in enrollment in the ensuing months. Between the time the suit was filed and the following August the boarding school lost about 100 students, reported HLA headmaster Joe Sapp last year.
In August 2007 Federal Judge William C. O'Kelley denied a potential class action suit against the academy based on the fact the school agreed to settle out of court for a reported $400,000. This settlement was to be paid by December 31, 2008.
On Jan. 8, 2009, the attorney for those to be paid in the settlement filed a motion for the court to force HLA to pay up,
On Jan. 19, HLA's attorney filed a response to the Motion to Enforce Settlement and Judgment, citing a “drastic decrease in the student body of Hidden Lake Academy subsequent to, and in my opinion, caused by the filing” of the complaint against the school, “and a continuing barrage of negative emails to educational consultants who in the past referred prospective students” to the school, an affidavit attached to the motion states.
The affidavit also states that Buccellato and the school have attempted to obtain a new loan to pay off both its lien holder (BB&T) and the $400,000 owed to plaintiffs from the original judgment.
HLA is also in arrears on both its 2007 and 2008 property taxes due Lumpkin County. A total of nearly $87,500 in current and back taxes and interest are due.
Attempts to reach Buccellato for comment were unsuccessful.
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Is Buccellato's house of cards finally falling down?
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Buccellato's Answer to Motion
http://www.fornits.com/hla/buccellatto_ ... sponse.pdf (http://www.fornits.com/hla/buccellatto_motion_response.pdf)
BB&T' s Answer to Buccellato's Gamesmanship
Branch Banking and Trust Company (BB&T) put Hidden Lake Academy on notice last week that it is starting foreclosure on part of the local private school's property. Just over 190 acres of HLA's 196.31 acres are scheduled to be sold on the courthouse steps March 3.
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If the bank sells off this property, will these people in the lawsuit finally get paid?
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Berger and Montague could have just called up the Nugget reporter to ascertain HLA's financial standing....they really did their homework on this one, or was this held back from the plaintiffs....? This is good. Love it.
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If the bank sells off this property, will these people in the lawsuit finally get paid?
It is pitance, about 306,000. dollars divided by 247 plaintiffs before Berger and Montague had to file new motions. It really doesn't matter. It was the exposure of the corruption that was important and the safety of the children. The perfect ending would be for the IRS to come in and cart the garbage
away.
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...did Len Buccellato just enter a letter from a Fornits member, loaded with ed-con email addresses, into a court record as evidence?
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Erm... oops?
Or is this his way of taking them all down with him?
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...just love it.... what a script!
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If one notices Buccellato's affidavit to the court, Buccellato states that he is the "owner and headmaster"...oops. Does Joe Stapp agree with this, not that we care, he sold his soul a long time ago...but I think the court should seek clarification or Berger and Montague. Will the 'actual' headmaster of HLA, please stand up?
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Also, Buccellato is shrewd and so are his henchmen....he is manipulative and calculating. It would be naive to think he has nothing up his sleeve..He may look like a fool with short legs, but let us hold the champagne. It is a 50-60 million dollar industry and Buccellato sniffs the money to be made. If he walks away, he will open another cesspool. It is his nature.
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...did Len Buccellato just enter a letter from a Fornits member into evidence
From an "unidentifiable source", if I remember correctly. :roflmao:
It's important the Bucci pays up, though. The lawyers need to get paid to further encourage other attorneys to take similar cases. Bleed Bucci dry and put him in the poor house if at all possible. Throw him in jail if he can't pay.
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If the bank sells off this property, will these people in the lawsuit finally get paid?
no. the bank takes the property and sells it off to the highest bidder and keeps the money. than the previous owner usually files for bankruptcy.
