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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on May 04, 2007, 12:03:54 PM
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Ginger she said you did an Interwiew with her? is that TRUE
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[/b][/b]The Sembler Co. (727-384-6000) named Scott Makela a real estate manager, where he will be responsible for Eckerd locations throughout FL. Makela formerly was a broker at Michael Saunders & Co. The company also named Ron Sarrett a real estate [/b]manager. He will be responsible for site selection and development in FL. Prior to joining Sembler, Sarrett was director of retail development for Zaremba Development Group.listed as owned by zappala and sembler Prior to that, he served as vice president of real estate for Kash N Karry.
http://tbp.dev.bayshoresolutions.com/su ... id=7&id=44 (http://tbp.dev.bayshoresolutions.com/subpage.asp?navid=7&id=44)
http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?p=M ... 1&.intl=us (http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?p=Michael+Saunders%2BThe+sembler+company&ei=UTF-8&fr=slv7-&x=wrt&u=www.msg-history.com/detachments/italy/italy_rome.html&w=michael+saunders+sembler+company+companies&d=U38sQ_mdOe-Z&icp=1&.intl=us)
scroll down to 1980 SAUNDERS served under Sembler in Rome
http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?p=S ... 1&.intl=us (http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?p=Saunders%2Bsembler+&ei=UTF-8&fr=slv7-&x=wrt&u=www.dep.state.fl.us/lands/acquisition/P2000/ARTICLE2.htm&w=saunders+sembler&d=RdzTn_mdOerr&icp=1&.intl=us)
The primary sponsors of the House bill were Representatives Sandy Safley, Lee Constantine, Ken Pruitt, Charles Sembler, Burt Saunders, Lisa Carlton
[Moderator note: I have obliqued Nicole's email addresses at her request. This is a tough call. I've tried and cannot confirm authorship of the initial post. (three guesses) but those addresses had not been made public till they were posted here. So, to avoid legal action, I went ahead and did the deed. Please print clearly and legibly any and all complaints in the box provided. [ ]
Thanks! The management. ]
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I have no idea. I'll talk to just about anybody who asks. Just telling them the same damned things I say very publicly.
Who is this and who's asking?
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the first person she tried to contact. I took it as a threat bc she mentions a 7th stepper who after turning evidence to BOB HELM and JAMES GARNER was stabbed to death in her drive way.....
go to the site on Charlotts death and look at the VW in the driveway....... LOOK FAMILIAR??!! You knew her. And this Bonita chick gaduated from UNIV georgia in 2000 w a degree in magazine writting??? Why is she working for a RE company??? she wasnt old enought to "HELP" Charlotte
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:flame: why the fuck is this thread getting horizontal? :rofl:
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the first person she tried to contact. I took it as a threat bc she mentions a 7th stepper who after turning evidence to BOB HELM and JAMES GARNER was stabbed to death in her drive way.....
go to the site on Charlotts death and look at the VW in the driveway....... LOOK FAMILIAR??!! You knew her. And this Bonita chick gaduated from UNIV georgia in 2000 w a degree in magazine writting??? Why is she working for a RE company??? she wasnt old enought to "HELP" Charlotte
Well I didn't take it for a threat. I took it for somebody writing a story and wanting to know some day in the life of the program sort of details. Who the hell do you think is going to take an enough of an interest in this story to bring it to publication/production except for people affiliated w/ program people, darlin?
If anybody's planning on stabbing me to death in my driveway, bring it muthuh! And my mailbox too LOL
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Ok, one of those links is dead and the wayback machine is on the fritz. But I can't imagine anybody w/ a VW that I would remember from hell. Why don't you contact me privately and tell me wtf is going on?
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Just a reminder to those that would actually think of hurting another survivor.
First of any suvivor harmed the first suspects would be obvious. Especially high profile surivors.
So, good luck with that.
Second Im the seventh stepper that turned states evidence and I dont recall that ever happening at that time.
Third and most important, to spite our difference both in political and personal views, our opinions of each other or any other minor differences we might have I GUARENTEE you that IF ONE survivor is hurt, YOu WILL face the wrath of ALL of us. I think no matter what we disagree on, we just might all agree on that so any threats posed to any survivors you might want to think that through. You will be writing a check your butt cant cash.
MH
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I GUARENTEE you that IF ONE survivor is hurt, YOu WILL face the wrath of ALL of us.
MH
Who is "all of us"? Is this like the Steve Martin-Lily Tomlin sharing a body thing? Please take a video to clarify. Thx.
