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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Anonymous on August 22, 2007, 08:22:52 AM
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did you hear that the lawsuit was not classed by the Judge? That stinks!
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Dear Colleague and Friends of HLA:
As you are all aware this has been a most difficult past year due to the lawsuit filed against Hidden Lake Academy. Judge William O'Kelley has recently issued an Order dismissing without prejudice the plaintiffs' motion for class certification. HLA had prior to this Order agreed to a settlement agreement rather than be faced with the time and expense of litigation and a possible appeal by the plaintiffs. It is important for HLA, our families, and our referral sources to put this entire matter in the past.
Our focus has remained steadfast on the students and our program throughout this past year. We have added some new developmental aspects to our program which are very exciting. We appreciate your faith in our school, and we want you to know your confidence in our school and staff is well placed.
Sincerely,
Len Buccellato, Ph.D.
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He's trying to manipulate again. There's only 45 kids left at that school and he's trying to get paid a rosey picture of that hell hole.
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Yeah. I would wait until any offcial announcement. You know how his words to parent often contradict what's said in court... but that's pretty typical... Idiot program ppl think they can change the facts simply by stating what they want enough (sadly, sometimes it works on idiots and the mainstream media).
Well... time will tell. hopefully this is a ruse.
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I love what he says about the "referral sources" putting the matter in the past. Let those "referral sources" keep sending kids there and see how fast their butts get hauled into court.
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I love what he says about the "referral sources" putting the matter in the past. Let those "referral sources" keep sending kids there and see how fast their butts get hauled into court.
Why would anyone go to court for referring? Sounds like thewhole thing was thrown out.
::hatter::
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I love what he says about the "referral sources" putting the matter in the past. Let those "referral sources" keep sending kids there and see how fast their butts get hauled into court.
Why would anyone go to court for referring? Sounds like thewhole thing was thrown out.
A paid professional referral source, such as an educational consultant, has an ethical as well as a legal responsibility to refer a client to the most appropriate program. A school that accepts pedophiles - and there is documented proof that HLA has - is not a school any sane referring professional would recommend to a client without fear of legal reprisal.
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I love what he says about the "referral sources" putting the matter in the past. Let those "referral sources" keep sending kids there and see how fast their butts get hauled into court.
Why would anyone go to court for referring? Sounds like thewhole thing was thrown out.
No, no, no, friend. Not at all. If the email is true, it was dismissed without prejudice meaning it can be brought again.
Now, let me educate you from in insider's perspective. By the time the "agreement in principle" to settle had been drafted, the plaintiffs were demanding a trial and no settlement. This actually furthers the goals of plaintiffs and opens HLA to much more legal jeopardy; to wit dozens of individual lawsuits and a new class action more widely drawn including abuse and neglect in addition to fraud.
This, although spun as positive by Len, is a disaster for HLA who can now not "get off the hook" without admission of wrongdoing and a meager class settlement.
Now Len will face numerous individual lawsuits for millions of dollars which he will have to pay to defend individually - each and every one. One or more will likely be successful and include admission of wrondoing and hefty penalties for injuries and punitive damages.
This is the nightmare scenario Len was looking to avoid. In my opinion, this is the final nail in the coffin for HLA. David Sullivan, if you're legitimate, you should smell the blood in the water right now...
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I think there has been some confusion. The LAWSUIT was not dismissed without prejudice. The MOTION TO CERTIFY CLASS was dismissed without prejudice. The case will still go on.
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Thanks for clarifying. Either way, this becomes a horror show for Len. No easy settlement, suit progressing, discovery to come soon - the skeletons will be tumbling out of the closets at HLA...
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Thanks for clarifying. Either way, this becomes a horror show for Len. No easy settlement, suit progressing, discovery to come soon - the skeletons will be tumbling out of the closets at HLA...
So they are not moving forward with the class action suit? Each person has to bring suit individually.
I think this is what it means
::hatter::
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Thanks for clarifying. Either way, this becomes a horror show for Len. No easy settlement, suit progressing, discovery to come soon - the skeletons will be tumbling out of the closets at HLA...
So they are not moving forward with the class action suit? Each person has to bring suit individually.
