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General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: Wh??ter on May 31, 2011, 02:36:14 PM
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Ha,Ha,Ha. You are an excitable character, Max. Perhaps you and PODK can find a way to harness your energies in positive ways, lol.
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OK, everyone. Settle down. It's obvious that Fornits is going downhill without me, so let's get back to some real discussions on the issues. My personal troll has left again, so I will have to pick up where I left off to get some traffic back to Fornits again.
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Ha,Ha,Ha. Give it a rest, PODK. Don't you have some young girls and their families to harrass? Did you quit making porn sites with people you disagree with on them? Remember the last time when you and Niles were exposed?
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I wouldn't put too much stock in it. It's probably just a few users clicking on it hundreds of times to boost the count. Most people don't obsess over these schools.
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Linda, if you want people to take you seriously, you should tell the truth and not use words like "kidnapped" and "tortured". Reasonable people understand that these are just kids with problems who are headed down the wrong path. Their parents tried all of the local options and they didn't work. These parents are just doing what is best for their children.
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I agree that Obama is very weak. We need somebody like Mitt Romney so we can move this country forward.
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Still at it, none-ya? I thought you ran away. The admin asked me to come back to add some balance to the discussion. If you don't like it I guess you can move on.
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Calm down, Max. Ha,Ha,Ha. I'm here.
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This project is going to happen. A few rabble aren't going to stop progress. The community realizes this school is vital to their economy and will add value to local businesses. I'm hearing this is just a minor setback and the details have already been worked out to open the school.
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Ha,Ha,Ha. Classic. A few squeaky wheels make a lot of noise. Face it, these schools only help kids and families. All of this "abuse" is just made up, lol. To you people taking away a kid's cell phone is abusive. Parents aren't buying your story.
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Take it easy, Paul. We're just having a discussion. This is why you have no credibility. Do you really believe your name calling is going to get more people to read your opinions? Believe them? Until you learn to grow up and act like an adult everyone will view you as just another kid who did poorly in their program. Just some advise.
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I have plenty of credibility
Whatever you need to tell yourself, Paul. The rest of us just look at your behavior and we can see you still have a lot of problems because you obviously didn't apply yourself in your program.
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Paul, you seem to be getting very upset. Try to calm down. It's just a discussion. This type of behavior is the reason why no parents listen to you.
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Here we go again with some more fake abuse claims. The guy is a lazy drug user. He did poorly at the program and it is reflected in his lack of success as an adult.
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Psy and I discussed it and the only way I can continue to post without making everyone angry again is to have my account tagged "PARODY". He doesn't want to take the heat for letting me post while I'm "banned" lol, so this is a way around that. I think we all agree it's no big deal.
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It's going to be moved just outside the town's incorporated limit. They have a deal in place with the county to allow the school to open just about a mile from the originally planned location. That's why Dr. Fitzhugh conceded at the meeting. They already have the green light for the new location.
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Let's step back for a moment and take a closer look.
Consider when you do this, though, the effect it will have on the forum. Whooter is a catalyst for so much discussion and when he's gone, the forum isn't very active at all. It might grow without him, maybe back to what it was.... Maybe. Who knows. Who else will represent his viewpoint. It will become necessary to invent him and for that purpose you have to promise you will make up a sock-puppet... Maybe a fake ed-con, complete with email address for parents to contact you.
The reason I had to come back is because DJ refused to create the sockpuppet to replace me. I asked Psy to let me step in to provide the traffic this site desperately needs. He agreed and now I'm back. If you don't like it, blame DJ for not doing what Psy told him to do. Why are you all so afraid of real dialog? My advise would be to jump into the conversation and stop spending so much time trying to discredit those who don't agree with you.
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Ha,Ha,Ha
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We are looking into the property. There's no way it's worth $10.5M, but we expect to get a deal done at a much lower price.
