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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / ISAC makes online survery available.
« on: February 14, 2003, 08:12:00 PM »
No. Your IP address is logged every time you post on these sites and the hosts of each forum can view it. If ISAC is running their site off of their own server, is using someone elses programs that displays IP's or has a link (such as a logo) to their own server then they can view IP's of everyone who visits their sites.

BUT I'm sure nobody has anything to worry about and the people of ISAC have no need for the IP's of people who fill out the survey. The court order thing comes into play in situations when there is something illegal online and the service provider does not have to hand over IP addresses to the authorities unless they've provided a court order first.

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News Items / Investigation into AARC
« on: February 13, 2003, 05:37:00 PM »
This is a typical response from any AARC/Synanon/Straight/Kids/Safe parent which I have heard many, many times regardless of the childs behaviors or seriousness of addiction (if addicted at all). In order for clients to progress they have to "admit powerlesseness" by confessing that they would be deadinsaneorinjail without the program - AARC's version of the program. Thus anyone who can't sign themselves out of AARC would be dead without AARC.

Also if you took a poll of every Synanon/Straight/Kids/AARC/Safe parent you would  probably find that less than %10 are willing to admit that it was at least a mistake to put their children through it, even if their child won in court for charges of abuse. It's all about how people choose to live with themselves.

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News Items / Just checkin this out
« on: February 07, 2003, 09:19:00 PM »
Welcome to membershiphood!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / traumatic night
« on: February 06, 2003, 09:47:00 PM »
That's good. Maybe just seeing that there are actual nice places out there still will be bennicifial too. And being reminded that he is worth being treated as an equal even in his worse times.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / traumatic night
« on: February 06, 2003, 08:06:00 PM »
sorry, guess you can't PM me unless you know it's me huh?

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News Items / Investigation into AARC
« on: February 06, 2003, 06:24:00 PM »
Wow, that's really funny, but re-read "What a Voice is For" please before you come in here and try (poorly) to scare people out of talking. Sorry, there's no law about telling your own experiences and things that you've witnessed. However you can loose your license if you use names of clients or details of their experiences that can be traced to them...But..Oh...You have to actually be licensed in the first place in order for that to happen.

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News Items / Everyone not dead seems to be doing fine! (whatever)
« on: January 27, 2003, 01:45:00 AM »
I pasted your post to the Straight Inc. Forum for you and I hope that you get some helpful responses there. I am sorry about your experiences. I think that I read on thestraights.com that Straight inc. directly affected 10, 000 people. Amongst those people there are bound to be some others who didn't follow the chain of comand, and who also truly tried their hardest to follow what they believed was a good program.

Good luck to you and your wife. You're welcome to post on this board like any of the others.

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Copied and Pasted from a post made on my AARC forum (not by me).



