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Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2006, 01:31:00 PM
A therapist once gave me an a paper on organizational incest in order to help me put my Hyde experience in perspective.  As I read that paper, I felt that it could have been written about Hyde specificaly, for its accurate description of the community. What relief I felt. It showed me I was not alone and especially that I was not crazy for having the feelings that I did about Hyde and for wanting so badly to leave it far behind.

Yet, the farther I have traveled, the more the trauma of my time at Hyde has stayed with me. And, so has the grief - sadness for friendships lost, for a community that I thought I was part of but that vanished once I voiced discontent. Most of all, sadness for what I lost as a teen who trusted adults who were not trustworthy, as it turns out.

That was years ago. Yet, from reading the posts in this forum, it seems the concept of organizational incest still applies to what is going on at the Hyde Schools. I would appreciate if anyone else knows about this concept and would be willing to share more about it. This forum, for which I am deeply grateful, like the organizational incest paper, has confirmed that I am not alone in my perception that something is amiss at Hyde.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2006, 02:20:00 PM
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On 2006-03-05 10:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"A therapist once gave me an a paper on organizational incest in order to help me put my Hyde experience in perspective.  As I read that paper, I felt that it could have been written about Hyde specificaly, for its accurate description of the community. What relief I felt. It showed me I was not alone and especially that I was not crazy for having the feelings that I did about Hyde and for wanting so badly to leave it far behind.



Yet, the farther I have traveled, the more the trauma of my time at Hyde has stayed with me. And, so has the grief - sadness for friendships lost, for a community that I thought I was part of but that vanished once I voiced discontent. Most of all, sadness for what I lost as a teen who trusted adults who were not trustworthy, as it turns out.



That was years ago. Yet, from reading the posts in this forum, it seems the concept of organizational incest still applies to what is going on at the Hyde Schools. I would appreciate if anyone else knows about this concept and would be willing to share more about it. This forum, for which I am deeply grateful, like the organizational incest paper, has confirmed that I am not alone in my perception that something is amiss at Hyde."


I can confirm that Hyde's incestuous quality lives on - big time.  Those of us who are still connected to Hyde see glaring evidence of the astonishing inbreeding.  Just scan the list of Hyde administrators and staff and draw lines connecting the people who are spouses, siblings, children or in some other way related to each other.  It's an amazing drawing.  

Anyone who has been around Hyde awhile knows that Hyde has paid a huge price because of this incest.  Like the phenomenon of folie a deux (French for "madness shared by two"), Hyde staff continually feed each other's world view and "We're right, you're wrong." stance toward nearly everyone outside of Hyde.  Hyde is full of "lifers" who have completely bought in to the Gauld cult; they tend to give virtually the same speeches, use the same jargon, and give the same glib answers to questions (especially those that challenge Hyde).  Hyde is a case study of what happens to an organization that uses a cookie cutter approach to hiring staff, training staff, and delivering its product.  Over time these organizations lose touch with the outside world.  Take a look at the number of Hyde "lifers" who are  "married" to the school.  My strong impression is that many of these people have had a hard time in their own lives and would have difficulty functioning outside the Hyde commune.  Hyde gives them a sense of purpose, a clear script, jargon for "insiders," and the illusion that their view of the world is the only acceptable one (standard cult qualities).  I continue to meet lots of parents and some faculty who smell this quality once they get to know Hyde and flee, eventually.  Of course, other parents and staff are seduced and buy into the Hyde mythology.

Hyde now appears to be paying a price for this incest.  More and more educational consultants seem to be figuring out Hyde's severe limitations, incestuous qualities, and questionable competence and effectiveness.  High turnover and attrition at Hyde may be evidence of this.  

If you're interested in reading about organizational incest of the sort that exists at Hyde, here's a book by William White: http://www.chestnut.org/LI/bookstore/Bl ... ncest.html (http://www.chestnut.org/LI/bookstore/Blurbs/Books/A101-Incest.html)

So, you're definitely not alone in your perception of Hyde's incest.  It's real.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2006, 03:26:00 PM
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On 2006-03-05 10:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"A therapist once gave me an a paper on organizational incest in order to help me put my Hyde experience in perspective.  As I read that paper, I felt that it could have been written about Hyde specificaly, for its accurate description of the community. What relief I felt. It showed me I was not alone and especially that I was not crazy for having the feelings that I did about Hyde and for wanting so badly to leave it far behind.