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Link? Citation? Source? Jill, we all know that you have a personal problem with HLA/RCS and have an axe to grind. You will have to offer some proof to be believed. I could just as easily say "Sources indicate Jill Ryan was the one who assaulted the staff member". Without some sort of proof it's just another accusation from a disgruntled parent who pulled their kid out early and then were surprised that the kid had problems.
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Sounds like a few of you are frustrated that I have been allowed back to post. Anything that interferes with your negative propaganda campaigns against these schools seems to make you very upset. Look, I argue both for and against the Trouble Teen Industry and offer a balanced view. If this makes you uncomfortable, maybe you should find something else to do with your time lol.
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To an outside reader, this all seems very strange. With all the talk about "kidnapping" and "brainwashing" you're trying to make people believ these schools are like North Korean prison camps, lol. We all agree that they are nothing like that. For instance, you think a kid being grounded for a week with no video game privileges is "abusive". I don't think anyone is buying it though.
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Nice to see you back, Danny. This site needs your voice as a counterweight to people like Paul St. John who have extreme views of treatment.
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Hey... How ya doin'? It's Paul St. John... that crazy motherfucker, who never went to Elan[/b], but is all sorts of into it, to the extent that you'd think he sometimes forgets that.... LOL!
No, we haven't forgotten that fact, Paul. Readers need to understand that you are here condemning a school that you have never even been to. It really exposes your agenda and tarnished Fornits as a whole that you are not challenged on these views based in pure fantasy and hatred.
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Ursus, good point. According to JCAHO, Ridge Creek Wilderness is not accredited by JCAHO. We have both verbal and email confirmation from JCAHO.
LOL! We are sure you do, Jill. But if you can't prove it, it's just another claim from another Fornits poster with no facts. We'll be waiting for some evidence.
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Look, Guest3, you and Jill keep posting these items about HLA/RCS, but the proof is in the pudding so to speak. ORS never takes any action against HLA/RCS so these incidents must not be that serious, right? If these were serious allegations the state would be all over HLA/RCS and they would be shut down. These kids have problems. Sometimes they harm themselves. That's why they were placed at HLA/RCS, for their safety. Without the school these kids would be dead, insane or in jail. That's just the simple facts.
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Ha,Ha,Ha. We are talking about "Ridge Creek School" here, Guest3. Not "Ridge Creek Wilderness". These are two separate facilities.
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Hey... How ya doin'? It's Paul St. John... that crazy motherfucker, who never went to Elan[/b], but is all sorts of into it, to the extent that you'd think he sometimes forgets that.... LOL!
No, we haven't forgotten that fact, Paul. Readers need to understand that you are here condemning a school that you have never even been to. It really exposes your agenda and tarnished Fornits as a whole that you are not challenged on these views based in pure fantasy and hatred.
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Somehow you seemed to have skipped addressing this very important point, Paul.
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You might want to mention to the readers that the document you linked to was for a local hospital, not HLA/RCS or RCW. It's kind of an important thing to slip up on, Guest3, lol.
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Look, Guest3, you and Jill keep posting these items about HLA/RCS, but the proof is in the pudding so to speak. ORS never takes any action against HLA/RCS so these incidents must not be that serious, right? If these were serious allegations the state would be all over HLA/RCS and they would be shut down. These kids have problems. Sometimes they harm themselves. That's why they were placed at HLA/RCS, for their safety. Without the school these kids would be dead, insane or in jail. That's just the simple facts.
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I guess we'll see what happens... won't we?
Judging by all of the past "incidents" you like to bring up, nothing will happen. Face it, Guest3, HLA/RCS is clean. They are accredited, licensed and overseen by ORS who has never found any problems to sanction them for. You're just grasping at straws in my opinion.
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From: "complaint" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 12:26 pm
Subject: Correspondence from The Joint Commission Office of Quality Monitoring: 10
To:
Wednesday, June 01, 2011
Incident #31465ZOH-61589HZM
Dear
I am writing in response to the issues you communicated on 5/31/2011 to
The Joint Commission.
