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Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: MIKES on November 02, 2001, 12:38:44 AM
Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
A tough 5+ months for sure - lots of good and bad.  A tough time for any kid (who doesn't have it made) inside or outside of Straight.  Lots of good people came from those early tough years - Did they all stay straignt? - Not necessarily the point.  The many good friends I have who completed the Straight Inc. program are living good lives and are in reasonably good control of their lives.


Mike Sobota

Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: MIKES on November 02, 2001, 12:50:48 AM
Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Here is some more of the story.


First host home - Tampa St Pete - Rick Godfrey family.  Very cool house - deck off the back with the powerboat to cruise the bay etc..  Dad was an airline pilot - the oldcomer (Rick Godfrey) - just a big tough guy who was going to stop my ass from getting away if it was the last thing he did in life.  They kept me for quite some time until I calmed down a bit and was less of a flight risk.  On Sundays, the mom would cook a huge buffet - I was ravenous because "when somebody is telling you when and how much to eat, it seemed to me that there was nothing more important in the world".  


Anyway - As much as I wanted to leave Straight all together at the time, the Godfrey home was a nice place to be.


Rick is a good man - hope you are OK.  

Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: Kathy on November 01, 2001, 09:59:11 PM
Hi Mike
Hey Mike this is Kathy Barry.  NOt sure if you remember me, but I do remember you.  Have you gotten a chance to read any of the other pages about Straight?  Just curious.  How are you?  (I'm great, name is now Kathy Martin-MOya, am married have 3 wonderful kids etc., etc.,) Would love to hear from you.  

Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: jeff belflower on November 01, 2001, 08:06:33 AM
straight
Hey Mike, you remember me Jeff. I was in there from Feb. 81 until like 84 or something. I was a lifer there and hated it very much. They totally brainwashed my family into beleiving they were Gods. I really hate what they stand for. I am still looked at like an outcast from my family. To this day they bring straight up and talk it up. I am so f   ckin tired of this hell hole but we endured it. and its after effects so far. write back and I'll talk to you perhaps later. I stayed at Rick's place for a little while, but then again, I was in there so long I stayed just about everywhere. I hate straight. Newton Sucks

Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: MIKES on November 01, 2001, 02:54:57 PM
Re: straight
Hi Kathy and Jeff - Thanks for the warm welcome.  I hope that you are finding the wonder and joy in parenthood that I too have found.  My 4 year old daughter is a doll - we are looking forward to the birth of our second daughter next month.  


I guess the best thing I can do is tell it like it is for me.  It took 5 months of incarceration at Straight for me to decide to get straight in St Pete.  I don't feel alot of animosity for Newton or Ms Bird or Mr. Riddle or Dupont etc.. It seemed to me that it was the kids that were running the show.  Paula, Dean, Scott, Nathan, Kim, Joey etc.......  They were my peers - they did the same things I did - they knew the score so it was tough for me to hate them too bad - I just wanted to escape. I was happy for them getting their **** together but I wanted to get back to what I was in to. - I hated going cold turkey.


No doubt the 5 months were among the very worst in my life.  Maybe the worst.  I loved my newcomers - Seth Wit.. - Arnie Lev..  These guys were treated like kings at my house.  


On (whatever phase) I finished my highschool degree by taking classes at Northern VA Community College.  It rocked.  I then started a business while on 4th phase.  I had an open permission that allowed me to go anywhere I needed to go to run the business.  Seemed reasonable to me.


My business that I started in Straight now employs over 100 people in the heart of Bethesda Maryland and has revenue growth of more than 20% per year.  I earned my pilots license in 1995, multi engine and instrument rating during the years following, have traveled extensively and - now have over 1200 hours flying, own two airplanes etc....


I stayed off any substances of any kind for 10 years.  Decided that not drinking at all was worse than some drinking - have been doing so ever since without any regrets.  


I remain very wary of alcohol and drugs - they can ruin lives - I have seen it.  Addiction is real - just ask a long term smoker.  I stayed off the cigs because I never want to be hooked like that again.  Drugs are most scary for kids because they dive in with reckless abandon (like I did).