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Marti, who is it that you think I know? The murdered girl or the one writing the book? I remember a Charlotte but I can't imagine how she'd land up in Orlando. Hope she didn't get murdered. She was really nice.
But this is many years later. I really don't think anybody's going to murder me. If this was an attempt at intimidation, it failed. But I really, really don't think so. I think this gal is really just writing a book and wanted some background info. You worry too much.
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Just a reminder to those that would actually think of hurting another survivor.
First of any suvivor harmed the first suspects would be obvious. Especially high profile surivors.
So, good luck with that.
Second Im the seventh stepper that turned states evidence and I dont recall that ever happening at that time.
Third and most important, to spite our difference both in political and personal views, our opinions of each other or any other minor differences we might have I GUARENTEE you that IF ONE survivor is hurt, YOu WILL face the wrath of ALL of us. I think no matter what we disagree on, we just might all agree on that so any threats posed to any survivors you might want to think that through. You will be writing a check your butt cant cash.
MH
Jesus fucking Christ, this gets the award for most paranoid post of the year so far! ::trophy::
How ridiculous! :roll: :rofl:
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Ginger
I have no idea what your talking about , I wrote nothing about that incident. I saw that incident written, it was directed at a time when we all went to the state attorney and I simply chimed in to let them know that we were there and that DID NOT take place, you , I and a few others would have known about it.
I have no clue what that writer about the VW is speaking of.
I simply emailed you to find out if YOU knew what they were talking about , or what they were refering to.
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ROFL LMAO,
Paranoid huh?
Man, I am paranoid because i wanted clarify the facts of some what who was not injured for turning states evidence, correct the record with the facts as we recall. Hmmmm
Paranoid because I felt the need to let them know that neither I , or the two other seven steppers were ever injured. Hmm
Paranoid because i chose to state unity of many survivors on this issue. You do not have to look far to find the idle threats given to survivors from slapp lawsuits, to threatning letters from Miller, to Miller wanting 2 arrested in front of his home, to many , many other incidents that have taken place. They are incidents that in my opinion are amatuer, laughable.
I could continue, but then why you apparently didnt get it. Its ok, your meds will kick in soon so you can see clearer.
Oh btw love the name truly done with class.
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:flame: why the fuck is this thread getting horizontal? :rofl:
I guess it's really tired.
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ROFL LMAO,
Paranoid huh?
Man, I am paranoid because i wanted clarify the facts of some what who was not injured for turning states evidence, correct the record with the facts as we recall. Hmmmm
What? Of "some "what"? I take you meant of "someone."
Paranoid because I felt the need to let them know that neither I , or the two other seven steppers were ever injured. Hmm
Why the broadcast? Why not a email her? :roll:
Paranoid because i chose to state unity of many survivors on this issue. You do not have to look far to find the idle threats given to survivors from slapp lawsuits, to threatning letters from Miller, to Miller wanting 2 arrested in front of his home, to many , many other incidents that have taken place. They are incidents that in my opinion are amatuer, laughable.
Whatever...you seem a little self-absorbed, just an observation.
I could continue, but then why you apparently didnt get it. Its ok, your meds will kick in soon so you can see clearer.
Who the fuck you think you're talking to? Fuck you. What a cunt you must be in RL. Eat shit, you rotten crusty ol' bitch! :rofl: ::bwahaha::
Oh btw love the name truly done with class.[/quote]
Thanks. ::both:: :skull:
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I am not trying to hurt anyone or cause anyone anguish. I jsut wanted to write my friend's story. Please delete my personal information. I am so sorry to anyone who I angered or hurt.
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Would the original anon please contact me? Nicole would like her email addresses taken out of that post.
Thanks,
The Management
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I first want to apologize for taking on The original The Noid's identity, but I am certainly annoyed.(would like portrait also). I do not know any of you from the seed my abduction was 1987. Please remind me what city all that started in.
The point is, it is you that I need some information from. My problem is serious enough, it is not just my feelings that are hurt. I need the wise ones among you to direct me to the social engineering literature, the behavior modification science. I just want the titles and authors or where to look. There has to be a scientific explanation for this condition. I know I know what happened, and I know they know what happened, and you know basically what happened. The elephant never forgets!
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I need the wise ones among you to direct me to the social engineering literature, the behavior modification science. I just want the titles and authors
Glad to be of service! I strongly urge you to obtain a copy of Gone Way Down by the esteemed Dr. Miller Newton. Best book you'll ever read!!
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I can only share what I have learned.
