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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: aftenthurston on November 14, 2005, 10:37:00 AM
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There are both good and bad things, however i tend to focus on the good. the positive definently outnumbered the negitive, and that is the point i stand stong to.
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aften dear,
by all means, stand strong by your opinions of YOUR experience. you'd get a lot less flack from others if you'd stick to "I" statements. speak directly of your experience and perception.
Ex: that never happened to me; i didn't witness that; that happened but i didn't think it was that bad. get the idea?
when you make blanket statements, others feel you are minimizing their apparently less-than-positive experience. and that, you have no right to do. it's rude and offensive.
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HOLY SHIT
tony volrath!
yo hit me the fuck up
its dan katz
pg 26.
AIM CephalicNasum
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On 2005-11-14 07:37:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"There are both good and bad things, however i tend to focus on the good. the positive definently outnumbered the negitive, and that is the point i stand stong to."
Tony is right on the money. You may have had a positive experience, but that in no way negates the things that happened to other people. Recall you claimed you had some lesbians looking out for you, that may have changed your situation. So while you might be able to say the positive definitly outnumbered the negative, that is not the case for everyone.
Nor does it entitle you to make assumptions and generalizations about hundreds of other kids whom youve never met and know nothing about.
Your opinions and your experiences are yours to comment on.
Dont try and insist things about other people based on your experiences, you dont know what happened to them there and you dont know why.
Get over yourself.
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You're telling me to get over myself, and not to make generalizations, however that is exactly what you re doing... seems rather hypocritical, eh?
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What generalizations or assumptions have I made. List them off please.
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Every other negitive statement that you ahve made is either a generalization or assumption... i'm not going to waste more of my time giving you the mere pleasure of doing what you ask... why would i want to rummage through each and every board to find where you have proved yourself as a hypocrite?
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On 2005-11-14 09:54:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"Every other negitive statement that you ahve made is either a generalization or assumption... i'm not going to waste more of my time giving you the mere pleasure of doing what you ask... why would i want to rummage through each and every board to find where you have proved yourself as a hypocrite?
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So you make a claim, yet you cant provide a single example?
I see....
The negative statements I have made concerning HLA are based on facts.
I have not made any assumptions, nor have I ever spoken about people I dont know.
Unlike you on the other hand.
Should we compare my assumptions with yours.
Whos going to have made more?
You I think.
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and what point does that prove?
none
just trying to prove the same one that you reiterated time and time again.
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Youre the one who claimed Ive made assumptions and generalizations.
You cant however back up this claim.
I can against you.
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Jesus, Mary and Joseph! YOu have made false claims, and generalizations... such as everyone being abused and such... are you just oblivious to your own remarks?
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Dan! AIM is screwed up on my computer but I'll reinstall it later and see if your on. Hope all is well... there are sure some crazy posts on this board.
Tony
AIM is surfing30504
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On 2005-11-14 10:52:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"Jesus, Mary and Joseph! YOu have made false claims, and generalizations... such as everyone being abused and such... are you just oblivious to your own remarks?"
Please post the quote in which I stated every student at HLA was abused.
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yeah im great tony
id love to catch up
you always were the shit at Hidden Lake, absolutely my favorite AC.
dan pg 26.
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Im sorry Aften were you not going to be able to do that ever?
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Homosexuality USED to be in the DSM II as a diagnosed disorder, i assume that when HLA opened up they used that as part of a criteria on their application for enrollment...as of about 2 years ago they took it off their applications...below is the quote from The A.P.A. Normalization of Homosexuality, and the Research Study of Irving Bieber:
The factors that determined the decision of the APA to delete homosexuality from DSM-II were summarized as follows:
Gay activists had a profound influence on psychiatric thinking.
A sincere belief was held by liberal-minded and compassionate psychiatrists that listing homosexuality as a psychiatric disorder supported and reinforced prejudice against homosexuals. Removal of the term from the diagnostic manual was viewed as a humane, progressive act.
There was an acceptance of new criteria to define psychiatric conditions. Only those disorders that caused a patient to suffer or that resulted in adjustment problems were thought to be appropriate for inclusion in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual.
Just to clear up the whole homosexuality as not a dx disorder...
thanks
a staff member...but don't as me to answer any of your questions like you like to bombard other staff with...not my place to answer them and most of the questions you ask i wouldnt have a clue about :wave:
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Isnt it the DSM IV the current edition?
So are you claiming that HLA no longer accepts students for simply being homosexual?
Also isnt there still the problem of for years claiming they treat it as a disorder, yet the owner and large number of staff members were themselves gay?
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In my time there in the early days is wasn't treated as a disorder in terms of something being wrong with the person as much as it was acknowledging the fact that some students struggle with this issue. We never disuaded someone from being homosexual, we just tried to help them figure out their identity and helped them be comfortable with who they are. There was never any preaching to students to be one way or the other. It was all about helping them be who they are. It was listed as something that we treated because it is a legitimate issue for so many teens who are struggling with whether or not they are homosexual. To not address it would be irresponsible.
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On 2005-12-02 14:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"In my time there in the early days is wasn't treated as a disorder in terms of something being wrong with the person as much as it was acknowledging the fact that some students struggle with this issue. We never disuaded someone from being homosexual, we just tried to help them figure out their identity and helped them be comfortable with who they are. There was never any preaching to students to be one way or the other. It was all about helping them be who they are. It was listed as something that we treated because it is a legitimate issue for so many teens who are struggling with whether or not they are homosexual. To not address it would be irresponsible.
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And of course HLA would never do anything irrespondsible. What of the practice of 1. Trying to force gay kids out of the closet before they may have been ready or 2. Claiming any student who had a problem with homosexuality was themselves gay. Are these respondsible practices still in place?
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students were not accepted into HLA merely for being homosexual... they, at one point, claimed to treat it, but there is no "treatment" for it, seeing as though it is not a disorder...
aften
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On 2005-12-10 20:07:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"students were not accepted into HLA merely for being homosexual... they, at one point, claimed to treat it, but there is no "treatment" for it, seeing as though it is not a disorder...
aften"
So then again why did they claim to treat it, and how do they rationalize both the owner and a large portion of the staff being themselves gay.
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less than 15% of the staff are gay. I wouldn't call that a "large majority".
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On 2005-12-11 16:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"less than 15% of the staff are gay. I wouldn't call that a "large majority"."
Please cite where you are getting your numbers from. Also are you taking into acount the entire history of the school?
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You cite where you get your "large" number of gay staff with facts, instead of guessing. I for a fact know that a large majority of staff are married. So therefore, they cannot also be gay can they.
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***students were not accepted into HLA merely for being homosexual... they, at one point, claimed to treat it, but there is no "treatment" for it, seeing as though it is not a disorder...
aften
It sounds like i have had a "good" time since HLA, but seriously i still am gay so they did not do shit for me, which is why my mom sent me there. she wanted me to be cured of "the gay". ummm... righhhhttttt... anyway i guess all i can say is that, whatever doesn't kill you, in fact does, make you stronger.
http://tinyurl.com/ygrr6b (http://tinyurl.com/ygrr6b)
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On 2005-12-12 03:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You cite where you get your "large" number of gay staff with facts, instead of guessing. I for a fact know that a large majority of staff are married. So therefore, they cannot also be gay can they."
From the fact that there were several openly gay staff members when I was there, along with the testimony of many other students spanning almost the entire operation of the school stating that there were always a good number of openly gay employees.
Your turn.
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they were not a large number; rather a select few... you are sooooo wrong in this case. Plus, the fact that a staff member's sexual oreientation has nothing to with their credentials nor the way they function on campus, with their job... if they are an openly gay staff member, then it's just that they are comfortable with who they are, and are not willing to hide it...
there was a "large number" of heterosexual staff members, were there not? do you think that the married staff memebers should have pretended that their family did not exist?
DIVERSITY dear boy, diversity... that's all it was.
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and the train has been derailed yet again.
it's neither here nor there, regarding the exact number of staff who were gay. whether there were two or fifty.....let's not lose sight of the primary issue:
"....why did they claim to treat it, and how do they rationalize both the owner and [some] of the staff being themselves gay.
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Thankyou for saving me the trouble of reminding aften to stay on task.
Aften honey when youre done nailing yourself to the cross come down and discuss the actual issue.
The school employs a large percentage of openly gay staff members, has a gay owner and yet claims to treat homosexuality.
Rationalize this for me.
Also Im still waiting for you to cite your source for 15%.
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We are still waiting for you to cite your source for your statement that a large number of staff are gay. Where is your proof of this?
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I already offered as much. My own experiences having known a number of openly gay staff members during my time there, as well as the testimony of others spanning almost the entire history of the school.
There has always been a number of openly gay staff members. If you add them all up it makes for a large number.
Now again your turn.
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Which ones were gay Robert? I want their names as proof
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Hmmmmmmm lets see if I cant offer a few up from different times that would work.
Whatshis name the director of Education. Real tall skinny guy.
Amy-I believe she was an intake counsoler.
Shelly-one of the peer group counsolers.
The black science teacher.
Cant forget the Buch.
Is five enough? I didnt have time to ask more people.
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Hmmm lets see....5 out of....how many employees over a 12 yr period??? Yea, thats a majority for sure
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According to their website staff list, and who I know who still works there from when I was there also, only 3 are gay. The ones I know from back then or from other ways are:
Dr. B
Bill Gray
Amanda Gray
Jim Baker
Cheryl Ballow
Denny Beatty
Kristin Bell
Kees De Vente
Kathy Duff
Pam Garrett
Jeff Holloway (I think)
John McMillan
Lee Parham
Corky Prow
Richard Prow
David Reifenberger
Tina Roper
Bert Sanford
Gary Sorensen
And some others look familiar and might have been there shortly before I left as well.
As far as the ones who have left that I knew, only 2 of those were gay. Some of those names of people I knew fairly well or were at least acquainted with while I was there that are gone now were Rusty and Angie Ray, Mike and Pam Witherspoon, Greg and Julie Lindsey, John and Mary Ann Semley, Arnold Zilberkant, Cheryl (I think she is at Ridge Creek now), Robert in Maintenance, Meredith Burns, Kristin Illis, Steve *****, Patrick Reich(he was a high school classmate of mine), Lonnie in Maintenance (good friend of my father in law, died of cancer)from Ridge Creek, the former headmaster that used to be over Camp Frank Merrill, Tony Garcia, etc etc. Those are all I can recall right now. So...of all those people Ive known over the years I can only recall...5 total that were gay.
Once again, hardly a "majority".
[Admin note: Steve's last name dedacted w/ permission of the poster.]
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The five I listed are simply off the top of my head there are many others and you know this.
The point still remains though how is HLA claims to treat homosexuality yet a large number (or any number) of the employees are themselves gay.
Namley the owner.
