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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: SS esq on November 11, 2005, 02:10:00 PM

Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: SS esq on November 11, 2005, 02:10:00 PM
I would love to hear everyone's personal experience they encountered at Elan. I think if we al put into it, we can can the message out to thousands and thousands maybe even millions of people throught he use of this site. There is too much arguing amongst people here,lets let that be a thing of the past now. Nobody wins, all arguments end now.Lets expose these criminal's that run Elan, lets let the world know how awful a place it was and still is. If everyone can contribute, I think the media would want to look into this and perhaps will help us exploit Elan.But first we need to stick together and put all differences aside, lets end the name calling, and the blatant insults.I too am not a perfect individual and have been one that likes to argue, but I am willing to set all my differences aside and make this site work and live up to a potential tool, that can help aide and exposing the evil that is elan.If we really want to make this work, we need only to tell the truth. I know there is alot of funny humor regarding some staff, but if you really want to be taken seriously and be heard, all that needs to be put to the side.Lets start off by telling our personal experiences of the place and what lunacy we witnessed happend to ourselfs and others.It would also help if that if you do decide to participate in this discussion, to not by anonymous, you dont have to come forward and say who you are, just make up a simple screen name so that we can all identify with each other and converse more easily.
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: SS esq on November 11, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
I would especially loved to hear from recent students that recently got out of elan.I hear that elan is no where near as dangerous o the place that it once was, but I still would love to know exactly what they have changed and what kind of new abuse the school has adapted too.I have a eeling that they got smarter and found another way to mind fuck the teen.J.Gottlieb always use to say, (you can go through Elan 2 ways, the hard way, or the motherfucker way)I personally think Jeff loved putting all students through the mother fucker way, he got a sick thrill from it.Ofcoarse there were some that kissed ass and were brown nosers to Gottlieb, and Gottlieb acknowledged it and took advantage of it for his own personal gain.I remember he had students wash his car and him giving them cigarettes or their work.
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2005, 04:31:00 PM
House in the dining room, GENERAL MEETING!!!!!!! Great times man, great times.... :lol:  :lol:
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Mr. Pink's Attorney on November 15, 2005, 11:41:00 AM
elan graduates; the only people in the world who can make some smeblance of sense out of the phrase -

"CHIEF ROAMING SHINGLE!"
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: JMCE304 on November 15, 2005, 08:17:00 PM
I just graduated in December after about 3 years. Many mixed feelings of resentment looking back on it now. Im just glad I didnt know about all this crazy shit while i was there, would have made it alot harder... Well, shit has definetly changed from what I read here. Of course we got injustices, and had to put up with some garbage that just didnt make sense, but being once of only 3 coordinators for my last 6 or so months was the hardest thing I have ever done in my life, and I doubt if I'll ever be faced with such a challenging situation ever again. I played my cards right, I was under 18 the majority of my stay, so I figured, only one way out, ya know? I was in E-3 and Jeff was my phone call contact. I also actually live only 5 min away from him. I think he is a great man, and i cannot believe some of the things i see here. Of course things that happened in the past to some of you guys that are unforgivable, but while i was there all the staff were very caring, and the most neglect i ever recieved was not being able to use the bathroom. And that was because i would be COD getting all the non strength to the bathroom. Your all right about the school system sucking ass, I made high honors and put in no effort, besides being polite to the teachers. Big self esteem boost, until I sat in my first college class at Husson college in Bangor. I went thru my "im signing out" phases, but I never could do it. After all was said and done, I'm glad I stuck it out. I'm sorry to hear about some of the shit you guys had to put up with. Oh yea, you guys will get a kick out of this... I worked at Scarboro Downs as a chef this past summer. (Scarboro downs, formerly owned by Joe Ricci, now by Sharon Terry). That shit sucked... ended up quitting after 3 weeks. Picture the elan 3 main kitchen, except in scarborough instead of poland. Same sysco food too. anyways, I wish you all well, hope to hear from some of you.
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Anonymous on November 16, 2005, 02:11:00 PM
PICK UP THE GUN
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: JMCE304 on November 16, 2005, 02:20:00 PM
...I would, but I don't know who or where you are, so there is no point.  :grin:
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Dr.Davidson Dickbreath on November 23, 2005, 12:57:00 PM
Ahh,another young graduate ready to make his mark on the world.Congratulations son,stay off the drugs and you'll be fine.Don't and you will die.