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NOTICE OF POWER OF SALE
Published: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 12:13 PM EST
CONTAINED IN GEORGIA SECURITY DEED AND SECURITY AGREEMENT
STATE OF GEORGIA COUNTY OF LUMPKIN
Under and by virtue of the power of sale contained in that certain Georgia Security Deed and Security Agreement from HIDDEN LAKE ACADEMY, INC., a Georgia corporation (hereinafter referred to as “Grantor”) to BRANCH BANKING AND TRUST COMPANY, a North Carolina banking corporation (hereinafter referred to as “Grantee”), dated September 19, 2006 and recorded in Deed Book 1005, Page 652, et. seq., Lumpkin County, Georgia Records (the “Security Deed”), the undersigned, as Attorney-in-Fact for Grantor, will sell at public outcry to the highest and best bidder for cash, between the legal hours of sale before the Courthouse door of Lumpkin County, Georgia, on the first Tuesday in March, 2009 (March 3, 2009) the following described property, to wit:
PARCEL A: ALL THAT TRACT OR PARCEL OF LAND lying and being in Land Lots 1002 and 1001, 11th District, 1st Section, Lumpkin County, Georgia, being 16.636 acres and shown as Parcel “A” on a survey for Hidden Lake Academy, dated August 11, 2006, prepared by Michael Stewart Kelley, Georgia Registered Land Surveyor, and being more particularly described as follows: TO FIND THE TRUE POINT OF BEGINNING, begin at an iron pin found at the corner common to Land Lots 1002, 1001, 1015 and 1016; thence along the southern boundary line of Land Lot 1002 North 86?04'02” West 349.39 feet to a point on the eastern right-of-way of Hidden Lake Road (40' right-of-way); thence North 86?04'02” West 41.22 feet to a point on the western right-of-way of Hidden Lake Road and the TRUE POINT OF BEGINNING; thence continuing along the southern boundary line of Land Lot 1002 North 86?04'03” West 536.81 feet to an iron pin found; thence leaving said Land Lot line North 13?01'46” East 47.26 feet to a point; thence North 13?53'51” East 71.19 feet to a point; thence North 30?57'19” East 45.05 feet to a point; thence North 38?55'11” East 42.55 feet to a point; thence North 30?10'19” East 21.40 feet to a point; thence North 28?56'46” East 47.32 feet to a point; thence North 15?52'20” East 39.14 feet to a point; thence North 01?13'35” West 67.19 feet to a point; thence North 03?22'07” West 72.67 feet to a point; thence North 05?41'49” West 32.65 feet to a point; thence North 05?58'55” East 48.33 feet to a point; thence North 16?02'45” East 87.18 feet to a point; thence North 21?29'13” East 53.58 feet to a point; thence North 28?03'21” East 14.25 feet to a point; thence North 31?19'24” East 92.80 feet to a point; thence North 31?40'00” East 71.80 feet to a point; thence North 21?32'15” East 35.01 feet to a point; thence North 11?08'06” East 77.90 feet to a point; thence North 15?21'54” East 67.70 feet to a point; thence North 16?04'32” East 110.87 feet to a point; thence North 23?10'49” East 54.61 feet to a point; thence North 21?40'14” East 66.51 feet to a point; thence North 26?25'52” East 88.41 feet to a point; thence North 12?08'23” East 98.58 feet to a point on the southern boundary line of Land Lot 943; running thence along said Land Lot line South 86?26'43” East 673.25 feet to a point on the western right-of-way of Hidden Lake Road; thence along said right-of-way the following chord bearings and distances: South 59?44'46” West 70.53 feet; South 49?35'15” West 108.28 feet; South 45?14'19” West 77.80 feet; South 35?44'10” West 77.29 feet; South 24?18'30” West 59.92 feet; South 19?29'20” West 113.58 feet; South 22?18'53” West 53.29 feet; South 29?14'49” West 76.46 feet; South 13?41'21” West 853.06 feet; thence South 17?53'48” West 22.17 feet to the TRUE POINT OF BEGINNING. PARCEL B: ALL THAT TRACT OR PARCEL OF LAND lying and being in Land Lots 1002, 1001, 944, 945, 946, and 1016, 11th District, 1st Section, Lumpkin County, Georgia, being 173.689 acres and shown as Parcel “B” on a survey for Hidden Lake Academy, dated August 11, 2006, prepared by Michael Stewart Kelley, Georgia Registered Land Surveyor, and being more particularly described as follows: BEGINNING at the corner common to Land Lots 1001, 1002, 1015 and 1016; running thence along the southern boundary line of Land Lot 1002 North 86?04'02” West 349.39 feet to a point on the eastern right-of-way of Hidden Lake Road (40' right-of-way); thence along said right-of-way the following chord bearings and distances: North 17?53'46” East 13.69 feet; North 13?41'21” East 857.05 feet; North 29?14'53” East 73.42 feet; North 22?19'00” East 56.66 feet; North 19?29'18” East 112.92 feet; North 24?18'28” East 54.24 feet; North 35?44'03” East 69.94 feet; North 45?14'24” East 72.99 feet; North 49?35'17” East 103.19 feet; North 