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Once again Robert, they dont "claim to treat homosexuality" as a disorder to be fixed. They treat it as an issue that should be discussed within the realm of accepting who you are and dealing with coming out issues and guilt and other things having to do with all that. It might have listed that somewhere as a topic to be dealt with therapeutically but thats not the same thing as fixing it.
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On 2005-12-13 00:58:00, SHH wrote:
"Once again Robert, they dont "claim to treat homosexuality" as a disorder to be fixed. They treat it as an issue that should be discussed within the realm of accepting who you are and dealing with coming out issues and guilt and other things having to do with all that. It might have listed that somewhere as a topic to be dealt with therapeutically but thats not the same thing as fixing it. "
Oh but they did didnt they? Further you have failed to address the fact that they often tried to make children believe they were gay even if they were not or force the ones who were gay out of the closet before they were ready. Also here we have an example of a student who was sent there to be cured of gayness.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 1&start=80 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?Sort=&mode=viewtopic&topic=12565&forum=41&start=80)
If HLA doesnt treat homosexuality why would they accept him?
Also again since they did claim to treat it how do they rationalize it with a gay owner and many many gay employees?
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Posted by a physician in another thread...
"My experience with Hidden Lake Academy was also distressing.
In my opinion, and the opinions of the six other physicians in my practice who followed my HLA misadventure with me, HLA is a predator whose prey is the horrified parents of disturbed teens. It is an institution of opportunity, bringing home its bottom line at the expense of the desperate, frazzled families it exploits.
By the time most parents are introduced to HLA, they've already been through a costly and demoralizing gauntlet of police stations, court appearances, counselor visits, psychiatric evaluations...even hospital visits.
To say they are desperate is an understatement. They are trying to keep their families from self-destructing. In most cases, the only option is turning the child out onto the streets: most insurance policies won't cover mental health care, and even if a family is lucky enough to have good coverage, it is limited to short, individual events. Deeply needed inpatient care is rarely an option for most of these families.
So even considering a modality such as a therapeutic boarding school is a true extravagance. Actually sending the student may mean mortgaging a home, selling it, or even bancruptcy.
Enter Hidden Lake and its ilk.
I was asked by the parents of a young teen to evaluate HLA by its Web site. What stood out to me even more than the philosophy that medical therapy was discouraged were the many typographical errors and careless mistakes on nearly every page of the site. While my own writing is not perfect, I am not registered as a boarding school, responsible for the education of children, presumably overflowing with teachers more than capable of proofreading the very materials provided to the public for the purpose of attracting business.
When I brought my concerns to the attention to the school, they were received with, well, less than warm gratitude. My comments to HLA were meant to be constructive. I was gracious and self-effacing in my original letter because the last thing I wanted was to offend the school. Clearly such niceties were a waste of effort.
Given that the parents are expected to pay upwards of seven thousand dollars per month for the privilege of sending their child to a therapeutic boarding school, I actually expected a minimum of civility. None was evident.
My credentials were questioned?this from an institution whose methods are questionable, at best, from a medical (and psychiatric, I might add) point of view.
Fast forward a few months...and imagine how surprised I was to come across the story of the parent in the previous posts. Am I shocked HLA will not send the child's transcripts? Nope. They demonstrated their pettiness, immaturity, and curious vindictiveness to me, a peer and potential referral base a long time ago. Was I surprised that personal belongings, including necessary daily medications, were sent COD?by ground? Actually, yes.
Not only did that shock me, it caused me to pick up the phone and discuss this gross mismanagement of a patient's medications with a malpractice attorney, who recommends HLA check to be sure their insurance premiums are paid.
To the parent: my suggestion is that you alert your attorney to your experience. Gather all proof of your allegations, including the boxes the personal effects were sent in, the COD receipt(s), the condition of any damaged items, a list of missing items, if any, and proof of payments made to HLA. Regardless of any contract signed (as a previous Anonymous poster cryptically stated), a minimum level of responsibility to the patient's health is required by ANY institution. That minimum includes making reasonable arrangements for the patient to have access to their medications. COD shipping by ground is not, by any standard, "reasonable."
So guess what, parent? You may be getting a sizeable percentage of the "investment" HLA coerced you to pay them right back into your pocket.
I'll be cheering for you from this sideline."
UNBIASED OUTSIDE OPINION BY MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL SAYS HLA IS "PREDATOR" VICTIMIZING PARENTS AND CHILDREN. WAKE UP, PEOPLE. :skull:
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On 2005-11-13 14:46:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"think what you wish... i'll know what i know...you can believe that Dr. Len sent me on here to "breach" your comments, but it doesn't affect how i see things. HLA does good for many people, whether or not they realize it... I for one, look up to Dr. Len, and think that he is only giving desperate parents an alternitive."
You went there!!!! Did you going to HLA cause you to start smoking crack!?!?!?!? Why the hell else would you make such an ignorant and stupid comment>?
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On 2005-12-01 19:18:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Homosexuality USED to be in the DSM II as a diagnosed disorder, i assume that when HLA opened up they used that as part of a criteria on their application for enrollment...as of about 2 years ago they took it off their applications...below is the quote from The A.P.A. Normalization of Homosexuality, and the Research Study of Irving Bieber:
The factors that determined the decision of the APA to delete homosexuality from DSM-II were summarized as follows:
Gay activists had a profound influence on psychiatric thinking.
A sincere belief was held by liberal-minded and compassionate psychiatrists that listing homosexuality as a psychiatric disorder supported and reinforced prejudice against homosexuals. Removal of the term from the diagnostic manual was viewed as a humane, progressive act.
There was an acceptance of new criteria to define psychiatric conditions. Only those disorders that caused a patient to suffer or that resulted in adjustment problems were thought to be appropriate for inclusion in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual.
Just to clear up the whole homosexuality as not a dx disorder...
thanks
a staff member...but don't as me to answer any of your questions like you like to bombard other staff with...not my place to answer them and most of the questions you ask i wouldnt have a clue about :wave: "
Well, once again, you're assuming. I've seen the most current admissions applications to both Hidden Lake and Ridge Creek (who both are on the DSM IV now) and homosexuality is still listed as a disorder on page 3 (I think) of the application. Try again.
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I just looked at both applications for Ridge Creek and for Hidden Lake and neither one state anything about homosexuality.
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On 2005-12-17 08:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I just looked at both applications for Ridge Creek and for Hidden Lake and neither one state anything about homosexuality."
Can you post a link or the whole document(s)? Thanks.
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Go to their websites to view or download both documents.
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Robert Bruce- you really shouldn't get on here and pretend to be a doctor.
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On 2005-12-17 08:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I just looked at both applications for Ridge Creek and for Hidden Lake and neither one state anything about homosexuality."
NEW HLA Admission Application
Once again, Buccellato's hacking team had to go in there and prove us wrong. My ex-roommate (he got pulled 3 weeks before I did) had been distributed Arnold Zilberkant's old computer, which contained about 120 different Word Documents from the school/company (admission applications, withdrawal forms, letters to parents, etc.) not to mention demonstration PowerPoints for the school and Ridge Creek. There were copies of the HLA and RCI applications on there and it was listed right between Grief/Loss and Learning Disabilites.
What happened Buch? We caught you so you had to go in and change it around? Maybe the other people don't know but you ain't fooled me, and never will. Try again. Gimme your best shot.
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Not to mention the fact, just to prove my cause, it used to be that neither applications were available on the website -- you had to have an appointment for a visit with the Admissions office or get one mailed or faxed to you. I wonder why they couldn't have posted one about 4 months ago, before they re-did the website, with all that money and all their resources, I find it hard to believe they couldn't have posted an application then, but now they're gettin so much shit for it that they took it off and posted it on the internet to make them look safe and make people think their asses are covered.
Like I said, you still ain't got me fooled. I've seen the one that had it, and you'll never be able to change that.
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Previous achievements by his hacking team: Spamming the AmazingForums board (the, now late, other Anti-HLA message board), if you haven't seen it lately, notice how all the topics are now replaced with porn/xxx. This was the board that Marla posted on that the lawsuit was over. Well, hey, if we can't do it legitimately, than just get it done...however we can...
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HLA did not spam the amazing forums board. This same thing happened to 2 different message boards that I belong to. Those spam bots are random and hit quite a few message boards.
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I don't know, and question how you might know that. Did you inquire with AF and identify the ISP that posted all that porn, pushing every other thread off the board?
At best, it's very curious that the Spambot hit when s/he did.
If you're going to make such declarations of defense, you might attach a name so others know if you are the Spambot or an authentic spokesperson for HLA, with proof that no one associated with the program did the dirty deed.
With what authority do you speak?
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Who is the he/she person you reference?
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Of course HLA had no reason to see those boards spammed. To bad they cant do it here.
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The posts on that board were there for months before the Amazing Forums board got spammed. In fact, the board was relatively quiet when the spam monster got ahold of it. I seriously doubt it had anything to do with who was posting and what the topic was.
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Speculation.
Compare the dates the spamming commenced with what what being posted around that time. I won't do the leg work for you.
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I see, so the board shifts to an almost exclusive discussion of HLA and coincidentally a spam bot shows up to clear it all out.
Like I said Im sure youre upset you cant do that here.
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That is false Bruce, get with it buddy ::bigmouth:: ::burger::
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HLA-Great place to live work and play!!
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On 2005-12-18 13:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"That is false Bruce, get with it buddy ::bigmouth:: ::burger:: "
Are you going to claim that there wasnt a predominatly HLA centered conversation list going on, on that board prior to the spamming.
Scroll down doofus, all the threads that you people wanted hidden are right there.
Open your eyes and forget about the party line for a moment.
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Posts about Hidden Lake Academy were on that board as far back as late 2004, and continued until the spam showed up, which wasn't until late this summer. If they had wanted to get rid of those posts by spamming they would have done it months before it happened. don't be so paranoid people
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So youre arguing that because it took them awhile it means it wasnt them?
Solid argument.
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On 2005-12-18 16:29:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"So youre arguing that because it took them awhile it means it wasnt them?
Solid argument. "
Kee ::rocker:: ::kiss:: p rockin Mr Bruce!!
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My point is that the amazing forums board was almost abandoned because most were coming here to post and it was viewed more on a regular basis, and when the spam stuff showed up hardly anybody was posting on it anymore. Why would they have bothered at that point?
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Intrestingly enough thats not true at all. The site was still very active, and several threads had filled up and had to be replaced because it was active.
Check the dates if theres to much confusion.
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On 2005-12-18 17:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
"My point is that the amazing forums board was almost abandoned because most were coming here to post and it was viewed more on a regular basis, and when the spam stuff showed up hardly anybody was posting on it anymore. Why would they have bothered at that point? "
Quality, not quantity. Sure, they weren't as busy as nice and secure Fornits is, but when AmazingForums had postings, they had the Marla McGhee's of the world goin up in there and speakin truth, and HLA couldn't have none of that --- it's bad for THEIR business.