Yet, the farther I have traveled, the more the trauma of my time at Hyde has stayed with me. And, so has the grief - sadness for friendships lost, for a community that I thought I was part of but that vanished once I voiced discontent. Most of all, sadness for what I lost as a teen who trusted adults who were not trustworthy, as it turns out.



That was years ago. Yet, from reading the posts in this forum, it seems the concept of organizational incest still applies to what is going on at the Hyde Schools. I would appreciate if anyone else knows about this concept and would be willing to share more about it. This forum, for which I am deeply grateful, like the organizational incest paper, has confirmed that I am not alone in my perception that something is amiss at Hyde."


Do you mind us asking if you went to a therapist as a result of the trauma you experienced at Hyde?  Am interested in knowing what else this therapist thought of your experiences.  I am too ashamed to report back to my therapist as she warned me NOT to place our son at Hyde.  After reading all the materials Hyde sent us, she saw right through them.  I am sorry I did not listen to her, but maybe I am a better person for all I went through.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2006, 04:40:00 PM
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On 2006-03-07 12:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-03-05 10:31:00, Anonymous wrote:


"A therapist once gave me an a paper on organizational incest in order to help me put my Hyde experience in perspective.  As I read that paper, I felt that it could have been written about Hyde specificaly, for its accurate description of the community. What relief I felt. It showed me I was not alone and especially that I was not crazy for having the feelings that I did about Hyde and for wanting so badly to leave it far behind.





Yet, the farther I have traveled, the more the trauma of my time at Hyde has stayed with me. And, so has the grief - sadness for friendships lost, for a community that I thought I was part of but that vanished once I voiced discontent. Most of all, sadness for what I lost as a teen who trusted adults who were not trustworthy, as it turns out.





That was years ago. Yet, from reading the posts in this forum, it seems the concept of organizational incest still applies to what is going on at the Hyde Schools. I would appreciate if anyone else knows about this concept and would be willing to share more about it. This forum, for which I am deeply grateful, like the organizational incest paper, has confirmed that I am not alone in my perception that something is amiss at Hyde."




Do you mind us asking if you went to a therapist as a result of the trauma you experienced at Hyde?  Am interested in knowing what else this therapist thought of your experiences.  I am too ashamed to report back to my therapist as she warned me NOT to place our son at Hyde.  After reading all the materials Hyde sent us, she saw right through them.  I am sorry I did not listen to her, but maybe I am a better person for all I went through."


I'm not the person who was a student at Hyde.  I'm another parent.  Like you, we ended up going to Hyde against our better judgment.  We too failed to follow the red flags and all the warnings.  After we arrived at Hyde we discovered that so much about this school is harmful to students and parents.  I'll be the first to admit that a small minority of people like Hyde.  But I'll also be the first to admit that I've met so many people who can't get far enough away from Hyde once they discover all the organizational incest, the poor example set by Joe Gauld, the school's inability to provide so many of its students with the help they need.  I'm so happy to learn about this web site.  People who are thinking about Hyde should absolutely know about all the unhappy parents and graduates.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2006, 08:48:00 PM
I wrote the original entry about organizational incest. Sorry for the typo in the first paragraph. I can spell, just can't type.

Thanks to the person who suggested further resources. I will read them.

In answer to the question about my therapist, her role was to help me put my experiences as student and staffer into perspective rather than to offer me her opinions. The organizational incest article came to her mind as I described my Hyde experiences. The nature of the incest in the community was broader than the intermarriage of alums/staff, employment of extended Gauld family, recruitment of extended family and friends of students/staff, although that certainly was part of it. It included the shared lingo and behaviors, the insular nature of the community, and a number of other traits.

Over the years, I have worked on Hyde-related issues in therapy numerous times. Some of the issues are...
Shame for letting myself get sucked in and for recruiting others in my family, betrayal and victimization by adults whom I trusted, shame as teacher/intern for perpetuating behaviors that had caused me emotional harm as a student, sadness because I invested so heavily in what I idealistically believed was a worthy cause that was going to "change American education" , loss when I left the community and relationships there behind, anger at ways in which I was treated, particularly by staff of the opposite sex, dismay when I think of open school meetings in the student union where parents exposed to the whole community their deepest, darkest sexual secrets, inadequacy when thrown into a class to teach a subject I myself had not studied since the 10th grade, shock at the behaviors I witnessed in my trusted mentors as the community turned in on itself and imploded, etc, etc. There are complex layers to each of these emotions, but the most difficult to live with are those related to ways in which I may have caused harm to others.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2006, 09:54:00 PM
So when were you there?