We have reviewed our records and have determined that this facility is
currently accredited by The Joint Commission.
The Joint Commission stands ready to receive and review issues of
concern about accredited organizations at any time and will act in
accordance with all the information that is provided to us.
Sincerely,
Office of Quality Monitoring
Well that seems official to me! Anyone can make up an email and post it, Jill.
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Nice to see you back, Danny. This site needs your voice as a counterweight to people like Paul St. John who have extreme views of treatment.
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Whatever you are, that was yesterday. I believe I have grown up a bit and don't feel so victimized. I found that early on I had a chip on my shoulder and tried to blame it on everyone else. It is 2011 and their is a new sheriff in town.
You are on your own, pal.
Bye Bye
I'm sorry to hear this. I was the only one to stand up for you when you had gotten exposed for dragging that girl behind your van, remember? Trying to discredit me only reflects poorly on you, Danny. You are the one who worked at Elan school and tied a girl to the bumper of your van and dragged her around the campus. Maybe it's time for you to look at yourself a little bit. Just my advise.
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Thank you Jill.... obviously Whooter can't process a simple concept such as using website for verification purposes.
Whooter - now that you have the incident number are you going to follow up with JCAHO? Or are you going to continue to call us liars?
Ha,Ha,Ha. You made the claim, not me. Why would I follow up when I never made the representation? It seems like you may have come up a little short on "evidence", Guest3. I'm not going to do your busywork. You made the claim so you need to back it up.
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Another "unpublished", unverifiable "report". You gotta love Fornits! Even if this were true, which is open to question, it would only prove that this kid needs to be there and places like RCS are in fact necessary to help these trouble teens.
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Ridge Creek School works closely with the Georgia Department of Social Service to help them address their struggles to their continuous expansion caused by the growing demand for their services and at the same time keep the children in a safe structured environment. The Children are at-risk youths which were not functioning well at home or in their public schools. The children often suffer from emotion problems which can often be addressed with a combination of structure and therapy. They are all good kids and just need a chance to grow and find their own path.
Ridge Creek School has shown immense success in turning these children around in just a few short months.
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I agree that Obama is very weak. We need somebody like Mitt Romney so we can move this country forward.
Apparently, you're in luck:
Mitt Romney campaign will launch on N.H. farm (http://http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2011_0530planting_political_seeds_mitt_campaign_will_launch_on_nh_farm/)
Planting political seeds
By Christine McConville ยท Boston Herald
Monday, May 30, 2011[/list]
And he use to post here Ha,Ha,Ha.
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Another "unpublished", unverifiable "report". You gotta love Fornits! Even if this were true, which is open to question, it would only prove that this kid needs to be there and places like RCS are in fact necessary to help these trouble teens.
Yes, there needs to be places that can help kids like this. It's just that Ridge Creek School is apparently not one of them.
Present studies show that 80% of the kids who enter a Therapeutic Boarding School do well and are successful after graduating from the school. Ridge Creek School has shown that their staff has enjoyed a great track record in turning around At-risk youths in as little as 6 months.
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Most parents know their own kids and know if they would be willing to attend a program or not. If a child is defiant and would refuse to get help then an escort would be a good choice in this case. I am not aware of any other options available if the kid refuses help.
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Sheesh. You people can't organize a message board much less a film lol.
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Ha,Ha,Ha. Jill, you can't go back three days after a topic was started and try to exclude me just because I disagree with you. Your edit stamps give away your little plan. You should try to stay focused on the discussion and not try to discredit people who disagree with you.
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Whoops! lol
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Ridge Creek School is regulated by the state of Georgia and the kids meet with DHS professionals during their stay there. I think the improvements have been difficult for the school as they grow but the transparency has benefited the children and the school alike. We need to remember that these are at-risk teens and they will act out and get into fights, they are sexually active and events are going to occur. But I think we can all agree that regulation and oversight has been good for the schools transition from HLA to RCS and will only continue to improve through 2011.