Heaven forbid we really know what the fuck is going on out there in Georgia.
It makes too much sense for HLA to leave that board alone when they can spam the hell out of it. Jane Sad-parent can't see the piece of information that might have convinced her to withdraw her kid the next day. They don't care -- not only do they have less to worry about but if there is something to worry about, they can just call up Marty-Quirky and have his bitch ass deal with it. Since when do Georgia lawyers have jurisdiction over the Internet? Isn't this America I'm in?
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I love you RobertBruce!! :wave:
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Marla's post was in February of 2005. The board didnt get spammed until July or August
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On 2005-12-18 19:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Marla's post was in February of 2005. The board didnt get spammed until July or August"
Well, Mr. Anonymous, if you look at the legal documents concerning the posting, the signed order was sent from the Lumpkin County judge to the webmaster of Amazing Forums signed August 15th, 2005.
Right around the time it got spammed.
Got any more brain busters?
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Legal Document 2 (http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/HLA/Quirk02.jpg)
Two legal documents concerning the Marla McGhee case against AmazingForums and HLA. Call me a liar.
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If it was removed by court order they would have had no reason to spam the board. You have absolutely no proof the board was spammed by anybody affiliated by the school. Would have been unnecessary anyway since most people post on this one. Don't accuse without proof to back up your accusations. Got an IP number? Got a name from the forum owner? No? Well then shut up already about your guesses.
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On 2005-12-18 19:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If it was removed by court order they would have had no reason to spam the board. You have absolutely no proof the board was spammed by anybody affiliated by the school. Would have been unnecessary anyway since most people post on this one. Don't accuse without proof to back up your accusations. Got an IP number? Got a name from the forum owner? No? Well then shut up already about your guesses."
Fuck yea, thats what I like to hear, get this lil faggot!!!
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Yet more professionalism from the staff of HLA.
Is the Buch a faggot as well?
In any event, no one ever accused HLA staffers of being smart they tried multiple tactics in discrediting the anti HLA posters on that forum Marla included. Eventually you all got frustrated and just spammed it all out. Now youre upset you cant do the same thing here.
Hence your reaction.
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On 2005-12-18 19:39:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Yet more professionalism from the staff of HLA.
Is the Buch a faggot as well?
In any event, no one ever accused HLA staffers of being smart they tried multiple tactics in discrediting the anti HLA posters on that forum Marla included. Eventually you all got frustrated and just spammed it all out. Now youre upset you cant do the same thing here.
Hence your reaction. "
Shut up you little cry baby pussy :cry2:
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point set match.
You cant respond accept it.
You make this to easy.
Oh and whenever you want to back up your claim that I'm a cry baby you let me know sport. I'll be waiting right here for you son.
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On 2005-12-18 19:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If it was removed by court order they would have had no reason to spam the board. You have absolutely no proof the board was spammed by anybody affiliated by the school. Would have been unnecessary anyway since most people post on this one. Don't accuse without proof to back up your accusations. Got an IP number? Got a name from the forum owner? No? Well then shut up already about your guesses."
Put two and two together, you completely ignorant and stupid waste of space. Why are you getting so defensive? If there something that you know about here? Is there something we're touching on that MIGHT have some truth and your pooping your pants cause your caught? You might want to check that.
And, for the record, I don't guess. I know. I'm an IT technician and know common logic and how these HLA-types work -- shut the hell up.
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Come on Buccie-luch, this is the best your giving me? I would like *at least* a top-shelf troll, give me something nice for the holidays, you couldn't give me Christmas as an enrolled student this year, so give me something to work with here...
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Got a name from the forum owner?
Former? You know something we don't, anon?
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What are you refering to?
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West side stud, how bout you just shut the fuck up already..Your a dork and we hate you.."i was in 48 programs blah blah blah, Im in love with bruce and i love his little bird blah blah blah" You are a fag, as a previous post kindly stated-WESTsideSTUD is STRICTLY FOR THE TARDCORE :rofl: :lol:
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On 2005-12-21 14:13:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"What are you refering to?"
How wide your asshole is :wave:
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referring to:
Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 130#156447 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12565&forum=41&start=130#156447)
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On 2005-12-18 19:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If it was removed by court order they would have had no reason to spam the board. You have absolutely no proof the board was spammed by anybody affiliated by the school. Would have been unnecessary anyway since most people post on this one. Don't accuse without proof to back up your accusations. Got an IP number? Got a name from the forum owner? No? Well then shut up already about your guesses."
No one claimed to have a name. We did however trace the IP to the Dahlonega area. There really isnt much a question at this point, discussing it further only embarress you more.
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so there cant possibly be anybody else in Dahlonega who disagrees with you other than someone hired by dr. b? It could be anybody. It could be a former employee, a former student, it doesnt have to be someone currently at the school if you claim it came from dahlonega. Then again, there is the possibility, that youre making all this up.
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On 2005-12-21 14:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
"West side stud, how bout you just shut the fuck up already..Your a dork and we hate you.."i was in 48 programs blah blah blah, Im in love with bruce and i love his little bird blah blah blah" You are a fag, as a previous post kindly stated-WESTsideSTUD is STRICTLY FOR THE TARDCORE :rofl: :lol: "
We meaning the Anon's? I'm not trying to win your acceptance, or even remotely please you. To be completely honest, I really couldn't give two shits if you got ran over tomorrow. Just cause your boss canceled your paychecks cause your manipulation tactics aren't working doesn't mean I want you to be mad at me and others that speak truth -- be mad at your boss for being a fucking retarded self-incriminating idiot for running the operation he is. And what's tardcore? Write me back when you've completed more than United States 3rd grade elementary-school level classes, douche.
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This also coming from the one who's too much of a little-girl pussy to get a real user ID. You know what - I feel bad for you. I really do.
How horrible it must be that you live in North Georgia. If I was you, I'd be spitting out four-letter words and spelling things wrong too. Your surrounded by inbreds, ignorant trailer-trash, and out-of-towners who embezzel company funds and start false organizations.
May god help you...
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4 year degree from University of Miami, so suck a dick you fucking retard westsidestud...Stop "Hatin" :lol:
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On 2005-12-21 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"4 year degree from University of Miami, so suck a dick you fucking retard westsidestud...Stop "Hatin" :lol: "
That's cute. I'ma "hate" all I want, cause I'm an American and I can do that. Just cause your parents bribed the Admissions Directors to accept you didn't mean you earned your education at your "prestigious school".
Oh, and about the dick-sucking thing, go ask your boss about that...I'm sure he wouldn't mind helping you out with that...
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On 2005-12-21 16:32:00, WestSideStud2430 wrote:
"This also coming from the one who's too much of a little-girl pussy to get a real user ID. You know what - I feel bad for you. I really do.
How horrible it must be that you live in North Georgia. If I was you, I'd be spitting out four-letter words and spelling things wrong too. Your surrounded by inbreds, ignorant trailer-trash, and out-of-towners who embezzel company funds and start false organizations.
May god help you..."
Who really gives a FLYING FUCK about grammar on some stupid ass board westsidequuer? Its a fuckin gay board, not a semester final, get a grip, you geek
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*queer, sorry I must watch my spelling here :lol:
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Stud-muffin, please stop acting so tough, you are scaring me :scared: :scared: :scared: :rofl: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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On 2005-12-21 16:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-21 16:32:00, WestSideStud2430 wrote:
"This also coming from the one who's too much of a little-girl pussy to get a real user ID. You know what - I feel bad for you. I really do.
How horrible it must be that you live in North Georgia. If I was you, I'd be spitting out four-letter words and spelling things wrong too. Your surrounded by inbreds, ignorant trailer-trash, and out-of-towners who embezzel company funds and start false organizations.
May god help you..."
Who really gives a FLYING FUCK about grammar on some stupid ass board westsidequuer? Its a fuckin gay board, not a semester final, get a grip, you geek"
Speaking the truth has nothing to do with the fact that I love women, and believe me, I'm more than content with that.
Since when does telling people what really happens so they don't make horrible mistakes and waste a lot of money make me gay?
Is your IQ below 68?
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IQ is 136, so spare me your annoying, gay tactics..Now go clean your works like a good junkie...Fuckface!!!!
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On 2005-12-21 16:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"IQ is 136, so spare me your annoying, gay tactics..Now go clean your works like a good junkie...Fuckface!!!!"
You left out the decimal between 13 and 6. (In case your too stupid to figure out what that means...that's 13.6, for our "special" readers). If you have a 4-year deg. for Miami, then why are you wasting your time on these boards? Genius?
I don't know what you talkin about on the "junkie" thing, but I do know that where you come from is one of the largest crystal meth areas in the world... (Again, I'm talking about Dahlonega in case you can't comprehend English...I understand, your part of that small American percentage of illiterate trailer-trash.)
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You are great entertainment West Side Gay Boy...I think you'd look superb dangling from a ceiling :wave: :lol:
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On 2005-12-21 16:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You are great entertainment West Side Gay Boy...I think you'd look superb dangling from a ceiling :wave: :lol: "
Oh, he would look stunning!! Marvelous! He should give it a try!!!
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On 2005-12-21 16:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-21 16:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You are great entertainment West Side Gay Boy...I think you'd look superb dangling from a ceiling :wave: :lol: "
Oh, he would look stunning!! Marvelous! He should give it a try!!!"
So you're actually encouraging suicide? So this is what my counselors we're trying to tell us in the therapueutic terminology (that's what they teach at HLA...in case you didn't know)
Well, I think you look absolutely fine in Bumblefuck, Georgia, sippin juice and gin with Billy G., Lennie and Kennie every night while Charley Cates sips on his Southern Comfort with his athletic man. And until you hop on a plane to Dallas/Fort-Worth and hunt my ass down, your still a pussy who's crying for Lennie cause the big bad man of truth put you in your place.
I dare you -- come to Dallas and try to get me up there. I can bet you Len's next two Jaguars you wouldn't even be able to.
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This westside fuck is a COMPLETE RETARD. Like I'd ever even THINK about wasting my time and money to fly to gay fuck Texas to bash your fat fucking face in..Get real kid, go lick some hairy balls ya queer..Or book a flight to come see me in New Jersey, country boy!!! Hhahahah :lol:
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On 2005-12-21 17:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"This westside fuck is a COMPLETE RETARD. Like I'd ever even THINK about wasting my time and money to fly to gay fuck Texas to bash your fat fucking face in..Get real kid, go lick some hairy balls ya queer..Or book a flight to come see me in New Jersey, country boy!!! Hhahahah :lol: "
Just cause you have a Jersey attitude doesn't intimidate me. By the way, what an unfortunate part of the US to be from... wait, aren't you from the "armpit" state? I ain't scared of no fuckin' yankee. Have fun paying $8 for a pack of cigarettes in the Northeast, you fucking idiot.