59?44'39” East 74.92 feet; North 58?16'40” East 100.40 feet; North 50?00'46” East 86.69 feet; North 43?14'11” East 63.46 feet; North 31?50'58” East 74.27 feet; North 32?52'01” East 38.01 feet; North 50?07'43” East 20.31 feet; North 68?03'05” East 5.97 feet; North 72?31'35” East 250.12 feet to a point; thence leaving the eastern right-of-way of Hidden Lake Road North 17?28'28” West 40.00 feet to a point on the western right-of-way of Hidden Lake Road; thence along the western right-of-way of Hidden Lake Road South 72?31'37” West 137.05 feet to a point; thence leaving the western right-of-way of Hidden Lake Road North 21?17'14” East 251.54 feet to a point; thence North 34?34'32” East 198.44 feet to a point; thence South 55?18'02” East 159.88 feet to a point; thence North 58?04'14” East 75.33 feet to a point; thence North 46?48'10” East 59.14 feet to a point; thence North 73?47'55” East 56.12 feet to a point; thence North 62?35'21” East 51.50 feet to a point; thence North 43?56'38” East 62.23 feet to a point; thence North 03?40'13” West 41.27 feet to a point; thence North 11?10'19” West 34.82 feet to a point; thence North 28?36'05” East 80.69 feet to a point; thence North 24?57'02” East 130.51 feet to a point; thence North 09?22'46” East 165.57 feet to a point; thence North 21?31'54” East 121.26 feet to a square pipe; thence South 84?07'17” East 335.01 feet to a point; thence South 84?13'14” East 2476.74 feet to an iron pin found; thence South 03?09'46” West 1293.38 feet to an iron pin found; thence North 87?22'01” West 1339.51 feet to an iron pin found; thence North 86?45'40” West 1299.58 feet to an iron pin found; thence South 03?42'34” West 1318.92 feet to a point; thence North 87?44'20” West 76.73 feet to a point; thence South 38?59'24” West 191.55 feet to a point; thence South 47?39'23” West 332.13 feet to a point; thence South 51?21'25” West 202.58 feet to a point; thence South 25?33'54” West 246.97 feet to a point; thence South 02?31'16” West 558.20 feet to an iron pin found; thence North 86?45'41” West 667.18 feet to an iron pin found; thence North 02?14'28” East 540.70 feet to an iron pin found; thence North 03?38'00” East 756.36 feet to an iron pin found and the POINT OF BEGINNING. The above-described PARCEL A and PARCEL B are hereinafter referred to as the “Property”.
The Security Deed was given to secure Grantor's guarantee of a Promissory Note dated September 19, 2006, in the original principal amount of SEVEN MILLION TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND AND NO/HUNDREDTHS DOLLARS ($7,200,000.00) (the “Promissory Note”), pursuant to a Guaranty Agreement dated September 19, 2006 (the “Guaranty”), with interest thereon as provided in the Promissory Note and the Guaranty until paid.
On account of defaults in the terms of the Promissory Note, the Guaranty, the Security Deed and other loan documents, including Grantor's failure to pay the indebtedness in full at its accelerated maturity, Grantee, the present holder of the Security Deed, the Promissory Note and the Guaranty, has declared the entire unpaid principal balance of all obligations secured by the Security Deed, including interest to date of sale, to be due and payable immediately. The debt remaining in default and unpaid, this sale will be for the purpose of satisfying the principal and interest due, amounts, if any, expended by Grantee to protect its interest in the Property, and all expenses of this sale, including, without limitation, attorneys' fees.
The Property will be sold subject to outstanding ad valorem taxes and/or assessments, and superior easements, restrictions and rights-of-way and other superior matters of record, if any. The undersigned will execute a deed to the purchaser at the sale as provided in the Security Deed. To the best knowledge and belief of Grantee, the equitable title to the Property is vested in Grantor, and the party in possession of the Property is HLA, Inc., pursuant to a Commercial Lease Agreement referenced in Memorandum of Lease recorded in Deed Book X21, Page 118, Lumpkin County, Georgia Records.
Branch Banking and Trust Company, as Attorney-in-Fact for Hidden Lake Academy, Inc.
R. Russell Berry, Esq. Womble, Carlyle, Sandridge & Rice, PLLC Attorneys at Law One Atlantic Center, Suite 3500 1201 West Peachtree Street Atlanta, Georgia 30309 (404) 888-7468
(2/4, 2/11, 2/18, 2/25) 1484
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Now who in their right mind would entertain the thought of buying the place with Buccellato and Spooner living in their home on the premises...Have the reported "call boys" at 1,000. a pop in 2005 stopped? Actually, it would have been less expensive to stay with the male prostitutes as the young male counselors
probably cost much of "The Chapel FUnd".
