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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Pelta on November 12, 2005, 07:14:00 PM
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BS"D
1. If you hate HLA and think it's worthless, ridiculous, etc., the parents and staff and anybody who really matters in changing HLA (i.e. improving it or not sending kids there) could really care less what you post on this board.
2. If you think HLA is some miracle that saved you and could've saved all of these people you may deem less mature, nobody cares about you posting here either. You're getting the above mentioned people pissed and that's all you're accomplishing.
Reminisce if you want, but arguing about how helpful HLA could have been isn't going to change anyone's opinions.
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damn pelta... people are just posting stuff, dicussing, debating, etc. not to be an ass to you or anything, cuz you really are a madd chill guy, but who are you to deem this board worthless??
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Pelta "CARROT TOP" SHut the hell up for real
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Why are you talking shit to Pelta? He was just giving his opinion; even though I don't agree with it, it's still just as valid as anyone else's.
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Aften where is your life u check and reply every fuckin day get a FUCKIN LIFE LEAVE YOUR HOUSE damn dawg forreall you trippin Hard hahahhahaha Fuck you Pelta and yall
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kc - where u at nigga
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right here nigga who this
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i do live my life, and leave my house quite often. it just so happens that i get online when i am at home. i spend much of my time with my wonderful partner, and that of which i do not spend with her, i am usually either in class, or studying... so, before you go and try to tell people to get a life, maybe you should re-evaluate your own. what do you get out of putting other people down? is your life really so miserable that you have to get pleasure out of making belittling comments to others? maybe in all actuality you are the one that needs to get a life... because i have a verry satisfactory one, that i am very happy with.
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u know me kc - i know u. i'm not at hla no more, but i just happened upon this site and seen how u were trashing hla so much. u brought it all on u self asshole. u were a piece of shit suck up who narced on friends for ur own good - i've seen u do it. the only reason u hate hla so much is because u didn't fit in and people knew u were fake. so, get a life and move on. ur not there now so go on and be happy dickweed.
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I agree with the response above mine here... the people that trash HLA the most are the ones that have harsh feelings towards it, due to their own behaviors while there
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ty aften
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your very welcome dear
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With all due respect, what are you accomplishing? You're getting people who are angry at each other more angry...
insulting me and questioning my character so as to dispove reasons that I can...what, suggest you find better ways to spend your time than arguing back and forth about how helpful or evil HLA was? G-d forbid! I for one am not going to come here any more (so if you reply to this with another insult, despite how manly it'll make you look, I'm not reading it) but just wanted to give y'all a heads-up...
YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME!
Oh, yeah, and for future reference...cursing at people gets your point across really well and changes your acquaintences' minds. It also makes you look like a bigger person.
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Aften my dear, again you make assumptions and pretend things you could not possibly know.
How do you know how those of who are anti-HLA behaved while we were there? Have you been a student there the entire what 12 years its been open? Do you personally know every single student and every single poster on this board?
No you do not, thus you cannot know how we acted while at HLA. Nor does your theory explain the reactions of former staff members or parents who all have problems with HLA.
You really should stick to talking about things you know, which as I understand isnt much but still.
Oh and Pelta, some of us are working to inform any parents who might mistakenly send there kids there, but Im curious if the powers that be at HLA dont care about what we are posting here, why are they working so hard to silence us?
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Robert, you don't know what i know, and what i don't... so, then again, maybe you dear, should stick to talking about what you actually know... just an idea...
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On 2005-11-13 11:37:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"Robert, you don't know what i know, and what i don't... so, then again, maybe you dear, should stick to talking about what you actually know... just an idea..."
:grin: Are you going to claim that you know every single student who ever attended HLA and how each and every one acted while there? Not unless you want to claim you were a staff member. Perhaps one that sent out report cards?
Face facts, you either lied about having been a student or you dont know what youre talking about with your generalities.
So yes I do know for a fact that you dont know the things I claimed you dont know.
Accept that, or change your story.
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No, i was not there for every student, obviously, but yes, i do know how the general population of students act while there... every single person there got exactly what was deserved, whether ornot they would like to admit it... again, i believe that you need to re-evaluate the situation, as well as how you look at yourself.
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On 2005-11-13 13:22:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"No, i was not there for every student, obviously, but yes, i do know how the general population of students act while there... every single person there got exactly what was deserved, whether ornot they would like to admit it... again, i believe that you need to re-evaluate the situation, as well as how you look at yourself."
If you dont know every single student how can you know how every single student acted while there?
If you dont know every single student how can you know their story?
If you don't know their story how can you know whether or not they needed to be there?
If you dont know if they needed to be there how can you know if they got what they deserved?
Do always make such grand assumptions about people youve never met and know nothing about? Thats not really a positive attribute honey.