It's WestSideStud, not WestSideFuck. Who's the retard now?
And if your not gonna "waste your time to fly to Texas to bash my fat fucking face in" then don't say you wanna hang me from a ceiling, cause you and I and everyone else reading this knows your too much of a little pussy to actually perform any of what you claim to do -- your just a fake looking for some attention and some acceptance.
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On 2005-12-21 16:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"IQ is 136, so spare me your annoying, gay tactics..Now go clean your works like a good junkie...Fuckface!!!!"
this is the same idiot poster from other threads. i think it's mr. pink aka mr. pinks attorney. he's a flamer and loves to flame too.
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I get mine for 2.25 a pack online , asshole, and you do know that NJ has the highest income per capita in the USA? Go milk a cow ya fucking geek..And look, Im registered now!! wow, whats the big fuckin deal man :lol:
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Acting the way I do, you say Im looking for ACCEPTANCE!!?? What the fuck is wrong with you ?
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On 2005-12-21 17:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-21 16:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"IQ is 136, so spare me your annoying, gay tactics..Now go clean your works like a good junkie...Fuckface!!!!"
this is the same idiot poster from other threads. i think it's mr. pink aka mr. pinks attorney. he's a flamer and loves to flame too."
I can't confirm the flaming shit, but there could be truth to that. I wouldn't be suprised if it was an attorney... in that case, why don't you fly to Texas and threaten me with your gavel, big man?
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On 2005-12-21 17:15:00, WestSideIsAfag wrote:
"Acting the way I do, you say Im looking for ACCEPTANCE!!?? What the fuck is wrong with you ? "
Ouch. You made a user ID bashing my name.
God, that's deep. This just goes to show that everything I tell you really gets to you.
Yes, hardcore man, I'm talking about that dreaded W word...w-w-w-Weakness!
You have a weakness. I (and others) caught you and your boss and his organization in lies -- false advertisement, among other things. When I catch you on it, you turn around and get pissed off and it becomes very serious to you -- serious to the point that you take time out of your day to make a user name dedicated to bashing me. You'll never admit it, but I get to you. I piss you off. I've caught you in a lie and Bucchie will never pay you again. Looks like you'll have to hit the road and stick your thumb out, cause Buchie ain't paying for your ass anymore. He won't be able to afford hookers pretty soon.
I get to you. I piss you off. :flame: That's what your like after you read a posting like this. Everybody watch as Mr. WestSideIsAFag flips his shit because he realizes that he's being held accountable.
Let's point our fingers and laugh now...
By the way... what are your thoughts on the Medical Professional's postings?
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Drugs are bad, mkaaaay...
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On 2005-12-21 17:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I must agree, WestSideStud is extremely annoying and immature..I certainly hope he dies too"
It's funny. Your both Anonymous. Stuck in the cloak. Stuck in the closet. How freaking cute.
Fun and fast-paced? I live in Downtown Dallas (that's the city, in case you can't read, from what I hear the educational systems in the Northeast [that includes New Jersey] aren't what the average person would call "top-notch".
Ouch. You hope I die. I'm crying. :wave: Hahahaha still not getting to me bucchiiee!!
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On 2005-12-21 17:24:00, WestSideIsAfag wrote:
"Hey Westside, come here and give me a blowjob, would ya... :lol: "
Go ask Buch...once your done in his lap. It's only nice and right to return the favor.
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NJ has the highest rate of graduation in the entire COUNTRY moron...Your a fat ass arent you..I cam just picture your fat ugly ass typing away.. :lol: :lol:
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On 2005-12-21 17:28:00, WestSideIsAfag wrote:
"NJ has the highest rate of graduation in the entire COUNTRY moron...Your a fat ass arent you..I cam just picture your fat ugly ass typing away.. :lol: :lol: "
Graduation rate from HLA? Ouch, I used to be fat... please stop sir, your pushing my issues, I'm crying ... he's telling me things I've never heard in my life before... I only weigh 155 you yankee, in case you didn't know...
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Fuckin right Im a yankee, ya goddamn redneck fucking hillbilly..155 LBS, Id fuckin snap you in half like a twig, you little bitch
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From http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_baeo.htm (http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_baeo.htm)
Georgia had the lowest overall graduation rate in the nation with 54% of students graduating, followed by Nevada, Florida, and Washington, D.C.
Wow...New Jersey isn't even listed on there...
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Proved you wrong again! Wait? You don't even have to post it? Kill myself? I'm fat? I'm gay?
I've got you all figured out, troll...
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So you still accusing staff of embezzling huh George? Thats funny you said you were just mad and making it up the last time you were confronted by one of the staff who you accused. You said you were just angry. Be careful accusing innocent people of things they havent done.
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On 2005-12-21 15:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
"so there cant possibly be anybody else in Dahlonega who disagrees with you other than someone hired by dr. b? It could be anybody. It could be a former employee, a former student, it doesnt have to be someone currently at the school if you claim it came from dahlonega. Then again, there is the possibility, that youre making all this up."
Oh but Im not. Yes there is the possibility but tell me which makes more sense. That some random fan of HLA with no vested interest in it who happens to live in Dahlonega spams it or Buch has an employee do it because hes tired off all that truth telling going on and is concerned about losing business because of us?
You tell me which one makes more sense??
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On 2005-12-21 17:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So you still accusing staff of embezzling huh George? Thats funny you said you were just mad and making it up the last time you were confronted by one of the staff who you accused. You said you were just angry. Be careful accusing innocent people of things they havent done. "
Thank you Bill for contacting me directly. You could have just asked me for my cell phone number. That was a nice little white lie to shut your fat ass up. And it worked. And look where I am now. You should be careful of who's transcripts you like to hold on to. I know what I said. And I know why I said what I said. And it worked.
To answer your main question, yes I am accusing staff of embezzling company funds. Since your so professional and mature and all...
Talk to you later Bill! Tell the whole TherapySquadClique I still hate them!
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On 2005-12-21 18:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The random HLA fan thing makes more sense..."
Yes I agree, and someone please shut that west side whatever the fuck to SHUT THE FUCK UP, hes a babbling idiot cry baby
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George is annoying, lets get rid of him the old-fashioned way
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Or is that Joe? Nicole? A teacher? A counselor? Bill White? Well, anyways, I'd like to congratulate you. You've done an awesome, clean, bang-up job, your bosses should be proud. Congratulations on your maturity as well, to hop on a message board, lie, cheat, and steal, just like you were taught. This toast is for you.
Whoever, this anonymous person is, quit hiding behind a computer screen. Private message me a phone number. You all are poons.
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Anonymous
Unregistered User Posted: 2005-12-21 19:21:00
On 2005-12-21 18:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The random HLA fan thing makes more sense..."
Yes I agree, and someone please shut that west side whatever the fuck to SHUT THE FUCK UP, hes a babbling idiot cry baby
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Anonymous
Unregistered User Posted: 2005-12-21 19:23:00
George is annoying, lets get rid of him the old-fashioned way
Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 180#157577 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12565&forum=41&start=180#157577)
Old-fashioned way? Should I be scared? Ok, I'll call my lawyer... I'm curious. Whoever wants to enlighten me, here's my email address [email protected]
Come on out, pussies!
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George , you are a pussy, go get laid or something....
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On 2005-12-21 19:23:00, WestSideStud2430 wrote:
"Or is that Joe? Nicole? A teacher? A counselor? Bill White? Well, anyways, I'd like to congratulate you. You've done an awesome, clean, bang-up job, your bosses should be proud. Congratulations on your maturity as well, to hop on a message board, lie, cheat, and steal, just like you were taught. This toast is for you.
Whoever, this anonymous person is, quit hiding behind a computer screen. Private message me a phone number. You all are poons."
Here's a toast.
To Joe: You've succeeded in being a grade-A asshole. I appreciated you calling my dad the 28th at work during a business meeting just to make him feel even more confident about his decision. You suck at your job. I do feel bad for your daughter and am sorry, but you taking it out on me and the other members of peer group 71 and 72 was fucked up. (That's something that's not correct...)
To Nicole: Well, you just pissed me off. You don't, and still don't, know one thing about me except what you read about me on my intake report. You made a lot of bad calls and can't manage your stress and you take it out on us, and then run around and act like a snitch -- not just to us, but to staff as well. Don't think I don't have connections.
To Bill White: Well, your horrible. You like to instigate students to get reactions out of them, and then turn around once you've pissed them off and get them in trouble. And you make assumptions. And your very ignorant. And you also claim to know things for sure when you don't know anything. By the way, I'm still waiting for you to ship me my Chevy hat I never got back, or you owe me $30.
To Charles Cates: Well, your just a monkey. You ran around and made me sound real good when my parents were interested in HLA, but when yall started losing the upper hand you dropped me and screwed me over. By the way, your comments you made to my dad were quite cute, don't think I didn't hear them, you are recorded and were on full-duplex speakerphone. It's funny how you'll turn around and talk about how much I haven't changed (to my Dad) just so I wouldn't get withdrawn only to be furthered with post-grad for a year. And don't think I won't get my transcript.
To Bill Gray: Well, your just trash. I know why your crying: You don't get to collect all $111,107 that was guaranteed on the tuition contract. HAHAHHAHAHA. I don't understand your ex-wife, and why she still rides your leg, but I know your late-night-creepin, or whatever you do in Dahlonega besides cousins. I think it's also cute how weak-minded you are that when I said you were embezzeling how easy it was to talk myself out of it and how you were so gullible, and how the day after you called my Mom and told her how nice of a kid I am. Back-stabbing. Your such a worm. And don't think I didn't hear what you said and didn't know that you had my dad waiting 45 minutes beside his office fax machine waiting for the withdrawal paperwork. You like how fast he sent it back to you? I know your dirty little secret, have fun in hell.
To Len Buccellato: Your even worse than trash. I think your vomit. Your gay yourself and then you turn around in the early to recent days of HLA and RCI and put down Homosexuality down as a behavior requiring intervention with HLA or RCI, then when it gets rubbed in your face you re-do the application and post it on the internet to make yourself look clean. You don't have me fooled, I've seen the copy before, you should check the security on your network...
Too bad no matter how much you tried to make me look bad, my parents knew it was all a joke to begin with. They were just waiting for my probation to be cleared up. I've changed a lot, and you were willing to make me look bad and cloak and hide ALL the progress i've made in my seven programs just so you could keep my parent's account. You are absolute trash and I hope you all rot in hell.
SINCERELY
George Dean-Michael Chongris
HLA Veteran 10/15/04 ~ 11/16/05
[email protected]
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On 2005-12-21 19:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"George , you are a pussy, go get laid or something...."
At least I'm not a pussy that hides in a cloak of Anonymity cause I'm not sure of my job security. Go find your cousin...she's waiting...