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Ha,Ha,Ha. Jill, you can't go back three days after a topic was started and try to exclude me just because I disagree with you. Your edit stamps give away your little plan. You should try to stay focused on the discussion and not try to discredit people who disagree with you.
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Whoops! lol
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Whooter is correct.
Same goes for this thread, Jill.
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Ha,Ha,Ha. Jill, you can't go back three days after a topic was started and try to exclude me just because I disagree with you. Your edit stamps give away your little plan. You should try to stay focused on the discussion and not try to discredit people who disagree with you.
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Whoops! lol
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Whooter is correct.
Same goes for this thread, Jill.
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PODK probably has a lot of experience with cops, Bubba and Tyrone judging from when he was exposed for making porn sites about young girls from programs. I wouldn't put too much stock in what he says.
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Seems like our old friend Ursus has a pretty deep obsession with this guy. Maybe they were roommates or something. Soon he will try to blame Hyde for this guy's death 20 years later in typical Fornits style. The truth is he would have been dead a long time ago if he hadn't gone to Hyde and gotten back on the right path.
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It makes me upset to see the kinds of things people are writing about Short ridge academy as I am an alumni and graduate myself. Let me begin by saying every person/teen has their own process of healing; healing from whatever deep hurtful things happened in the past. The point where short ridge is most effective, or not, in helping teens heal, ultimately comes down to how willing said teen is to take their issues seriously. If the person cant take responsibility for themself and stop blaming others, then SRA wont work.
To clear the fog... There is absolutely no violence used to reprimand students. I was also taken in the middle of the night by strangers, who based on what I was doing at that time in my life I thought were taking me somewhere to kill me. That obviously ended up not being the case.
For all parents considering sending their children to this place, I say do it. But dont change your mind three months later. That shows a lack of commitment to the teen. However it is very important that you(as the parent) think seriously about how your issues have impacted the baggage your child carries, AND BE WILLING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT while you child is at SRA. Many parents send their children to SRA thinking its going to fix them. I think we can all agree Healing is a collaborative effort. Shortridge staff will do a lot of prodding at issues and many times will get to the bottom of some very hurtful things. But for people looking to be emotionally healthy, taking these issues head on early is pivotal to being an emotionally healthy adult and not continuing to run from it. Shortridge specializes in this healing process, but again, healing is a collaborative effort, is a process and takes 100% comittment. You cant force someone to look at their issues.
Teens may say how bad the place is, how bad thier parents are for doing it, but they are teens and thats what teens say. It will make scene to them later why they went to shortride. and down the road, if they still dont agree, then said individual was lazy and didn't do any emotional work on themselves.
I want to clear-up a couple of other things too. Adam Rainer and Bruce Wilson are great individuals and personally helped me become the person I am today.
I was very troubled before I arrived at short ridge. I come from a large intercity in the US and experienced very intense, and psychologically scaring things at a young age. Shortridge turned that around for me, but more importantly gave me the tools I needed to maintain when things got tough after I graduated. I went from high school dropout to the top five percent of my graduating university class. I now have experience working for companies across the US and have worked abroad since I left shortridge. The reality is, the reason that was possible was because I, and my parents, with the help of SRA were willing to put in the work necessary to change.
Please feel free to ask any questions. I'd be glad to clear up any stigma that still exists.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE BLASTING THIS SCHOOL, go check it out (im positive they will let you) before you write anything else that compromises SRA's integrity. Thank you
Thank you for posting your experiences Robert William. Shortridge looks like a great program. The people bashing it either didn't finish their programs or did poorly and now they try to blame all of their problems on the program rather than taking responsibility for their failures. You'll probably get blasted by the regulars here. They will call you names, say you are "brainwashed" lol and try to get your personal information so they can harrass you. Don't let them get to you and keep coming back to share your positive experiences.
