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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / What came first...
« on: May 12, 2002, 12:05:00 AM »
...Straight or Cedu? Can anyone tell me which year Straight was begun?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / To any former Seedlings out there
« on: May 09, 2002, 11:40:00 AM »
Last weekend at BayFest in St Pete i ran into someone who's older brother was in the seed in St Pete.It brought back alot of memories about the program(alot negative)and the others in the program with me(many positive).What was disturbing was that night i had a very vivid dream(nightmare)about being back on the front row,and getting "stood up" and being the topic of a "come down" rap!Not a good place to be if u know what i mean.Can anyone relate? I thought i'd put that stuff way behind me.Anyone out there know what i'm talking about? Just shows what an impact mind control can have esp on kids.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Kids of EP?
« on: May 05, 2002, 12:57:00 AM »
Hey Kim-
What's up with the El Paso site?  I can't get to it, I get the "this page can't be displayed" thing.  I know it's been a while since I've been on, but whats up?

-Glenda

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well this has been interesting, i saw the "1st & 2nd" message boards and left a message there, but i guess its not used much anymore. anyways it is vary cool to here from everyone that i remember from kids. this is mike avery by the way. how is everyone, it soundes like most of ya all are good. me too i am doing really well. i know that these sites are more for biching about kids and whatnot... but, i have alot of really cool memories about kids. (ya gota have in mind that i was litte kid from calgary alberta that got yo live in or next to NYC for 7 years). this is not an opertunaty that alot of canadians have had. i am not trying to under cut you all that have alot of nagitive feelings towards kids... i dont blame you at all for what you feel. there are alot of people and things i miss from that time. being canadian i vary vary much miss the long and vary hot summers. our summer is about 2 months shorter. and not nearly as warm. some of the freindships i made there are priceless... eh "B", (to "B"... im trying to e-mail you and dont know if ive got the right addy). sorry i dont wont to leave my addy here. no offence but you know... so i cant quite figure out who alot of you are and i dont remember alot of you, but it is absalutly fasinating to here from your own mouths where your at. i thought i would just wright once and leave these sights alone, but ceriosity keeps drawing me back. well this is getting to become a letter. but whatever, im at work right know and theres nothin more fun then wasting time. let me see.. as for my self i work in socal work as well (seemes to be a common theam with ex staff) i work at a homeless shelter as a counsollor. and i realy enjoy it. i just got a mac computer at home and am working on learnig the photoshop, maya, dreamweaver and some other stuff that im pritty cluless about, but am learning..  hopefully i will get into some kind of graphics work. but im not there yet. since ive been home ive got into punk rock music and tattoos. i have about 8 tatties. i have a vary cool girly friend, we have been seeing eachother for almost 3 years. uuumm what elts, i enjoy being a socal drinker, going to a patio on a hot day and having a cuple pints. i am into mountan biking, ive got a double suspention GT bike and love it alot. so i dont know what elts to tell ya all. i dont have alot of resentments about that time and i think that i learnes alot from that time. yes no dought that alot of what happened was bull shit but i can let it roll of my back. life is an experiance to be experianced. alot of people have had it worse. so brothers and sisters, peace all...mike

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / test
« on: April 21, 2002, 03:00:00 PM »