I think this is what it means
Your right, I believe I read that HLA offered to settle and this was rejected. Now the class has been thrown out each person will have to sue individually. 90% of all cases are settled before they reach trial and trying to sue someone from out of state is very expensive so only a few well heeled families will persue this. If word gets out that HLA settled out of court the wolves will be lined up at the door for their share, so you wont see HLA offering individual settlements. Since the trial will be set in HLA’s home turf they can stretch it out for years. If the first outcome isn’t in favor of the plantiff the others will drop out behind them.
Seems HLA got themselves off the hook this time
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The class has not been thrown out. You are mis-informed.
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what the hell does that email have to do with the class getting thrown out? ya'll should know bucci is a professional spindoctor.
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The class has not been thrown out. You are mis-informed.
one can call the County Clerk Gainesville
678-450-2760. Case # 2:06-CV-0146 (WCO). Sadly, I just confirmed it myself.
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The class has not been thrown out. You are mis-informed.
Exact text from the court filings:
"Plaintiffs’ motion for class certification [37-1] has been pending since December 29, 2006. The court has not ignored the motion. On two occasions, the court has granted the parties’ request to defer ruling on it. The most recent request came on June 25, 2007, at which time the parties informed the court that they had reached a settlement agreement and would be jointly moving to certify a settlement class.
"Plaintiffs’ original motion to certify has been sitting idle on the court’s docket for over half a year, and, inasmuch as the parties will soon be submitting a joint motion to certify a settlement class, the court sees no reason to leave the old motion where it sits. Accordingly, plaintiffs’ motion for class certification [37-1] is hereby DENIED without prejudice. As the court made clear during its June 25, 2007 telephone conference, the parties may submit their joint motion for the court’s consideration when it is prepared."
The motion to certify the case as a class action was dismissed without prejudice because the parties involved will reportedly be agreeing on a settlement soon.
For those of you unfamiliar with the law, when something is dismissed without prejudice, it means the following: "to dismiss the present action, but leave open the possibility of another suit on the same claim."
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The class has not been thrown out. You are mis-informed.
Exact text from the court filings:
"Plaintiffs’ motion for class certification [37-1] has been pending since December 29, 2006. The court has not ignored the motion. On two occasions, the court has granted the parties’ request to defer ruling on it. The most recent request came on June 25, 2007, at which time the parties informed the court that they had reached a settlement agreement and would be jointly moving to certify a settlement class.
"Plaintiffs’ original motion to certify has been sitting idle on the court’s docket for over half a year, and, inasmuch as the parties will soon be submitting a joint motion to certify a settlement class, the court sees no reason to leave the old motion where it sits. Accordingly, plaintiffs’ motion for class certification [37-1] is hereby DENIED without prejudice. As the court made clear during its June 25, 2007 telephone conference, the parties may submit their joint motion for the court’s consideration when it is prepared."
The motion to certify the case as a class action was dismissed without prejudice because the parties involved will reportedly be agreeing on a settlement soon.
For those of you unfamiliar with the law, when something is dismissed without prejudice, it means the following: "to dismiss the present action, but leave open the possibility of another suit on the same claim."
Yes, that is wonderful, however, it took years to get here, and to start over again, with a new set of attorneys re:same claim. Also, why should
Buccellato settle now?
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Thanks, good info, So thats the end of that until someone decides to get the ball rolling again, start over, bring the people together and file a new suit. This could go on for years!
Who is paying for all of this on the plantifs side?
::hatter::
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Thanks, good info, So thats the end of that until someone decides to get the ball rolling again, start over, bring the people together and file a new suit. This could go on for years!
Who is paying for all of this on the plantifs side?
And the other question is who is paying for it on the defendant's side. Two different law firms, Quirk and Quirk, and King and Spaulding, have already dropped Dr. Deadbeat due to non-payment of fees, which now mount into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Get in line, boys.
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Rumor has it that his personal attorney is handling this pro bono because he has a vested (literally) interest in HLA remaing open.
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HLA continually gets by with murder. I cannot believe that they have been able to lie, deceive and make false promises to families while robbing them of their life savings. I can tell you from this instance and others that I have witnessed, there is no such thing as JUSTICE these days. The people with power and money get by with whatever!
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Thanks, good info, So thats the end of that until someone decides to get the ball rolling again, start over, bring the people together and file a new suit. This could go on for years!
Who is paying for all of this on the plantifs side?
