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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight medical neglect stories???
« on: July 27, 2002, 11:24:00 AM »
I am curious. SAFE has a staffer (counselor)named MS Beasley, I saw her at the protest on June 12. Which means she is still on staff.  Wondering if this is the one and same. She was in STARIGHT. She is tall, large frammed lady.

Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / We need your help
« on: July 26, 2002, 11:30:00 PM »
If anyone form SAFE is fearful of being found out ,just post anonymously. No one will be much the wiser. SAFE is in under some tense times right now. So now is the time to voice your story. They can not harm you anymore, do not let fear that they so readly instill, keep you from opening up.

We are here to help you. You will be heard and supported and know that many of us have been where you are today. We understand.

Talk to us or Ginger and I will have to continue having an ongoing two way post/reply.

Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Open Meeting
« on: July 20, 2002, 11:49:00 PM »
Just wondering if SAFE has changed as Brian Seeber has stated, can the public attend open meetings? Help me to understand why the public  can not go into OPEN meetings. And most of the visotrs are escorted out before MIC TALKS began, why is that?

I often wondered if this was such a fantastic program, why wasn't there waiting lists. In any qualified true, honest drug rehabs there is usually a wating list. Why are parents asked to donate money, why are they asked to recruit clients, why about half are from Maryland and out of state?

Also if this is a loving program why can't parents love their child? Instead they are asked to berate, humiliate and bring their child to tears in front of others. The angrier the parent gets in the MIC TALKS the better the praise they receive afterwards.

ANd if the parent did not get angry enough, that parent got stood up and reamed from the group and commenced parents. I for one would never scream and yell at my when he was sick. Imagine your child puking and you yell and scream, I am sure that would stop the puking right? Or if he had a fever of 102, and I would scream  it would bring it back to normal. Then when I was done screaming and the child was brought ot tears I would say "Luv you".

Joe's Apartment / Lets Rock
« on: July 07, 2002, 10:29:00 AM »
Hello it is a

Protest at SAFE INC JULY 12

4:15-5:00 A social meeting ground at
      3700 S. Orange Blossom Trail
      Orlando, Fl
      Tee-Shirts available for $15
      Printed flyers will be given out

5:00-5:15-Caravan down to SAFE. It is about
          a 2 minute drive from Dennys
          SAFE Inc
          4563 S. Orange Blossom Trail
          Orlando, Fl 32839

We want a successful but peaceful protest. Now is the time for the Surviovrs to yell and get the anger out. But please try to refrain from profanities, the kids in SAFE will be able to hear you. Be an example, let the kids know that you are there for them and share your stories. Let them know they have support if they want to book.

Do not attack the parents, they are clueless to what is happening behind the closed doors. Our purpose is to educate them and make ourselves approacable if they chose to talk to any of us. This is one of our goals.

Get your signs ready and perhaps an extra for the supporter who walks on. If you can not make the social at Dennys please just head down to SAFE.

If I was computer savvy I would have attached maps but COULDN'T.

LETS CLOSE THE DOORS TO HELL and save the kids.


Joe's Apartment / Handout for July 12th protest
« on: July 05, 2002, 04:49:00 PM »
Thanks Ginger! We definitly will use it of course havee to make some changes. I would like to make folks aware of the now conferences & SAFETY.NET and the lawsuit aginst SAFE.

We want to copy the WAMI video of SAFE and have it ready to hand out, can anyone help with this? ANd signs signs signs. We will make up some but if everyone could make one for themselve and an extra maybe for the unexpected supporters.

Again it is July 12at SAFE in Orlando. A map & directions will be posted soon. Sammie, Kim M, and I are meeting tonight to try and put the icing on. Parents are to arrive at SAFE at 6:00 p.m. They start strolling in around 5:30 a few before but not many.

Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Please forgive me
« on: July 03, 2002, 05:13:00 AM »
Thanks to all of you. You have helped immensley. Yes I was told "He would die" if I didn't get him in ASAP. What parent can cope with that statement? I was lied to when I asked questions before we set off for the looney bin.