If you are refering to what you suffer mentally as a result of being in the program it is called ptsd or post traumatic stress syndrome. You can google it and find alot on it.
As for help, well its difficult sometimes to find help for this issue as it is so unique however, you can try contacting some of the survivors that are hanging out at that replica building in Second Life. They are very supportive of each other, they have some real conversations about the issue and do the best they can to help each other.
I don't know if that answers your question but I hope so.
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:rofl:I don't have one but what does the DSM iv say ptsd is? There always seems to be a new one. I was not in a war. I spent many days seated on a garage-sale church pew with a homo sexual attatched to my belt loop.(no offense to anyone out there, but stay out of my pants please you know) I dont think anyone, even Dr. Fucktard, could look me in the eye and tell me that my condition is ptsd, or that it is mental. I would attempt to discuss the physicality of emotions however, and what exactly they are. they are more than a little dopamine here and some acetyl-choline there. Another reason is it seems to be the way someone else feels. Could this be soul damage from my brain being tinkered with like a chemestry set? Truthfully, I have worse pain from medically defined problems, but nothing could be more aggravating than this other issue. :flame: Don't ask me, I've only got a hunch .
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I need the wise ones among you to direct me to the social engineering literature, the behavior modification science. I just want the titles and authors or where to look. There has to be a scientific explanation for this condition. I know I know what happened, and I know they know what happened, and you know basically what happened. The elephant never forgets!
Here's a pretty good List to start with. I'm sure some other folks who drop in around here from time to time have their own favorites. So click the little "Watch this topic" link and you'll get an email whenever somebody adds to this topic.
Might be useful, too, to ask around some of the other forums. This one is pretty close to being just a social club anymore. But the other programs work on essentially the same slight of mind and a fair number of people in those discussions have more recently studied the same question you're asking about and might be better able to find what you're looking for.
Does that answer your question at all? Leme know. I'm sort of busy today but I'll do a better job of finding the good shit if you still need assist when I'm not so busy.
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Burt Saunders has absolutely nothing to do with Michael Saunders. No relation. Google all you like. Many people share that surname. Also, just because someone worked for one company, left ,and worked at another means absolutley ziltch. And just because someone is a part of the Republican party doesnt mean they are abusing children in the name of a Drug-Free America. From my experience, the main reason why businesspeople join that party is because of all their wonderful tax breaks. If you find some good solid evidence that Michael Saunders has anything whatsoever to do with Straight or the Seed please post it here so I can read some real news.
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Burt Saunders has absolutely nothing to do with Michael Saunders. No relation. Google all you like. Many people share that surname. Also, just because someone worked for one company, left ,and worked at another means absolutley ziltch. And just because someone is a part of the Republican party doesnt mean they are abusing children in the name of a Drug-Free America. From my experience, the main reason why businesspeople join that party is because of all their wonderful tax breaks. If you find some good solid evidence that Michael Saunders has anything whatsoever to do with Straight or the Seed please post it here so I can read some real news.
Right, I understand that entirely. That's just exactly what the people on the sidelines were thinking while my whole family got ground up in the gears. There's an old axiom of political art that applies here; nobody cares till their ox is gored. The people who work w/ the Semblers and DFAF and CPS and MJCDTFT and the ad council and the community development corporations and the school system, ad nauseum, are being played. They don't know that these nice, polite, wealth and clean people are monsters. They don't even know how dangerous these sadistic lunatics are to the communities we all depend on. If they knew it, they wouldn't shake hands w/ them or drink from the same watering hole, let alone go into business with them.
How do we get them to see it? That's the question.
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Suggestions?
***PEACE***
Just write it, darlin. The crazyness is part of the story because the process drives a fair number of us plum crazy. Don't take it personally. You didn't do anything wrong, as far as I can tell. You just lifted the curtain and looked behind and saw a bit of what we all have to deal with. THANK YOU for not joining in the turning away. That alone shows you for a better and stronger person than most.
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THANK YOU for not joining in the turning away. That alone shows you for a better and stronger person than most.
I agree.
Nicole, when you've had your psyche twisted like these places do to you, you end up a little damaged, esp. in the paranoia department. It's part of why these places are so fucked up, they never go away from your mind...
Thank you for having the decency to keep trying to get through to people re. your intentions, and thank you for caring. Good luck with your piece.
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Ginger means well she is just brain damaged by her experiences
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I hate people that fuck threads up , making me scroll to the right.
Noone got stabbed to death in their fucking driveway..the only stabbin going on around here is self inflicted with syringes.
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..the only stabbin going on around here is self inflicted with syringes.
I concur.