I learned a bunch about myself a couple of years ago.  I take time regularly to question my own point of view.  


I hear some of the pain expressed towards Straight.  It is real.  I know it does not work for everybody - It did work for me and worked reasonably well for many of my friends.


It didn't work for my sister.  I think parents need to know when to say when - Straight never gave up to a fault.  If somebody is not taking the medicine, at some point it is time to set them free.  Just my point of view - not necessarily correct.  I need to prepare myself for when my daughter is a teenager.  It's going to take lots of patience, understanding and reflection.


Life is short - respect and honor yourself and your friends.  Seek out the magic that surrounds us.  Live and love.


Party on.


Mike Sobota


Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: Antigen on November 01, 2001, 09:40:07 PM
Must be nice
I left the Program by splitting. Instead of paying for college tuition, my mother refused to release my HS transcripts to avoid 'enabling' me to finish high school. (Yes, I actually tried to sign up for school the very next day after I secured a job, which was within a week of splitting) Then she harrassed my brother and sister-in-law mercilessly for 'enabling' me to pay room and board in their very cozy little home.

So where's a kid to go? I went back home... till she shanheid me into the intake room at LIFE down in Osprey. What next? Well, Mom's not in Pompano anymore, so that seemed like a logical next move. `Course, it had slipped my mind what kind of people I'd been dealing with. Every old friend, neighbor, teacher, minister.... everyone I had ever known, it seemed... even casually all wanted to know how I was doing with my drug problem.


Not only does the Program fail to deliver on it's miraculous promise of salvation for everyone, it does great harm to a great many people in the process of failing.


That's why the "no talkin' ta' splits, pull-offs and screwups" rule. It's a little slight of mind based on Program mythology. Works something like this.


Since drugs are the root of all evil, anyone who's having problems is, by definition, a screw-up and you're not to associate with those kinds of sneeches. Never mind what they say, denial is the first symptom and you know how druggies are always lying about everything.

So you always have a warm glowy, impression of Straight graduates and a rather dim view of those who may regard themselves as veterans. It's never the Program that fails, it's always the kid. It's never the kid that succeeds, only the Program.


I'm with Jeff on this. I'm damned tired of being an outsider in my own family. It really didn't bother me much from about the time I met my husband until my dad died. I didn't really care what the rest of the family thought. They hadn't been there when I needed them and I'd made a good life for myself without them. It rather sucked raising my kids without knowing much about their cousins. But worse things can and do happen to people every day.


But when my dad got sick and needed care, it all came home. I had no real say in any of the decisions. They even lied to me and said one of them would stay the night with him while he was coming out from under dopamine induced sleep on a respirator.


They thought I needed sleep and they thought it wasn't really important to have someone there when he woke up. So the proper thing to do was to humor the lunatic and get rid of her. Then they went out for nachos at the local Bennagins.


Jeff, the only way I know of to deal with it is to wait it out. As time passes, my family has more to go on and they ain't stupid. Mean time, I've just gone about building my life and making my home elsewhere. I married my husband 15 years ago for his money and I'm not going anywhere till I start seein' some! ;-)

Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: 2dogs2 on November 01, 2001, 05:53:59 PM
Very nice
Mike,  I'm glad you put all that down.  It really makes me feel good to see that you took what you had and made the best with it.  I've done the same. I surely banged my head against the wall for a few years after I graduated but I figured it out about 10 years ago.   If life is good , it is hard not to look fondly upon all that has brought you here. Also when your unhappy it's hard to look at yourself when you KNOW you are a "victim".   Also just to be a prick I'll through in this thought:  It seems to me that "bitterness and being ok with the past is sharply devided between those who "copped-out" and those who took the ride to the end.  I see this as a true statistic not an opinion so please save the "abuse" for your memories. If anyone on either side feels differently please so state. I don't want to be mislead...DOGS

Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: Antigen on November 01, 2001, 06:06:14 PM
Bitterness and acquiescence
"It seems to me that bitterness and being ok with the past is sharply devided between those who copped-out and those who took the ride to the end."


Not entirely. I know a LOT of graduates who are a lot more hostile about the whole thing than splits like me.


