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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Lighthouse of northwest florida (fka VCA )/ Rebekah / Roloff ) => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 13, 2005, 12:59:00 PM
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I need your help...Has anyone gone to VCA or New Beginnings since May 2004? I have a sister that was sent to New Beginnings in May 2004 and is still there and I'd like to know how she is doing.
Please e-amil:
[email protected]
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Your sis is incarcerated and you ahven't done shit to get her out? How do you think she is doing? She is being fucked with unmercifully....break her out. Be a real SISTER. She is gonna be fucked for years....Show your parents this site. Come on - do what is right for your sis!
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Thanks for stating the obvious! There aren't words to describe how awful these places are. I've spent the last year and over $20,000 to try to help her. I' ve spoken to countless lawyers, lawmakers, reporters, DCF, activists.... And yes, I tried breaking her out but it is a felony.
Now, are you just another person who wants to complain or do you have an idea of how to get her out?
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Don't listen to stuff like that.
Almost all of the time, only the parents have any say whatsoever. There have only been a couple of instances where family members were able to get someone out, but not many. I'm sorry, but there probably isn't anything you can legally do to get her out.
You can forward information about the place to the parents, but you might alienate them and cut off your own communication. I think the best thing you can do is educate yourself about what she's going through and be there for her when she gets out. It's really hard to get out and go into the real world with no one to understand. She won't be allowed to contact anyone from the facility, so she'll feel really out of place in this world. Just let her know about all the stuff that's going on online with the fora and stuff. I'm sure that she will also feel a lot better knowing that while she was in there, you were trying to get her out, even if your efforts are not successful.
If you haven't already, look at:
http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsnz.html#newbeginnings (http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsnz.html#newbeginnings)
Good luck!
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was she signed over by her parents? if not go there on her yearly visit, take her out and just dont go back. i was in rebekah (roloff) my sister called every single day for a year,never could she speak to me. its a shame you couldnt get some kind of search warrent w/ the police and get her that way.i know its frustrating,how long is she in for? if you cant get her out just be there for her when she gets out trust me shes going to need you. she might run wild like most of us did after being caged up like dogs.....maybe be like me...not facing the incarceration issues for 20 years,i am just now able to talk about that place,it didnt happen right when i got out.
good luck to you and God bless
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I read the following on ISAC about how a woman got her cousin out of Tranquility Bay. Just a thought for you:
"Gini Farmer discovered that her 12-year-old cousin has been handcuffed in the middle of the night and taken to Tranquility Bay. The worst thing anyone could say about the boy was that he had skipped school once.
According to Farmer the child didn?t like his father?s new wife.
Upon finding stories of unsanitary conditions, uneducated staff and abuse at Tranquility Bay, Gini Farmer began a 6-month battle to bring her cousin back to the United States.
Under Virginia?s laws, she had to prove the child was in danger of being abused or neglected.
3 former students of Tranquility Bay testified in court about their experiences in the program.
Aaron Kravig told the court about having to write seventy-four 5,000 word essays and contracting scabies which remained untreated until he came home.
Lindsey Wise told the court about raw sewage and bugs covering the floor and described the ?restraint? used at Tranquility Bay.
According to testimony, children were put face down on the floor, and while sitting on the child?s back, the staff member painfully twisted the student?s arms behind their back.
Wise also described hearing the screams of students being restrained.
Based on the sworn testimony, a Virginia Circuit Court Judge ordered the immediate release of Gini Farmer?s cousin. (Jamaica Observer)"
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You are a very good sister. She will have your support when she gets out and that will mean all the difference in the world. Don't get discouraged...you are dealing with very evil people who know how to manipulate the parents into believing that their daughter needs the school to survive adolescence. Email me if you need my support.
[email protected]
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Yeah, don't loose hope. Sooner or later she will come out and when that happens your sister will need you. I'm sure a lot of people once they got out of the program wished they had a sister like you.
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Thanks for all of your support! I am very worried abut what will happen to her when she gets out. What is life like when a person gets out of one of these homes? Her adoptive parents don't want anything to do to her, so she will have nowhere to go and certainly no emotional support from them. And I have no communication with them anymore as they have skipped town to evade child abuse charges so I really can;t work with them to help her. But I imagine that she would probably need some type of professional help to come to terms with what she had been through. ANy ideas?
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Do you know when she's supposed to be released? If she's under 18 emancipation sounds like an option. Immediate counseling would be a good idea too. Chances are if she bought into the program she'll have a self image problem, if not then she'll probably be totally untrusting of anyone in authority.
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blah! the only way to get anything done is illegal, or you just have to bust your ass out yourself. if she isnt going to bust herself out and no one is going to bust her out than she is staying there...parents dont listen! show them sites...show anyone and they will just say you are complaining. no one will listen. sorry...i speak from experience.