Sid Smith
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2006, 08:52:00 AM
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On 2006-03-07 17:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I wrote the original entry about organizational incest. Sorry for the typo in the first paragraph. I can spell, just can't type.



Thanks to the person who suggested further resources. I will read them.



In answer to the question about my therapist, her role was to help me put my experiences as student and staffer into perspective rather than to offer me her opinions. The organizational incest article came to her mind as I described my Hyde experiences. The nature of the incest in the community was broader than the intermarriage of alums/staff, employment of extended Gauld family, recruitment of extended family and friends of students/staff, although that certainly was part of it. It included the shared lingo and behaviors, the insular nature of the community, and a number of other traits.



Over the years, I have worked on Hyde-related issues in therapy numerous times. Some of the issues are...

Shame for letting myself get sucked in and for recruiting others in my family, betrayal and victimization by adults whom I trusted, shame as teacher/intern for perpetuating behaviors that had caused me emotional harm as a student, sadness because I invested so heavily in what I idealistically believed was a worthy cause that was going to "change American education" , loss when I left the community and relationships there behind, anger at ways in which I was treated, particularly by staff of the opposite sex, dismay when I think of open school meetings in the student union where parents exposed to the whole community their deepest, darkest sexual secrets, inadequacy when thrown into a class to teach a subject I myself had not studied since the 10th grade, shock at the behaviors I witnessed in my trusted mentors as the community turned in on itself and imploded, etc, etc. There are complex layers to each of these emotions, but the most difficult to live with are those related to ways in which I may have caused harm to others. "


Reading your words are like reading my own thoughts.  It is so reassuring to discover that other people had experiences very much like my own at Hyde.  At this point in my life I find it hard to believe I got sucked in so badly by the Hyde mystic and cult qualities.  I too feel embarrassed that I bought into that insular, closed, incestuous environment.  I look back now in amazement that I didn't see Hyde for what it is for so many people - a twisted refuge for many adults who have struggled in their own lives and need the security, sense of direction, and power that Joe Gauld and his flock have perpetuated.  Hyde can be such a perverted environment where the staff live in such a small bubble that they reinforce each other's perceptions of how students should be treated.  I encountered a few dedicated professionals at Hyde, but most left quickly once they realized what Hyde's all about.  I am also so depressed to think about the teachers standing in front of those classrooms who themselves had poor academic records and little training to teach their subjects.  What a disgrace.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2006, 04:25:00 PM
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On 2006-03-07 17:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I wrote the original entry about organizational incest. Sorry for the typo in the first paragraph. I can spell, just can't type.



Thanks to the person who suggested further resources. I will read them.



In answer to the question about my therapist, her role was to help me put my experiences as student and staffer into perspective rather than to offer me her opinions. The organizational incest article came to her mind as I described my Hyde experiences. The nature of the incest in the community was broader than the intermarriage of alums/staff, employment of extended Gauld family, recruitment of extended family and friends of students/staff, although that certainly was part of it. It included the shared lingo and behaviors, the insular nature of the community, and a number of other traits.



Over the years, I have worked on Hyde-related issues in therapy numerous times. Some of the issues are...

Shame for letting myself get sucked in and for recruiting others in my family, betrayal and victimization by adults whom I trusted, shame as teacher/intern for perpetuating behaviors that had caused me emotional harm as a student, sadness because I invested so heavily in what I idealistically believed was a worthy cause that was going to "change American education" , loss when I left the community and relationships there behind, anger at ways in which I was treated, particularly by staff of the opposite sex, dismay when I think of open school meetings in the student union where parents exposed to the whole community their deepest, darkest sexual secrets, inadequacy when thrown into a class to teach a subject I myself had not studied since the 10th grade, shock at the behaviors I witnessed in my trusted mentors as the community turned in on itself and imploded, etc, etc. There are complex layers to each of these emotions, but the most difficult to live with are those related to ways in which I may have caused harm to others. "


Hey when were you there?  Were you around when Hyde Version 1.0 crashed and smoked the duel cpus (Joe and Ed) I am realy very curious about that time. Any info you could share would be appreciated.  

Sid Smith a.k.a Norm DePlume
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 09:45:00 AM
Hey Sid,

I'd love to know who you are....I'm sure we were ther5e together...can I give you a private email to communicate.