And the other question is who is paying for it on the defendant's side. Two different law firms, Quirk and Quirk, and King and Spaulding, have already dropped Dr. Deadbeat due to non-payment of fees, which now mount into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Get in line, boys.
The banks prolly already opened up a line of credit/equity for payment to creditors since the suit has been tossed out. Enrollment has bottomed out and has started to inch upwards (end of the summer is when kids start acting up again, parents are out of ideas since family time didnt work). Edcons are free to refer so life is starting to get good again for the old HLA crowd.
Still time to start up a summer Bar B Q, get a fresh delivery from J&J foods pull everyone off restriction (after they pick up all the geese crap) and start living it up.
Lets see what happens, Aspen is prolly pissed. They were hopeing to pick the place up for a SONG and send more kids thru SUWS while they bring HLA up to apsen standards, perfect spot for them.
Sorry thewho your people will have to look elsewhere, you would have been dragged out and killed in the woods anyway so count your blessings.
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Thanks, good info, So thats the end of that until someone decides to get the ball rolling again, start over, bring the people together and file a new suit. This could go on for years!
Who is paying for all of this on the plantifs side?
And the other question is who is paying for it on the defendant's side. Two different law firms, Quirk and Quirk, and King and Spaulding, have already dropped Dr. Deadbeat due to non-payment of fees, which now mount into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Get in line, boys.
The banks prolly already opened up a line of credit/equity for payment to creditors since the suit has been tossed out. Enrollment has bottomed out and has started to inch upwards (end of the summer is when kids start acting up again, parents are out of ideas since family time didnt work). Edcons are free to refer so life is starting to get good again for the old HLA crowd.
Still time to start up a summer Bar B Q, get a fresh delivery from J&J foods pull everyone off restriction (after they pick up all the geese crap) and start living it up.
Lets see what happens, Aspen is prolly pissed. They were hopeing to pick the place up for a SONG and send more kids thru SUWS while they bring HLA up to apsen standards, perfect spot for them.
Sorry thewho your people will have to look elsewhere, you would have been dragged out and killed in the woods anyway so count your blessings.
Please read carefully: the lawsuit has NOT been thrown out. It is still open and pending. The only thing that was "thrown out" was the motion to certify the lawsuit as a class action. The plaintiffs can continue by asking for a trial or settling. It appears that they are choosing the 2nd option.
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Not true..The plaintiff's have NO IDEA what is going on.. We would like to thank Buccellato for letting us know.
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Thanks, good info, So thats the end of that until someone decides to get the ball rolling again, start over, bring the people together and file a new suit. This could go on for years!
Who is paying for all of this on the plantifs side?
And the other question is who is paying for it on the defendant's side. Two different law firms, Quirk and Quirk, and King and Spaulding, have already dropped Dr. Deadbeat due to non-payment of fees, which now mount into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Get in line, boys.
The banks prolly already opened up a line of credit/equity for payment to creditors since the suit has been tossed out. Enrollment has bottomed out and has started to inch upwards (end of the summer is when kids start acting up again, parents are out of ideas since family time didnt work). Edcons are free to refer so life is starting to get good again for the old HLA crowd.
Still time to start up a summer Bar B Q, get a fresh delivery from J&J foods pull everyone off restriction (after they pick up all the geese crap) and start living it up.
Lets see what happens, Aspen is prolly pissed. They were hopeing to pick the place up for a SONG and send more kids thru SUWS while they bring HLA up to apsen standards, perfect spot for them.
Sorry thewho your people will have to look elsewhere, you would have been dragged out and killed in the woods anyway so count your blessings.
Please read carefully: the lawsuit has NOT been thrown out. It is still open and pending. The only thing that was "thrown out" was the motion to certify the lawsuit as a class action. The plaintiffs can continue by asking for a trial or settling. It appears that they are choosing the 2nd option.
Is was David Sullivan working on the potential Aspen takeover?
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Is was David Sullivan working on the potential Aspen takeover?
I am not at liberty to say, although “Whoâ€
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"Hey, a program just got slaughtered by everyone from the locals to a potential land buyer to Fornits!"
"I know! Let's buy it out!"
"Sounds great! There's no possible way it could happen to US!"