There is a difference, though, which I tried to illustrate in my last post in this thread. It's one thing to embark on a successful adult life with the blessings and support of your family. It's another thing entirely to start out flat broke and friendless while dealing with the effects of a monumental, long-term mind f***.


I'm very happy with my life. Been married for 15 years, 3 daughters who anyone would be proud to claim (but only we can ;-)), very little debt, good friends, jobs we love and bright prospects for the future. Considering what I had to work with at the outset, I'm pretty pleased with where I've landed up.


That doesn't mean the Program didn't do serious damage to me and mine. We rolled with it, for the most part. Some don't. And you're a damned fool if you think they're not manufacturing psychos under a different trade name right now at a location near you.

Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: gsdlover21042 on December 02, 2001, 02:48:30 AM
Hey Mike and Kathy!
Thanks for the kind words Mike. Loved being a newcomer at your house. Your Mom ruled! Lot's of good eats. I can remember those day's like yesterday and I agree with your opinions as well. Wasn't the program for everyone and it was tough but it did work for me, you, Kathy and many others. I still attend AA and NA meetings daily and every once in awhile I'll meet a parent or two who had their kids in the Columbia, Md program before it was shut down. They always say, "Wow, you were in Straight"

I seem to cycle with my sobriety, 6 years clean, 2 use, 6 years clean etc.. I'm on another clean cycle now. Look out you guys with young kids, my 13 year old son is really making me run for the money. He's EXTREMELY well educated on chemical dependency and so far is doing well in school. He knows I have this disease I'm battling and hopefully that has scared the pants off him.

Kathy, I'm glad you're doing really well too. We were there as 1st phasers about the same time. I hated those blinding flourescent lights, especially after the Friday night parent meetings around midnight. Anyway, see you guys later! Arnie

Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: jeff belflower on December 01, 2001, 12:29:03 PM
re straight
I stuck out the program for three and a half years. I graduated as a 7 stepper and stayed straight for over a year after I graduated. I was going to college full time and was in Phi Theta Kappa because I was putting alot of effort into school and really wanted to be successful. My parents made me write M.I.'s for the year after 7 stepping and they searched my room like good straight parents. I started to party a little bit smoking weed and drinking. My parents found some weed or something and booted me out of the house with no money or hope. I was around 21 years old and living at home, like I said I was going to school full time. After I got kicked out of home I really got depressed and hit rock bottom. I am 37, almost 38 years old now and basically am a straight failure. My family thinks I am really bad and they still love straight and their ideas. I lived in my car for a few years until I managed to do better. I hold resentment towards straight for brainwashing my family, and me. I could use some help, but it is hard to find people to help me because I feel hopeless.  

Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: Antigen on December 01, 2001, 12:29:03 PM
Re: re straight
Jeff, please don't lose hope. My family was pretty well busted up by the Program too. I have lost hope, long since, that that will ever really change significantly. As sad as that it, there's more to life. I just had to change my standard of success to reflect the handicap of effectively being an orphan.


There's no doubt in my mind that I could have gone to college, done well accademically and probably gone on to a successful career or opted out with a respectable, middle class Mrs. But I didn't have the money for tuition, the recomendations, the moral support of family. During that time when I might have concentrated on school, I was concentrating on building the social net for myself to replace that the Program had destroyed. I started almost from scratch. The rest of my siblings were pretty busy doing the same thing I was in various parts of the country.


I have to say I'm grateful to my dad for what he did, but it wasn't any of the traditional parent type things. Couple of times he gave me some money for my first $300 junk car, couple of hundred to get an apartment to escape an abusive lover. Nothing on the order of what most 18 - 20 year old kids would call normal parental support. Mostly he just quit condemning me. If I called or dropped by to visit, he was sincerely happy to hear from me. Invested enough trust in me to rent a house to me when he wanted to move. Stuff like that. And that meant a lot. It made it a whole lot easier to keep some perspective on the quiet condemnation I was getting from the rest of the family.