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On 2005-12-21 19:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hey Boy George, how small is your little bird? :lol: "
Why are you so obsessed with young boy's birds? First you threaten my life and tell me your gonna hang me, then you sexually harass me? What is it with these North Georgia schools? Do you have any associations with Michael Jackson that no one knows about?
But I won't drop to your level. I'll actually respond with an ANSWER to the question at hand, not just deflect it. It's about as big as your brain is, and judging by your comments, I don't expect much.
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You could not be more wrong about accusing Mr. Gray of embezzling. You also could not be more wrong about his personal life. He is not from North Georgia, so therefore he cannot be doing cousins in town as you stated in your earlier post. He is a married man and does not go into town late at night to do anything immoral. The man has worked for Hidden Lake Academy for almost 12 years. If he had been embezzling he wouldn't have been working there all those years and be trusted as much as he is. He grew up in a big city in another state, so he is not a local inbred hick as you like to consider all people in Dahlonega. He is involved in the Chamber of Commerce, the local library association, the Rotary Club, and several other associations in town. He is a member of a church. He has 4 children. If you have a low opinion of him over other issues then so be it. But to accuse him of embezzling just because you are mad over the other issues is wrong and not true. Stick to the things you know are true, and leave the bullshit out.
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On 2005-12-22 04:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You could not be more wrong about accusing Mr. Gray of embezzling. You also could not be more wrong about his personal life. He is not from North Georgia, so therefore he cannot be doing cousins in town as you stated in your earlier post. He is a married man and does not go into town late at night to do anything immoral. The man has worked for Hidden Lake Academy for almost 12 years. If he had been embezzling he wouldn't have been working there all those years and be trusted as much as he is. He grew up in a big city in another state, so he is not a local inbred hick as you like to consider all people in Dahlonega. He is involved in the Chamber of Commerce, the local library association, the Rotary Club, and several other associations in town. He is a member of a church. He has 4 children. If you have a low opinion of him over other issues then so be it. But to accuse him of embezzling just because you are mad over the other issues is wrong and not true. Stick to the things you know are true, and leave the bullshit out."
Thank you for the comments, Ms. Gray (or Dan)
If your batting for the Buchie team, why do you still post Anonymous? What do you have to lose?
This isn't a perfect and legal world. As yall know. Many people don't like George Bush. But he's the president. So just because Bill's in all these organizations doesn't make him an awesome and good person.
There's no way in hell a "Director Of Operations" at a school like HLA has enough money to afford an '02 Chevy Tahoe, an '05 4-door V8 Nissan Titan, a Mercedes AND a 05 Honda Civic, not to mention the ATVs and other goodies he owns. No way in hell. Not with out any funny business.
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EXCUSE ME but the Tahoe is a 2001, bought almost 5 years ago, has over 150,00 miles on it, the Honda is a 2001, bought for a gas saving vehicle, the mercedes is old, and the titan is the only NEW vehicle. The ATVs were bought as christmas presents for the kids and the motorcycle was saved for. Got any more illusions you want me to crush George? Get your damn facts straight first.
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And..........his wife works too. And......there is no mortgage payment.....and......they have no daycare expense.......and.......need I go on?
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On 2005-12-22 07:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"EXCUSE ME but the Tahoe is a 2001, bought almost 5 years ago, has over 150,00 miles on it, the Honda is a 2001, bought for a gas saving vehicle, the mercedes is old, and the titan is the only NEW vehicle. The ATVs were bought as christmas presents for the kids and the motorcycle was saved for. Got any more illusions you want me to crush George? Get your damn facts straight first."
You are not excused. Now shut up until you are given permission to speak or you will be on restrictions.
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The TRUTH should be told, not the BULLSHIT being posted by George. Nobody can tell ANYBODY to shut up on this board. I will post what I want, when I want, got it?
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On 2005-12-22 07:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"EXCUSE ME but the Tahoe is a 2001, bought almost 5 years ago, has over 150,00 miles on it, the Honda is a 2001, bought for a gas saving vehicle, the mercedes is old, and the titan is the only NEW vehicle. The ATVs were bought as christmas presents for the kids and the motorcycle was saved for. Got any more illusions you want me to crush George? Get your damn facts straight first."
HAHAHAHHAHA the Honda is indeed new, I saw the new dealer license plates -- there were NO current license plates on them. If there were old, the previous owner's plates would be on them. There were John Megel Chevrolet plates w/the date that your new plates would be printed. Brand new vehicle registration. Try me asswipe. The Titan and the Honda are. The only reason your admitting to the Titan is because it's a new model car and there's no way you can say it's used or old because they just started making them just about a year and a half ago.
I don't give a rats ass about how many miles is on it. That doesn't mean shit, it's 140-150 miles round trip to Downtown Atlanta from Dahlonega, what's to say you don't visit Bucchie all the time? My mom used to live in Plano and work in Downtown Dallas, thats a 60 mile roundtrip drive, miles started accumulating way fast on her BMW.
ATVs were bought as Christmas presents for the kids. Your ignorant, fat, stupid and self-incriminating. If they were bought as gifts for the kids, SOMEONE had to buy them, and I think that someone was you.
And just cause the Mercedes is old doesn't make it free. My grandfather imports classic Merdeces from Europe. It's not as cheap as you make it sound. How bout you grow some more balls and make a user ID Bill, and when you do that, private-message me your phone number and we can get to some real talkin, if you feel up to the challenge.
Oh, and your Tahoe Plate is 991-ZUC from Lumpkin County. I have photographic memory, asswipe, believe me, I've seen more than you think, and your Titan is BC516P and your Honda is APB-7016 if I remember right. Try me, if I've seen it, I can remember every detail about it. Give me your best shot asswipe, embezzel this.
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On 2005-12-22 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The TRUTH should be told, not the BULLSHIT being posted by George. Nobody can tell ANYBODY to shut up on this board. I will post what I want, when I want, got it? "
I said shut up. Now get to shutting your blowhole. :wave:
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Whatever punk. You don't scare me. Go pick on someone else.
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On 2005-12-22 09:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Whatever punk. You don't scare me. Go pick on someone else."
You don't follow directions very well, do you? You were told to shutup. Now shut your pie-hole, you little pantywaist. :lol:
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The troll for hire is confused, he's attacking the side he's paid to defend. Good job short bus.
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On 2005-12-22 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The TRUTH should be told, not the BULLSHIT being posted by George. Nobody can tell ANYBODY to shut up on this board. I will post what I want, when I want, got it? "
Your right. Nobody can tell anyone to shut up.
But I sure as all hell hold the power to tell you the shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up. What are you gonna do?
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An incident report is being written to his counselors and parents, don't worry about it, every detail will be exaggerated and worded to make him look bad.
So quick to post back, Billy? What's the matter? Caught in a trap of some old-fashioned truth?
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Billy is not the poster.
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Citizens and fellow viewers, witness the fall of HLA trolls and staff... as well as their number of enrollments...
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dream on Georgie boy.
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Wouldnt Georgie boy look handsome as a corpse?
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Ah, lovely. More meaningless dribble. Do you guys EVER actually ANSWER questions?
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Short Bus I had no idea you were a necrophile.
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On 2005-12-22 13:35:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Short Bus I had no idea you were a necrophile."
I hope you die a slow death, kind sir
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Wow youre really into that stuff huh? Always wanting corpses to have your way with? Sick. What would Granny think? Or.....oh my God thats why you live with her isnt it? So you can keep her around after she kicks off.
Sick sick sick.
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Im on your side Bruce, but your responses are lame and getting a little tired *yawn*
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Yes I bet you are. Whereas Short Bus is full of new ideas, and insight.
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On 2005-12-22 13:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Wouldnt Georgie boy look handsome as a corpse? "
Bring it, #9 brown-bag special. I'm waiting... to get back on the topic of the board.
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On 2005-12-22 07:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"And..........his wife works too. And......there is no mortgage payment.....and......they have no daycare expense.......and.......need I go on?"
Of course, even more money is coming in...she works in the HLA dental office, which was an overnight thing. I wonder if she actually has any training at all to work as a dentist...
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On 2005-12-22 18:56:00, WestSideStud2430 wrote:
I'm waiting... to get back on the topic of the board."
Not an easy feat with these people. They don't seem to be the brightest bulbs in the box.
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HAHAHAA!!!!! Westside changed his gay location to "down town" Dallas, what a geek, its still the same, you still fuck livestock, you blowjob giving queen!! :lol:
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On 2005-12-22 19:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"HAHAHAA!!!!! Westside changed his gay location to "down town" Dallas, what a geek, its still the same, you still fuck livestock, you blowjob giving queen!! :lol: "
Ouch. I'm crying. Come on staff, you gotta do better than that... I understand. Your a staff at HLA. All your trying to do is make me react so that way your boss's objective will be completed -- to divert the attention on the topics at hand of this board.
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On 2005-12-22 19:17:00, WestSideStud2430 wrote:
All your trying to do is make me react so that way your boss's objective will be completed -- to divert the attention on the topics at hand of this board.
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Ding ding ding. We have a winner!!!! well, to be fair I"m not sure that they're 'staff' but they sure are trying to deflect the attention!!
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Georgie she is a certified dental hygienist with quite a few years experience BEFORE Hidden Lake Academy. And she has been employed off and on at the dental office at the school since as early as 2002, maybe even before that. Why don't you get your facts straight before you post shit you know absolutely NOTHING about and make yourself look clueless YET again. Because, you truly are clueless about ANYTHING that has to do with Bill Gray or his family. Stick to things you actually know about.
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The dirty south is Louisiana, Mississippi,Carolina, NOT texas ya nigger wanna-be...Texas is the Mid-west, cock licker
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On 2005-12-22 19:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
Texas is the Mid-west, cock licker"
Texas is an entire mess unto its own. Don't insult the midwest OR the south by including Texas
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My mother is from Texas and Texans are neither Southern or Midwestern or southwestern. They are Texan, and nothing else. Some might have southern accents near Louisiana, and some might have southwestern accents near New Mexico, but they are definately Texan. They are a breed all their own and if they had their way they would be their own country.
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On 2005-12-22 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Good point, Texas BLOWS Georgies little bird :lol: "
Bush? Yep, you're absolutely right.
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I hate to break this to ya, but George W. is not a true Texan. His parents are from the Northeast. He is a yankee who's family took Texas as their adopted state due to their oil business. They are no more Texan than Jeb is a Floridian.
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On 2005-12-22 19:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I hate to break this to ya, but George W. is not a true Texan. His parents are from the Northeast. He is a yankee who's family took Texas as their adopted state due to their oil business. They are no more Texan than Jeb is a Floridian. "
Yes, I realize that but he considers himself a Texan and calls it home and all his fucking cronies ended up either in that state, FL or in the goddamn fucking WH. Sad, very sad.