...idiots.
goodwill on the name
:lol:
HLA up to apsen standards
:rofl: Bringing something up to Aspen standards is like advancing a country's economic outlook to that of Ethiopia.
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"Hey, a program just got slaughtered by everyone from the locals to a potential land buyer to Fornits!"
"I know! Let's buy it out!"
"Sounds great! There's no possible way it could happen to US!"
...idiots.
goodwill on the name
:lol:
HLA up to apsen standards
:rofl: Bringing something up to Aspen standards is like advancing a country's economic outlook to that of Ethiopia.
Bet your ass Aspen has been negotiating with the little general. That is an open secret here, and also the hope of us all, except the tight knit circle of ass suckers like Hollowhead and his ilk. You will be the first one to bite the dust, Jeff. I'll make sure of that. And if Aspen buys it, it will be a vast improvement. It won't satisy the diehards, but neither will it be run by a crook whose only goal is to increase his fortune and rip off every one he can.
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:rofl: Bringing something up to Aspen standards is like advancing a country's economic outlook to that of Ethiopia.
Boy, no shit. Same shell game Straight/Seed/SAFE/Pathway/Growing Together etc. used to pull.
What a shame.
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"Hey, a program just got slaughtered by everyone from the locals to a potential land buyer to Fornits!"
"I know! Let's buy it out!"
"Sounds great! There's no possible way it could happen to US!"
...idiots.
goodwill on the name
:lol:
HLA up to apsen standards
:rofl: Bringing something up to Aspen standards is like advancing a country's economic outlook to that of Ethiopia.
Bet your ass Aspen has been negotiating with the little general. That is an open secret here, and also the hope of us all, except the tight knit circle of ass suckers like Hollowhead and his ilk. You will be the first one to bite the dust, Jeff. I'll make sure of that. And if Aspen buys it, it will be a vast improvement. It won't satisy the diehards, but neither will it be run by a crook whose only goal is to increase his fortune and rip off every one he can.
Uh...yes it will. Take a read of the Aspen forum.
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All of the information regarding the petition for a lawsuit against HLA has been removed from the Berger Montague lawyers website now, so something had to have been dismissed for sure.
HLA, you may have gotten off the hook but I am one of the former parents that you lied 2 and gave false promises 2, and I can tell you that you deserved to go down the tubes! I will be more than glad to share my experiences with any current or prospective parent that is considering HLA as a choice for their family. If anyone wants to talk to me and have me give you a totally honest account of what the HLA experience is like, please let me know and I will be glad to give you my email address or # to discuss this with you before you make one of the biggest and costliest mistakes ever. Parents that are in a crisis mode with their child can easily become victims of the brainwashing talents of the HLA staff because they so want to believe they can get help for their children.
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I am so literally disheartened. thanks for bringing this to the plaintiffs
attention.
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Believe me, I am sickened by this latest development. I have given up all hope in the Justice system.
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Believe me, I am sickened by this latest development. I have given up all hope in the Justice system.
Justice? Judges for life? with a flagrant disregard for human life.
It amazes me that everyone wants the football player put away for life for what he did with dogs( I love dogs), however, when it comes to our children, our justice system does not give a damn.
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justice? in america? ::roflmao:: ::roflmao:: ::bangin:: just fuggetaboutit.
there was never a such thing nor will there ever be.... wake the hell up. it's all about who has the most money and the most clout, and who the public would side with.
i know this is kinda off topic...again..
but just look at ed rosethal's case. a medical marijuana grower, who was denied the right to tell the jury that his pot was for medical patients only. he was made out to be this horrible drug dealer, and the jury convicted him. when the jury found out the truth about the case, after the case, they were furious..
or look at carey brock's case
or O.J simpson's.
has anyone looked into attourney gen. gonzalez or ashcrofts borderline criminal dealings?
or how about the president appointing supreme court judges with very little if any experience, which base their case descisions entirely on money, and religious beliefs, in that order?
or look at how celebrities and rich people in general get to choose what private prison they can stay at, and even get a tour before deciding, regardless of their violent history. they get more priviledges, sometimes celebrity/rich violent felons are allowed to leave for work on weekdays, while very few non-felons are even allowed that priviledge right off the bat. while minorities or people with little money are packed like sardines into whichever prison the goverment feels most cost-efficient, even if you're from hawaii and are shipped to serve your sentence in maine.
justice is inherintly impossible. especially is such a diverse society and culture. one man's justice will allways be another's ruin. there will always be people who disagree, because people's "axis mundi"s are so drastically different. it is IMPOSSIBLE to have unbiased judgement, especially with just one judge, regardless of the amount of jurists, especially when the judges themselves are picked to be judges based on their bias, not their neutrality.