Also how can you tell me I need to re-evaluate the situation and look at myself when you yourself know almost nothing about me other than the fact that I was at HLA and I didnt like it.
Are you sure you were never a staff member there? You sound an awful lot like one. Making generalities and assumptions based on nothing, and refusing to admit when wrong, lashing out in order to avoid that simple and undeniable fact.
You are wrong, you dont know every inmate and you dont know how they all acted. You dont know if they deserved to be there or if they even needed to be there. You dont know how every inmate was treated there, and you dont know the situation, and of course you dont know me or anything about either my time at HLA or what Ive done since then.
Face it.
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No, i do not know every student's case there, but i do know that every student does throw a big pity party for themself, and they do blame everyone else for their own problems... that is the reality of the situation.
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On 2005-11-13 14:14:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"No, i do not know every student's case there, but i do know that every student does throw a big pity party for themself, and they do blame everyone else for their own problems... that is the reality of the situation."
Again you make assumptions and generalities.
If you didnt know every student how can you know each and every one threw a pity party?
If you didnt know every student how can you know each and every one blamed others for their problems?
If you didnt know every student how can you claim that your assesment is the reality of the situation?
This is the same line of thinking counsolers used. Making assumptions and guesses without ever getting the facts first or even bothering to ask.
And Mrs. Gray wants to claim things have changed. [ This Message was edited by: RobertBruce on 2005-11-13 14:18 ]
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And facts are what I am getting.. you are re-affirming every belief that i have... obviously you are on the defense.
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On 2005-11-13 14:23:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"And facts are what I am getting.. you are re-affirming every belief that i have... obviously you are on the defense."
Am I now? Thats funny because Im not the one whos having to defend my comments.
You are.
Again Buchi has trained you well...your circular nonsensical logic training is nearly complete.
But lets see where your drivel takes us (Im guessing back into that corner you were to begin with). You havent learned any new facts concerning me, nor have you learned any new facts concerning the other many many students whom you never knew and have made generalizations and assumptions concerning.
Since this is the case how can you now claim that your belifes are being re-affirmed? Re-affirmed based on what?
On nothing.
Face facts, you dont know me or any of the other students that youre making claims about. You dont know us, nor do you know anything about us.
Since this is the case you have no facts on which to base your claims, simply your own deluded conjectures, assumptions, and things youve been told to believe, the situation remains the same:
You made a stupid comment you cant back up.
Typical HLA staff behavior.
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funny that i act like so much of an HLA staff member... considering that i am not... you are so typical; self-absorebed, only looking to yourself for fact, knowing only jaded beliefs...
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Hmmmm you make a series of statements claiming you know something you cannot possibly know.
Claiming things about people youve never met and will likely never know.
You cant back up the statements so you seek to avoid the subject and line of questioning by using the same tired rhetoric I shot down years ago from your predescesors.
Yet through all this Im somehow self absorbed and jaded?
Care to back these comments up or are you just going to move on from them as quickly as the ones before?
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RB,
It's pointless... aften is thoroughly brainwashed.
Aften you said:
every single person there got exactly what was deserved, whether ornot they would like to admit it...
That is absolutely false. I resent your attempt to whitewash and minimize what happened to others.
Why were you there? For how long?
Who placed you?
What was the longest time you were on restriction?
Did you eat the 'restriction' diet of cheese and white bread sandwiches?
Do you feel it's therapeutic to severe contact with the outside world, including parents, and provide no access to a public phone for reporting abuse?
Did your counselors ever lie to your parents?
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So, you were 'booted'.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =50#147317 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12565&forum=41&start=50#147317)
By whom? For what? At what level?
You sound like the model participant. Hard to imagine why they might toss you.
Did you get along with your peers? The 'general population' at HLA who 'deserved what they got'?
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i will state yet again, i was not "booted" rather withdrawn. just wanted to clear that up...
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On 2005-11-13 20:37:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"i will state yet again, i was not "booted" rather withdrawn. just wanted to clear that up..."
right cause thats what matters. So are you going to get back to your comments that you cant back up or just hope we all forget you ever made them?
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Why are you being such a contentious person? What comments would you like for me to back up?? and no, i don't hope that you've just forgotten all my comments, because obviously they had some effect on you, or you would just let it go.
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Youre right they did have an effect on me. I find them to be hysterical, and I view them as evidence that youve been brainwashed. I mean since youre simply repeating the rhetoric youve been told to say that would be a logical concluscion would it not?
I would like for you to back up your claims that you know how every student behaved while at HLA.
I would like for you to back up your claim that every student there threw a pity party and blamed all of their problems on other people.
I would like for you to back up your claim that every student there got what they deserved.
I would like for you to back up your claim that every student there needed to be there.
I would like for you to explain how you can know such things without having been at HLA the entire time its been open.