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On 2005-12-22 19:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Georgie she is a certified dental hygienist with quite a few years experience BEFORE Hidden Lake Academy. And she has been employed off and on at the dental office at the school since as early as 2002, maybe even before that. Why don't you get your facts straight before you post shit you know absolutely NOTHING about and make yourself look clueless YET again. Because, you truly are clueless about ANYTHING that has to do with Bill Gray or his family. Stick to things you actually know about."
Well it looks like Bill traded in for the upgrade. I mean we all realize what an embarresment his first wife is. I must congratulate you Bill really. Going from chief envelope stuffer, to a dental hygenist. Good job.
But I digress.
Lets discuss fire saftey at HLA. Was it a fire hazard that the windows were all bolted shut and the doors could only be opened from the outside?
Is this still the situation?
Staff?
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This is SHH again, and Robert? you have no clue who I am, what kind of person I am, or what kind of person his wife is, or anything of any importance regarding Bill Gray. His wife is a nice decent person, but so am I. I happen to be an underwriter at a large bank and have been in the banking business for 21 years. I only took that job at the school because I was a stay at home mom for 3.5 yrs and was able to do that work inbetween my house and the admin building and the teachers needed help with the reports. But I shouldn't be surprised. It is typical insulting behavior coming from you because you don't like my opinions you feel it's necessary to trash my name and reputation. I know who I am, and what kind of person I am, and so does everybody else who knows me, and I don't give a flying fuck what you think. But I do care when you slander and libel me, and you WILL see me in court if you keep it up. I am not kidding. Im sick of the lies you are spreading on here about me and others and I intend to put a stop to it.
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On 2005-12-23 03:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
"This is SHH again, and Robert? you have no clue who I am, what kind of person I am, or what kind of person his wife is, or anything of any importance regarding Bill Gray. His wife is a nice decent person, but so am I. I happen to be an underwriter at a large bank and have been in the banking business for 21 years. I only took that job at the school because I was a stay at home mom for 3.5 yrs and was able to do that work inbetween my house and the admin building and the teachers needed help with the reports. But I shouldn't be surprised. It is typical insulting behavior coming from you because you don't like my opinions you feel it's necessary to trash my name and reputation. I know who I am, and what kind of person I am, and so does everybody else who knows me, and I don't give a flying fuck what you think. But I do care when you slander and libel me, and you WILL see me in court if you keep it up. I am not kidding. Im sick of the lies you are spreading on here about me and others and I intend to put a stop to it. "
Warning: Impotent threat above.
Suzanne Gray, mindless troll, HLA groupie and generally the least effective and most blowhard idiot on the board. You ain't gonna do anything at all, so shut your fat face already. :wave:
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On 2005-12-23 03:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
"This is SHH again, and Robert? you have no clue who I am, what kind of person I am, or what kind of person his wife is, or anything of any importance regarding Bill Gray. His wife is a nice decent person, but so am I. I happen to be an underwriter at a large bank and have been in the banking business for 21 years. I only took that job at the school because I was a stay at home mom for 3.5 yrs and was able to do that work inbetween my house and the admin building and the teachers needed help with the reports. But I shouldn't be surprised. It is typical insulting behavior coming from you because you don't like my opinions you feel it's necessary to trash my name and reputation. I know who I am, and what kind of person I am, and so does everybody else who knows me, and I don't give a flying fuck what you think. But I do care when you slander and libel me, and you WILL see me in court if you keep it up. I am not kidding. Im sick of the lies you are spreading on here about me and others and I intend to put a stop to it. "
I knew that would get you out of the shadows. Youre so predictable. Answer the questions put to you earlier without your trademark claim of, "What questions? I have answered every question put to me." Because no you havent.
As to your other comments, is there anything you think you could sue me or anyone else on here for that we could not sue you in return for the same thing?
Keep that in mind.
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You have made libelous statements. She has only called you an asshole. Calling someone a child abuser and saying they need their children taken away is a far cry from the word asshole. Maybe next time you will think about how you debate.
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Prove that I ever made such a statement.
:grin:
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I have the copy of where you called her a child abuser and worse from the amazing forums board. You have also made libelous statements on this board. Proof? I have plenty of it "Mr. Bruce".
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Then post it. Oh and recall well that the Amazing Forums board did not require a password. For all I know it could have been you posting that nasty hurtful things.
As for any statement on here, toss it up there and I will be happy to toss one of hers right back.
Shes done a bit more more than call me an asshole now hasnt she? Remember her IP address was traced so even when she was hiding behind that anon tag out of cowardice, it wont help her in the least should she seek action.
You people keep forgetting we are all smarter than you.
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What crime did she commit while posting anonymously? Is it a crime to post anonymously? Was it a crime what she posted? Can you prove who people are on here? supposedly you can't from what I hear from computer experts
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just the 'crime' of double-standard. if her comments have merit and credibility, why has she (you) resorted to posting anon to defend yourself and make threats?
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Yes thankyou.
If Ive said anything that might be considered libelous towards people on here, it is no different than some of the things youve said concerning us.
Remember calling someone a liar when they are telling the truth counts.
Further Ive explained this to you many times we ran her IP, we know that the IP address matches up with the one she used as Shh, and she acknowledged who she was as Shhh.
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What does being anonymous have to do with saying libelous things? Calling someone an asshole is not libelous. However, accusing them of a crime and saying that they have done illegal things and have abused children is. There is a big difference.
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Mrs. Gray did committ a crime. Thats been proven.
Bullfrog whats your first name so I can make it more clear?
As far as abusing children again can you prove I made any such statements?
:grin:
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What is her crime Mr. Bruce?
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On 2005-12-22 19:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Georgie she is a certified dental hygienist with quite a few years experience BEFORE Hidden Lake Academy. And she has been employed off and on at the dental office at the school since as early as 2002, maybe even before that. Why don't you get your facts straight before you post shit you know absolutely NOTHING about and make yourself look clueless YET again. Because, you truly are clueless about ANYTHING that has to do with Bill Gray or his family. Stick to things you actually know about."
Georgie? Your a native molester from Dahlonega, aren't you? I think it's funny how the former assistant at that office is just magically gone one day, who was a member of the community (came to the Dahlonega Gold City AA meetings) and then all of a sudden, she's gone, nowhere to be heard of and fancy little Amanda Gray pops up out of nowhere. Where's the proof that she's had ACTUAL dental experience?
Talk shit about where I'm from. All your trying to do is divert me and other memebers on the board from the topic at hand. Your from Georgia, I really don't care what you or any of your TherapySquadClick thinks. Bring it Anonypussies
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On 2005-12-23 14:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What is her crime Mr. Bruce? "
Revealing information she gained about a student from confidential files.
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I am not from Georgia. And she had more than several years experience in an adjacent county. She is a certified dental hygienist. She has been employed off and on by the school since before you ever showed up George. She was first employed there as early as late 2001 or early 2002. Were you there then? No. You have no idea what you are talking about. Trust me she is more than qualified to work in her capacity. Quit assuming so much George you know nothing and it is obvious.
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On 2005-12-23 14:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Georgie, be a MAN, stop being a little pussy, get over HLA already, get laid or something, jesus ... :roll: "
I didn't flinch the first seven times you tricks made that statement, what makes you think #8 will have a different effect?
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And you have proof of this how Mr. Bruce? YOu saw her look at these files? You were told she looked at these files? You are speculating about something that you have no idea whether or not it actually occured. You cannot sue or bring charges against someone without evidence.
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On 2005-12-23 14:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I am not from Georgia. And she had more than several years experience in an adjacent county. She is a certified dental hygienist. She has been employed off and on by the school since before you ever showed up George. She was first employed there as early as late 2001 or early 2002. Were you there then? No. You have no idea what you are talking about. Trust me she is more than qualified to work in her capacity. Quit assuming so much George you know nothing and it is obvious."
I know nothing and it is obvious. Hahaha. You're just afraid I know too much and I can use it against you. Hey Bill, when did you divorce your first Susie-bear, and when did Amanda come in?
I'll keep you my dirty little secret...
_________________
Academic transcript: $16,409.78
Personal possessions: $53.61 (first 2 boxes only)
Finding out you can't receive what's legally yours: priceless
Some things manipulation can't buy. For everything else, there's Hidden Lake Academy.[ This Message was edited by: WestSideStud2430 on 2005-12-23 15:15 ]
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Tricks? :lol: :lol: Its not 1997 anymore, faggot , stop sucking nigger dick you Texan hillbilly
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On 2005-12-23 14:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Tricks? :lol: :lol: Its not 1997 anymore, faggot , stop sucking nigger dick you Texan hillbilly"
Once again, I'm crying. You still haven't answered my question...
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Bill Gray is out of town on holiday. He is not posting on this board and never has.
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On 2005-12-23 14:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"And you have proof of this how Mr. Bruce? YOu saw her look at these files? You were told she looked at these files? You are speculating about something that you have no idea whether or not it actually occured. You cannot sue or bring charges against someone without evidence."
Then she would need to provide another means of having gained that knowledge. Either someone else gave it to her or she got it herself. Either way its illegal.
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On 2005-12-23 15:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Bill Gray is out of town on holiday. He is not posting on this board and never has. "
Prove it.
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Prove it? Call the school and ask if he is there dumbass.
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On 2005-12-23 15:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Prove it? Call the school and ask if he is there dumbass."
Just like my Dad called when he was there two weeks ago and never got a call back? Or was that another vacation that was probably paid for on the school's expense card?
Dumbass.
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What difference would that make? Why would he need to be at the school in order to post on here?
Hey newsflash, Im not at HLA either but Im still posting on this message board.
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Its christmas. He is out of town in another state visiting his parents. Is that ok with you? Or did he need permission? Damn dude you really are a piece of work.
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It's a miracle called THE INTERNET. I'm not sure if you've heard of it, but it's an interconnected network of servers, sites and programs that's worldwide (meaning in multiple locations, or (in more than one place)). Are you related to Shortbus?
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On 2005-12-23 15:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Cause he actually has a life, unlike Georgie and Brucey the two anal buddies :rofl: :lol: "
Best post Ive read all day :lol:
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Not just a miracle. A Christmas miracle.
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Georgie likes hairy men
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But we're not here to talk about what North Georgians do. We're here to talk about the topic at hand. In a few years, we might be able to get there...
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if bill gray is out of town, then who answered questions this morning? who else is qualified?
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 240#158140 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12693&forum=41&start=240#158140)
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On 2005-12-23 15:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"My boss states : " Tell those internet addicted no life having losers that I hope a bullet gently finds its way to there faces""
Really now? Wow, is that the kind of person that anyone would want teaching their kids let alone trying to "help" them with whatever perceived problems they may have? Gotta love that program mentality.....anyone who disagrees with me should DIE!! :roll:
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On 2005-12-23 15:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"My boss states : " Tell those internet addicted no life having losers that I hope a bullet gently finds its way to there faces""
We'll be sure to mention that in the upcoming trial.
By the way if we are "internet addicted no life having losers" what does that make you?