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I would like to know how Berger and Montague is going to position THIS, to the plaintiffs..."Sleepless in Philly"? or just comatose.
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It would be my guess that the "HLA SALE" has been carefully orchestrated by Buccellato and Thornton Morris, his financial guru. Again, this is a guess.
Question? Who is vulnerable in the class settlement and who isn't? If the assets were moved, who could bail him out??? Did his brothers also move St. Francis's
"liquid capital" ? Are they vulnerable? What about Kenneth Spooner Buccellato???
I would not party just yet. If one of the above entities bailed out Buccellato, there could be a possible lease-back at a lower market value. THere are many ways to get around this and Buccellato is good, very good at this.
Just look at "The Chapel Fund" aka Hidden Lake Foundation, Inc. dissolved Buccellato maintains to pay the Foundations legal fees) which everyone knows is
a blatant, perjured lie.
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I'm skeptical. Bucci probably has something up his sleeve.
What if, Bucci has an associate show up who purchases the land with funds already secured. Then “rents” the property back to Bucci well below market value. Could be where all the assets have been disappearing to.
I am highly skeptical of anything Bucci touches or is involved in. I wouldn’t put it past him to pull some stunt like that.
Jezus F'in Christ. Could you make the Confirmation Codes any more encrypted?
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Okay all you speculators...
Will HLA sell for an amount Less Than or Equal to the Chapel Fund?
Who will be there to bid?
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Who is going to bid? That is probably pre-arranged, too. And one scenario: HLA property sells to another pre-determined entity...Buccellato files personal bankruptcy and HLA (all co-defendant entities named in the lawsuit) file bankruptcy, and good-bye to the settlement. Berger and Montague were basically gone long ago... no negligence filed,thus, no insurance coverage...they bailed.
Ask oneself why Buccellato would start up Mountain Brook and Creekside, only to fold? Last ditch effort....absolutely not. He was aware this was coming down the pike. He still recently attended an industry meeting, and he was actually there up on the big screen. Tot of a man, an illuminated joke. Why would he bother if he was folding?? Think about it...if one knows his psyche, the answer is clear. Let us see if everything has been separated out and if Kenneth Spooner files bankruptcy....
And what are they going to tell the parents of current students as they covered up the lawsuit allegations, will they do the same now? Because scenario two-
there will be no sale and in his own mind, either way, Buccellato feels he will come back bigger and better...hopefully, leashed.
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Where are Buccellato's "goons" that he owns? No comments? At least he doesn't 'own' "The Dahlonega Nugget".
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what if I buy the property, and turn it into a wildlife conservation center or turn it into a residential subdivision or maybe mountain retreat? or maybe i'll buy part of the land and turn that area into a hedonist's retreat - strip club, bar, spa w/asian massage...etc. i wonder how HLA would be able to function with that sort of thing being operated on lower left field...or where the SAC used to be.
bucci is going to be surprised when he sees me at the auction..... especially surprised that one of the lowly potheads his institution tried to brainwash now has the power and capital to squash his entire enterprise with a single bid, without even scratching the surface of his [potheads] budget. For me, buying that land is like exxon buying a new drill bit, or cisco buying a new server.
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I think what you people are doing is terrible. I have a child there now and am very pleased with the progress she has made. The counselors are great and whether licensed or not, that is not my concern. They are effective and truly care about their work. The financial workings of the school are their own and not my concern. i just hope they can weather this storm because I think they do a tremendous service despite what a lot of you are saying. I would like you to get a life and leave these people alone. Quit living in the past and just once make an attempt to rid yourselves of your bitterness and hatered.
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I think what you people are doing is terrible. I have a child there now and am very pleased with the progress she has made. The counselors are great and whether licensed or not, that is not my concern. They are effective and truly care about their work. The financial workings of the school are their own and not my concern. i just hope they can weather this storm because I think they do a tremendous service despite what a lot of you are saying. I would like you to get a life and leave these people alone. Quit living in the past and just once make an attempt to rid yourselves of your bitterness and hatered.
Well, that didn't take long. Sir or Madame sycophant, if you are not one of Buccellato's "goons", sadly for your child you are uninformed and naive. Buccellato cares nothing for your child or anyone elses, and he certainly does not care about the counselors. You are a number and only a number and your child is less than that in Buccellato's eyes.
