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New Info / 3rd Annual Conference on Treatment Abuse - July 25, 26 and 2
« on: January 04, 2003, 01:09:00 PM »
It's that time again.  The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse.   The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.  The dates are July 25, 26 and 27 of July.  This is the last weekend in July.  The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed.   The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net.  SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.

Sincerely,

Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net
Straight Survivor '76 - '80

I am not a vegetarian because I love animals;  I am a vegetarian because I hate plants.  
-- A. Whitney Brown


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 3rd Annual Conference on Treatment Abuse - July 25, 26 ,27
« on: January 04, 2003, 01:07:00 PM »
It's that time again.  The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse.   The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.  The dates are  25, 26 and 27 of July.  This is the last weekend in July.  The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed.   The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net.  SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.



Sincerely,



Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net

Straight Survivor '76 - '80

It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion.

--Joseph Goebbels



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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / 3rd Annual Conference on Treatment Abuse - July 25, 26 and 2
« on: January 04, 2003, 01:06:00 PM »
It's that time again.  The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse.   The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.  The dates are  25, 26 and 27 of July.  This is the last weekend in July.  The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed.   The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net.  SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.



Sincerely,



Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net

Straight Survivor '76 - '80

The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.
-- Patrick Henry



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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 3rd Annual Conference on Treatment Abuse
« on: January 04, 2003, 01:05:00 PM »
It's that time again.  The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse.   The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.  The dates are  25, 26 and 27 of July.  This is the last weekend in July.  The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed.   The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net.  SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.



Sincerely,



Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net

Straight Survivor '78 - '80

Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/188301123X/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>George Washington



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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 3rd Annual Conference on Treatment Abuse - July 25, 26 and 2
« on: January 04, 2003, 01:04:00 PM »
It's that time again.  The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse.   The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.  The dates are 25, 26 and 27 of July.  This is the last weekend in July.  The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed.   The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net.  SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.



Sincerely,



Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net

Straight Survivor '76 - '80

As your attorney, it is my duty to inform you that it is not important that you understand what I'm doing or why you're paying me so much money.  What's important is that you continue to do so.
--Hunter S. Thompson's Samoan Attorney



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Elan School / 3rd Annual Conference on Treatment Abuse - July 25, 26 and 2
« on: January 04, 2003, 01:03:00 PM »
It's that time again.  The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse.   The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.  The dates are 25, 26 and 27 of July.  This is the last weekend in July.  The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed.   The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net.  SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.



Sincerely,



Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net

Straight Survivor '78 - '80

What a distressing contrast there is between the radiant intelligence of the child and the feeble mentality of the average adult.
-- Sigmund Freud



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The Troubled Teen Industry / 3rd Annual Conference on Treatment Abuse - July 25, 26 and 2
« on: January 04, 2003, 01:02:00 PM »
It's that time again.  The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse.   The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.  The dates are 25, 26 and 27 of July.  This is the last weekend in July.  The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed.   The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net.  SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.



Sincerely,



Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net

Straight Survivor '78 - '80

It continues to amaze me to talk to law students -- college
graduates all and smarter than the average bear -- who will
seriously tell me about how dangerous mj is and how it
destroys the lives of those who use it and who, in the
very next sentence, will tell me how they and their
friends -- now CPAs, engineers, med students -- used
pot regularly through high school and college.  And
they don't see the contradiction between these statements.

We're not just talking ignorance here -- we are talking
deep down, serious, religious indoctrination.


--Buford C. Terrell, Professor of Law, South Texas College of Law



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The Seed Discussion Forum / 3rd Annual Conference on Treatment Abuse - July 25, 26 and 2
« on: January 04, 2003, 01:01:00 PM »
It's that time again.  The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse.   The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.  The dates are 25, 26 and 27 of July.  This is the last weekend in July.  The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed.   The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net.  SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.



Sincerely,



Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net

Straight Survivor '78 - '80

The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali



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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 3rd Annual Conference on Treatment Abuse - July 25, 26 and 2
« on: January 04, 2003, 12:58:00 PM »
It's that time again.  The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse.   The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.  The dates are 25, 26 and 27 of July.  This is the last weekend in July.  The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed.   The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net.  SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.



Sincerely,



Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net

Straight Survivor '76 - '80

May 12-13: Sowed Hemp at Muddy  hole by Swamp. August 7: Began to separate the Male from the Female at Do - rather too late.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/188301123X/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>George Washington (Diary)



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News Items / 3rd Annual Conference on Treatment Abuse - July 25, 26 and 2
« on: January 04, 2003, 12:57:00 PM »
It's that time again.  The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse.   The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.  The dates are 25, 26 and 27 of July.  This is the last weekend in July.  The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed.   The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net.  SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.