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I agree that money talks :cry:
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http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=278587#278587 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=278587#278587)
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Are you suggesting that this judge was paid off by HLA? I believe other schools has been sued and have lost. Maybe the judge just didn't agree with the merits of the plantiffs case?
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Nobody is suggesting that the Judge was paid off. I can guarantee you one thing though, If that Judge had a child or Grandchild that had gone through the HLA experience, he would have made a very different ruling. Any family that has been lied to by HLA and experienced the shoddy joke of what they call an education there all the while paying right at $6,000 a month can understand what the plantiffs were trying to tell the Judge. HLA paints a rosy picture, but the true picture there is far from rosy. HLA had staff quitting left and right and barely had any teachers over the last year. It was a joke to stay open and pretend everything was OK and take people's money while lying to the parents through their teeth. I feel sorry for any family that does not heed our warnings and goes down that HLA trail.
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Are you suggesting that this judge was paid off by HLA? I believe other schools has been sued and have lost. Maybe the judge just didn't agree with the merits of the plantiffs case?
The Judge did not dismiss the case. It is ongoing..
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The implication was that the judge was paid off. Why else bring the issue of money into it?
What specific lies were you told? I am not implying that you were not lied to, I would just like to know.
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If the case was not dismissed, than why has all the information about the petition against Hidden Lake Academy been removed from the Berger Montague site. The information about this petition for a lawsuit and the complaint have always been on the Berger Montague site and all of it has now been removed. Explain tha one.
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I have talked for over a year now about all the lies and deceptions that HLA put my family through. They also had so many unprofessional staff members to deal with employed at HLA. I am sick and tired of going over that all again and again when it appears that HLA can do whatever they want and continue to get by with it. This whole matter regarding the wrongdoings of Len B. and HLA should have been handled swiftly and responsibly,and they should have been held accountable for all their deceptions. This school is a total sham, and they take advantage of families with teens in trouble. HLA does not help..They just take your money and tell you lies. Once you are in there, you then cannot take your kids out until they finish the school year or they will have to repeat the entire school year after you have already shelled out $6,000 a month.
It stinks out LOUD and it does not help kids at all. It just gives familes a break from their troubled teen for awhile. Does paying $6,000 a month for a babysitter sound like a good idea to you. Also, they get behind in school at HLA because they do not have to do much work compared to a regular school. It STINKS!!!!!!
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and throw up on you Lance H. You make me sick. You are the most unprofessional counselor I have ever seen. You do not know how to conduct yourself in any kind of professional way. You need to have Beau and Matthew show you how to relate to kids and parents and act like a counselor. You are PATHETIC and in the wrong job! :evil:
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If the case was not dismissed, than why has all the information about the petition against Hidden Lake Academy been removed from the Berger Montague site. The information about this petition for a lawsuit and the complaint have always been on the Berger Montague site and all of it has now been removed. Explain tha one.
For Christ's sake. Maybe they are not handling the case anymore. Maybe they are doing maintenance on their website. There are several reasons why the information is not on their website anymore.
Call the courthouse if you do not believe me. THE COURT CASE IS STILL PENDING AND HAS NOT BEEN DISMISSED. I cannot make it any more clear than that.
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Wonder why Len Buccellato sent this email out to parents etc. from HLA this week then?
Dear Colleague and Friends of HLA:
As you are all aware this has been a most difficult past year due to the lawsuit filed against Hidden Lake Academy. Judge William O'Kelley has recently issued an Order dismissing without prejudice the plaintiffs' motion for class certification. HLA had prior to this Order agreed to a settlement agreement rather than be faced with the time and expense of litigation and a possible appeal by the plaintiffs. It is important for HLA, our families, and our referral sources to put this entire matter in the past.
Our focus has remained steadfast on the students and our program throughout this past year. We have added some new developmental aspects to our program which are very exciting. We appreciate your faith in our school, and we want you to know your confidence in our school and staff is well placed.