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I think what you people are doing is terrible. I have a child there now and am very pleased with the progress she has made. The counselors are great and whether licensed or not, that is not my concern. They are effective and truly care about their work. The financial workings of the school are their own and not my concern. i just hope they can weather this storm because I think they do a tremendous service despite what a lot of you are saying. I would like you to get a life and leave these people alone. Quit living in the past and just once make an attempt to rid yourselves of your bitterness and hatered.
Well, that didn't take long. Sir or Madame sycophant, if you are not one of Buccellato's "goons", sadly for your child you are uninformed and naive. Buccellato cares nothing for your child or anyone elses, and he certainly does not care about the counselors. You are a number and only a number and your child is less than that in Buccellato's eyes.
I believe her number is "88"
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you say you dont care about HLA's finances?
maybe you should consider that you are getting about a dollars worth of service for every twenty dollars you give them?
do you realize your kid will be back to their old ways the day he/she gets out? you're just going to have an illusion that the kid's doing OK, because theres a hidden curriculum at HLA: how to not get caught. if you consider a criminal education, like one you can get in prison, valuable, then i guess you are getting a decent return for your money.
do you realize that you can buy your kid into NYU or any Ivy League school regardless of your kids behavior for the amount of money you have spent on HLA - including the hidden fees like ed-consultants*** activity fees, grossly overpriced toiletries, plane tickets...etc? a year of parties at one of those schools and they'll be so sick of "misbehaving" that they'll turn into an Obama-type?
***If you didnt need an ed-consultant, your going to need one to get your kid out of HLA. Hidden lake holds on to their students for dear life. it's easier to keep kids there than find new ones to admit, and kids that have gone through the program are more cost-effective to look after - putting a big price tag on retention. when your kids about to graduate, they will try to keep them postgrad. they will use any kind of leverage they have to keep them there. Most respectable private schools around the country have stopped taking HLA kids, thanks to uniformly unchanged bad apples that come out of there. further, the counselors will write negative letters to your prospective schools about your kid to decrease your kid's chances of getting in. WHY? because they get paid commission for every kid in their peer group that they keep postgrad. The ed-consultants also get paid commission and/or favors (look up leslie goldberg in the court docs) for kids they retain at HLA after grad, so have fun finding an ed consultant that wont take your money and stick you with HLA for another year or two anyway.
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I would like you to get a life and leave these people alone. Quit living in the past and just once make an attempt to rid yourselves of your bitterness and hatered.
I will leave them alone when they leave all those kids and poor exploited families alone. I will rid myself of bitterness when the land upon which Hidden Lake Academy is purged of the tears of the tortured souls imprisoned there. I Will rid myself of Hatred when there is no more HLA left to hate. I will go my way when you allow your child to go their way.
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Looks like I struck a nerve
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The ed-consultants also get paid commission and/or favors (look up leslie goldberg in the court docs) for kids they retain at HLA after grad, so have fun finding an ed consultant that wont take your money and stick you with HLA for another year or two anyway.
Sorry for seeming to sidetrack this thread, but...could you please tell me more particulars about Leslie Goldberg and her involvement with HLA?
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The specifics are found in the complaint: http://www.bergermontague.com/pdfs/Hidd ... plaint.pdf (http://www.bergermontague.com/pdfs/Hidden%20Lake%20Academy%20Complaint.pdf)
i havnt read it over recently, but you should.
to sum it up off the top of my head, Leslie Goldberg was taking favors from buccelatto, including airfare for trips.
Her relationship with bucci went like this: She had "professional" respect for him, and he likewise to her. She was well-connected in the TBS/emotionalgrowthschool/boardingschool circles, and was well-respected. schools and colleges all over the country knew her name. a simple CC to leslie on a student's email to the admissions department of many schools could greatly improve a students chance of getting in. Getting on leslie's good side - being on her list of leslie-approved schools could also result in that school gaining significant enrollment increases from big-ticket families. How she gained that sort of reputation i dont have a clue about. bucci wanted to be at the top of her list, so he did semi-unethical things to get there. (i say semi-unethical because i have to admit this sort of thing is common practice in both american and international business and politics). There were benefits to leslie though if you had her as an ed-con. your kid at hla became a high-ticket item, care was taken not to mistreat them to the extent that you may be driven to pull them. if your kid complained to leslie about something bucci would never hear the end of it. also, if you really insisted she would do her best to try to get your kid into a good school and not keep you at HLA.
as for the comment before about commission - ed consultants dont get paid for keeping kids post-grad, but the peer group counselors do (or did).
This was HLA's ed consultant/postgrad scam:
-Your kids in fire/wind element and you are looking at boarding schools for your kid's junior/senior year at high school.