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This was a study conducted surveying 1,000 parents and graduates of a few programs. The study was overseen by WIRB (The Western Institutional Review Board) and they also approved the study. The results were presented at the Annual meeting of the APA American Psychological Association.
Link (http://http://www.scribd.com/doc/503084/Residential-Treatment-Outcomes-Study)
I'm not acquainted with Edward Kahn, DEE.
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Look quanat, the admin wants me here to increase traffic to this site. You can't just exclude people who disagree with you. I'm happy to have a discussion with you, but I'm not going to come down to your level.
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Uh Oh! It looks like Che is joining the ranks of the "chin dribblers" he makes so much fun of lol. Che, the discussion on HLA is going just fine. I see no reason to have a moderator oversee it when the gatekeeper is doing a fine job when moderation is needed.
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Your welcome Michael William. It's nice to have somebody around here besides me that tells the truth about programs. They're needed and they work, period. If this wasn't true there wouldn't be any programs.
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Ridge Creek School works closely with the Georgia Department of Social Service to help them address their struggles to their continuous expansion caused by the growing demand for their services and at the same time keep the children in a safe structured environment. The Children are at-risk youths which were not functioning well at home or in their public schools. The children often suffer from emotion problems which can often be addressed with a combination of structure and therapy. They are all good kids and just need a chance to grow and find their own path.
Ridge Creek School has shown immense success in turning these children around in just a few short months.
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Whooter - You told me to back up my claim, which I did. Now back up your claim that "Ridge Creek School has shown immense success in turning these children around in just a few short months".
I didn't see where anyone showed HLA/RCS was fined, Guest3. I just read back thru this thread and did not see that anywhere.
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This was a study conducted surveying 1,000 parents and graduates of a few programs. The study was overseen by WIRB (The Western Institutional Review Board) and they also approved the study. The results were presented at the Annual meeting of the APA American Psychological Association.
Link (http://http://www.scribd.com/doc/503084/Residential-Treatment-Outcomes-Study)
I'm not acquainted with Edward Kahn, DEE.
And guess who provided funding for the study: Aspen Education Group.
Whooter - back up YOUR claim: Ridge Creek School has shown that their staff has enjoyed a great track record in turning around At-risk youths in as little as 6 months.
No need to get so angry, Guest3.
My biggest surprise was that I really began to like it here. I feel a part of something that is really good for me. I learn every day. I discover new things about myself everyday. It's weird, but great. Also, I discovered that the staff really cares. This isn't just a job for them. They like helping kids learn and grow. Finally, and this is probably the biggest surprise, you can change. You can learn from mistakes and let go of the past and change.
Link (http://http://www.ridgecreekschool.com/student-testimonial.htm)
We can all agree that the staff at RCS has had great success with turning around these trouble teens. It is well documented.
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Guest3, do you even read what you post? This letter clearly states that there is intent to fine RCS, but it doesn't say this fine was actually imposed. Even if it was, which I strongly doubt, it was only for $600 which is chump change. If there were ny serious problems the fines would be immense and RCS would be forced out of business. As it is now, they are thriving and growing with lots of students referred by the state. If the state is unhappy with RCS why are they sending so many kids there? Doesn't add up Guest3, sorry.
As for the kids being put back on track by RCS and their staff, there are examples everywhere.
My biggest surprise was that I really began to like it here. I feel a part of something that is really good for me. I learn every day. I discover new things about myself everyday. It's weird, but great. Also, I discovered that the staff really cares. This isn't just a job for them. They like helping kids learn and grow. Finally, and this is probably the biggest surprise, you can change. You can learn from mistakes and let go of the past and change.
Link (http://http://www.ridgecreekschool.com/student-testimonial.htm)
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I'm really glad to be back and joining the debate here. It's nice to see Fornits come to life again with some real discussions. Traffic has gone way up the past few days too. If people here start to learn to take a step back and look at things objectively it wouldn't be necessary for me to post here but I am here to provide balance to the discussion and it's obviously working, based on the amount of posts recently. Let's roll up our sleeves get some more good debates going!