Sincerely,
Len Buccellato, Ph.D.
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The Lumpkin County Office of Clerk of Superior Court
Edward E. Tucker, Clerk of Superior Court
99 Courthouse Hill, Ste. D
Ph. 706-864-3736, Fax: 706-864-5298
I just called, they said there are 23 cases involving HLA (most are HLA going after parents for garnishments). If you have the case number OR the Plaintiff information they'll tell you whether or not the case has been dismissed.
Public information is a wonderful thing, folks.
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i think what this means is the judge knows len is in the wrong, but he doesnt want to try the case because of a conflict of interest, or recognition of personal bias, or whatever. the plaintiffs can just make an appeal, take it to another judge and get a real ruling.
i bet what happened was Len told the judge "i screwed up, let me settle this out of court, you dismiss it, i throw something your way, and in the meantime i bring the school up to standard. by the time the plaintiffs get their appeal HLA will be a new place and their case will be completely unfounded"
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I know of at least 7 families that HLA owes anywhere from $40,000 to $60,000 back to when they took their children out early from HLA and had paid the full tuition up front. Some of these families HLA has owed for almost a year now. So, who is suing who?
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If the case was not dismissed, than why has all the information about the petition against Hidden Lake Academy been removed from the Berger Montague site. The information about this petition for a lawsuit and the complaint have always been on the Berger Montague site and all of it has now been removed. Explain tha one.
Call Berger and Montague! I did. Everyone should. It is sending
a really poor message.
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Wonder why Len Buccellato sent this email out to parents etc. from HLA this week then?
Dear Colleague and Friends of HLA:
As you are all aware this has been a most difficult past year due to the lawsuit filed against Hidden Lake Academy. Judge William O'Kelley has recently issued an Order dismissing without prejudice the plaintiffs' motion for class certification. HLA had prior to this Order agreed to a settlement agreement rather than be faced with the time and expense of litigation and a possible appeal by the plaintiffs. It is important for HLA, our families, and our referral sources to put this entire matter in the past.
Our focus has remained steadfast on the students and our program throughout this past year. We have added some new developmental aspects to our program which are very exciting. We appreciate your faith in our school, and we want you to know your confidence in our school and staff is well placed.
THIS IS A TOTAL FABRICATION AND OUT AND OUT LIE. SEND IT TO
JUDGE O'KELLEY...ANYONE WANT TO PICKET THE COURTHOUSE?
Sincerely,
Len Buccellato, Ph.D.
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well, what did berger montague tell you?
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i think what this means is the judge knows len is in the wrong, but he doesnt want to try the case because of a conflict of interest, or recognition of personal bias, or whatever. the plaintiffs can just make an appeal, take it to another judge and get a real ruling.
i bet what happened was Len told the judge "i screwed up, let me settle this out of court, you dismiss it, i throw something your way, and in the meantime i bring the school up to standard. by the time the plaintiffs get their appeal HLA will be a new place and their case will be completely unfounded"
You people are really dense, aren't you?
THE CASE HAS NOT BEEN DISMISSED. What part of that sentence do you not understand?
"Judge William O'Kelley has recently issued an Order dismissing without prejudice the plaintiffs' motion for class certification."
First of all, Buccellato is using the word "dismissed" improperly, probably because he figures that the parents will assume the same thing all of you did, which is that the entire case was dismissed. Motions are DENIED, not dismissed. Here is the EXACT wording that is used in the court filing: "ORDER denying without prejudice [37] Motion to Certify Class."
The judge denied the MOTION, that is all. I'm sure plenty of you watch Law & Order or other courtroom dramas on TV where they file motions for this and that. In real life, motions are filed all the time and they are either accepted or denied by the judge. Just because a motion is denied DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE ENTIRE CASE IS DISMISSED.
Call the court and ask yourselves. Lumpkin County is served by the Gainesville division office of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia. The phone number is (678) 450-2760. The case number is 2006CV00146.
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The Lumpkin County Office of Clerk of Superior Court
Edward E. Tucker, Clerk of Superior Court
99 Courthouse Hill, Ste. D
Ph. 706-864-3736, Fax: 706-864-5298
I just called, they said there are 23 cases involving HLA (most are HLA going after parents for garnishments). If you have the case number OR the Plaintiff information they'll tell you whether or not the case has been dismissed.