-You have been highly cooperative and have signed along with the program with great enthusiasm. this makes you a target for this scam
-they try to convince you that your kid needs to finish up high school at HLA - there exists a booklet which details specifics to counselors as to what they should say to parents in this situation. dont have time now, but i'll write some of the things up later.
-you insist otherwise, and they say they will not offer any help in getting your kid into the next school - that means no recommendation which is sometimes necessary when coming out of a TBS
-they have you talk to an ed-consultant, they give numbers to you
-ed-con tries to agree with school
-you insist otherwise
-pressure begins - the school threatens to withold your kid's transcript because your kid's failing a class (teacher instructed to fail them). they say kid must repeat class, which at HLA entails another year becouse said class is not offered in the summer and although they'll get the credit in the winter, schools rarely accept transfers mid year, especially for seniors. This can be especially bad if your kid is already a senior.
-ed-con charges large sum for service of getting your kid into next school
-kid magically starts passing the class again.
-despite attempt to get into "traditional" schools, ed-con arrogantly steers you towards emotional growth schools and other TBS's, as a "step down". there's not much of a "step down" involved with these schools, it's always more of the same presented on a different color plate. This is because these types of schools are more open to doing business with ed-cons than traditional schools - "normal kids dont need ed-cons".
-After alot of arguing your kid finally gets into a boarding school.
HLA benefits because they gave the ED-con business, and now the ed-con is more likely to refer kids to HLA, ED-con benefits because now he/she has your money, and your kid barely gets into another school.
i'm not sure if all this still goes on at HLA. i'd put my money on not happening. BUT, you must understand: If someone is willing to compromise their morals once, they are willing to do it again. don't play into HLA's claims of "reform", they havnt reformed. they just changed the way they operate on the surface.
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IS IT NOT POSSIBLE FOR BERGER AND MONTAGUE TO SLAP A LIEN AGAINST THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE JUDGEMENT AND DEFAULT OF BUCCELLATO?
HAVE BERGER AND MONTAGUE DONE SO? WHAT IS THE LAW ?
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Even though they bailed for a ridiculous judgement, they still have a fiduciary responsiblity to protect their clients interests which means
if they can file a lien, they did, will or should.
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Even though they bailed for a ridiculous judgement, they still have a fiduciary responsiblity to protect their clients interests which means
if they can file a lien, they did, will or should.
STAY TUNED...
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Yet another document I recieved in the mail.
Not very interesting... Just a certificate of service.
I hear that more is coming "down the pike", though.
[attachment=0:3luwlech]bucci3.pdf[/attachment:3luwlech]
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None of us know what is going on at the school, we read it in the paper like everyone else.
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I see you poor wretches continue to thrive on negativity. Exactly when do you all think you will be able to take responsibilty for your lives. Is it that difficult for you to quit blaming your parents, your schools, and anyone else available for the poor choices you have made in your life. This site really has become a haven for sociopaths with no ability to accept responsiblity for their own failures in life. At least you have each other, a bunch of miserable, angry and depressed cry babies.
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I see you poor wretches continue to thrive on negativity. Exactly when do you all think you will be able to take responsibilty for your lives. Is it that difficult for you to quit blaming your parents, your schools, and anyone else available for the poor choices you have made in your life. This site really has become a haven for sociopaths with no ability to accept responsiblity for their own failures in life. At least you have each other, a bunch of miserable, angry and depressed cry babies.
Well. Welcome to fornits to you too!
:hug:
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Buccellato's pet "goon" is back...when did he let you out?
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I see you poor wretches continue to thrive on negativity. Exactly when do you all think you will be able to take responsibilty for your lives. Is it that difficult for you to quit blaming your parents, your schools, and anyone else available for the poor choices you have made in your life. This site really has become a haven for sociopaths with no ability to accept responsiblity for their own failures in life. At least you have each other, a bunch of miserable, angry and depressed cry babies.
hay buddy, hold up a min. you said and i quote "no ability to accept responsiblity for their own failures in life. i havent failed. a lot of us have not failed. so your argument is false. please stop lying. it makes you look like an ass.
At least you have each other, a bunch of miserable, angry and depressed cry babies.
i speak for my self here but i am none of what you mentioned. or are you saying you i am statement?
shit bud ive done more in my life than you could ever hope. let me know when you get certificates form recognized collages, accredited organizations, health providers. . or hell let me know when you finish high school. till than leave this to us grown up, collage educated people.