Simply having staff members get fired because they entered into a lesbian relationship with you does not constitute you being given inside information, nor does your current relationship with the Buch. Remember you claimed you dont talk to Buchi and your lesbo friends werent there the whole time nor did they have constant contact with all the students, nor were they there the entire time.
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On 2005-11-14 09:26:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Youre right they did have an effect on me. I find them to be hysterical, and I view them as evidence that youve been brainwashed. I mean since youre simply repeating the rhetoric youve been told to say that would be a logical concluscion would it not?
I would like for you to back up your claims that you know how every student behaved while at HLA.
I was by no means in any type of lesbian relationship with any staff member while i was there... what kind of bullshit are you leading yourself to believe?
I would like for you to back up your claim that every student there threw a pity party and blamed all of their problems on other people.
I would like for you to back up your claim that every student there got what they deserved.
I would like for you to back up your claim that every student there needed to be there.
I would like for you to explain how you can know such things without having been at HLA the entire time its been open.
Simply having staff members get fired because they entered into a lesbian relationship with you does not constitute you being given inside information, nor does your current relationship with the Buch. Remember you claimed you dont talk to Buchi and your lesbo friends werent there the whole time nor did they have constant contact with all the students, nor were they there the entire time. "
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ummm what was the point of reposting my own comment without commenting on it yourself?
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apparently my words did not show up, for some reason...
what kind of facts to you have to boast that i was in a lesbian relationship with one of the staff members? i most certainly was not, in any way at all... what kind of bullshit are you convincing yourself of??
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I believe you made a comment as such.
Before I do though Ill ask you to back up your claims.
I knew the lesbo comment would get you all riled up.
Answer my question and provide your basis and ill do the same for you.
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yes, the "lesbo" comment would get me all riled up... you are absolutly correct, however, i know the truth on the relationship in which i shared with both Cathy and Nannete, and I also know that was only as friend...mentor... that sort of thing.
what question was it that you wanted me to answer?
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How many times are you going to ask me that.
Scroll up I asked you to offer up the basis of your claims.
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the basis of my claims is my being there, and talking to others...
now what is the basis of YOUR claims?
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So youre saying you were there for every day the school has been opened? That you have met every single student who ever walked up that hill?
Cause if not then the correct answer would be,
"I have no basis for my claims, I simply made them up."
Cause again you cant really talk about people you know nothing about now can you?
Now what claims of mine are you refering to?
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So Robert can you claim that you knew how every single student felt about the school? No. You ridicule Aften for not knowing about every single student, yet you insinuate you are the almighty know it all that knows every single thing about the school. Can't have it both ways. Hmmmm how does the shoe fit on that other foot Robert?
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I never said that i know every thing about every student, and i did say that i was making generalizations, but who doesn't?? everyone makes them...
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On 2005-11-14 18:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So Robert can you claim that you knew how every single student felt about the school? No. You ridicule Aften for not knowing about every single student, yet you insinuate you are the almighty know it all that knows every single thing about the school. Can't have it both ways. Hmmmm how does the shoe fit on that other foot Robert? "
Please post the comment I made in which I stated I knew how every single student felt about the school.
Perhaps you should research these stupid remarks before you make them.
Also find the insinuation I made which suggest I feel I know every single thing about the school.
Shouldnt be to hard for you.
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On 2005-11-14 18:34:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"I never said that i know every thing about every student, and i did say that i was making generalizations, but who doesn't?? everyone makes them... "
And again she makes one, oh and yes everyone makes assumptions and generalizations at certian points, however not as a matter of habit as seems to be the case with you. You would also be hard pressed to find many Ive made on here, as I tend to stick to the facts.
Speaking of which I never claimed you said you know every thing about every student. But you did claim you knew of many aspects of every student. Something again you cannot possibly know.
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Goddamn...get off yourself already...
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On 2005-11-15 11:29:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"Goddamn...get off yourself already..."
There you go trying to turn this around on me (again typical staff behavior trying to blame your mistakes on others) this has nothing to do with me or being "on myself" this has to do with you making a large series of stupid comments that you cannot back up.
Are you willing to admit you were wrong?
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Where was I wrong?? Absolutly nowhere...
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On 2005-11-15 15:13:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"Where was I wrong?? Absolutly nowhere... "
You werent wrong about any of the assumptions you made about people youve never met?
You werent wrong about claiming that everyone of them needed to be there?
You werent wrong about claiming that everyone of them tried to walk all over the counsolers because they were able to do so with their parents?
You werent wrong about claiming that every single one of them "got what they deserved"?
You werent wrong about claiming they all threw pity parties?
You werent wrong in claiming they all blamed their problems on others?
All of these things about people youve never met and you want to say you were never wrong? Even after you admitted you had made generalizations?
And then you want to tell me to get off myself.
Again typical staff behavior.