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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Lacey on May 15, 2006, 09:53:00 AM

Title: Curious...
Post by: Lacey on May 15, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =100144848 (http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&EntryID=16905748&categoryID=0&groupID=100144848)

At the myspace board, this Sanna person (4th post down) came in to "clarify". The face look familiar to anyone? I'm just confused as to why this 40 year old is reading over the message board of HLA kids.
Title: Curious...
Post by: SHH on May 15, 2006, 10:14:00 AM
that is me, I posted that to clarify something about Bill being fired as opposed to resigning. I read that forum every once in a while and wanted to clarify that particular fact thats all. I dont want to bother them or become part of their group or anything. I already private messaged a few of them there to let them know who I was.
Title: Curious...
Post by: Lacey on May 15, 2006, 10:31:00 AM
Ok, well had you read the site more clearly, it is for HLA Alums. We had an issue a while back about ex staff posting on there and creating problems, and made it very clear that either we were going to make the site private or other people were not to post there. Plus, dont you think its a little inappropriate for a 40 year old woman to be posting on a site with all recent high school grads? The site is not for you, and I would reccommend not posting there again.  It is not your place to "clarify" our arguments.
Title: Curious...
Post by: SHH on May 15, 2006, 11:06:00 AM
Ok fine, I wont post there. That was only my 2nd post there in a year anyway. LIke I said, I wasnt trying to cause problems. But maybe if you don't like non members posting, making the site private isnt such a bad idea. Right now anybody who is a member of myspace can post there, if they want. So maybe making it private will prevent non alums from posting since it seems to be upsetting to some of you.
Title: Curious...
Post by: RobertBruce on May 15, 2006, 11:44:00 AM
The nickname Bullfrog makes so much more sense now.

You want to meet Fidel Castro?

I guess that makes sense, his style of governing isnt all that different from what you supported at HLA.

You know since youre around there are still numerous questions you never answered.

Care to knock them out?
Title: Curious...
Post by: SHH on May 15, 2006, 11:52:00 AM
I am not a communist, there is a personal reason for wanting to meet him. He saved my father's life, as much as that dismays my father. There was an incident during the bay of pigs invasion and he saved his life. I wanted to meet him for that reason, and to discuss politics with him. Not because I support him and his tyrannical ways, but because of my thoughts on Cuba's current situation.
Title: Curious...
Post by: RobertBruce on May 15, 2006, 01:14:00 PM
Oh of course, anything you say Bullfrog. Of course its just a coincidence. That's like a jew saying "I'd like to meet Hitler to discuss politics with him."

Face it you just admire his style of governing, hence why you are drawn to men associated with totalitarian schools. Its the closest you can get.

Now Im still wondering if youd like to answer those questions that have been floating around out there for you for months and months now.

Also while youre at it, who is this guy Shift? He sends you messages every day. Is your husband aware of him?
Title: Curious...
Post by: SHH on May 15, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
No, I do not condone Castro's form of government. I already typed why I thought it would be interesting to discuss politics with him. I figured maybe I could convince him to retire LMAO you know part of that list is a joke Robert. The Fidel thing is only out of curiosity. I do not admire the man whatsoever. I actually despise what he has done with Cuba. It hits really close to home because my father's family lost EVERYTHING because of him.

And as far as my friend, his name isnt Shift, and no he is not my boyfriend and yes my husband knows I am friends with him. He has a girlfriend and posts to all his other friends every day. Most of my comments from him are also to 15-20 other people. But knowing you you will find fault with any and every aspect of who I am, irregardless of what the actual facts are. But whatever, it doesnt really matter to me. You live in your world, and I live in mine.
Title: Curious...
Post by: Lacey on May 15, 2006, 01:52:00 PM
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On 2006-05-15 08:06:00, SHH wrote:

"Ok fine, I wont post there. That was only my 2nd post there in a year anyway. LIke I said, I wasnt trying to cause problems. But maybe if you don't like non members posting, making the site private isnt such a bad idea. Right now anybody who is a member of myspace can post there, if they want. So maybe making it private will prevent non alums from posting since it seems to be upsetting to some of you."


Theres a reason we decided to keep it public, and that was for easier access for Alums. Plus, the moderator of the group was in PG 43 (i think. or 46 I cant remember). Anyway. We have Alums from pg 13 and such there, and also from newer ones. How would he know if they ever went there or not, to be able to accurately dole out access. However, it is easy to tell that a middle aged women totally preoccupied with her ex-husband doesnt belong posting there. Why do you put so much effort into this HLA posting anyway? You responded pretty quickly to that girls post, which shows you read the board quite often. What is your M.O. for getting involved? The only way to feel connected to your ex-hubby perhaps?  My advice? Find a new hobby. Maybe knitting?
Title: Curious...
Post by: RobertBruce on May 15, 2006, 04:18:00 PM
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On 2006-05-15 10:35:00, SHH wrote:

"No, I do not condone Castro's form of government. I already typed why I thought it would be interesting to discuss politics with him. I figured maybe I could convince him to retire LMAO you know part of that list is a joke Robert. The Fidel thing is only out of curiosity. I do not admire the man whatsoever. I actually despise what he has done with Cuba. It hits really close to home because my father's family lost EVERYTHING because of him.