Aside from that, I just realized some years ago that life runs in cycles. If I'm down today, I'll be up tomorrow. No sense attaching too much signifigance to either extreme. This too will pass. Knowing that, you'll be keeping an eye out for the next good oportunity. Stay in touch, please.

-If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them even if it kills them.
Anonymity Anonymous

Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: St Pete83 on September 19, 2002, 02:07:00 AM
I don't know you; but I was in the St. Pete program in '83. I not only had Rick Godfrey as my first home but he was part of my intake as well. As you know he was the most liked person in the program at the time. Remember his crazy stories about working on the oil riggs? You aren't kidding about his house. His parents were just as cool as you stated. I didn't stay in his home for long because he usually got the tough guys since he could handle them. I wasn't one. Do you remember Dan Tothe? He was my best friend there.
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: str8isabuse on September 19, 2002, 11:47:00 PM
hey dogs, i disagree with you that those who graduated look back with fondness for straight, while those who left are still bitter.  



i don't know a single former straight client who DID NOT HAVE A DRUG PROBLEM (and there were lots of us) who feels ANY gratitude at all for straight, whether he or she graduated or not.  think about it, if you were doing fine, straight did nothing but give you a real-life nightmare.  if you consider the risk/benefit ratio, you come to the logical conclusion that non-drug addicts did not benefit at all, while being subjected to significant risk.  mike may feel fine about straight, but he admits he was a mess before straight.  his sister was fine, and straight screwed her up royally! straight was such a great tool for stupid or abusive parents.





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Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: kpickle39 on September 20, 2002, 01:00:00 PM
it was child abuse pure and simple.   MikeS, (and all others that remember straight fondly)I know, if you look back on what really went on in there to you and all of us, you will agree.  Your life is good cause of what you made of it.  I don't think straight had anything to do w/it.  I graduated after approx 15 months, my life is pretty darn good.  As I tell my parents when they used to say "look what you have done because of straight"  And to that I replied "look what I have done in SPITE OF STRAIGHT" I think that is the more honest answer.   MikeS and every one else, if you can't remember straight honestly, I will remind you.  See, we try and remember the good things in life, cause sometimes the bad is so bad that it really hurts to think about.  For many years (for me it was over 20), I tried to look at straight w/rose colored glasses.  The glasses fell off about 1.5 years ago when I found thestraights.com  Take a look and if you still think straight is great, then I believe you need some serious therapy.  MikeS, I certainly hope you don't treat your teenagers the way we were treated in Straight.  tough love = child abuse.
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: kpickle39 on September 22, 2002, 08:45:00 PM
read my last post and answer me
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: dreammagician on September 23, 2002, 10:49:00 AM
Straight sucked plain and simple. Dr. Newton, evil man guised in a beard of hate. The damn songs between raps and the raps themselves. Sit on that bastard, he needs a peanut butter diet. You are a peace of shit. I hated that place even though it taught me that the world sucks. Gladly there is life after straight.
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: Tampa survivor on September 23, 2002, 05:11:00 PM
I get sick to my stomach when I hear that somebody who has kids now still thinks Straight was the answer.  Your poor little girl may find out what it is like to be incarcerated for minor stuff like smoking weed 3 times or having a boy's hand in her pants @ 13.  Many of us who were in for "drug treatment" hadn't enough addiction to get past a real rehab's criteria for entry. We were sluts and druggies nonetheless, and taken into straight just the same.
What ever happened to your sister Mike?  Did she get a leg up like you?  Did your folks cut her off like Ginger's did?  Is she able to brag upon HER successes?  I sure hope so.
I LOVE the fact that I split off after two years of hell raising and defiance.  It helped me to develop a rock hard sense of right and wrong and love of freedom.  I am politically involved, raising three kids, paying MORE than my fair share of taxes, and making a real difference to real people in a local hospital every day.  I walked away from a sales career at daddies yacht brokerage(LOTS MORE $$$) to become an RN and sole custody father.
I am happy you got what you wanted from straight Mike, but as far as I am concerned, many  people were broken, confused, or worse.  
Even us who are "strong" were damaged.  I hope you get a real grip on what happened to families like ours.
Bill H
ST PETE/ATL
12/80-12/82
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: Tampa survivor on September 23, 2002, 05:38:00 PM
As this subject has gone off topic, see kpickles new post about sobriety and justification of fascism/abuse.
Bill
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2002, 10:07:00 PM
It is CHILD ABUSE to lie, trick and decieve a child into a mind altering facility that systematically tears him down until he is willing to accept anything handed to him, or held from him, in rder to obtain acceptance and love from his captors. Whether or not the child was an addict, an occasoinal smoker and drinker, or simply had an unpleasing attitude, brainwashing and humiliation is ABUSE and is HARMFUL.
The Seed and Straight SUCKED then and whether you can admit it or if it is too painful to admit it to yourself, it was WRONG and INHUMANE.
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: ladyjerrico on September 25, 2002, 09:51:00 AM
I really don't know how Mel Sembler was able to get away with all of this and the other "big wigs" in charge of this whole operation, it's sickning, frighting and very sad. I consider any group like this pure and simple a "cult" they had terminology, motivating with flapping hands, and nearly felt like a Nazi/boot camp for quite some time until we all got out and thankfully still alive.
When things get tough for me in the real world, I think back to myself and say "If I could leave Straight and survive, I can survive anything" and things seem to be not so bad after being through all that horrible torchure in that facility.
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: MommaDebi on September 26, 2002, 06:39:00 PM
I think that, because of my experiences in the Seed and watching Straight arise from the ashes left by the Seed, I was able to raise my son with a degree of honesty and acceptance that I was never on the recieving end of....
I am clean and sober, because i choose to be.