" Ok ready for some honesty? Here goes. I was a member of Stright/Phoenix Institute for adolescents during 92-94. I was put on a setback during second phase, I think that was a standard practice if you didn't 'misbehave'. That way, sice most people are full of shit anyway, they can make you think they can 'sense' the guilt or something. So, since I actually thought I had a problem and wanted assistance, I did exactly what they told me to do. Which as you all know included sharing many intimate details about myself. Many of which were horribly degrading sexual acts. Was I happy, probrobly not, but I was in a place where I wasn't dead. All that talk struck a chord with me because I knew I was at the brink of suicide and had told my parents that I needed to get away from them and get help somewhere before I was dead. That glimmer of infantecimal hope had been extinguished, I knew I would never make out of life what I wanted. I tried to be courteous and friendly, even to my abusive captors. I mean I was still alive right? There wasn't too much else to be happy about in my life at that point. On one day, as hope seemed to be entering back into my life, I must have been smiling too much or something. In goal setting at the begining of the day a rude little bitch called Camile decided to say I had to be dishonest because no one could be as happy as I seemed to be in Straight, and I needed to 'get real' and 'get honest'. Camile If you read this... Fuck you! Well this seemed to catch on like wildfire, because 'Tom' a snaggle-toothed redneck child abuser had taken me as hit pet because I came in trying to 'work the program'. This is probrobly the reason that accusation caught on like wildfire. I had just skipped off of 1st phase in 2 weeks or close to it. I was confronted relentlessly for 2-3 weeks for anything I may have held back or not disclosed. My parents were even told by my second phase leader that I said my dad had sexually molested me, when I had said nothing of the sort. I had actually been relating a childhood memory that I remembered him carrying me near the woods in the darkness and had been crying to go back. They kept wanting to know what I was holding back, so there was nothing, day after day, after day, after day.... Then I came up with it! There could have been only one thing that I was dishonest about. You see I was a charismatic and extreemly likeable person before I came to treatment. I didn't make it a habit to call people on their crap and accepted lies as mere embelishments, and I lied plenty myself as well at that time. Perhaps I was being torn apart on my inside from the flashes of sexual abuse I tried to block out, but I was still charasmatic and had a large network of friends. Well, that was it you see, I didn't like treating people like crap. So that's what I got honest with. The only other newcomer I ever yelled at was a kid called Nick, and that was because he threatened me with a poolstick and spit in my face. He's lucky I didn't kill him in the back window of the 'host dads' car. I had just told the host parent and all the other phasers I would knock the hell out of them and see them in jail if they tried to stick their fingers up his ass, because he said that he had a pen shoved up it. As repayment for me always being non-intrusive with him and letting him sit in silence if he wished he had spat in my face, when I was the only one that prevented him from being sexually molested. Course ADD kids have never cared for me in the least for some reason. So that was my one 'mistake' after 'getting honest'. Now, that I've examined the proverbial mote in my own eye, time for the 'gnat' in yours. There were plenty of people that would tell me out of group, man I think it's really great that you made a stand like that. I really agree with you man and the like. These same people would go back to the build ing and host homes and yell and scream at their newcomers. One of them even found great pleasure in having one of his newcomers ask to pick up and play with his turds. No, don't worry he was only put on a setback that lasted half the time of mine, and even though he started working the program far after me graduated months ahead of me. I would stand up to the staff members when they threatened to 'call days in'. Tell them I would still not confront viciously because then I would be breaking the 1st most important rule. Which is honesty for all of you that have forgoten. I also found out the honesty thing was just a joke when I graduated. That everyone had been holding 'something' back. Oh if I would have known, all the things I wouldn't have said...

Now it seems that those who aren't dead and are all doing fine. Well not me. I can rarely get up enough desire to ever leave my home. I am depressed and miserable. I have recurring dreams where I am back in school in treatment and I cry uncontrollably for myself and without end, and I wake daily/nightly from whichever sleep schedule I'm on today in soaking sweat. I am terrified to go to seek any sort of counseling, all my counselers have screwed me over. My first psychologist told my parents never to reveal my IQ scores, of couse it was fine for my brother to know his, so I grew up thinking I was retarded but had learned to learn in my own way so no one would know. Another family counselor would recommend 'Straight' to my parents, of couse he never saw me. My psycologist in PIfA told me he was going to turn in the center for the string of abuses that I suffered at their hands. Of course instead he took a salary and 'guy's group' became 'Greg's group'. I stayed the course through terrible emotional torture to graduate. I didn't want the program to be a crutch for me. Didn't want to ever look back and say, "you know, my life could have been different if only i'd graduated PIfA". Of course according to all your sites that I've seen so far there was no abuse that occured there. They just changed instantly from their ways. If anything was kinder and gentler in that place it was because I insisted upon it.

So when I want help I've looked here. You're all so critical of 'Stright'. Whining about how they're all out for money. Well what about you all? Am I supposed to be happy people were winning suits against the place I was imprisoned in while I was imprisoned? I've seen no money, but it looks like this Straight recovery thing is turing into a booming busines. Why I even found that I would only have to pay a psychiatrist $100 for the first half-hour! How wonderful! Especially when I can't even hold a job, because I can't lie and falsy stroke people's ego, and that's the way life is. Everyone lies. I used to be able to lie, to be charasmatic, to get along with people. Now, just like this post, everything is an argument. I have problems reading for long periods of time and I used to love curling up with a good Stephen King book or some other horror and reading most of the day. I don't think I've been able to finish a book since I left treatment, or finish school, or work...

So what is my point? It makes me angry that you were all able to abuse the hell out of your newcommers for no other reason then you were told. You are all no better then the Nazi's in Germany during WWII that were 'just following orders'. I watched at least four child molesters walk out of that place free. Perhaps some of you who are 'doing fine' now are them. You must have your new young thing at your side or something. Even if not, it irritates me to no end how as soon as it wasn't called Straight you all think the abuse stopped, and also that you feel fine. I'm sorry but I don't think 'child abusers' should ever feel 'fine'. Of course I guess psychiatry is the new church, pay enough money and they'll brainwash you into having peace of mind. Even though you don't deserve it. I hope and pray to the one and only god, Science, will soon crush your false religion to."

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "What Can I Do?"
« on: January 27, 2003, 01:21:00 AM »
This was posted on my forum accidentally and the original poster asked me to copy it to here.