Joe's Apartment / July 12 is a DEFINITE GO
« on: June 30, 2002, 11:20:00 PM »
Just a reminder that the July 12 picket is a SHHHHHHH. The July 18 picket will be announced by Wes publicly (am I correct here Wes).

Thus SAFE will know we will be there the 18 and more than likely cancel all activities, not certain but I would highly suspect so or at the very least get the commenced and current parents out there for pro-SAFE.

They will be expecting us on the 18. The July 12 protest will catch them with their pants down. Always the threat of a leak but we will try our darndest to keep the lid tight.

Joe's Apartment / July 12 is a DEFINITE GO
« on: June 30, 2002, 11:02:00 PM »
I am sorry there was confusion about the dates. After much discussion yes we are going to picket July 12 &13 and again on July 18. I plan to be there for all of the mentioned dates.

July 12 is especially important as that is Parent weekend SAFE will have more activity.Parents are due back agin on Saturday morning and time varies I am trying to find that out now. When I was there it was at 9:00a.m. Give everyone time to wake up & shake out the the cobwebs.  Rich has stated his friends will support us also on the 12. So please send on your comments to Kim about slogans and ideas. Time is not on her side. Thanks Kim.

Joe's Apartment / Friday July 12,(?) SAFE INC
« on: June 30, 2002, 03:12:00 PM »
Until the date is concrete, I want to just update on what I have learned thus far. Sammie is incredible. She is looking into a potential bus so we can all ride together up to SAFE and for group rates on hotels for those who want to stay over and picket perhaps the next day. But I am still leaning toward also July 12 so we can get to the parents.

Kim M has offered to have T-shirts printed up. Costs is not set yet are looking anywhere between $10-$15. The proceds Kim can explain more to you. Kim can you please post what you wrote me it was great info. about the Shirts. What a great plan, Kim thanks so much.

And with that comes what do we have printed? One slogan so that it is recognized nationally, and what would that slogan be. Or do we want specific slogans for specific protests. I think a national slogan worn at any protest would be the more postive way to get our cause & name out there.

And for any of the picketers please let that coordinator of that area know if you plan to be there so we can get a head count. I am one of the coordinators targeted at SAFE in Orlando. Also Wes, maybe we should send out a list of the coordinators for each site.

I for one want to picket both July 12 & 18.

Where is the spell check? I failed typing class. bb

Joe's Apartment / Thursday, July 18th, other locations?
« on: June 30, 2002, 02:22:00 PM »
We had a tentative date set for the picket at SAFE in Orlando on July 12, it is parent weekend, parents are manadated to be there unless the can't open their coffins. Meaning the out of town parents should be ther also. Our goal it one to close the doors down of these places naturally, but secondly until that time happens  to inform the parents of the abuse that is going on behind those closed doors. But if July 18th is set as the national protest, should we wait or is anyone with me on being there for both weekends, I have no problem being there on July 12 and July 18.

Joe's Apartment / Friday July 12,(?) SAFE INC
« on: June 30, 2002, 02:15:00 PM »
I have a question here should we wait for the SAFE picket on July 18th?  We were going to schedule July 12 at SAFE because it is Parent weekend and more parents will be in town as that is a mandatory weekend for them to be there. I would like you thought son this before we make July 12 a definite date.

Joe's Apartment / progress
« on: June 28, 2002, 06:31:00 PM »
Just a brief update. Hotels are being looked into where out of state parents stay and also for guests who want to do an overnighter. Sam is looking into group rates. I for one am planning on it as I would like to go back in the A.M. when the parents have to become clients and lineup outside.

Also tossing around transportation up, all going together. We are tying to get a preliminary head count.

The Seed Discussion Forum / OUTRAGEOUS
« on: June 28, 2002, 12:00:00 PM »
I just caught walked in on a report on Tampa news last night regarding mandatory drug testing. They had interviewed students and a parent. Of course all was pro mandattory drug testing.The students are so innocent they do not even have a clue how a right has been taken from them.

Joe's Apartment / Welcome
« on: June 27, 2002, 04:45:00 PM »
Ginger you are the best.

Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Knighted
« on: June 26, 2002, 09:10:00 PM »
I was knighted moderator. So  please be gentle with me.

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