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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: none-ya on June 04, 2013, 02:27:23 AM
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Does anybody have any knowledge of this place? I know somebody on their way there as an adult.
http://lamistad.com/ (http://lamistad.com/)
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Does anybody have any knowledge of this place? I know somebody on their way there as an adult.
http://lamistad.com/ (http://lamistad.com/)
It's NATSAP (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/search.php), but apart from that I can't tell you much.
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I have been emailing. There will be a piece about it on the blog 1000 places You don't want to be as a teenager (http://http://1000placesudontwanttobe.wordpress.com/) later this month. The blog is run by another organization but we have some contacts over there willing to share what they got.
I got some links to these two statements, which is easy to Google:
The first statement can be found on Greatschools.com
Parents please make sure your child qualifies for this facility. It has been my experience that behavioral problems ADD, ADHD, ODD, …are not suitable for La Amistad. Our child picked up horrendous habits while going there and was interacting and manipulated by kids much older. As a parent who will do anything for my child I am extremely disappointed with the care we received. I need help for my child and the time spent at La Amistad has made it much worse.
The second is from the Facebook group "I survived La Amistad"
…and treatment by those councelours and therapists was so fake. The only way we ever got out of there is because we helped eachother. It’s either that, or certain people turned 18 and checked themselves out. Haha
It seems that they are one of those facilities which can cure everything according to their marketing. It cannot be done.
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Thanks Oscar, I will pass info on to my friends.
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Oscar, could you send links. Can't even find the FB group.
Thanks.
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None-ya,
Have you seen this?
http://www.heal-online.org/lame.htm (http://www.heal-online.org/lame.htm)
I went to google Rodney Letterman's name and it popped right up on google. I'll do a bit more googling and poke around facebook for you as well. Hope your friend is doing ok. Rough business all around I'm guessing.
I'd say stay strong but that sounds way too AA like.
Get strong, then kill!
That's the reddit way.
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Damn, I bet the group oscar is talking about is a hidden private one. I looked for 20 minutes and couldn't find anything on it.
Prolly for the better given how persistent programs are about infiltrating facebook groups.
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It's a long and complicated story. My friend (after being Baker acted) is covered by family insurance that will only pay for La Amistad because of location. I'm not comfortable discussing details. But I said I would find out what I can (which hasn't been much). That might not be the right name for the fb group. Can't find anything but their own website. Where's Ursus when you need the bear?
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Isn't the baker act for 72 hours max?
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Isn't the baker act for 72 hours max?
Can be longer if voluntary.
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Hmmm... yeah that doesn't sound comforting at all. I wonder what sort of pressure is going to be put on him to stay? A full bed is a paying bed after all. Who is set on him going to La Amistad? Him? Family?
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I have mailed the links but I don't know if the mail system works.
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Hmmm... yeah that doesn't sound comforting at all. I wonder what sort of pressure is going to be put on him to stay? A full bed is a paying bed after all. Who is set on him going to La Amistad? Him? Family?
This was more or less an intervention by the family. This is not a case of drug abuse. It's mental illness. This has been on going. From a therapeutic boarding school, countless doctors,counselors,and friends. I'm not a fan of this place from what little I've been able to find so far. From what I gather Grandpa's insurance will pay for this place. Coming back home isn't an option at this point.
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Hmmm... not sure what to say... can you find out if he'll be able to speak to you when he's in there? If so, call him daily, try to make sure the program knows he has people outside who care.
you might try www.mindfreedom.org (http://www.mindfreedom.org)
They specialize in dealing with mental health facilities like this one if I'm not mistaken. In fact, I'd have your friend give them a call along with the Disabilities Rights people in Florida. Have him ask both of them to advocate for him by keeping Amistad on notice that screwing with him isn't going to go unchallenged.
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Mad Pride? Were here,were crazy,get over it! What am I missing here?
I'd really love to find the La Amistad FB page.
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The other person to contact, Blombrowski, I'm fairly certain his field ties into this sort of thing and might have useful advice based on actual experience.
Didn't Oscar send you the group link?
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Searched all over fb and found nothing
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While I'm sure the adolescent treatment facility is more steeped in the philosophies of NATSAP members, as far as your friend goes, I'm guessing he's going to experience a fairly typical adult psychiatric hospital with follow-up day programming at La Amistad's outpatient programs.
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I believe he's not going to be an out patient.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but typically an involuntary hospitalization is only allowed for up to 72 hours in Florida. I can imagine that your friend is likely to be placed in a position where he's involuntarily hospitalized, and then discharged to outpatient treatment coerced under the threat of rehospitalization. So no, he wouldn't be immediately placed in outpatient care, but if it's the insurance company that's going to pay for hospitalization, he's not going to be hospitalized that long, and as La Amistad has the full range of psychiatric services, I imagine they will self-refer to their outpatient clinic/day treatment program.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Mental_Health_Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Mental_Health_Act)
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I'm not sure how that's going to work. La Amistad is aprox. 100 miles from their home. And I don't believe he's welcome at home. So it will probably lead to some sort of involuntary placement.
To Oscar, please check again the FB group address. I still can't find it. So far you're the only one that has. Thanks.
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I don't know what the adult housing system is in Florida, but I imagine he will be hospitalized then the social workers at La Amistad will try to get him approved for SSI and Medicaid, and try to find him housing, if his parents are kicking him out of the house. Your friend could refuse all of this, and after the 72 hour hold, sign him self out into homelessness.
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Well he's is getting the boot from home. If they can help him get SSI and medicaid, that would be a good thing. I guess it has to be better than commitment to a state hospital. Right?
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And if he has one of his panic attacks while there?
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Yes, I'm going to say better than the state hospital. I can't vouch for how well he'll be treated, or how good the treatment will actually be. But he's an adult. I'm going to take a shot in the dark, and guess he smokes a lot of pot to deal with his overwhelming anxiety, and his parents aren't too thrilled to have him at home because of that.
As long as he's being treated for mental health issues as opposed to substance abuse issues, I think he'll be ok, the hospital has all of the incentive to not screw him over too much. And if he has a panic attack, it's not like they're going to send him to the state hospital over a panic attack.
To conclude, I don't think he's being sent to a "program". He's being sent to a psychiatric facility that could either be terrible or decent. Unless his parents are going to pay out of pocket for the program and the hospital tries to keep him there involuntarily, if it's really that bad he'll be able to sign himself out.
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Again he's not much of a druggie. This is a person who is just chronically malcontented. Never happy, never smiles. Just like his mom. Always fighting with Grand Pa and Grand Ma. And they're not gonna' put up with it any more. I understand their frustration. We'll just see how it goes. Thanx everybody
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Update? how is your friend doing?
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He's doing 30 days and from there I have no idea. Homelessness is a real possibility. Going home is more than likely out of the question.