Public information is a wonderful thing, folks.
The case is not being heard in that court. It is being heard in the U.S. District Court. Please see my post above.
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You know, the handful of parents that showed up at the courthouse
in January, before Judge O'Kelley, could have used some support
and not just on Fornits. There were so many excuses as to why parents
and advocates could not make it. Alison Pinto wouldn't even return our calls. I guess she got to big for us, along with the rest of the blowhards
that also make a living on the reverse side. They all write their books,
write their columns, but ask them to step up and help? It is my opinion that it was a HUGE error not to include the media on this case. But, it is not over. If you Really care, then get off your ASSES and quit bloviating
and DO SOMETHING. No one will hear anyone, if one does not take their
voices passed Fornits. Fornits, thanks to all, is a wonderful media outlet,
but it is a springboard, so move with your convictions as many of us have.
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well, what did berger montague tell you?
I would like you to find out for yourself...215-875-3000. then we shall chat.
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The Lumpkin County Office of Clerk of Superior Court
Edward E. Tucker, Clerk of Superior Court
99 Courthouse Hill, Ste. D
Ph. 706-864-3736, Fax: 706-864-5298
I just called, they said there are 23 cases involving HLA (most are HLA going after parents for garnishments). If you have the case number OR the Plaintiff information they'll tell you whether or not the case has been dismissed.
Public information is a wonderful thing, folks.
The case is not being heard in that court. It is being heard in the U.S. District Court. Please see my post above.
Noted. Somebody call THEM then and find out what the hell is going on. Sounds like "L" is right. The Motion was denied, the case was not dismissed.
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I think we understand that the case is not dismissed just that the Judge dismissed the motion to allow class certification for the plantiffs. Well, what we also understand is that now the plantiffs will have to file individual suits if they proceed against HLA. How many parents can afford to move forward with individual suits after paying $100,000 or more to HLA? Helloooooo, we are not dumb, just realistic. To some people, the Judge dismissing the motion to certify the class action suit is the end of the road of suing HLA.
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It always amazes me how parents can somehow find the $$$$$$$$ to spend on a fucking program, but.........
well, you get the idea.
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The problem BEEEOOOTCCH is that when they have blown through all their money thinking they are helping their child at HLA, what do they have left? All they have left is an angry kid who was not helped at all and an empty wallet. You try spending over $100,000 trying to help your child and the see if YOU have any money left to hire lawyers to fight HLA. Don't speak about it if you have not lived through it!!!
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I think we understand that the case is not dismissed just that the Judge dismissed the motion to allow class certification for the plantiffs. Well, what we also understand is that now the plantiffs will have to file individual suits if they proceed against HLA. How many parents can afford to move forward with individual suits after paying $100,000 or more to HLA? Helloooooo, we are not dumb, just realistic. To some people, the Judge dismissing the motion to certify the class action suit is the end of the road of suing HLA.
That is partly true. The plaintiffs named in the case originally may continue with the case. It appears that they are going to settle, but they have the right at any time to say that they want to continue to trial. Denying the motion to certify the class just means that they may not add any more plaintiffs who were not originally named in the complaint. So any other families who have the desire and money to sue HLA will have to file their own individual lawsuits.
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I think we understand that the case is not dismissed just that the Judge dismissed the motion to allow class certification for the plantiffs. Well, what we also understand is that now the plantiffs will have to file individual suits if they proceed against HLA. How many parents can afford to move forward with individual suits after paying $100,000 or more to HLA? Helloooooo, we are not dumb, just realistic. To some people, the Judge dismissing the motion to certify the class action suit is the end of the road of suing HLA.
That is partly true. The plaintiffs named in the case originally may continue with the case. It appears that they are going to settle, but they have the right at any time to say that they want to continue to trial. Denying the motion to certify the class just means that they may not add any more plaintiffs who were not originally named in the complaint. So any other families who have the desire and money to sue HLA will have to file their own individual lawsuits.
Thanks for sharing all your legal wisdom L. It's very helpful. For clarification, it's my understanding that it wasn't the plaintiffs who wanted to settle, it was the lawfirm. They sat for 7 months or so waiting for the judge to make a ruling.
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YOU GO GIRL!