Thanks!
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 10:06:00 AM
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On 2006-03-09 06:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Hey Sid,



I'd love to know who you are....I'm sure we were ther5e together...can I give you a private email to communicate.



Thanks!



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I think we were too.  So you get the Sid reference. send me an email [email protected]

Sid
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 04:27:00 PM
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On 2006-03-07 17:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I wrote the original entry about organizational incest. Sorry for the typo in the first paragraph. I can spell, just can't type.



Thanks to the person who suggested further resources. I will read them.



In answer to the question about my therapist, her role was to help me put my experiences as student and staffer into perspective rather than to offer me her opinions. The organizational incest article came to her mind as I described my Hyde experiences. The nature of the incest in the community was broader than the intermarriage of alums/staff, employment of extended Gauld family, recruitment of extended family and friends of students/staff, although that certainly was part of it. It included the shared lingo and behaviors, the insular nature of the community, and a number of other traits.



Over the years, I have worked on Hyde-related issues in therapy numerous times. Some of the issues are...

Shame for letting myself get sucked in and for recruiting others in my family, betrayal and victimization by adults whom I trusted, shame as teacher/intern for perpetuating behaviors that had caused me emotional harm as a student, sadness because I invested so heavily in what I idealistically believed was a worthy cause that was going to "change American education" , loss when I left the community and relationships there behind, anger at ways in which I was treated, particularly by staff of the opposite sex, dismay when I think of open school meetings in the student union where parents exposed to the whole community their deepest, darkest sexual secrets, inadequacy when thrown into a class to teach a subject I myself had not studied since the 10th grade, shock at the behaviors I witnessed in my trusted mentors as the community turned in on itself and imploded, etc, etc. There are complex layers to each of these emotions, but the most difficult to live with are those related to ways in which I may have caused harm to others. "


If there are certain families that you feel guilty about hurting, my suggestion is to try to reach out to them.  Even though it sounds like it was many years ago, I bet they would appreciate it.  

I harbour ill will towards a few people at that school who hurt my family, but more importantly I feel betrayed because of what they put my daughter through.  I would be especially receptive if one of these people reached out to me to apologize.  This would be what the true Hyde spirit is and would help my family heal.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2006, 09:56:00 PM
Does Joe Gauld's language in his letter to the Hyde-DC faculty (in another thread) trouble anyone else besides me, when he refers to Joanne Wingood Goubourn '75 as the "moral leader and ultimate authority of the Hyde community"? Nothing personal against Joanne, but the religious overtones here are frightening to me.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 31, 2006, 02:19:00 AM
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On 2006-03-30 18:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Does Joe Gauld's language in his letter to the Hyde-DC faculty (in another thread) trouble anyone else besides me, when he refers to Joanne Wingood Goubourn '75 as the "moral leader and ultimate authority of the Hyde community"? Nothing personal against Joanne, but the religious overtones here are frightening to me.







"


I noticed Joe's wording also, but it doesn't surprise me in the least!  There were always religious overtones at Hyde.  The seminars are very similar to AA meetings, but the higher power was Joe Gauld the founder of Hyde School.  

Very scary
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 31, 2006, 06:07:00 AM
IT is not surprising to me that the notion of an internal moral compass, and that that compass should be a key part of leadership scares you.  Again Joe never claimed to be a "higher power" in the context of Bill Wilson's writings, or a prophet as claimed in another thread.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 31, 2006, 11:19:00 AM
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On 2006-03-31 03:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

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  IT is not surprising to me that the notion of an internal moral compass, and that that compass should be a key part of leadership scares you.  Again Joe never claimed to be a "higher power" in the context of Bill Wilson's writings, or a prophet as claimed in another thread."


He might not have claimed to be a "higher power" in the one letter, but he certainly has claimed it in the past and seems to still be doing it.

Truth is there is nothing wrong with the leader of this school running it whatever way he wants. It is not for any of us to say. What is important is that potential parents go in with their eyes wide open based on truth rather than the false hype the school dishes out.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on March 31, 2006, 04:32:00 PM
Vocal minority! :lol:
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2006, 08:20:00 AM
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On 2006-03-31 08:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-03-31 03:07:00, Anonymous wrote:


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  IT is not surprising to me that the notion of an internal moral compass, and that that compass should be a key part of leadership scares you.  Again Joe never claimed to be a "higher power" in the context of Bill Wilson's writings, or a prophet as claimed in another thread."