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[ This Message was edited by: = on 2005-06-15 01:24 ]
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http://www.gracega.org/xMissionaries/NewBeginnings.htm (http://www.gracega.org/xMissionaries/NewBeginnings.htm)
this is the best up to date images of the Camerons and the girls under them in the new place.
http://www.gracega.org/Sermons/Apr-Jun2 ... nings2.JPG (http://www.gracega.org/Sermons/Apr-Jun2004/NewBeginnings2.JPG)
written things on there also. from mcnamara.
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http://www.gracega.org/Missions/2004/NewBeg57.jpg (http://www.gracega.org/Missions/2004/NewBeg57.jpg)
here is the close up view of Wiley and Fay
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Hey, thanks, I've actually seen this before, my adopted sister is the one on the top of the page with a written statement, evana. Breaks my heart to see her brainwashed, because she never did drugs or even miss a day of school. long story, but her parents were the ones that violated the law if you know what I mean...
anyway...did you notice that the girls are working on teh roof of the building in those long skirts? That is a clear violation of federal law. minors are prohibited from working on roofs.
anyone got any ideas???
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Simply report it to Child Protective Services?
Show them the picture and describe the situation to them?
I dont know, just a thought....
if this is in florida? what does FLORIDA Law have to say about underage girls working in long skirts on a dangerous roof?
did not one of these places have a death of one of the minors associated with an accident while they were working like this?
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Hi, I've been on this site before, and I came on to see if anything had recently been said about New Beginnings because I was there from July 2003 to July 2004. I knew your sister Evana. I honestly don't know what else to say but that your sister is such a sweet girl. I've come to realuze some things good an dbad since I left New Beginnings. i know that being htere and everything helps people, it helped me. I know without a doubt that if my life hadn't been intervened in that I could be dead right now. Actually I know I'd be dead. I sat beside Evana a few times on the bus on tour and stuff, and she talked a lot about how much she loved her sister and missed her and stuff. I never saw Evana in any trouble there. I mean, whenever she first came she didn't want to be there, but eventually she came to like it from what I could tell. So before you do anything irrational to try to release her, consider what it could do to her and others. As far as my family knew - i hadn't done anything to be sent there either. But they didn't know alot. I'm not saying that it's the same case with you and your sister - bu tin some ways, it oculd hurt her and others to take her out before she's really ready. If you'd like to talk to me anymore about my experience there or what I remember about your sister there, I'd be happy to talk with you. My email address is [email protected] and my name is Tracy. I haven't looked at those pictures yet, but I'm sure I'm in them since I was there. I'll post again if I see where I am in the pictures. I'll be praying for you and your family, and that you'll be reunited with Evana and everything. Good luck.
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I looked and in the pictures where we are singing, I'm the one in the front row, with the white skirt on and a black shirt, next to the firl with yellow on.
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hi i read your post, i was in the homes and knew the camerons and the barretts very well and i did the tour thing and remeber mrs. cameron screaming at us for things. my question is, did the camerons ever get nice? i was there in the 80's so i doubt any of the workers would still be there from my day. Im glad you posted and would love to here stories on how the place is ran now, compared to when i was there.our home was called Rebekah and changed names a few times after i left
we have all been there done that and it is nice to be able to repect each others opinions about anything "roloff related". i speak for many girls, in the 70's and 80's it was not a good place to be. in fact i cant recall anyone i know from there that went on to be a preachers wife. most all of us ran wild when we got out. So what does that tell you? The place didnt help us!
I would love to talk to you some more, i will email you with my email address.
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Now before any one pounces on this girl for being pro roloff please let us remember, she hasnt had 20+ years to do healing like we have, and maybe being in favor of the place is all she knows right now. I repsect her for being honest in here.
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I was in Rebekah Home for a year in the early 80's and I am glad I went. I never saw or heard anything to complain about. The Camerons were nice, the school sucked but the rest was just fine. I was in the choir and enjoyed it. I have talked to others and they don't have any complaints either. My parents made a couple of surprise visits and the Camerons didn't have a problem, they even let me go out for the whole weekend, never said a thing about it. I didn't care they read my mail, my mom would write me 15 page letters front & back, so if they were bored enough to read her daily details so be it. Mom would send me huge care boxes I always got everything she sent.
I have gone on to have a wonderful productive life as an M.D. I doubt that without the home I would have focused myself as I did when I left.
Plain & simple it was a great experience. :grin:
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Its great that you had a wonderful experience there. I remember distinctly almost all of the girls received uncalled for spankings.I know there were other methods of trying to control and keep all of us in line, how can you not recall that? Are you saying that didnt take place the one year you happened to be there?
I am happy that there is an ex rebekah girl that is a doctor though, i hope Pace curicullum didnt affect you you.
I wish we would of had doctors there, isnt it odd that instead of real medical care they put onions in our rooms? Just my opinion thats all.
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Consider yourself one of the lucky ones. Perhaps it had something to do with going back to a caring and loving home. I suppose your parents have a lot of money too. How old were you when you went in?