As long as regular posters like DJ and Bruce keep hiding in the shadows instead of working to help the kids I will step in to take over.
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Quanat what's with the attack threads? I have no connection to the industry except I am a parent of a kid who was at-risk and who was helped by a program.
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So you admit that RCS does not claim this accreditation, Guest3? Where is the "lie" then? I'm not sure what you're so upset about when you admit RCS is truthful about their accreditation lol. Most businesses don't update their websites daily, Guest3. Sometimes it takes a few days for them to catch up. This is settled. RCS has not made any false claims. Let's move on.
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Keep in mind, Mansion, that Danny was staff at Elan and dragged a girl behind his van because she was too fat according to Danny. The vast majority of programs are safe and effective and child abusers like Danny give them a bad name. I'm sorry if you had a bad experience because of him but you need to step back a little and see how much good the programs do for kids headed down the wrong path.
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Great. Now we both agree that the school did nothing wrong. Thank you for clearing it up for the readers, Guest3. See, it wasn't that hard to just admit it was it? Maybe if you focused more on the kids your personal agenda with RCS wouldn't get in the way so much.
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Ha,Ha,Ha. First you say they were never accredited and falsely claimed they were and now you say they were accredited but lost it. The reality is that if you look right at their website they do not claim JCAHO accreditation. Anyone can look for themselves and see that, Guest3.
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Come on, Guest3, you are really grasping at straws. Are you now going to claim all of the students and parents that had great experiences at RCS and posted them on RCS's website are involved in some sort of conspiracy to lie about it? I don't think anyone is going to buy it.
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Guest3, please explain to the readers why, if RCS is failing state inspections as you claim, that the same state responsible for their oversight keeps sending more and more students there? It makes no sense.
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No, we agree that your claim makes no sense. The state would not be sending students to RCS if it wasn't safe and effective. You want us to believe the state is wrong even though they do constant inspections and you're right even though you have never even been to RCS? Sorry, but we're not buying that.
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Come on, Guest3. You know as well as I do that there are dozens of testimonials about RCS success. You just posted one yourself! And those testimonials represent only a small fraction of the satisfied customers. There are many more. There are only a handful of disgruntled parents, kids and former staffers who post negative comments about RCS. You have an axe to grind and we can all see that.
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Ha,Ha,Ha. First you say they were never accredited and falsely claimed they were and now you say they were accredited but lost it. The reality is that if you look right at their website they do not claim JCAHO accreditation. Anyone can look for themselves and see that, Guest3.
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Whooter - I never said RCW wasn't accredited. They were accredited and lost the accreditation, but yet they still referenced being accredited by JCAHO DESPITE having the accreditation revoked. RCW used to have the JCAHO seal on their web site, but took it off at some point.
This is the last I'll respond to you on this subject because you continue to twist words: Perhaps you should be more concerned with the fact that RCW LOST their accreditation and try to determine why that occurred. I mean, since you are obviously so concerned about the children and have their best interest at heart.
Do you have any evidence that RCW was accredited and lost their accreditation? I didn't read that anywhere until you just brought it up. I'd have to see a letter from JCAHO to RCW explaining how they lost it. Until that happens we can agree you have failed to prove RCW has done anything wrong.
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You have proved my point. The state doesn't feel RCS has had any serious violations. If they did they wouldn't be sending even more kids there! lol
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Wow, the number of hits on Fornits has gone way up since I was allowed back. Just look at all of the posts from the past few days and you can see how much value I add to this site. Without me it becomes a ghost town with only group-thinkers telling eachother how right they are.
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That big guy looks like RobertBruce Ha,Ha,Ha. The little guy must be an HLA staff setting Bruce straight. No wonder he ran from HLA after only a couple of weeks!