He might not have claimed to be a "higher power" in the one letter, but he certainly has claimed it in the past and seems to still be doing it.



Truth is there is nothing wrong with the leader of this school running it whatever way he wants. It is not for any of us to say. What is important is that potential parents go in with their eyes wide open based on truth rather than the false hype the school dishes out."


Joe has never claimed to be a higher power in the sense in which the term was coined in Bill Wilsons "Blue Book."  The fact that you are willing to lie about that and are unwilling to 'fess up when confronted with your mendacious malarkey, shows you for the "spinless chameolion" ( thank Jim) that you are.  No wonder you failed at hyde. You are a bald face liar.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2006, 05:45:00 PM
Quite the contrary.  I graduated Hyde and was thought of as a leader.  I played their game which is easy to do unless you are totally screwed up. Do you not think that it sticks with me the times I was laying in bed in my dorm listening to one of the girls throwing up in the bathroom because she had an eating disorder?  According to Hyde's rules you must report this or you can go on 2-4.  Well I reported this and what do you think they did?  Seminars, group, with a VERY young gay teacher straight out of college with no experience with bulimia no less girls.  

I don't think much about Hyde, but when I start writing I then become sad knowing that Hyde can and has been harmful to many kids.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2006, 06:34:00 PM
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On 2006-04-01 14:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Quite the contrary.  I graduated Hyde and was thought of as a leader.  I played their game which is easy to do unless you are totally screwed up. Do you not think that it sticks with me the times I was laying in bed in my dorm listening to one of the girls throwing up in the bathroom because she had an eating disorder?  According to Hyde's rules you must report this or you can go on 2-4.  Well I reported this and what do you think they did?  Seminars, group, with a VERY young gay teacher straight out of college with no experience with bulimia no less girls.  



I don't think much about Hyde, but when I start writing I then become sad knowing that Hyde can and has been harmful to many kids."


This is exactly what I experienced at Hyde.  Incident after incident involving other students with major problems-drugs, eating disorders, depression.  Like you said, the school dealt with this stuff in seminars run by teachers who are barely out of college, dealing with their own issues, completely out of their league, etc.  THAT was Hyde, and I bet it still is.  I feel real bad for those students who didn't get the help they needed.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on April 02, 2006, 08:13:00 AM
would you please post the letter?
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on April 02, 2006, 10:17:00 AM
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On 2006-04-01 14:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Quite the contrary.  I graduated Hyde and was thought of as a leader.  I played their game which is easy to do unless you are totally screwed up. Do you not think that it sticks with me the times I was laying in bed in my dorm listening to one of the girls throwing up in the bathroom because she had an eating disorder?  According to Hyde's rules you must report this or you can go on 2-4.  Well I reported this and what do you think they did?  Seminars, group, with a VERY young gay teacher straight out of college with no experience with bulimia no less girls.  



I don't think much about Hyde, but when I start writing I then become sad knowing that Hyde can and has been harmful to many kids."


If you played hyde as a game then you are a failure. I never turned anyone in at hyde because  I thought it was wrong.  I dispised the kids like you that did it as a game to get through.  I was open about my resistance to the policy. Isn't intergrity one of the five words?

Back to my point I would like see some proof that Joe claimed he was a "Higher Power".  I  AA the group will offer to be though of as a higher power for athiests, so I am not talking about that.  So me a email or a document in which he claimed to be a god.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on April 03, 2006, 08:27:00 PM
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On 2006-04-02 07:17:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-04-01 14:45:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Quite the contrary.  I graduated Hyde and was thought of as a leader.  I played their game which is easy to do unless you are totally screwed up. Do you not think that it sticks with me the times I was laying in bed in my dorm listening to one of the girls throwing up in the bathroom because she had an eating disorder?  According to Hyde's rules you must report this or you can go on 2-4.  Well I reported this and what do you think they did?  Seminars, group, with a VERY young gay teacher straight out of college with no experience with bulimia no less girls.  





I don't think much about Hyde, but when I start writing I then become sad knowing that Hyde can and has been harmful to many kids."




If you played hyde as a game then you are a failure. I never turned anyone in at hyde because  I thought it was wrong.  I dispised the kids like you that did it as a game to get through.  I was open about my resistance to the policy. Isn't intergrity one of the five words?