My son is clean and sober because like all teens he prides himself on "Being Smarter Than Mom"!! :smile: I say "good for you!!"

I would never have placed him in a facility like these....I think it is all in the early childhood time that children are able to become who they are supposed to be...with support, honesty , encouragement and love.
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: ladyjerrico on September 27, 2002, 01:25:00 AM
I believe that a strong family relationship and your own trial and errors allow the key to success, and only if you choose to use what you have learned will it be successful.
I am very happy to hear that your son is free and clean! I wish I never started smoking cigarettes, I hung out with the wrong crowd while my parents were beating the crap out of me.
I think that all teens should be respectful of others and understand how difficult it is when you do the wrong thing, but also learn from the mistakes so it doesn't occur again.
I see children now a days (I'll be 30 in Nov) that when I was that young I never knew half the things they know now.. how life has changed, and sometimes for the better!
I am glad to hear something good for once on this website :smile:
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: dreammagician on September 27, 2002, 01:36:00 AM
Being sat on and spit upon is one thing. To take away my pride and my joy of life is another. Humiliate me, put me down, and then just brainwash any good that was in me and let everyone in the world know that I am a druggy scum bag that deserves nothin in life but turmoil. I hat this place and I will always really try to get back what I feel I and others deserve, just a little respect.
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: ladyjerrico on September 28, 2002, 01:04:00 AM
I whole heartly agree with that last sentance. I do what I can to understand human nature and try to be kind to others, after all, this is the only life I have and I don't plan on putting anyone through the humiliation, torchure and low-self esteem that Straight gave me, that is the LAST thing I would want to do to someone.
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: Reid Martin on October 03, 2002, 02:01:00 PM
Wow Mike, I had no idea you had done so well.  Your story is quite inspirational!  My story is more like a cross between Arnie's and Jeff.  Thanks to both of you guys for opening the door for me.  I've had various degrees of success and failure over the past 20 years.  At one point had more money than God and at another was in a State Mental Hospital for commiting suicide.  I was at that "bottom" when I first found the StraightSurvivors messageboard.  I was visitor number 15 or something.  Kathy made me feel so comfortable at a time of terror as the memories of Straight began to flood my mind.  I learned about Dissociative Amnesia and why I had lost so much memory.  My life has been filled with death and tragedy since I was 12 when I watched my father take his last breaths under the wreckage of a Cessna Airplane.  My Grandfather and Aunt died later that year, then my mother slowly died of cancer, my grandmother later on and...just as I was healing at about 28;  My sister was kidnapped from her suburban home, raped and murdered for the PIN number on her Gold card.  I medicated and sedated myself heavily for the next 5 years.  Nearly got my face blown off in a chemical explosion which sent me to the burn unit and 7 months of quarantine while my skin grew back.  I became a champion in commercial real estate;  Development, rezoning, assembling large tracts of land for shopping center developers and then pain and addiction caught up with me.  I bought a farm, quit my job with plans to restore a herd of musclecars I had accumulated.  I didn't.  I stayed high or drunk most of the time and thoroughly damaged my reputation.  Alone and completely isolated, with too much money, drugs, and pain I didn't know how to process, I started remembering Straight.  That didn't help.  I started out with rage and anger.  I heard of all those who didn't make it.  