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Its a hope, not a threat, get over it ...COURT CASE HAHAHAHAHAAA!!
ok let me stop..
HAHAHAHAAAA :lol:
oK Ok hold on
HAHAHAHAHAAAA
Im sorry , Its just
HAHhahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahah :lol: :lol: Get real :lol:
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On 2005-12-23 15:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Its a hope, not a threat, get over it
I could give a fuck whether its an idle threat, a hope, a wish or whatever you'd like to term it. It speaks volumes about the kind of people running that place and the people they're turning out of it. Keep it coming, you have no idea how much you're actually helping in what we're trying to accomplish! :wave:
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
Keep laughing.
We'll see you there.
Its ironic you make your comments immediatly after I get done having a conversation with yet another former student regarding conversations with their lawyers.
Are you honestly that fucking stupid that you believe there arent enough claims out there to bury that school under a layer of paper work for the next thirty years?
Tell me you arent that fucking stupid.
Please.
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HLA saved my life, I dont think thats a staff member posting that horrific stuff..I think its an aggressive former student.
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Tell the lawyers and the judge to SUCK MY DICK, print it out and bring it to your *fantasy* trial :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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On 2005-12-23 15:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-23 15:38:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"HAHAHAHAHAHA
Keep laughing.
We'll see you there.
Its ironic you make your comments immediatly after I get done having a conversation with yet another former student regarding conversations with their lawyers.
Are you honestly that fucking stupid that you believe there arent enough claims out there to bury that school under a layer of paper work for the next thirty years?
Tell me you arent that fucking stupid.
Please. "
Confirmed bullshit once again from Bruce"
Confirmed? Really? How did you confirm it? Please elaborate.
Considering its factual and youre just afraid Im telling the truth. Well for once your right cause I am.
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On 2005-12-23 15:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Tell the lawyers and the judge to SUCK MY DICK, print it out and bring it to your *fantasy* trial :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: "
Really? Done. So tell me since youre so unconcerned with the consequences of your actions, whats your real name. I mean since it doesnt matter you have nothing to fear right?
Unless of course you arent really wanting us to tell the judge you said to suck your dick?
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You know if you idiots would just behave like your friend is, the conversation would be much easier on everyone.
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Peter Gibbons, now go tell the judge to SUCK MY DICK
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So, when is this "Trial" taking place :lol:
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On 2005-12-23 16:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Peter Gibbons, now go tell the judge to SUCK MY DICK"
Peter Gibbons is that right?
Hmmm where have I heard that name before?
Oh yes thats right Office Space.
A couple of days ago you were Cosmo or something stupid like that. Its obvious what a pussy you are. You talk big behind a computer screen but youd never be man enough to face your opponent in a court room let alone a back alley. Why dont you stop talking now. Youre a fucking joke and your only hurting your fellow child abusers cause.
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On 2005-12-23 16:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So, when is this "Trial" taking place :lol: "
You'll find out when it happens I guess.
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On 2005-12-23 16:09:00, RobertBruce wrote:
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On 2005-12-23 16:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So, when is this "Trial" taking place :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :lol: :lol:
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semantics? So not only are you a retarded little bitch who lives at his grandmas house, is gay, has no job, likes to watch guys masturbate, and wants to have sex with corpses, but you so beyond retarded that you dont know the proper meaning of the word semantics?
You keep getting funnier and easier to laugh at all the time.
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Oh my god oh my god oh my god, what am I going to do!! A trial!! Oh my god Im so scared :scared: :scared:
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If I had to guess I would say you wont show up and make good on your idle threats because youre a little cry baby bitch.
Just a guess, but probably right on.
As for what the Buch will do, well why dont you ask him.
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A trial? Oh my god! What am I gonna do?? What am I gonna wear, oh my god :scared: :scared:
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I just told you what youll do.
As to what youll wear, again guessing but I would have to say you'll probably show up in one of granny's old moo-moo's.
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On 2005-12-23 16:26:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"I just told you what youll do.
As to what youll wear, again guessing but I would have to say you'll probably show up in one of granny's old moo-moo's. "
I hate your fucking guts, but I must admit, I actually finally laughed at a response from you, that was good...Grandma's moo moo :tup:
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It was wasnt it?
I find it odd though you hate a person you have never met and know nothing about.
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On 2005-12-23 16:36:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"It was wasnt it?
I find it odd though you hate a person you have never met and know nothing about. "
Do you really find it that odd considering where this person has come from? Come on now, that's just typical program shit. Hate anyone who dares challenge anything about their beloved program.
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On 2005-12-23 16:36:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"It was wasnt it?
I find it odd though you hate a person you have never met and know nothing about. "
Im done fuckin with you only because I loved that response, have a great night Robert Bruce ::cheers:: ::heart::
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The "grannys moo-moo" response :tup:
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On 2005-12-23 15:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
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if bill gray is out of town, then who answered questions this morning? who else is qualified?
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 240#158140 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12693&forum=41&start=240#158140)
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Well I can tell you it wasnt Mr. Gray. He was in a car this afternoon.
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Now how would you know that?
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Because I am the one who posted that last post and Im SHH. I know because I was on the phone with my son today and he was riding in his dad's car traveling between states. So, therefore, obviously it wasn't bill gray on this board.
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On 2005-12-23 17:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Because I am the one who posted that last post and Im SHH. I know because I was on the phone with my son today and he was riding in his dad's car traveling between states. So, therefore, obviously it wasn't bill gray on this board."
Really? What kind of cellphone does Bill have? Does it have internet access?
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do you really think that bill would waste his time on here? if he was in the car, i'm sure the first thing on his mind was getting on here and posting... wow... that's funny mr.bruce... hella funny...
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Oh yea, thats right..driving 7 1/2 hours across 3 states with 4 kids and the wife in a car and he is going to hook up online while doing that???? Are you NUTS???? By the way, his cell phone is old as hell...no such thing as internet access on it even IF he wanted to, which he doesn't.
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We cant be sure though can. I'm really not the person to be discussing this, George (Westside) is, and he makes a fairly good case. Who else is going to post about a conversation between George, his father and Bill?
Maybe its his dad posting on here in secret?
Accept the truth, Bill is posting on here because you people are getting desperate.
Now Susie both you and Aften have some questions youve been to afraid to answer.
Any chance of you to building up some courage any time soon?
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Robert get a grip. Bill is in a CAR right now. A CAR. Do you U N D E R S T A N D ???? He is driving from one state to another during his christmas visit with his family. He has my son in his car. He has 3 other children and his wife. Do you seriously think he is going to pull over to the side of the road to post on this site???? He doesnt even have an internet phone. OH you really do have serious issues. If you dont believe me call the HLA number and ask for him. His voice msg says he will be out until Tuesday.
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Where are these mysterious questions? your last post had a link but it didnt go to any questions. There are some questions I saw on another post but someone else answered those.
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By sifting thru the hundreds of posts written by Sir Robert Bruce, I can safely assume why he was at HLA :lol:
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On 2005-12-23 19:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"By sifting thru the hundreds of posts written by Sir Robert Bruce, I can safely assume why he was at HLA :lol: "
The guys a fucking Fruit Loop
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On 2005-12-23 19:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Robert get a grip. Bill is in a CAR right now. A CAR. Do you U N D E R S T A N D ???? He is driving from one state to another during his christmas visit with his family. He has my son in his car. He has 3 other children and his wife. Do you seriously think he is going to pull over to the side of the road to post on this site???? He doesnt even have an internet phone. OH you really do have serious issues. If you dont believe me call the HLA number and ask for him. His voice msg says he will be out until Tuesday."
:razz:
Again you highlight your own stupidity and cowardice. Instead of addressing the questions in the post you focus on something no one gives a shit about. Namley me. I told you Westside is the person to ask, I didnt speak to Bill he did.
Respond to the point made about the comment referencing the conversation Westside had with Bill.
I understand why you wont though, you just arent smart enough to formulate a reasonable response and you know we are right once again. Bill Gray did post on here.
Now go answer the questions both of you.
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On 2005-12-23 19:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"By sifting thru the hundreds of posts written by Sir Robert Bruce, I can safely assume why he was at HLA :lol: "
You sifted through hundreds of post? Wow you really have nothing better to do do you?
But please post up the reason why I was sent to HLA if you believe you know.
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Tell me how Bill Gray posted on here when he was at his mother's house with no internet for 3 days. He doesn't even know the address to this site idiot.
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Wow you really keep close tabs on him dont you. Do you have a locator beacon on him or are you just stalking him.
How do you know that he doesnt know of this webiste. Enough HLA staffers have been here to suggest that is not the case, this site and others are well known to both staff and students.
But I digress. If he was not here how then were the comments made concerning a conversation that took place between Westside, his dad, and Bill?
Explain.
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Joe, of 3223 registered users and unknown number of anon posters, how many do you suppose sometimes go by "Bob" or "Rob" or "Robert" or something similar?
Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
--Annie Dillard, "Pilgrim at Tinker Creek"
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Ginger who are you talking to?
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Robert this is SHH. I am not stalking him. He has my son with him this week and I have known his wherabouts for the past 6 days because of that. My son has been with him since Monday. They are out of town in another state with relatives, who don't have the internet. Bill does know about this site but has never logged onto it. I told him about what George was accusing him of the other day and I told him he could see for himself and that was when he told me he has never logged on here, that he doesnt know the address. He only knows its a fornit's board. He knows other log on here, and knows I do, but has never done so himself.
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if i were bill and didn't want others to know i posted here, you'd be the LAST person i told!!! if bill is posting here, who answered the questions about HLA. who is qualified to do so, other than bill?
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On 2005-12-24 05:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ginger who are you talking to?"
Why, I'm talking to Joe. Follow the bouncing ball, anon... ::bigsmilebounce:: The worst government is the most moral. One composed of cynics
is often very tolerant and human. But when fanatics are on top,
there is no limit to oppression.
--H.L. Mencken
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On 2005-12-23 20:01:00, RobertBruce wrote:
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On 2005-12-23 19:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"By sifting thru the hundreds of posts written by Sir Robert Bruce, I can safely assume why he was at HLA :lol: "
You sifted through hundreds of post? Wow you really have nothing better to do do you?
But please post up the reason why I was sent to HLA if you believe you know."
Because you are a fucking NUT
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On 2005-12-24 09:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-23 20:01:00, RobertBruce wrote:
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On 2005-12-23 19:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"By sifting thru the hundreds of posts written by Sir Robert Bruce, I can safely assume why he was at HLA :grin:
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On 2005-12-24 05:47:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Robert this is SHH. I am not stalking him. He has my son with him this week and I have known his wherabouts for the past 6 days because of that. My son has been with him since Monday. They are out of town in another state with relatives, who don't have the internet. Bill does know about this site but has never logged onto it. I told him about what George was accusing him of the other day and I told him he could see for himself and that was when he told me he has never logged on here, that he doesnt know the address. He only knows its a fornit's board. He knows other log on here, and knows I do, but has never done so himself. "
Again you babbel on about something no one cares about in order to divert from the issue.
