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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on March 16, 2006, 02:17:00 PM
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So i got into it via email with a now very EX childhood friend. Staying true to my ways I am quite certain I got the last word in.
So it dawned on me, i am really good at verbal assault. Not only can I by far outmatch my opponents, i walk away with little regard about anything i said, and really don't care much about what was said to me as well.
And so I ask you all: Is this a direct result of Straight? Have I forever been desensitized to such things? Or maybe I was born with such meaness.
Any thoughts?
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Regardless, it's a self-destructive, unproductive, and fruitless way to win anything.
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Salesmanship Club '84-'86
Straight, Inc. '86-'88
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Well mr. King debator with the iron balls. If your so unconcerned and callious as to what is said upon you, why did you post this anon? ::fuckoff::
Truth is your a self absorbed chicken shit that mistakes your arrogence for greatness. Sometimes champion assholes like yourself think your getting in the "last words," but noone was there to hear you. Kinda hard to tell via internet. And idiots like yourself believe what your self loathing tells you to believe. ::fuckoff::
You should hook up with Gregfl. You two would make a great couple. You 2 could save the world from your bullshit by spending eternity debating each other. ::fuckoff::
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Jus'ayin' :razz:
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No it was really a great debate and I surely defeated my EX friend with the last word. I now feel like a genius with words.
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Outsmarting a brain damaged, retarted person or child pretending to be an adult is not a great bragging victory.
Your worse than a rookie serial killer that just scored their first slaughter.
Now shut the fuck up and go do something real.
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I still think that I put up one hell of a wordplay on my EX childhood friend, such as I'm doing here. And I think that straight made me a genius.
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yes, true Your wordplay has defeated me. Maybe you can help me with your advanced word intellect. I need some ideas for my website. click the link below and tell me what you think.
http://www.computervirusforgunius.com (http://www.computervirusforgunius.com)
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I think your full of shit
Well said, RY! :tup:
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On 2006-03-16 16:45:00, 1Reagan5Youth1 wrote:
"yes, true Your wordplay has defeated me. Maybe you can help me with your advanced word intellect. I need some ideas for my website. click the link below and tell me what you think.
http://www.computervirusforgunius.com (http://www.computervirusforgunius.com)
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I knew that you would agree that you've been defeated, as I have so skillfully done. Although you're not much of a match for the sharpest tounge on fornits.
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Very EX childhood friend, Reagan Youth, now who's next???
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Your ex-friend and I dug up your mom and fucked her on your very dear blankee. :eek: :lol:
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where's the gay genius???
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Hey Reagan, looks like you forgot to sign in. :wstupid:
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sharpening up that gay tongue in some boned up ass :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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On 2006-03-16 20:47:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hey Reagan, looks like you forgot to sign in. :wstupid: "
That's impossible; he's dead.
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..and you're next.
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yea, dead right ::unhappy::
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about you being a gay "want my mommy back" sissy fag
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as a doornail...this poster isn't the same "reagan youth."
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Look, I already had to "break it down" for my very EX friend and Reagan Youth tonight. Now don't let me make a joke out of you anon.
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On 2006-03-16 20:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Look, I already had to "break it down" for my very EX friend and Reagan Youth tonight. Now don't let me make a joke out of you anon."
Who are you speaking to, sir?
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yea, you broke down and cried like a little bitch :lol:
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On 2006-03-16 20:55:00, 1Reagan5Youth1 wrote:
"yea, you broke down and cried like a little bitch :lol: "
What are you talking about?
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the genius sharp tonguer
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On 2006-03-16 20:57:00, Guest wrote:
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On 2006-03-16 20:55:00, 1Reagan5Youth1 wrote:
"yea, you broke down and cried like a little bitch :lol: "
What are you talking about?"
Hey Guest, beat it, you don't know shit alright.
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On 2006-03-16 21:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-16 20:57:00, Guest wrote:
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On 2006-03-16 20:55:00, 1Reagan5Youth1 wrote:
"yea, you broke down and cried like a little bitch :lol: "
What are you talking about?"
Hey Guest, beat it, you don't know shit alright. "
What was the reagan imposter crying about?