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2005, 04:40:00 PM
tHATS NOT TRUE, eLAN TAUGHT US THAT ANYTHING IS oK IN MODERATION ( FOR THE MOST PART )  MMMKAAAAYYY THERE GOOD BUDDY, 10-4 THAT
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Dr.Davidson Dickbreath on November 23, 2005, 05:04:00 PM
Is that what they're teaching you? I never paid much attention.(lol!) No wonder you're all so fucked up. You should stay AWAY from the drugs,trust me I love you.
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2005, 06:36:00 PM
Drugs are baaad, mkaaay
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
did elan rejuevenate your soul dickbreath???
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2005, 11:07:00 PM
I graduated in 1986 and its hard to believe jeff gotlieb is still there. Is Father Bob there too. And by the way Elan sucked and I was awol while I was a Chief Expediter and got caught
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2005, 01:06:00 PM
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Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Anonymous on January 09, 2006, 10:22:00 AM
I just got out 3 days ago!! omg i hated that place it was torture...They fucked with my OCD...!!!!!!!!!! SOmeone IM me, im like dramatized: arcaneXessence
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: Anonymous on January 10, 2006, 07:49:00 PM
Elan should be set on fire.
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: screann on January 10, 2006, 08:32:00 PM
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On 2006-01-09 07:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I just got out 3 days ago!! omg i hated that place it was torture...They fucked with my OCD...!!!!!!!!!! SOmeone IM me, im like dramatized: arcaneXessence"
Im glad that you made it out of that shit hole. As you will read here on this site you will see just how fucked up Elan really is and how it has fucked all our heads up. This site really helps get your anger out and say what you feel about the place. We all have our own stories and most of us are very undrstsnding because we all went through the same HELL. I must say the Elan of today is Nothing like it was in my day. I wish you luck. Again ,glad you made it. ::cheers::
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: SyN on January 10, 2006, 09:08:00 PM
Please tell us about your elan times.  i was there from 94-97 in 3>  I have heard of a merger of sorts whats that all about.  Do they still have rings encounter groups ect?  Has the dichotomy changes at all ect?
sorry for all the questions, purely curious is all.
Mike[ This Message was edited by: SyN on 2006-01-10 18:09 ]
Title: Elan School (Personal experiences)
Post by: JMCE304 on January 11, 2006, 12:48:00 AM
I was there with the above student who got out about a week ago. To be honest, the only thing that really, really sucks about being in elan right now, is you cant talk to your friends at home, and you have no freedom. While I was there from 02=04, nothing sick, stupid, or wrong was forced into my head. When I look back on it I realize it was mainly about organization and just taking directions without throwing a shit fit. Like I've mentioned in other posts, there are small children there now, like 13 year old kids and shit. Of course, at that age one would be very impressionable and such. I guess as close as behind the scenes it gets at elan is being a coordinator and shit, and all we ever talked about with these kids is how life isnt always fair, and I want you to push through the bullshit to get the rewards in the end. Unfortunatly, 18 months to 2 years seems like an eternity to these kids, and they lose focus, fuck up, and extend their stays until they are eventually discharged, and find themselves as juniors in a public highschool. I had no idea of this insance tampon taping, dunce cap wearing, aneurism inducing ring action and all that other shit until i was out, of course. I can definetly say that all that remains of the elan mentioned in these pages on this annoying, entertaining, stress-relieving, and very interesting forum, is the philosophy. Basic concept. Pullups, incident books, dealing crews, GM's, groups. Its the same, but now kids who played to many video games work in a static group. Not someone who has a serious drug problem. For real, I sat in so many groups as a coordinator for kids who discovered masturbation at elan. And it became a problem. They went crazy. thats what my time as a coordinator was. Gearing twisted disgusting incident books, putting out all male dealing crews all day, And getting the non strength to the bathroom was the most aggravating thing I had to do in elan. Anyways, as far as i see it, kids today succeed at elan if they realize there is no hope of leaving, i tried to sign out 4 times, always faced in the end with the actual realization of being a homeless person. if there parents stay strong etc. they can succeed, and i mean succeed as in just going thru the program and not getting stuck there for 38 months, what happens after really doesnt matter, graduate or not as i have realized after leaving. everyone there now doesnt want help like the heroin addicts did in the 70's. thats why so many people fail at elan now. its to bad.