"My husband feels hopeless against the overwhelming physical and emotional problems he incurred during his torture at the Phoenix Institute of Atlanta '92-'94. He is hopelessly depressed and does not feel like a functioning human being and really wants to. I dont know what to do and need help. Please if you have any suggestions let me know."





[ This Message was edited by: velvet2000 on 2003-01-26 22:23 ]

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News Items / What a Voice is For
« on: January 10, 2003, 07:15:00 PM »
Do any of you remember the first time and oldcomer or staff member told you all of the ruls to your Synanon? Maybe even a "RAP" session was held to tell you about them all? I remember it like it was yesterday. The majority of the rules were based on what you could NOT talk about, and what you HAD to talk about. What a strange form of control to take a persons right to voice themselves away. Esepcially when you are a person who really knows how to use your voice, that is, to understand the power of your own words and to use them wisely. To think before you speak instead of just rambling out words. To only use hurtful words when you accept the consequences and know that indeed they do come back to you so you must think first. Or to only bother preaching to the people who are open to hear it in the first place. I guess some people don't understand the term "wasted words".



Today I'd just like to give a little reminder to some people about taking voices away. How do you handle it? To you try to squeal louder, or look before you leap?

[ This Message was edited by: velvet2000 on 2003-01-11 16:54 ]

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News Items / Did Anyone see the Film "Saving Crystal"
« on: January 04, 2003, 06:46:00 PM »
I didn't see it but people have sent me their reviews on it and descriptions. Wes Farger wrote a review under News on http://www.thestraights.com.

I assumed that it was regular group sessions that were  being described to me. One person said "It seemed as though most of the documentary was Dr. Vause antagonising the clients, and one awful" I think he said awful, or dreadful, something like that..."female counselor breaking down kids self esteem". One person noted that Dr. Vause asked at one point "Who here is being treated for drug addiction" and only half of the kids raised their hands. It never occured to me to ask anyone I know who was there recently whether or not they were also openly "treating" "behavioral dissorders". I doubt that it was "addicted" kids "misbehaving", not only because of how much trouble they would be in, but also because I can't see any other reason why he would ask the question. All I can say about that is "Progression".

So from what I hear there were regular group sessions shown, and probably an Open Meeting, but if not it could be for more reasons then just not wanting to show Group on film. They've certianly filmed group sessions before, they just calm them down. AARC may not be concerned with confidentiality but most film crews are, and therefore they would only be able to film kids in group who had given permission, and that's harder to arrange than filming one girl and her counselor.

Someone taped it for me so sooner or later I'll be able to see it for myself. It was up against CSI...Which one would you choose?!

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News Items / CBC documentary on AARC
« on: December 26, 2002, 09:57:00 PM »
Yeah I heard about that documentary. Anyone notice anything strange about that picture on the web page? Is that a black person in the picture? Or did they just hire her as an extra?!!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "update"
« on: December 26, 2002, 09:51:00 PM »
Hey Kilgore. I am happy to hear that you've been able to speak with your brother, but sad to hear the results, and sad to hear that it's been so long since you've spoken and could be some time again. What you said brought back a lot of memories. The whether and all of the little things that he sounded so excited about, I'm sure that he really is. Little privaleges like talking to a relative on the phone are a huge deal, and every little thing you can find some happiness in you search for, kind of like prisoners of war and their pet mice/rats.

I'm glad that you are forward enough to be able to have a simple argument with him, but right now he can't go there. Later on when he's further away from it he may be able to get into it with you. In the meantime he knows how you feel, and he just wants someone outside of AARC to still support him through it, and if when he's ready he sees someone like you who is not in AARC or the 12 steps and yet is still a functioning human being who is not spiritually dead or physically dying, then perhaps he'll really be able to hear you.

Have you also not have had close contact with your parents all of this time?

Best of wishes,

Velvet.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Its Christmas Time and/or Holiday Season
« on: December 20, 2002, 11:55:00 PM »
And a happy Yule to you too!

*hugs*

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / In response to all...
« on: December 05, 2002, 12:30:00 AM »
Like I said, this is not a rap, and I don't have to be engaged in games anymore for the sake of regaining freedom. I do however have to protect myself and my family which is why I don't give you guys anymore paper trails to follow through with your death threats. You can try to insult all you want to try to get personal information out of me, but we're not 13 year olds in secure treatment here. I'm sorry that you are so used to getting whatever you want by holding power over children, but in this world what you are doing is considered harrassment, which is exactly why I suggest you stop.

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