And as far as my friend, his name isnt Shift, and no he is not my boyfriend and yes my husband knows I am friends with him. He has a girlfriend and posts to all his other friends every day. Most of my comments from him are also to 15-20 other people. But knowing you you will find fault with any and every aspect of who I am, irregardless of what the actual facts are. But whatever, it doesnt really matter to me. You live in your world, and I live in mine."


Whatever you say Bullfrog, I am not interested in your lies.

I am however interested to see if you are willing to now answer the questions?
Title: Curious...
Post by: Lacey on May 16, 2006, 01:34:00 AM
Obviously not.
Title: Curious...
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2006, 10:20:00 AM
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On 2006-05-15 07:31:00, Lacey wrote:

"Ok, well had you read the site more clearly, it is for HLA Alums. We had an issue a while back about ex staff posting on there and creating problems, and made it very clear that either we were going to make the site private or other people were not to post there. Plus, dont you think its a little inappropriate for a 40 year old woman to be posting on a site with all recent high school grads? The site is not for you, and I would reccommend not posting there again.  It is not your place to "clarify" our arguments."



 ::bwahaha2::  ::bwahaha2::  ::bwahaha::  :rofl:  :rofl:
Title: Curious...
Post by: RobertBruce on May 16, 2006, 03:08:00 PM
Amazing how she always shuts up whenever you she has no room to dodge the question.

We should try this more often.
Title: Curious...
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2006, 10:50:00 AM
does anyone else see how pathetic it is that she doesnt even work for HLA anymore yet has nothing better to do than to patrol alumni boards and "clarify" arguements.
get a fucking life. who has a myspace at 40 anyway? you are a loser and its hilarious. how does it feel to know that graduates from the corrupt school you worked for and still obsess over are doing better at 22 than you have with your whole life?


dan pg26


ps. it can now be confirmed that you are one ugly fucking heffer.
Title: Curious...
Post by: SHH on May 17, 2006, 10:54:00 AM
Dan, what makes you think that only people under 25 have a myspace? I personally know of 25 people over 35 who have one. Whether or not I have a page is none of your business. Whether or not you think I am ugly is also none of my concern. You are in your 20s, I dont expect you to find a 40 yr old woman atractive nor do I want you to. Those pics are of me, and my son and mother. They are for my friends. And what I clarified was that Bill wasnt fired, he resigned. That was it. I dont care what else they have to say, on here or there. I only wanted to clarify that one thing. And trust me, my life is far from pathetic. Im very proud of my career, my son, and my accomplishments. What you think about those things is completely irrelevant.
Title: Curious...
Post by: RobertBruce on May 17, 2006, 11:11:00 AM
Right so getting back to those questions youre to afraid to answer.

Any chance now Susie?
Title: Curious...
Post by: Lacey on May 17, 2006, 02:37:00 PM
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On 2006-05-17 07:54:00, SHH wrote:

"Dan, what makes you think that only people under 25 have a myspace? I personally know of 25 people over 35 who have one. Whether or not I have a page is none of your business. Whether or not you think I am ugly is also none of my concern. You are in your 20s, I dont expect you to find a 40 yr old woman atractive nor do I want you to. Those pics are of me, and my son and mother. They are for my friends. And what I clarified was that Bill wasnt fired, he resigned. That was it. I dont care what else they have to say, on here or there. I only wanted to clarify that one thing. And trust me, my life is far from pathetic. Im very proud of my career, my son, and my accomplishments. What you think about those things is completely irrelevant."


Ok, so you jumped at the chance to defend your looks, the fact that you have a myspace account, and that you only clarified ONE thing (which doesnt really make you look much better, considering the amount of posts you had to have read to clarify that ONE thing must have been alot).

Why cant you JUMP at the chance to answer my questions? They weren't rhetorical, and I'm waiting...
Title: Curious...
Post by: RobertBruce on May 17, 2006, 04:00:00 PM
To do that Susie would need to have a spine.

As we all know Bullfrogs have no spines.

