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ook, well im not out to compete with anyone....but anyone who exposes truths about elan and the abuses perpetrated upon kids, as long as its factual is ok in my book....i just want to see people held accountable someday.....as for your stories, i dont know which are which, there are a lot of people who post anonymously, but for the most part there is some interesting stuff posted, theres a lot of sensless stuff posted, but thats on the poster.....whoever you are if your into exposing the corruption go for it :smile:

amazing.....so what if elan wasnt hell for you mr real estate mogul, so because thats your opinion i guess we should all follow the leader and once again be stifled in our thinking, feelings, and civil rights? NOT !!!!!! get a clue......

more than i can even get into......other than my mental and physical health im ok.....elan took away my trust, what innocence i had,my love for life, my faith in humanity, my feeling of self worth, half my mind and most of my spirit, as well as gave me sleepless nites, nightmares, daymares, inferiority complex, anger beyond imagination, and so much more......

thank you elan, ive never thought of the human race the same........

most of my time in elan i spent in the corner. The first experiance i remember was in elan five. I was thirteen, I refused to do the customary song and dance that newcomers had to perform in their first morning meeting. Neil Kurzman put me in the corner in the room next to the broadcasting room upstairs. He would get in my face and turn bright red screaming at me telling me I would not be permitted to eat, or sleep, or doing anything else until I did the song and dance. I know I pissed him off, I got right back in his face and was screaming back. I am pretty sure that I did not do the song and dance for quite sometime, at least not to their expectations. I spent quite some time in the corner of the broadcasting room, I know I had many p.os, I remember carolyn t, carl s,julie b, mary jane c, and Im not sure who else. There were times that I spent weeks and months as a corner person, I would have my head in my hands and go off to that black place in my mind for hours and hours, sometimes days. I can remember the feeling of floating away, I still do it today, my therapist says its dissassociation. I know that in every house i was in, elan four, elan five, and elan eight, and even elan three, that i spent alot of time in the corner in that black hole in my mind sometimes other places in my mind but I remember the blackness the most. I was in the corner in the old schoolhouse trailer, elan three broadcasting room, that little room outside the dining room, the business office, the school rooms in elan eight, the staff office in elan eight, the dorms in elan eight, the cells in elan four, the expeditors office in elan four, the broadcasting room in elan four, the dining room in elan four, the communications dept in elan four which was also i think the english room,in elan five, the broadcasting room, expeditors office, some room upstairs on the very far left of the hallway, the staff office, the womans dorms, the dining room. There were other disciplinary measures as well that I partially remember, but only a very very small part of at this time. I know I was outdoors on at least a few occassions, doing what I have no clue, but I know I was outside at elan five, elan eight and elan four. Why, at the present time I have no clue. Maybe someday my mind will let me know. Most of these things I am just starting to remember. It's hard to believe that after 20 years memories are just starting to surface. Each day that I think about things Im reminded what a piece of shit I was to people there,and how it still hurts so bad I sit here and cry and wonder how come nothing was ever done and how that place can still be open today with some of the same staff members being there. Well I think I better quit thinking for now cause I feel that fucked up feeling coming up in my throat and like im starting to float sideways.

ya, i have mega problems with relationships as well......i always had an inferiority complex but after my stay in elan i didnt really question whether i was worthless or not, i just knew i was. its only been in the past year that ive been able to realize im not the floating turd in the toilet of life that they made me believe i was.....on the trust thing, dont know if that will ever happen.....its been 20 years since i was there, if it hasnt happened by now, i doubt it will.....

neway, take care and let your feelings be known cause keeping them inside about all this, isnt the way to go.....

LOL ::jawdrop::

you know what thats true, i remember only part of the "elan philosophy" that got read in morning meeting every morning or should i say "chanted" :question: "with eagerness of spirit we shall find ourselves through knowing others" i wish i could remember the rest, but maybe its better i dont. its all crap anyway.