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On 2006-03-16 21:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-16 20:57:00, Guest wrote:
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On 2006-03-16 20:55:00, 1Reagan5Youth1 wrote:
"yea, you broke down and cried like a little bitch :lol: "
What are you talking about?"
Hey Guest, beat it, you don't know shit alright. "
What was the Reagan imposter saying that the anon was crying about? It's a legitimate question.
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On 2006-03-16 21:00:00, Guest wrote:
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On 2006-03-16 21:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-16 20:57:00, Guest wrote:
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On 2006-03-16 20:55:00, 1Reagan5Youth1 wrote:
"yea, you broke down and cried like a little bitch :lol: "
What are you talking about?"
Hey Guest, beat it, you don't know shit alright. "
What was the reagan imposter crying about?"
He's pissed because I buried him with wordplay earlier, just like my very EX childhood friend.
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I'm a fucking genius.
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The only thing that got buried was a giant cock in your ass.
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Oh, I see. That's terrible.
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On 2006-03-16 21:05:00, 1Reagan5Youth1 wrote:
"The only thing that got buried was a giant cock in your ass."
Um.....sorry but you were defeated like hours ago, time for you to get the hell on out of here. next please.
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I'm not here right now.
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If your willing to make a wager out of it, I'll go next. I've been needing $$$$$cash$$$$ since I lost my ass to a Bronco/Steeler bet.
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Give me your money.[ This Message was edited by: CITIBANK on 2006-03-16 21:22 ]
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I'm sorry but you lost your ass to a Bronco/Steeler bet. I really don't have time for idiots. I'd rather sit and chat with my very EX childhood friend. NEXT.
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well genius. Exactly what did you learn in Straight that gave you the cutting edge tongue that you use to suck cock with???????
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On 2006-03-16 21:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I'm sorry but you lost your ass to a Bronco/Steeler bet. I really don't have time for idiots. I'd rather sit and chat with my very EX childhood friend. NEXT."
we'll see how smart you are in bubbas tank while your getting raped after I BUST YOUR ASS.
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Something I've done that I hope to never do again: There's much more to this story but to sum it up...got unexpectedly drunk (ie. didn't realize that 2 cosmos would do me in) in NYC on a business trip and spent the entire next day throwing up but had to get out of the city; after missing my train, I found myself (in full suit, laptop bag & luggage) barfing in the bathroom at the Port Authority bus station with about the most suspect of individuals.....it was a low life moment for me....until I was barfing in the bathroom of the Greyhound bus on the way home.
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What the fuck does this have to do with anything anon. Why don't you get the hell out of here and go trow up on your spouse our something. You're ruining a completely intellectual thread here.
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I'll throw up on you and you'll like it. ::puke::
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When did so many idiots get on this board? I posted a genuine question yesterday and I check back today and 3 pages of rubbish replies?
Some people need jobs :smile:
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fuck you guys
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I'll pass. I don't do losers anyway :wave:
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i was not talking to you dickhead
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On 2006-03-16 11:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So i got into it via email with a now very EX childhood friend. Staying true to my ways I am quite certain I got the last word in.
So it dawned on me, i am really good at verbal assault. Not only can I by far outmatch my opponents, i walk away with little regard about anything i said, and really don't care much about what was said to me as well.
And so I ask you all: Is this a direct result of Straight? Have I forever been desensitized to such things? Or maybe I was born with such meaness.
Any thoughts?"
To me, it does not sound as pleasant as it first appears. Granted there is an adrenaline (sp) rush associated with verbal bantering. To many of us, myself included this is exciting as all get out! It opens up the veins, the capillaries dilate into such a state that the blood supply is rich with oxygen. The brain activity is almost certainly bristling with the firings between the axon and the dendrites. I think its safe for me to say that it is just shy of an euphoric state, intoxicating.
It never dawned on me that I was "really good at verbal assault"...I always took it for granted; I thought it was part of my personality to borderline tween, sarcasm and assault, at least verbally so. To match wits and to be animated about doing so, to be passionate to the point of extremes, was a norm, for me,
Once I was faced with a simple question of whether I preferred to be "right" or "happy", in my discourse with others. My first plea was that I would have had the ability to have both simultaneously; as they seemed that they would play off each other nicely. In the long run it appeared my goal was to be ?right? rather than be ?happy?