Eventually, I too, tried to "off myself" (in Ginger's words).  The police found me unconcious in my truck in the woods with a garden hose in the exhaust pipe.  When I got a little better, I felt compelled to tell everyone on the messageboard that I almost got added the memoriam page.  I believed that it was important for some reason.  Ever since I haven't felt very included.  Several emails went back and forth where they forgot to take me off of the email list and I got to read about how I was a whacko, unstable, and dangerous.  Shortly after that I found NA and AA.  I've been clean & sober for 17 months today.  Worked for a year a job to re-learn some disapline, and am now selling all those classic cars cars and property to pay for medical school.  I've got about 2 more years to complete Bio-chemistry and then I'm going to Harvard Medical School for my MD.  Sure, I won't finish my residency until I'm 47.  I am finally doing what I want to do, and living up to my own potential.  I feel better than I ever have, and am in better physical health than ever.  I do have rather severe case of rheumatoid arthritis but sobriety qualifies me for a special treatment that keeps it in remission.  I'm always afraid to say anything about recovery but, it's been great for me.  And, it is so very different from Straight.  Straight wasn't about recovery, perhaps that was the initial intention, but it didn't stay that way.  
Being connected to others who shared that experience has been especially beneficial for me.  That's why I put time into the StraightInc.com site, to allow others the benefits of contact.  Some people hold special places in my memory, and finding them has been awesome.  I guess I mostly want to help anyone I can avoid the pain I've been through.  My bitterness towards Straight has run its course.  Now I just see it for what it was.  I was there when I needed grief counseling, not incarceration.  After I left I stayed straight for 2 years, had a 4.0 in college until my mother died, then started drinking.  My addiction took over only after years of unresolved pain and grief.  

Reid Martin
[email protected]
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: St Pete83 on October 11, 2002, 05:10:00 AM
Hey dog! Each person has his or her own personal memories about Straight and their feelings are just as legitimate as yours. There were many good people in Straight; and many were able to forge true friendships even in those "worst of times". You may not have any good memories about others in the program; but many others do. I spent some time spewing out hatred about the place as well. After a while I got tired of being angry.


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Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: Infinity on October 11, 2002, 12:31:00 PM
Harvard med school?... wow.... I'm having a hard enough time just getting through college!

That's one of the best ways of getting revenge though--living a good life, in spite of what they did to you... shows them they can knock you down but they can't keep you down...
Title: Straight - St. Pete - Springfield '81-'83
Post by: Tampa survivor on October 11, 2002, 02:07:00 PM
I would like to say to Infinity, HANG IN THERE. Study what you DREAM to BE. Reid wanted to be a doctor.  Great story there. I wish I knew him.  We have software designers,lawyers, sales professionals, more than a couple of DR's and RN's,and all sorts of other sucessful Straight people here. Don't settle for less. College is tough.....I KNOW because I went to RN school with a fresh divorce and custody of 3 young'uns.  As a 30-something guy. This leads me to my second point:  sucess IS my revenge. I transcended revenge when I finally believed I did not need it.   Every time i remember my tormentors at straight predicting what my future would be, I just grin.
There IS a recurring dream where V Miller Newton wakes up on MY unit at the local   trauma hospital...oh, placing traction and starting a 16 gauge IV line would reach a new plane of pleasure for me....
Bill
12/80-12/82
St Pete & Atlanta