Back to my point I would like see some proof that Joe claimed he was a "Higher Power".  I  AA the group will offer to be though of as a higher power for athiests, so I am not talking about that.  So me a email or a document in which he claimed to be a god."


I am sorry.  That was harsh.  I understand why you did what you did.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2006, 11:37:00 PM
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On 2006-04-02 07:17:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-04-01 14:45:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Quite the contrary.  I graduated Hyde and was thought of as a leader.  I played their game which is easy to do unless you are totally screwed up. Do you not think that it sticks with me the times I was laying in bed in my dorm listening to one of the girls throwing up in the bathroom because she had an eating disorder?  According to Hyde's rules you must report this or you can go on 2-4.  Well I reported this and what do you think they did?  Seminars, group, with a VERY young gay teacher straight out of college with no experience with bulimia no less girls.  





I don't think much about Hyde, but when I start writing I then become sad knowing that Hyde can and has been harmful to many kids."




If you played hyde as a game then you are a failure. I never turned anyone in at hyde because  I thought it was wrong.  I dispised the kids like you that did it as a game to get through.  I was open about my resistance to the policy. Isn't intergrity one of the five words?



Back to my point I would like see some proof that Joe claimed he was a "Higher Power".  I  AA the group will offer to be though of as a higher power for athiests, so I am not talking about that.  So me a email or a document in which he claimed to be a god."

No, I am not a failure and in fact I have become very successful.  I do not judge success by the amount of money I am making, I judge it by my integrity, humility, honesty, and kindness to others.  I am a great success when I look at myself this way and guess what?  Hyde had nothing to do with it.  I take that back, Hyde did have something to do with it.  I was repulsed by the sicko's running Hyde and realized that I needed to work on myself in the right way rather than "the Hyde way."
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2006, 01:23:00 AM
Dear Hyde-DC Faculty;

I apologize for the length of this email, but I ask you to read it thoughtfully, because I believe the basic issue is critical to what Hyde-DC could and should be.

Now that you all have had to think about and respond to the Wednesday Wrap up Confrontation, I want to address what I believe to be the deeper issue that was involved.

I was encouraged by faculty members who made it a point to express their appreciation for what I did, but disappointed that only one faculty member directly addressed his concerns and strong disapproval for my performance. If I am reading the entire faculty correctly, there were many more who were also upset with the way I handled the situation. If so, the fact they have yet to directly express their disapproval or concerns to me or Joanne signifies a serious weakness in faculty leadership.

Further, speaking frankly, I don't believe Ms. Cooke would have refused my directive to stop if she did not feel strong faculty support for her position. Events eventually made it clear that some middle school teachers have been upset by the leadership conflict between Mr. Djassou and Ms. Goubourn, and the wrap up became the very wrong choice to vent those concerns. What happened was very disrespectful to both Mr. Djassou and Ms. Goubourn, and their extensive efforts to resolve the leadership issue of Mr. Djassou.

However, I feel the larger problem at the wrap up was the failure of senior faculty members to provide moral leadership for the entire faculty. If such behavior was in fact known to be unacceptable to veteran faculty members, this professional confrontation and breakdown in authority would never have occurred.

Hyde uniquely addresses personal growth of teachers as well as students, parents and families. However seminars are expressly designed for this purpose, which are distinctly separate from our professional responsibilities. If there are internal conflicts and concerns, they should be directed to Joanne's administration, and not in a public forum like a wrap up.

This ugly situation revealed a huge gap in Hyde's discipline, and a damaging weakness in our administrative structure. Joanne had asked me to conduct the wrap up, which became sidetracked by issues that should have been addressed to Joanne directly and had no business being expressed in a professional workshop. Once it got out of hand, I asked Ms. Cooke 3 times to stop, finally directing her to leave. The fact that many faculty members left with or after Ms. Cooke revealed a major teacher insubordination of Hyde authority.

At this point my anger was directed at the faculty as a whole; how could the faculty tolerate and remain oblivious to this blatant example of unprofessional behavior and its damage to our organization? How many teachers have expressed their concerns to those who acted unprofessionally? Clearly there is a double standard at Hyde; accepting and sometimes even supporting attitudes and behavior of colleagues they definitely would never tolerate in their students.

This situation was perhaps the biggest disappointment in my 53 years of teaching; I had felt Hyde-DC was much farther along than this. However I do believe in the overall potential of the DC faculty, and I am very hopeful the situation will trigger the emergence of the moral leaders in our faculty.