In regard to Straight, and this notion of the "sharp tongue", for me, as a teenager, I think it certainly honed my skill set, perfected it and taught me to use it indiscriminately. This was taught at formative years of 12-15. During that time it was common to attack and re-attack. It was also a time of living in fear of being attacked. Part of this struggle, for me, to survive was to establish a vocabulary?I had none to speak of, other than ?wow?. ?what a rush?. ?cool?, ?dig it?, ?far out? etc etc?
I recall the first time I heard a word being used frequently around the group, not sure about the girl?s side. The saying was ?Jack Ass?, It wasn?t a word in my repertoire, but it sounded accurate and powerful when used skillfully. The first time I used the term. ?Jack Ass? was during a meal. As the meals were being passed down the rows I decided to use the term to the guy sitting nest to me. The next thing I recall was that he was removing his fist from just under the corner of my right eye? Of course this drew much attention from those around us and whatever 5th phasers?nothing was done?at all, zilch, notta.
Of course this was at a time back in the day that massive takedowns were the exception rather than the rule. But there was wholesale attack on each other, we attacked, looks, character traits, sexual histories, families finical status?anything. We did so without regard for the targets emotions or even considered the consequences that this person would undoubtedly face.
There always seem to be a person that could wrap it up as close as staff would hope for and just to continue to drill and pound away, whilst staff presumably considered what should happen next?it always seemed to help by expecting the worst. And ultimately staff would relay the sentence/consequences. That person, that laid into who ever was the target of the ?stand-up?, always seemed to have a special status and were used for such verbal assaults on people. (I am speaking of group folks, not necessarily staff members?although they seemed to have their specialties as well)
Perversely I think we, tended to want to emulate them, these were our ?heroes?. Sick, hateful, deceitful, sadistic as most were?those of us who stuck it out saw that as a means of getting thru the program. As a result behaving as they did in order of survival became second nature?and I often wonder myself if I am desensitized to it. Perhaps even having the ability to switch ?on & off??that is decent, sensitive even thoughtful one moment, then becoming nearly explosive the next toward some one?It really sucks when that happens in front of a loved one or to a loved one.
Concerning loved ones. Are they deserving of abuse similar to what we ourselves experienced. Sure we survived, is it fare to see if someone else can survive, because we survived? To put them thru some test is absurd?but it was done to us.
Possession of a very sharp tongue is one thing that can?t be denied, but it is not suited not for communication purposes. A sword probably left sheathed.
As I age, I wonder not so much about my tongue and the damage it can create. More so I am concerned at my words that come from brain to fingertip. Often this is done with out considering the medium in which we communicate is indeed only 2 dimensional with inferences that are exceptionally open to misinterpretations. We are an exceptionally opinioned, suspicious group of people, with good reason to be. ( I believe we came by this honestly, thru circumstance)
Handling confrontation or perceived threat is not always graceful or easy for me, and I can only imagine that is true for most people, regardless of circumstance, as well. But it seems instinctual to strike at a perceived threat, real, or imagined.
Disagreements are inevitable, as was pointed out to me, it make for better dialogue. We all tend to walk away with something.
As to the genetic question, the nature/nurture?who really knows. It?s like getting stabbed and then demanding to know who stabbed you before receiving treatment. Knowing there is the capacity to verbally/mentally/emotionally run circles around someone is thrilling and all?but it seems to me based on hate, revenge, loathing, bitterness and a state of misery that is prepared at any time to strike at what threatens it.
As was mentioned recently on another post, some one said something to the effect of ?at gatherings of people who populate forums (in a public place) in general, act in no way towards each other as they do when meeting face to face as they do online??something like that anyway?that has been my own experience as well. E-mail, Forums, websites and the like make it very difficult to really have (meaningful, insightful) communication.
The thing about verbal attack is that it works?It is designed to inflict harm. Sadly, it is effective. It was effective back in my program. It is also effective to this day.
The sharp tongue has been likened to a dual edge sword; I do my best to keep it sheathed, as mentioned earlier. The concern in working with such a weapon is that the recoil of such a weapon can have devastating consequences. I am all too often unprepared for that part of the equation?