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Hello, Sorry, Goodbye
« on: April 17, 2002, 01:35:00 PM »
Hello everyone,
     I have been a little uneasy since a friend told me about this site.  To say the least, it's been unsettling. Anyways, after much contemplation I felt obligated to write at least once.
     I was outside today piling up some wood I chopped from a tree that fell down in my yard. I started thinking about Kids and about a newcomer who came to the building on a beautiful day. After leaving his host dad's car he started counting and reached about 12 when he walked into the building. He then stated, "Well that's how much sunshine I'm gonna get today". When I was working in the yard (it's beautiful out today) I started counting. I reached about a thousand (counting slowly) before I drifted off.  After a while I started counting again and reached around six hundred before I drifted off. I am truly grateful.
     Since leaving Kids I play in a band, drink cheap bourbon, am covered from head to toe with tattoos and shoot up smack. Well, at least the band part is true but I made up the rest to sound cool. If you read Larry G's "time to feed the baby post" you probably know who I am.
     I've been married for several years to a smart, sexy business woman and I am still doing social work but a lot differently than I was at Kids. My wife knows very little about the program except that it was tough, extensive and overcontrolling. How do you explain to someone about motivitating (busting your ass) with all your energy to get called on for a song like "You are My Sunshine" before you get grabbed on the beltloop by an oldcomer who takes you to the line for liver patte sandwiches and several unrecgnizable globs of nutrient, which upon returning to your seat you eat with a spork as slowly as possible because you do not want to get called on for being sat down (slammed) in morning rap, and when you finish your meal you stash your spork down your pants so you can; A) Try to use it as a tool to get out of your oldcomer's house in the middle of the night, B) Carve druggie rock songs in your arm (the most popular choice or C) Stab whoever you don't like or is in your way. By the way, thanks Todd L. - I now have stories to tell my future grandchildren about how I survived a spork attack committed by an angry, desperate, broken boy/man/prisoner (what is it exactly that we were at the time). I'm not at all bitter - it's kind of funny now in a pathetic way. You probably understand (although you might not agree) why I don't go into the details with my wife.
    Life is good. I also have a nice house, two cars in the driveway - everything except the picket fence, but this is not the real reason I'm writing.
     I have been a part of every Kids Program - Hackensack, El Paso, California, Salt Lake and finally back to North Jersey.
I did not have a very long program (Thank God I didn't come in five years later) so most of the time (over 6 years) I spent on staff and some of that time was as a clinical. The real reason I am writing is because after talking to friend who was in the program and on staff, I realized (God, it sounds like I'm trying out for T and R) that there were a lot of people I mistreated.  I am writing for the purely selfish reason of relieving my conscience and hoping this haunted feeling I had when I came to this sight will go away. I apologize to everyone I sat back, confronted wrongly, humiliated, had the group mock, did not give my mother's cake to because they didn't earn talk and generally mistreated. There are two many evils to list. This is what I feel worst about and I am sorry.
     I also would not worry about BM or as he calls himself, "winner". I believe both of those names are misleading and Erin B. would kick Bob M's ass if she caught him at a website with copouts. It may be Drew G, Tony K or it may not even be a graduate who is on "good standing".  Most of us had his frame of mind at some point or another and maybe it makes him feel better. I wouldn't take their assaults to personally but you can do whatever you want - isn't that a great feeling. On a side note I am sure fartogone is not Mike O. and I doubt it's Tom S. I'm not sure who it is and haven't really looked into it because like he said, it doesn't matter.
     I know just about ever one of the names except those who were in New Jersey the years I was in El Paso/California/Salt Lake City. I am sure you have figured out who I am by now, And if you didn't someone can tell you.  Congratulations Craig and Christy - hey Craig, do you sill listen to Run DMC. Keep on drumming J. I hope no one is offended if I don't write back. Love ya Group

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / CBS West 57th St. 1989
« on: April 16, 2002, 08:27:00 PM »
Does anyone have the tape of the CBS show that this refrence talks about.  Id be happy to make copies for others as well.


" Twice Bergen County prosecutors escorted clients out of KBC. In 1989 CBS's West 57th Street aired a damaging segment on KBC. Former staff member Ch***ty Jo****on said Newton told a staff member, "Bring her in her and scare her and if she hits you, hit her back." She says they wound up rolling on the ground with Newton saying, "I'll turn my back." T**y Mit****e's  hospital records show he was bleeding from the scalp and having blurred vision after being dropped on  his head during a rap. When  he became an adult T**y left KBC, but later staff member T**y Kozak*****z was arrested for trying to kidnap T**y back into the program. According to former staff member Ch***ty Jo****on, charges were dropped after KIDS promised T**y Mi****le that it would never take him back if he promised not to press charges. In 1988 Larry Clay a legal adult in his home state of Texas, was led out of KBC by an FBI agent with a subpoena. In August 1990 (after the West 57th Street report on KBC) 20 county officials descended upon Kids of Bergen County questioning kids about abuse."