If Bill is not posting on here how were the comments made in regards to a conversation HE had?
Answer that or stop talking about it.
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Hey Joe, get a life
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Which one of these posts is a Joe?
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Robert that was ME(SHH). I was told about Bill and Georges conversation because I called Bill to tell him about what George was accusing him of. He then told me that he had already confronted George about his accusation while George was at the school. And he told Bill he was just mad and making it up. Bill Gray does not know the address to this site, I asked him and he didn't know how to find it. Bill has never posted on this site.
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Yes I'm sure that's the case.
Tell me though would that be considered a breach of confidentiality? I mean a man telling his ex wife what a patient said to him in a closed door session?
Is this ethical?
You let me know Bullfrog, and have a merry christmas. Oh and dont forget all those questions youve still been to frightened to answer.
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It wasnt an issue with patient confidentiality. It was an issue that I told Bill what George accused him and and he told me he had a conversation with him about it. Bill is not a counselor. This was about what George accused him of and nothing else. Now if Bill had told me something of another nature such as what George was in there for or what his issues were, that would be differnt. The conversation only consisted of what George accused him of, which George himself posted on here, nothing else. Nice try trying to make something out of nothing, as usual. I did nothing illegal, and neither did Bill in telling me what George accused him of, because George already stated it on this board himself. however, George did do something illegal in accusing Bill of something Bill is innocent of. There is no breach of confidentiality because it was nothing confidential. And as far as the questions, Please, once again, which questions havent I answered? I tried to find what you were talking about with a post from 12/13? I coudlnt find anything there. What questions havent I answered?
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On 2005-12-24 13:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It wasnt an issue with patient confidentiality. It was an issue that I told Bill what George accused him and and he told me he had a conversation with him about it. Bill is not a counselor. This was about what George accused him of and nothing else. Now if Bill had told me something of another nature such as what George was in there for or what his issues were, that would be differnt. The conversation only consisted of what George accused him of, which George himself posted on here, nothing else. Nice try trying to make something out of nothing, as usual. I did nothing illegal, and neither did Bill in telling me what George accused him of, because George already stated it on this board himself. however, George did do something illegal in accusing Bill of something Bill is innocent of. There is no breach of confidentiality because it was nothing confidential. And as far as the questions, Please, once again, which questions havent I answered? I tried to find what you were talking about with a post from 12/13? I coudlnt find anything there. What questions havent I answered?"
Oh Bullfrog there's no question what you did was illegal. As I said before it isnt a big deal do it again. Release the name dates and length of stay of another student.
As for Bill I never claimed his actions were illegal I asked if they were ethical. Im betting you dont know the meaning of the word as he probably doesnt either, but the question remains.
Is it proper for Bill to be discussing a student with someone who does not work there and has nothing to do with the school?
What would the Buch think?
Oh the questions you still havent answered have been posted and the time stamp given. Just follow the bread crumbs laid out for you Bullfrog.
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You are wrong it is not illegal to discuss an issue already discussed on this board by the student in question. There is no confideniality. It is a public issue if that was the only issue discussed.
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Don't buy a pig in a poke!
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On 2005-12-24 14:40:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You are wrong it is not illegal to discuss an issue already discussed on this board by the student in question. There is no confideniality. It is a public issue if that was the only issue discussed. "
Once again Bullfrog your idiocy and weakness shine through like a search light. No one said what Bill did was illegal, I stated it was a question of ethics for him to discuss the matter with you.
Do you not understand the difference something that is illegal and unethical? Probably not as you are willing to do both without hesitation.
And yet still you dont answer the questions put to you.
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*Newsflash* George was not a "patient" but rather a student. Not to mention the fact that Bill is not a clinician of any sort and is therefore not bound by a therapists rules. Before we get excited and consult our attorneys lets use common sense! I wouldn't accuse anyone of ridin' a short bus when Robert and George appear to have ridden in a mini van.
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On 2005-12-24 21:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"*Newsflash* George was not a "patient" but rather a student. Not to mention the fact that Bill is not a clinician of any sort and is therefore not bound by a therapists rules. Before we get excited and consult our attorneys lets use common sense! I wouldn't accuse anyone of ridin' a short bus when Robert and George appear to have ridden in a mini van. "
hahahahahaha!!!!!! yeah!! Finally, some :lol: truth in this cesspool
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On 2005-12-24 21:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"*Newsflash* George was not a "patient" but rather a student. Not to mention the fact that Bill is not a clinician of any sort and is therefore not bound by a therapists rules. Before we get excited and consult our attorneys lets use common sense! I wouldn't accuse anyone of ridin' a short bus when Robert and George appear to have ridden in a mini van. "
FRONT PAGE STORY:
"Dumb Bitch Writes Retarded Article"
I say consult your attorneys. I'd like to see some action taken against abuse factories. Never know what could happen...
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NEWSFLASH:
NO confidential information was given. Hence, no breach of confidentiality.
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On 2005-12-25 05:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
"NEWSFLASH:
NO confidential information was given. Hence, no breach of confidentiality. "
This just in...
Susie Gray has no life and spends Christmas posting in defense of her fat-ass ex-husband rather than playing with her kids.
More to come on this breaking story...
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Newsflash to the stupid ones:
SHH is home sick and has no kids today. Her son is with his father until tomorrow. Therefore, no kids to play with.
Dumbass.
Worry about your own life and leave mine out of your sick imagination. Who's the one with no life? Sure as hell ain't me.
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On 2005-12-25 10:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Newsflash to the stupid ones:
SHH is home sick and has no kids today. Her son is with his father until tomorrow. Therefore, no kids to play with.
Dumbass.
Worry about your own life and leave mine out of your sick imagination. Who's the one with no life? Sure as hell ain't me."
Hopefully you're REALLY sick. Nobody deserves to be miserable on Christmas more than you, loser.
Hope you're coughing up play-doh right through the new year, too. :wave:
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On 2005-12-25 10:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Newsflash to the stupid ones:
SHH is home sick and has no kids today. Her son is with his father until tomorrow. Therefore, no kids to play with.
Dumbass.
Worry about your own life and leave mine out of your sick imagination. Who's the one with no life? Sure as hell ain't me."
Hope you choke on your own vomit! Enjoy! :lol: :lol:
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Can't you guys give this shit up for one damn day????
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On 2005-12-25 12:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Can't you guys give this shit up for one damn day????"
Can you not look? No, no of course you can't. You're like a monkey looking in a mirror. You can't help yourself.
Sincerest wishes that you had a shitty xmas to go along with the rest of your pathetic existence.
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Ahh the maturity on this board is so refreshing. Just the thing I've come to expect from the sort that hang out here.
Merry Fuckin' Christmas
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On 2005-12-25 12:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ahh the maturity on this board is so refreshing. Just the thing I've come to expect from the sort that hang out here.
Merry Fuckin' Christmas "
Go crawl in a hole child abuser. You're getting what you deserve for xmas this year.
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On 2005-12-25 12:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Can't you guys give this shit up for one damn day????"
I heard you gave it up quite a bit. Drunks like fat girls I guess.
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On 2005-12-25 12:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
I heard you gave it up quite a bit. Drunks like fat girls I guess."
Really? :rofl:
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Who's the drunk and who's the fat girl?
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***Ahh the maturity on this board is so refreshing.
Ahh, as "refreshing" as providing those lame answers to questions?
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 240#158140 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12693&forum=41&start=240#158140)
***Just the thing I've come to expect from the sort that hang out here. Merry Fuckin' Christmas
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Just the rudeness some of us have come to expect from hla staff, when they think they're unknown.
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Too bad it's not staff. Too bad that once again assumptions are proven incorrect.
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Not as rude as some former students
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On 2005-12-25 13:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Who's the drunk and who's the fat girl?"
Suzanne Gray and Suzanne Gray. :wave:
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***Too bad it's not staff. Too bad that once again assumptions are proven incorrect.
***Not as rude as some former students>>>
Suzanne,
You proved nothing. You provided no evidence, just an anonymous defense.
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On 2005-12-24 21:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"*Newsflash* George was not a "patient" but rather a student. Not to mention the fact that Bill is not a clinician of any sort and is therefore not bound by a therapists rules. Before we get excited and consult our attorneys lets use common sense! I wouldn't accuse anyone of ridin' a short bus when Robert and George appear to have ridden in a mini van. "
Bullfrog you really must be frightened of this question.
I never stated what Bill did was illegal, I asked you if it was ethical for him to dicuss a patient (or student if you want to play with semantics) with someone who does not work there.
Now do you understand me this time? Get help if needed, I'm sure your disabled family members can provide you with assistiance if you asked them.
So get to it answer the question, along with all the others youve been hiding from. [ This Message was edited by: RobertBruce on 2005-12-26 10:52 ]
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This statement was not made by the person you call Bullfrog.
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Who cares. She's still arguing the same point and still afraid to answer the question.
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On 2005-11-13 14:20:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"Like i previously stated, i do not feel i am at liberty to dicuss how i know where Dr.Len's condo is, therefore, i do not see why you are trying to manipulate that out of me. It doesn't matter what affiliation i had or may have with HLA. You are manipulating the situation, and I want you to accept responsibility for your own actions, and own up to the fault that you are reassigning to others."
Why wouldn't you be able to discuss it?
Pretty weird how a patient has the private information about the owner. You know he's gay, you know his man, you know where he lives, you know what neighborhood specifically and you know it's a condo.
What kind of inappropriate relationships did you have at HLA to find this information? Sounds like some staff are getting into some serious inappropriate disclosures... Typical for pseudo-professionals.
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This seems to be an ongoing theme: staff having inappropriate relationships with patients.
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On 2005-12-26 11:04:00, SHH Anon Classics wrote:
"This statement was not made by the person you call Bullfrog."
Apparently it was, wasn't it?
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On 2005-12-23 12:01:00, SHH Anon Classics wrote:
"What crime did she commit while posting anonymously? Is it a crime to post anonymously? Was it a crime what she posted? Can you prove who people are on here? supposedly you can't from what I hear from computer experts"
I guess you heard wrong. Or maybe your "experts" that you consult with are just more of your multiple personalities.
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On 2005-12-23 12:01:00, SHH Anon Classics wrote:
"What crime did she commit while posting anonymously? Is it a crime to post anonymously? Was it a crime what she posted? Can you prove who people are on here? supposedly you can't from what I hear from computer experts"
Further evidence to the brilliance of Mrs. Grey.
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I don't know why they don't just ask Jeanine.
Patient memoirs are a kind of protest literature like slave narratives or witness testimonies.
G.A.Hornstein
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Who is Jeanine?
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SHH, please check your PM's.