The brainwashing is the key. If we could get the masses educated with regard to what mind control is - how and why it works - we could stop all these programs dead cold.
The brainwashing is the key - for the kids. I think that is exactly what
some parents and the conservative party is looking for. They don't think there is anything wrong with brainwashing kids who are on destructive paths.
Psy, you say you support Buzz. I think Buzz probably really believes she was brainwashed, even though she said she never went to one of the LGAT seminars and, has no first hand knowledge of what goes on in one. I think Buzz was just easily influenced.
Can the argument be made that Buzz must have also been brainwashed by Scheff? Buzz spent many a post trying to prove me wrong about my beliefs about Scheff. Actually Buzz was Sue's main supporter at the time and she was the main one posting at the time and trying to prove I was wrong about Scheff. All I was trying to do was to warn parents about Scheff.
If you look back now, you will see that Buzz has deleted all of those posts she wrote in support of Scheff. Why? Is she no longer brainwashed? I guess if you want to say she is no longer under the influence of Scheff, that would be more applicable way of saying it. But would it be applicable to say she is no longer brainwashed by Scheff?
Was Buzz brainwashed about ALA and Craig Rogers? She posted in support of him - ALOT. She even tried to start a forum for him on the ALA website. She was an outspoken advocate for ALA. She was promoting ALA. Why do you view ALA differently than you do other programs? Is it because Buzz proclaims it to be an ok place. Is it because her son claims it to be an ok place. He worked there just like Ashly worked/works at Harbor Oaks. Buzz's son says ALA is ok and Ashlyn says that Harbor Oaks is ok. Why would you view ALA any differently than you do Harbor Oaks or Whitmore? There has been controversy in the past with Craig Rogers. He has had a program in the past with problems.
Psy, I ask you these questions because I am trying to understand. Also, I believing that brainwashing involves being held against ones will. I don't think Buzz or any other parent who attends these seminars becomes brainwashed. They can get up and leave at any time. I think they are influenced by peer pressure and the need for a perceived outcome that is in line with their way of thinking.
I am sure that this post will piss some people off. Please know that is not my intention. Change and accountability go hand in hand.
I also want to make clear the fact that I don't dislike Buzz. I think she has a good heart and good intentions. I even think she had good intentions back when she was supporting Sue. But I do think people who are easily influenced, people like Buzz, are the ones who are in danger of being manipulated by LGAT seminars and "self-proclaimed experts". I feel for them and I feel for their kids. But I don't think they are brainwashed.
Someone who is brainwashed does not have a choice in the matter. People who are being brainwashed don't have the option of getting up and walking out of the brainwashing seminar.
Maybe we are just splitting hairs here, but I think it is important to make the distinction between what these kids suffer from vs. what the parents suffer from.
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