She is weak and afraid, expect nothing from her but her tired old rhetoric.
Title: Curious...
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2006, 07:03:00 PM
i personally find it laughable when people of your age sign up for a site clearly not geared towards your...to put it nicely, age demographic. cameron diaz is almost forty. as is catherine zeta jones. age and looks have an iffy at best correlation. if you care so little, why would you have hopped on the site twice to "clarify" things. Nobody wants to hear what you have to say, the truth comes out whether a bullfrog is there to croak it out or not. just shut up, fuck the hell off, and leave that board to the alumni.
Title: Curious...
Post by: SHH on May 17, 2006, 07:53:00 PM
I will make sure I tell those 20-30 people over 35 that I know have Myspace pages that they shouldnt have them because of their "age demographic". I never said I was beautiful, gorgeous or even pretty. Dan decided to call me ugly. I never brought looks into this equation. I dont care anything about looks. I dont even think Im good looking. Hell I didnt even post on here my statement to begin with. I posted on that Myspage page. It was Lacey who decided to drag it onto here. It was Dan, Robert, Lacey, and the 3 or 4 other individuals who decided to slam my statement, looks, basically my very existance. I have only posted on that myspace site twice over the past 8 or 9 months. ONce was about a kid who died that I had some info on. Another was to defend something stated that wasnt true about my son's father. Neither time have I insulted, harassed, or otherwise done anything offensive to anybody on that board. They were the ones who decided to private message insults to me over that post and insult me on here. I have no interest in carrying this ridiculous argument any further. I have no interest in engaging in useless bickering over a single post on a PUBLIC website(if you want nobody else to post, make it private), and I have no interest in discussing HLA currently. Youll have to continue this pointless insult fest without me.
Title: Curious...
Post by: Lacey on May 17, 2006, 09:46:00 PM
In ALL of that indignant bullshit you just regurgitated on this thread, you STILL managed to dodge the issue. So you can sell yourself to be as victimized as you want but, still... You've said NOTHING of value. So I guess I'll just have to let my questions go unanswered.
Title: Curious...
Post by: RobertBruce on May 17, 2006, 10:11:00 PM
AMEN!!!!

Bullfrog whenever you decide to come down off the cross and discuss the issues that really matter we'll be here.

Let us know.

Until then the questions put to you remain unanswered due to your own ignorance and cowardice.
Title: Curious...
Post by: Deborah on May 18, 2006, 12:00:00 AM
Suzanne,
Every house has a door. Doesn't mean you walk up and let yourself in- that's trespassing. You wait for an invite or you ask to be invited.

The invitation reads:
If you or someone you know attended Hidden Lake Academy then socialize, post and have fun!

Remember: "we went through it together and together we shall overcome."

1 year and counting
~~~

You technically qualify, but I don't think you made the cut due to extenuating circumstances. Did that surprise you, really?

You had a couple of options- message the moderator and ask permission to post or ask him to address the 'error'.

The fact that none of this occured to you is the issue... IMO.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#196399 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=15476&forum=41&start=0#196399)
Title: Curious...
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
Wow, you like to argue about as much as your mother does.
Title: Curious...
Post by: SHH on May 18, 2006, 02:14:00 PM
Who's mother?
Title: Curious...
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2006, 03:54:00 PM
And yet still she refuses to address the issue.

Suzanne have you always been such a coward?
Title: Curious...
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2006, 04:11:00 PM
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On 2006-05-18 11:14:00, SHH wrote:

"Who's mother?"


"Lacey's"
Title: Curious...
Post by: Lacey on May 19, 2006, 09:54:00 AM
My mother doesnt want to argue. My moms kinda messed up from all this, and shit in her own life. Just because what she wrote was confusing and long winded and most people had no idea what she was saying, doesn't mean she just wanted to argue. She just wants someone to hear her side. Given, the way in which she tries to accomplish this isn't always appropriate, but oh well.

Me? I'm just not comfortable with a 40 yr old ex wife of a corrupt staff member, going onto the Alumni group of the place that staff worked at, and thinking it would be ok to post there. How did she THINK she was going to be welcomed? How were we supposed to react? Many of those kids are merely months out of HLA and out of the lying, manipulation, and excuse me, but mind-fucking that they probably were put through for well over 20 months. I'm not here to argue whether it actually happened or not, or the technicalities of the circumstances at HLA which it all happened. Whether its real or not, its real to THEM. And it is still VERY very raw. So yes, I do feel it is worth addressing to keep the peace and and safe environment of our Alum group. Because it is those higher-ups like the one SHH chose to defend in our group, that represents to us the most corrupt of all. The ones they saw rolling up in Jags, and the lawns they picked clear of leaves who lived on campus.  Making their millions off the parents, and off of our difficulties in life.

So think what you want, Anon, about my reasons for raising this issue.
Title: Curious...
Post by: Deborah on May 19, 2006, 10:14:00 AM
Lacey,
Your mom is welcome to post here anytime, and tell her story any way she chooses. Those who are not interested have the option of scrolling past.

Trolls will frequently attack a poster in hopes of silencing them. They should be ignored. There are others who are interested in the 'long winded' details of other's experiences.

She is not the first divorced parent who didn't support a placement and whose rights were trampled. Others need to be aware that many programs will collude with the placing parent in limiting the other parent's contact with their child.

My story is very similar to your mom's. This aspect of the industry needs to be exposed.
Title: Curious...
Post by: MightyAardvark on May 19, 2006, 10:18:00 AM
I guess it's no help now but there are people out there who are capable and willing to push that issue.

Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.

--Mark Twain

Title: Curious...
Post by: Deborah on May 19, 2006, 10:30:00 AM
MA,
Are you refering to a parent placing without the other's knowledge and/or permission?

In all the cases I am aware of, the opposing parent had to take the matter up with family court- a violation of the court ordered rights. Depends on the judge, and the effectiveness of the TBS to convince the judge that the child needs their 'treatment'.

A few have been successful in having their child removed, many have not. Instead they found themselves in lengthy custody battles, running into the tens of thousands of dollars, and not resolved before the child 'graduates'.

The opposing parent should have a more timely recourse.