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 48 Hours
« on: April 15, 2002, 12:12:00 PM »
Well, did anyone watch "48 hours" this weekend?  It addressed two unsolved murders and covered the Moxley case.  There was one segment regarding the confession at Elan along with coverage that showed the school, an interview with Joe Ricci, and other (former) staff members.  Interesting.
 
There was also a murder confession by a Canadian psycho in the syn-op I was in (86-89) but I guess because the guy was assumed to be crazy and because he wasn't relative to a powerful family like the Kennedy family, nothing was ever done.  Shame.
Unregistered User Me

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I'm sorry though this takes the cake. I don't know how many folks are aware of the  Martha Moxley murder trial? Martha Moxley .com will get you there .The fellow accused of this act is a former resident of Elan back in 1978,a Michael Skakel (I was in Elan from 74 to 76 ) I did not know Skakel though I heard about the confession through the grapevine in '79 .(this is not the funny part .)

This is :There was a twisted (in my opinion)
sick perverted old boy there when I was there, K. Zaretsky who was an assistant director of a house in waterford .This fellow has the on line Elan game going at Elan Alum .com .

On this web site he has posted a NOTE to the Press and other interested parties.If you want to read something outragously funny you might want to check this little note out.

Keep in mind that this old boy has given interviews all over the place ,newspapers ,October issue of Details ,
he is even quoted in the book Duck Wore A Raincoat  by Maura Curley . And of course he censors his site .Keep in mind his interviews do not even begin to approach the lunacy ,the brutality ,and the pain both physical as well as emotional that went on in Elan

In my opinion K. Zaretsky is a true pathological sociopath to the Nth degree .His little NOTE to the Press proves my point . Anways I found it to be most funny ,what a dingaling.


Matt

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Props to Tony
« on: April 07, 2002, 12:32:00 PM »
At koep bbs for the "Fr. Cashin" reference...
Unregistered User Me

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / to much energy
« on: April 04, 2002, 07:39:00 PM »
i was in kids for 37 months and for 10 years after that it was his fault ... i could do no wrong . i was entitled to what ever i wanted ..it was his fault until i realized that there is a whole planet of people who have had really bad things happen to them .. that i was able to move on with my life. you are right i wasted 10 years thinking of that FUCKER and if i ever run into him >>> i will puch him in his mouth ... and not even think about it .. and there are a few who know i do what i say ... and i am what i am and im move in on life is to short to spend and devote all the time the webmistress does .. not to say she feels better and has helped people connect in this place of darkness ... god bless

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Feel like writing a letter??
« on: April 02, 2002, 07:31:00 PM »
NEWTON, VIRGIL M III; NEWTON, RUTH A (Husband and Wife); Owner Occupied

Mailing Address: 13253 BOCA CIEGA AVE, MADEIRA BEACH, FL 33708-2441

Property Address: 13253 BOCA CIEGA AVE, MADEIRA BEACH, FL 33708-2441

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Kids of BC or North Jersey
« on: April 02, 2002, 06:18:00 PM »
Does anyone know where I might find some actual video or news video archives from Kids of BC or North Jersey?

Thanks

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Dr Fr Newton whoever the F#C*
« on: April 01, 2002, 01:23:00 AM »
This guy is taking up WAY too much of your energy!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / My Lady
« on: March 25, 2002, 02:06:00 PM »
It grows increasingly difficult to view the most recent posts to the bbs when ladyjerricho comments on each and every post so frequently.  I do not want to at all discourage ladyjericho from posting her thoughts, feelings, or opinions on whatever topic she wishes.  However, I do want to let her know that the reply to a six month old post only fools other readers into believing that there is current discussion on that specific topic in this forum.  I am easily losing track of current discussion due to lady's frequent blanket posts across the board on each topic.  It is hard to read anything other than her posts!  Again, I do not wish to discourage anyone's posts but I do wish to have the easy access to current topical information that this board used to afford it's readers.

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