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On 2005-09-06 23:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The Camerons were nice."
Um, so nice, that Faye Cameron was banned forever from working with children in Texas after she was convicted for tying up and beating a girl? So nice, that she is not supposed to even be allowed at the Florida school after she beat a girl with a curtain rod? So nice, that Wiley Cameron got the Texas school shut down after he made a boy jump across a refuse pit and break his ankles, then deny him medical treatment?
Yeah, they sound like really nice folks.
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good response, and thank you for pointing all of this out. There are people out there that need to know this
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I would love to find out what happened to some of the girls I was close to while I was in Rebekah in 1978! I would be interested in exchanging stories, experiances, and how life has been since release. My email is [email protected]
He who laughs lasts
--Crazy Mac
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On 2005-09-06 23:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The Camerons were nice."
Um, so nice, that Faye Cameron was banned forever from working with children in Texas after she was convicted for tying up and beating a girl? So nice, that she is not supposed to even be allowed at the Florida school after she beat a girl with a curtain rod? So nice, that Wiley Cameron got the Texas school shut down after he made a boy jump across a refuse pit and break his ankles, then deny him medical treatment?
Yeah, they sound like really nice folks.
Obviously you are twisting the facts about Bro. Cameron making a kid jump across a ditch for punishment. It was a
supervisor working for the Light House in Corpus Christi and he didnt make the kid jump he did however have him digging a ditch along with another young adult. The young adult chose to jump trying to show off infront of his Light House buddies. But he didnt anticipate himself breaking his ankle. However, Bro. Cameron was no where around when this occured. He did refuse to let the police confiscate records of the Light House Boys and for that he went to jail becuase he reserved the right to deny the police anything. I know this because I am a former Rebekah Girl 99-2001. When i was in the Rebekah Home for Girls i never witnessed any abuse from the Camerons or Mcnamara's. I did witness countless girls mutalate their own bodies to try to get out. I saw one particular girl scratch her back with a coat hanger multiple times to get out. She did get out. When girls start hurting themselve and the extreme measures I ve seen them go, then the staff has too take action and let that girl go because they cant risk all the girls potential to get right for one very disturbed one. So they let those paticular girls go home. Plus girls like that need Jesus and more, like phyciatiric help.
Jessica M 02/21/2007
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jessica m.,
When you talk about the gir who scratched her back with the coat hangar and you knew she did it herself why didn't you defend me when the macs accused me of it, and whipped me for it? I know a lot of you "Helpers" knew about it, but not a single one of you even stood up to tell the truth, that is why i can say that place was horrible, you guys were all looking for a scape goat and found it, so you need to look at what was really going on there, and who was really being hurt, cause it seems to me that you and a couple others were babied.
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www.newbeginningsgirlsacademy.com (http://www.newbeginningsgirlsacademy.com)
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What is your sisters name?
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Have any of you attended nbga?
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They closed the Florida home in July due to abuse charges, that is why the only New Beginnings home is the one in Missouri now.
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i was recently told that "new beginnings" was up and running in pace....
anyone confirm this??
edit...pace in florida
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When I made the page about the facility on Fornits Wiki (http://http://www.fornits.com/wiki/index.php/New_Beginnings_Girls_Academy), they had a page on their homepage stating that the florida facility was closed.
It is gone now, but they don't mention it at all.
It must be either closed or run under a different name by other people.
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NEW BEGINNINGS MINISTRIES (GIRLS ACADEMY) UPDATE
(Currently located in La Russell, Missouri, previously located in Pace, Florida, previous aliases: New Beginnings Rebekah Academy [Pace, FL] and Rebekah Home for Girls [Corpus Christi, TX])
Just so everyone knows, they did relocate to La Russell, Missouri. They still have the same administrators, Bill and Jennifer McNamara. The home that took over the old New Beginnings property in Pace, Florida is completely unaffiliated w/ New Beginnings and its directors. However, I do not have inside information as to how it operates. I know that for a certain period of time they were (and may still be going by) "Marvelous Grace Academy" at the new place in Pace. Unaffiliated, but considering that they too are U N R E G U L A T E D, who knows what's going on?
Bottom line: Don't put your kid in an unsupervised, unregulated, unlicensed home. Basically you're signing their rights AND your rights away when you do that. The US needs a MAJOR overhaul on this system. Unregulated homes for "troubled teens" has become a major industry and, truthfully, it has been for years. Find another way to help them. This will only hurt your family.
You can get updates on New Beginnings at the following sites:
www.stopNBGA.blogspot.com (http://www.stopNBGA.blogspot.com)
On Facebook groups: "NBGA: Proactive Survivors of New Beginnings Girls Academy." This is a group of 60 survivors of NBGA and their advocates.
There's also a new group out there called Surivors of Institutional Abuse: www.SIA-now.org (http://www.SIA-now.org) They have info on New Beginnings and places like it.
Check us out :)