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shit bud ive done more in my life than you could ever hope. let me know when you get certificates form recognized collages, accredited organizations, health providers. . or hell let me know when you finish high school. till than leave this to us grown up, collage educated people.
Let me know when you learn who to spell college you uneducated dolt.
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shit bud ive done more in my life than you could ever hope. let me know when you get certificates form recognized collages, accredited organizations, health providers. . or hell let me know when you finish high school. till than leave this to us grown up, collage educated people.
Let me know when you learn who to spell college you uneducated dolt.
It is "how"
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So, let me get this straight, Buccellato hasn't told his staff yet, and hasn't told the parents. Not one comment. No Charles Cares lying and doing Buccellato's dirty work, no letters, yet, from his lackeys.... did he find God or something? Has he relinquished the idea that he is above God, is a God? A little God. Doubtful. He would not give up the ship, unless he was finally placed in shackles. There is more on the horizon...
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shit bud ive done more in my life than you could ever hope. let me know when you get certificates form recognized collages, accredited organizations, health providers. . or hell let me know when you finish high school. till than leave this to us grown up, collage educated people.
Let me know when you learn who to spell college you uneducated dolt.
i might not know how to spell but at least i am more qualified to deal with children than you are. please tell me what qualifications you have to work with children. than i might think you should be rather than a possible chomo.
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I see you poor wretches continue to thrive on negativity. Exactly when do you all think you will be able to take responsibilty for your lives. Is it that difficult for you to quit blaming your parents, your schools, and anyone else available for the poor choices you have made in your life. This site really has become a haven for sociopaths with no ability to accept responsiblity for their own failures in life. At least you have each other, a bunch of miserable, angry and depressed cry babies.
Ah, Johnny Ringo is back. Surprised you were able to take time to get your head out of Len's lap to take the time to post.
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More here
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And a certificate of service
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what if I buy the property, and turn it into a wildlife conservation center or turn it into a residential subdivision or maybe mountain retreat? or maybe i'll buy part of the land and turn that area into a hedonist's retreat - strip club, bar, spa w/asian massage...etc. i wonder how HLA would be able to function with that sort of thing being operated on lower left field...or where the SAC used to be.
bucci is going to be surprised when he sees me at the auction..... especially surprised that one of the lowly potheads his institution tried to brainwash now has the power and capital to squash his entire enterprise with a single bid, without even scratching the surface of his [potheads] budget. For me, buying that land is like exxon buying a new drill bit, or cisco buying a new server.
Wow.
That is the most romantic thing I ever read. :rose:
I hope you're serious.
In fact, if you buy HLA, I will MARRY you.
I will drive down there, marry you, and be the Creative Director of that Hedonism Retreat.
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I looked into it.
apparently zoning laws in the area prohibit a hedonistic sort of thing. i can do residences or a wilderness spa/retreat. wildlife conservation wont work too well either because theres not much to conserve and the land has been so developed (aka razed) keeping the place from dilapidating into a mudpit (especially lower left) will take alot of money and labor. residences and retreats wont work too well either because that would involve a hefty investment into new development for something which is questionably profitable and very financially risky: theres not much of a market for those sorts of retreats in north georgia. it's georgia, not new york or california. most atlantans live in the suburbs anyway and have no desire for a retreat more than once in a very blue moon. the retreats that do exist now are struggling to stay afloat - especially in this economy.
what i will probably do is work with the bank and bucci and buy some equity in the school, be a board member or something, and keep the school running but with MY RULES. i'm unsure of the current business structure at HLA so i dont know how it's going to work out but my guys are on top of it right now. a suggestion that was thrown out is to 'be the bank' in this situation: buy the school and lease it back to bucci under certain conditions. those conditions would be: no strip searches, everyone goes on all breaks, optional summer, end parent manipulation, full disclosure of school-going-ons, full cooperation with authorities when incidents occur, unlimited unsupervised access to phones 24/7 to call anyone parents (not counselors) approve, expansion of the arts and music programs, the end of forced PT and labor, regular access to internet and email, the end of counselor review of parent-student communications, and end the focus on AA and total abstinence and begin to emphasize harm reduction (learning responsible vs. irresponsible use of drugs/alchohol instead of saying "do it and you will be deadinsaneorinjail". End the ban on relationships (ban on sex can stand, for obvious reasons - its georgia). In essence, HLA must end their attempts at suppressing negative personality traits in their students, and instead focus on turning those negatives into either neutrals or positives.