Sincerely,



Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net

Straight Survivor '76 - '80

If All it takes is an infinite number of monkeys with type writers, then how come there's no Shakespeare coming out of AOL?
-- Anonymous



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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 3rd Annual Conference on Treatment Abuse July 25. 26 and 27
« on: January 04, 2003, 12:56:00 PM »
It's that time again.  The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse.   The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.  The dates are 25, 26 and 27 of July.  This is the last weekend in July.  The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed.   The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net.  SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.







Sincerely,







Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net



Straight Survivor '78 - '80  


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / my attempted split (or my attempted b-day present to myself)
« on: December 31, 2002, 03:15:00 PM »
ok flashback to another time - Dec 31, 1978.  I'm sitting on front row and have been in the program for 5 days now.  I hate the place, but have been "cooperating" now for the time I have been in straight.  I was promised that I could leave on my 18th birthday if "...I would only sign yourself in..." (quote from Helen Petermann)  So here goes... It's about 8am and I'm waiving my hand wildly over my head trying to get called on.

John L - yes Mike

Mike - It's my birthday today (grin)

John L - yes Mike, I know that - happy birthday to you.

Mike - thanks John, now that I'm 18 I want to leave the program.

John L- now Mike do you really want to leave the program?  You know that you will wind up dead or insane or in jail.

Mike - I still want to leave, I was promised on my intake I could leave when I was 18.

John L - well Mike, I'm not going to stop you from leaving, but....these 300 kids in the group love you so much and want you to stay straight, so they will stop you.

Mike (in my head "oh shit") I bolt for the back door which is guarded by another kid on his phases.   I make about 10 steps when I am gang tackled by 4 other kids.   I go down very hard, smashing my face into the concrete floor.  I then tried to get up , but I was pinned down to the ground.  I start screaming and swearing and stuggling to get up.  I am pinned.  I am not allowed to move.   I get flipped over onto my back and am sat on; one kid on each arm and leg and one to hold my head.  I scream, stuggle and curse.   This goes on for some time until I am physically exahausted and go limp.  I am still sat on.  One of the kids starts whispering to me "...you will never get out of here until you are straight" and then proceeds to thump me in the chest w/his knuckle.  I start struggling all over again.   The kid on my left leg starts sticking me in the foot with some kinda stick or twig or something.  I go crazy and stuggle again until I can't struggle any more.  I am now crying cause I am so mad and exhausted adn hurt.   After the morning rap is over, I am picked up and sat again on the front row.  I slump down in my chair and cry.  The 2nd phaser behind me whispers in my ear that I am a druggie pussy.  

When I get home that night, I have bruises on my legs, and arms where I was held down.  

God it sucked to be in straight.

I try and leave a few days later...I will re-live that when the day comes.   24 frikkin years later adn I still live w/the straight memories.  Sometimes I wish they would just go away...  
 

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
-- Albert Einstein


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / It has been 24 years today that I first sat on front row....
« on: December 26, 2002, 08:59:00 PM »
Holy shit, I just remembered my "anniversary" is today.  I remember after a many hour intake, I was told that 1.  If I didn't sign myself in I would be sent offshore to another program, or 2. I would be court ordered into straight and my program would be much longer and 3.  That I could leave on my 18th birthday which is on Dec 31st.  All of them were lies.   There was no way I could be sent off shore, or court ordered adn I certainly wasn't able to leave on my 18th birthday.   But, that is another story.  I will post it on the 31st and let y'all know how I tried to "split" as a birthday present to myself.   Unfortunely I wasn't successful.  My last words to my parents as they carried me into group was "don't throw away my Jimmy Buffet albums!" and "what a shitty Christmas present"

Mike, Straight Survivor '78 - '80

   

It will be generally found that those who sneer habitually at human nature and affect to despise it, are among its worst and least pleasant examples

--Charles Dickens


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / the DFAF forum is up and running and can accept posts. . .
« on: November 17, 2002, 07:01:00 PM »
It can be posted to now....have fun!!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / had a nice long phone coversation w/Jim and John Sailor
« on: November 11, 2002, 10:45:00 AM »
yesterday.  They both are doing quite well.  Jim is NOT a porn star although he got a great laugh out of it when I told him that rumor was floating around.   Jim did not really want to talk about Straight.   John agreed it was a crazy fucked up trip.   I will hopefully see them over the  Thanksgiving holiday.   Also spoke w/thier dad, Jim Sr.

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