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Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: Remembering on June 16, 2006, 04:32:00 PM

I don't remember any clocks at The Seed. Or any on site when I was a new-comer in my first old-comer's home. Does anyone remember this?
I wonder if my memory does not picture a clock because that was the experience those first few weeks...endless time. Raps, Moral Inventories, little to no sleep. Or if it was a technique that was used to assist the the behaviour control.

Thanks,
Danielle

Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2006, 01:07:00 PM

Yes I think its called clock depravation.  To this day I hear tick tock tick tock in my head.  
It still "ticks" me off to this day.  At least I remained drug free.

Its probably a form of Korean mind control, or maybe swiss mind control.  hehehehe

Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: Ft. Lauderdale on June 21, 2006, 03:45:00 PM

the above was me, sorry I forgot to sign in.

Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: Ft. Lauderdale on June 21, 2006, 03:45:00 PM

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Title: Clocks at The Seed
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Title: Clocks at The Seed
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Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: Stripe on June 21, 2006, 04:48:00 PM

Danille,

You are right, there were no clocks there.  But it was still possible to mark the 12 hours by the cigarette smoking event every hour on the hour.  

It's funny the things we remember from way back then, isn't it?  I don't remember much about my OC's house other than an avacado green kitchen.  But then, it was 1973 and that was the color of nearly every kitchen that was given away by Monty Hall LET'S MAKE A DEAL.

Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: Ft. Lauderdale on June 21, 2006, 04:53:00 PM

Yes you all are right...no clocks, but you could wear watches.  I remember looking at mine so I could smoke on the hour...

Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: Antigen on June 21, 2006, 11:43:00 PM

We never took down the clock in the living room. It was a cool one, too, so I'd remember. Had Roman numerals, so that forced us kids to learn that by rote, at least up to XII. We didn't have a whole lot of newcomers, though. I can only remember a couple of weeks or so of that.

But having none at the building, that's another thing. I do believe that was intentional. The only clocks at Straight were in the staff office area. You could go for months or even a year or more in that building every single day (and I've seen kids do just that) without ever catching even a sideways glance into staff office or a clock. I used to mark time by the shadows on the floor, mealtimes, kids getting in from work or school... all kinds of things. You could get confronted if you got caught looking at an oldcomer's watch. No watches, money or jewelry for newcomers.

               The body of
        Benjamin Franklin, printer,
      (Like the cover of an old book,
            Its contents worn out,
    And scripts of it's lettering and gilding)
       Lies Here, food for worms!
     Yet the work itself shall not be lost,
For it will, as he believed, appear once more
                 In a new
         And more beautiful edition,
          Corrected and amended
                By it's Author!

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Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2006, 08:18:00 AM

At the Seed there were no rules about watches.  Newcomers could have watches.

Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2006, 04:32:00 PM

No clocks, watches. (No coke, pepsi).
That sounds right.

Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: NOT12NOW on June 27, 2006, 08:48:00 AM

On 2006-06-21 20:43:00, Eudora wrote:

 

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I used to mark time by the shadows on the floor, mealtimes, kids getting in from work or school... all kinds of things.

 I remember  counting time in these ways and the strange disassociated feeling it gave me-- time moved so slowly there but trouble happened so fast.  One wrong word and a morning of route recitations could become two hours of insult hurling (hopefully at someone else.)  

I don't remember if no clocks was a rule for newcomers--like no reading newspapers or listening to the radio but I know there were no clocks outside of the staff office at the Cleveland seed.  
 
Before my year in the seed I had never owned a watch but that year it was the only thing I requested for christmas( I was an oldcomer by then.) As I remember most oldcomers wore them.

Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: cleveland on June 27, 2006, 10:57:00 AM

Funny, I don't know if it wasn't allowed but I didn't have a watch as a newcomer. I can imaginge being told not to look at it even if I had one.

As an oldcomer, it was one of the first things I bought myself too. I remember Hank had a diver's watch, and Jack had a nice Casio - I think I bought myself a gold dress watch, I also remember having a water-proof digital. It was about the only piece of status jewelry a guy could wear. Scott wore (and sold) gold neclaces, but even as an oldcomer I thought that was tacky, even though Art wore one, too.

Title: Clocks at The Seed
Post by: GregFL on June 28, 2006, 10:45:00 AM

I remember marking time by 'landmark' events.  Lunch...boys rap...dinner...smoke breaks...night rap....hearing the cars start pull up to pick us up at 10.