What kills me about this whole thing? Ultimately I think the ?Sharp Tongue? syndrome ya speak of is directly associated with Straight Inc. As adolescents there may have of been a tendency to be a smart ass or whatever. But I think it directly refined anger/hate/fear and humiliation?all of this was directly exacerbated thru ritualistic verbal/mental/emotional abuse and later followed with physical abuse. All in the name of therapy?
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
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wow that was some long assed "verbal wit"
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what a great post woof-a doof.
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The three Fs and the oral arts...
Yeah, just so. He's always going around showing off all that razzle dazzle. :razz:
Seriously, though, be it Program born or other derived, I certainly came up w/ a bad case of it myself. Long before even the Seed, my dad used to refer affectionately to us kids as a "goddamned pit of vipers"... well, ok, maybe it wasn't all that affectionate. Regardless, it was as valid as anything. And, being the littlest one, I think I may well have been the scrappiest of them because, not half, not just one, not even all but one, but every last one of my sparring partners was much older than I. And, often enough, they were working together.
But there was a definite difference between that kind of verbal sparring and the kind in the Program. At home, the stakes were not so high. Oh, it seemed so at the time; approval, pecking order, weekend and after school liberty, household work load and all. But in the Program, the cost of losing was practically unthinkable, the prize for victory absoutely vital almost every time. Now THAT becomes engrained.
Afterward, when I used to try to verbally beat the very soul out of my loved ones, at some point, I had to figure it out. Even when my adversary was my well loved little child, why was I so tenacious? Why did I always have to go looking for a fight, ferreting out some imagined deception or betrayal? Why couldn't I chill, let the little things go? Why could I never just enjoy having these people willing to take me as I am and just chill the fuck out? Then it hit me. I was scared shittless of.... not a damned thing that was ever likely to happen in this life. It was just a shadow of what once was; the unthinkable risk of losing an argument. I can lose sometimes and they still love me.
It was a lot the same as how my body responds w/ pure panic to any police encounter, even if I'm the one who initiates it. I can tell myself it's all ok, I'm a 40+yo soccer mom in a mini-van, for Christ's sake! It's just a speeding ticket. And I know that's so. But my hands insist otherwise and shake visibly. It's a potentially dangerous situation, as my nervousness makes them wonder what's up. So far, so good. Haven't been taken down, booked, charge stacked and all in over 20 years.
I've gotten a whole lot better at fighting nicely w/ my loved ones, even at not fighting at all most of the time. But then, I see them every day and I like them a whole lot more than the strangers who work for the PD. Maybe I should speed more so that I can get more practice at not being afraid of cops. I wonder, how many speeding tickets does it take to counter a couple of bad scenerios over 20 years old?
Don't be skeered!
The people's right to change what does not work is one of the greatest
principles in our system of government
--Richard M. Nixon
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eudora sounds dumb when it chimes.
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Ok, be skeered. Your choice.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks.
--Anonymous
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So, I started this post a few days ago and have really been thinking about the topic. I thought that I would check and see from someone else, if I indeed imagine this about myself, or do I truelly posses an extremely sharp tounge. Well, to say the least, I now have yet another very EX friend. Why? Because I'm a fucking genius.
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On 2006-03-19 22:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So, I started this post a few days ago and have really been thinking about the topic. I thought that I would check and see from someone else, if I indeed imagine this about myself, or do I truelly posses an extremely sharp tounge. Well, to say the least, I now have yet another very EX friend. Why? Because I'm a fucking genius."
:nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :grin:
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On 2006-03-16 11:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So i got into it via email with a now very EX childhood friend. Staying true to my ways I am quite certain I got the last word in.
So it dawned on me, i am really good at verbal assault. Not only can I by far outmatch my opponents, i walk away with little regard about anything i said, and really don't care much about what was said to me as well.
And so I ask you all: Is this a direct result of Straight? Have I forever been desensitized to such things? Or maybe I was born with such meaness.
Any thoughts?"
Probably your ex friend will shoot you in the kneecaps the next time they see you.
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..because you're a "fucking genius" :lol:
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yes, i'm a fucking genius!!!
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fucking GENIUS!
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(http://http://www.terranuts.com/forums/images/smilies/genius.png)
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Any more geniuses out there? :wave:
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bump our stuff.....
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Oh snap! ::bigmouth:: ::bigmouth:: ::bigmouth::