I am examining how I might have handled the situation more effectively. I also believe it is critical for every faculty member to thoughtfully examine their own role. If we are going to accept the moral leadership role with our students, we certainly must express it with each other.

Those concerned with the Djassou-Goubourn conflict should have taken their concerns directly to Joanne; she is the moral leader and ultimate authority of the Hyde community. Equally important, other faculty members should have urged them to do so. The responsibility begins not with the administration, but with the faculty. This is the example the entire Hyde community needs. We cannot lead students and parents if we cannot lead ourselves.

One of the greatest strengths I see in the Hyde-Bath and Hyde-Woodstock faculties is their ability to examine themselves and acknowledge their shortcomings and mistakes–an absolutely essential quality of leaders. They do have the advantage of experiencing deeper seminars than we presently have in DC, but it is a challenge we must address in DC. We have too many situations where the first impulse is to protect oneself from constructive criticism, which is a powerful means to help us become our best.

We all need to understand the structure of Hyde. Hyde-DC seeks to become a powerful and nationally recognized educational organization, which deserves to be replicated. We are governed by a dedicated group of nine trustees, including two Hyde parents, who regularly assess and guide the leadership of our head of school.

At their meeting last Thursday, the board strongly expressed their confidence and trust in Ms. Goubourn's leadership. However they also directed her to reduce her working hours until she resolves her medical situation. Adding to this the vital training period of Dr. Frierson to manage the school, we should all realize that the emergence of the moral leadership of the faculty is more important than ever before.

We recently had the national example of what Terrell Owen's ego did to undermine the proud Philadelphia Eagles organization. The lesson is that no individual is greater than the whole. The Eagles may struggle this season, but they have restored the integrity of their institution.

"When the going gets tough, the tough get going." I know there are potentially strong leaders in our DC faculty, and I look forward to their emergence.

Have a happy Thanksgiving. Regards Joe
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
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On 2006-04-01 14:45:00, Anonymous wrote:



"Quite the contrary.  I graduated Hyde and was thought of as a leader.  I played their game which is easy to do unless you are totally screwed up. Do you not think that it sticks with me the times I was laying in bed in my dorm listening to one of the girls throwing up in the bathroom because she had an eating disorder?  According to Hyde's rules you must report this or you can go on 2-4.  Well I reported this and what do you think they did?  Seminars, group, with a VERY young gay teacher straight out of college with no experience with bulimia no less girls.  







I don't think much about Hyde, but when I start writing I then become sad knowing that Hyde can and has been harmful to many kids."







If you played hyde as a game then you are a failure. I never turned anyone in at hyde because  I thought it was wrong.  I dispised the kids like you that did it as a game to get through.  I was open about my resistance to the policy. Isn't intergrity one of the five words?





Back to my point I would like see some proof that Joe claimed he was a "Higher Power".  I  AA the group will offer to be though of as a higher power for athiests, so I am not talking about that.  So me a email or a document in which he claimed to be a god."


No, I am not a failure and in fact I have become very successful.  I do not judge success by the amount of money I am making, I judge it by my integrity, humility, honesty, and kindness to others.  I am a great success when I look at myself this way and guess what?  Hyde had nothing to do with it.  I take that back, Hyde did have something to do with it.  I was repulsed by the sicko's running Hyde and realized that I needed to work on myself in the right way rather than "the Hyde way."  "


  Hyde works well when it works.  When it does not it fails miserably.  I saw this conflict in situations were the question "Is hyde for hyde or is hyde for the people is serves"
 There in the dark history of hyde is an instance where for the good of hyde a parent was asked to concent to something that would threaten his livelihood.  When this fellow demured he and his family were driven out in a public meeting. Not satisfied with this Joe drove a wedge between this fellow and his children.

Was this good for Hyde?   No
Was this good for the family?  NO

Going back to the AA model "priciples before personalities"  My concern then and remains now is that to some degree hyde is a personality cult where individuals in power are allowed to act mecurically without regard to principle.
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Joey Shakes -Moitoza on April 18, 2006, 09:28:00 PM
I LOVE HYDE

NOT!!!
Title: Hyde School, Organizational Incest
Post by: Anonymous on April 18, 2006, 10:12:00 PM
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Hyde-DC seeks to become a powerful and nationally recognized educational organization, which deserves to be replicated.


This is the scariest part of that letter.