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lol.. a "kinder, gentler program"? Not gonna work. Not with Bucci still in place. And a program is still a program. No matter what you call it. The mind fuck will still go on and kids will continue to be hurt.
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In a perfect world, yes. no more programs.
but we dont live in a perfect world. kids will continue to misbehave, and parents will continue to send them away. there will be a demand for programs regardless of if they existed or not. back in the day the kids would be sent of to a millitary school, or sent to live with a relative in "the old country", or sent to a same-sex religious school. none of those options i think are preferable to a "kinder, gentler program" as you put it. An "ethical" program should be absolutely indistinguishable from a traditional private boarding school except for the fact that A. messed up kids go there and B. the kids get extra attention with not only their schoolwork, but in their emotional lives too.
do you have any realistic solutions? if so, please, tell me. otherwise, quit bloviating your ideals and snap back to reality. you will never be able to get rid of programs because there is a demand for them, just as you will never get rid of drugs because the demand is there. the best we can do is try to negate any harm these programs do and make them into positive places that actually help kids.
you do realize that although most kids dont deserve to be sent away, there are the bad apples that do? there will always be kids that need help, just as there will always be dysfunctional programs. society needs programs. it just doesnt need programs as they have manifested in the last 100 years.
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you do realize that although most kids dont deserve to be sent away, there are the bad apples that do? there will always be kids that need help, just as there will always be dysfunctional PROGRAMS. society needs programs.
sorry, meant to say PARENTS
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Do the parents know? who knows... but the courts sure do (see attached)
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*see above PDF
I have just read HLA attorney Robert Barnaby's answer to "Writ of Execution" that was filed by the plaintiffs and it is laughable, to say the least. "Saturday Night Live" in Gainesville. How high is the "bar" in Georgia? Ridiculous.
It is no news to anyone familiar with Hidden Lake Academy for Buccellato to be owing taxes. If one looks at his tax payment records over the years,
owing two years back taxes is pretty much no surprise. It was apparent before the lawsuit was filed and obviously it is business as usual with regard to paying taxes on time after the lawswuit.
According to what Barnaby wrote, they are banking, no pun intended, on nary a soul coming up with the 7.2 on the courthouse steps - but that is according to Barnaby. A long time ago, according to Quirk and Quirk(representing HLA) , "HLA purchased a mobile lab", "HLA was not a "Therapeutic Boarding School, the term was used for marketing purposes only", "HLA did not accept violent children" and the list could go on.. Bar licenses? Please. Marionettes, masquerading as attorneys. You all took an oath before the court, does that not supercede your oath to Buccellato?
And, the entire HLA package will sell you a donkey if you contracted for a pony.
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Word on the street is that the "little general" has come out of hiding...
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Sale Day March 3rd if one believes it....From what I hear, according to Buccellatto, everything is fine and ' business' continues as usual. Let's see if BB&T
backs off.
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According to Buccellato, BB&T has granted some grace...continuing the saga...
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I'm very, very curious how someone in the banking sector chose not to continue with the foreclosure, especially in this climate. I wonder what went on under the table? I wonder how pleased BB&T's management would be when they realize no money will be forthcoming, ever? I wonder what would happen if someone were to, well... tell them?
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Here you go:
[attachment=0:2eiu7fs3]plaintiffs-reply-memorandum-direct-payments-foreclosure-proceedings.pdf[/attachment:2eiu7fs3]
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If one notices Buccellato's affidavit to the court, Buccellato states that he is the "owner and headmaster"...oops. Does Joe Stapp agree with this, not that we care, he sold his soul a long time ago...but I think the court should seek clarification or Berger and Montague. Will the 'actual' headmaster of HLA, please stand up?
As a former student of HLA, I have seen Dr. Buccellato under 10 times during my stay of over 22 months. On all public matters he claims to be deeply concerned and interested in the well-being of students. In reality he spends most of his time holed up in his home located on campus, but far away from where students are allowed to go.
Joe Stapp... Quite possibly the worst public speaker on the planet, he has given the same speech about, "If the entire population of the earth was reduced to 100 people..." at three graduations in a row. He has almost know knowledge of how to communicate effectively with students. He is a terrible choice of headmaster.
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yeah the stapp name has a reputation for being shitty leaders and public personas
i'm refering to scott stapp of creed. :lala: :-)
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I totally agree that Joe Stapp is a joke. He has the "Little Man Syndrome", or Napolean Complex. He also has very poor social skills, so the thought of him having a degree in counseling makes me sick. He is a very sarcastic and arrogant little man. I was not at all impressed!