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Ursus, where do you get the information that the kid died? From Guest3? lol The person's name is "Kris K" and her son did well at HLA and was put back on track. I didn't see anywhere that she said he died. Some people will say anything!
I don't see what this has to do with John Reuben either. He is the favorite boogeyman of Fornits. His son completed his program and was very successful in business. His death had nothing to do with his program. It was an accident.
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Sorry, Guest3, but nobody has shown that "Kris K" is Patrick Kennedy's mother. It says "K" not "Kennedy" right? And even if it was her, which I highly doubt, she thinks HLA did a great job with her son. It's not HLA's fault that her kid (if that really is the case) died some years later. We have to go with the facts we can verify and we cannot verify Kris K is this guy's mom nor can we conclude HLA had anything to do with his death. So basically you got nothing except your own agenda to discredit the school because you pulled your kid out and she didn't do well after.
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Guest3, don't you realize that by excluding me from your thread you are basically insuring nobody will ever even look at it? lol Nobody is reading it and nobody is responding to it. That's why the admin wanted me to come back so we can get the traffic flowing again and generate some good discussion. Your only hurting your own cause by trying to exclude people who don't agree or offer a different point of view. Just some friendly advise.
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Ha,Ha,Ha. This is just typical Fornits paranoia as usual. I didn't post all day today just to prove my point, Paul. When I'm not here this site is dead, no traffic at all. That's why I had to step in again. As long as I am here everyone is happy and we get a lot of traffic and lots of good discussion.
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Sheesh, Jill. I didn't derail this thread or any other thread. Guest3 asked me some questions and I answered them. If anybody derailed anything it was Guest3 not me lol. Instead of focusing on me so much it would be best for the children if we got back to discussing issues and not trying to isolate people who don't agree with us. I believe the topic of this thread was "Another Staff Beaten". Let's try to stay on topic.
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Sounds great, Idreamofnewtonsburning! Personally, I like to fill the bong with a little Cointreau and ice to set up the flavor pallette and cool down the smoke.
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That big guy looks like RobertBruce Ha,Ha,Ha. The little guy must be an HLA staff setting Bruce straight. No wonder he ran from HLA after only a couple of weeks!
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Yikes. Whootie could you do me a favor and tone down your raging man crush towards me. I've explained to you on several occasions that I'm simply not interested. I realize that you're upset over the fact that you've lost literally every argument you've ever had with me, but I'm sure everyone would appreciate if you could cut out all the lies. Its a sad sign when you realize you can't beat me based on facts, so instead you attempt to insult or discredit me with your mad up stories. Try harder sport.
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That big guy looks like RobertBruce Ha,Ha,Ha. The little guy must be an HLA staff setting Bruce straight. No wonder he ran from HLA after only a couple of weeks!
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Yikes. Whootie could you do me a favor and tone down your raging man crush towards me. I've explained to you on several occasions that I'm simply not interested. I realize that you're upset over the fact that you've lost literally every argument you've ever had with me, but I'm sure everyone would appreciate if you could cut out all the lies. Its a sad sign when you realize you can't beat me based on facts, so instead you attempt to insult or discredit me with your mad up stories. Try harder sport.
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I still shake my head 18 years later. Why couldn't they keep their hands to themselves?
As I recall, JJB, you said you loved it when other men touched your package in smoosh piles. Let's not be diningenuous to the readers.
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I still shake my head 18 years later. Why couldn't they keep their hands to themselves?
As I recall, JJB, you said you loved it when other men touched your package in smoosh piles. Let's not be diningenuous to the readers.
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JJB is a gay man, as you can see from his loving his penis being touched by male staffers in smoosh piles. Later he became the gay staffer touching the young men's penises in smoosh piles. When they complained, he punished them with isolation and takedowns. JJB is a child abuser/molester.
Notice he did not deny it Ha,Ha,Ha.
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