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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 13, 2006, 03:00:08 AM
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Thought the name Kreg Gillman sounded familiar.
Former CEO of Provo Canyon
Former Director Sunhawk Academy
Now owner of Silverado Boys Ranch, a therapeutic boarding school
http://www.silveradoboysranch.com (http://www.silveradoboysranch.com)
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What is the cost and what does it include?
Our rate is $5500.00 and is billed on a monthly basis. There is a one time enrollment fee of $1800.00 that includes preliminary assessments, ranch uniforms, and quarterly Family Workshops. We require first and last month's tuition at the time of enrollment. We also request each parent provide an initial $400.00 for a student account that will cover amenities (after the first month), weekly student allowance, and special outings. Parents will be responsible for transportation costs to the facility, to and from the airport for visits, and for off-campus medical trips.
WHOAH!! Pricey$$$$$
Do THAT many parents have THAT much cash laying around to spend every month... I am impressed.
Of course, this place is a total joke.. a rip off in every way including their vocabulary and website design.. and they add on another 40% to the price for some reason.. maybe it's all those red rocks.
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Does the ranch accept insurance?
Silverado Boys Ranch does not contract with insurance companies, third party payors, or government agencies. We are a therapeutic boarding school, not a medical facility, so we do not itemize expenses for billing.
What kinds of students are admitted to the ranch?
Students come to Silverado Boys Ranch with a wide range of emotional, social, and academic challenges. Many of our students struggle with lack of confidence and/or low self-esteem. Often these challenges are manifested through negative behavior and deteriorating family relationships.
:roll:
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Equine
One of the most unique aspects of our program at the ranch is the use of horses to assist students in the attainment of treatment goals. This program is directed by trained professionals who focus on safety and therapeutic interventions. The techniques developed by the ranch staff are designed to raise issues underlying the student?s behavior that might not surface during traditional therapy. Students and their families can participate in Equine Assisted Psychotherapy (EAP) and experience team building, communication, and problem solving skills that will enhance their self-esteem. This program has received national recognition and is a significant part of each student?s experience at the ranch. In addition to therapeutic activities, students may participate in a variety of activities through the EAP program including western riding, cattle driving, and rodeo events.
so for 6g's a month you get "horse therapy" (holding in laughter) AND
Substance Abuse
A significant percentage of our students come to the ranch with a substance abuse history. We believe that an important goal of the program is create an environment that is abstinent and recovery focused. Treatment goals will be developed for students who come to the ranch with a history of substance abuse. Substance abuse groups will be held as well as participation in recovery groups such as Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous. All students will receive education and information regarding substance abuse regardless of their history with illegal substances.
BIG SURPRISE!! A program took AA/NA and adopted for themselves to profit from, what a shocker. (thought they didnt handle medical issues like drug abuse hmm interesting)
That's all the therapy they list. Horses, and AA/NA.
Are they joking?
Are parents retarded?
All of the above?
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To all of you who are unitiated, $5500/month is cheap for a program nowadays.
And shoveling horsehit all day instead of getting a real education can be very therapeutic. The tuition is remarkably affordable, considering all that horseshit-shoveling therapy the kids get there!
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Get your money for nothin'
and your ranch hands for free...
What a sweet deal.
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typical LEVELS Program:
Kids not allow unsupervised telephone contact with parents until they reach level T-2 (how or when they reach this level, who knows?)
Typical Peer Culture behavior enforcements which according to their website is "supportive in confrontive" manner.
Although the program maintains it is NOT a medical facility, and WILL NOT itemize expenses for billing to parents' insurance companies:
It does state it has a MEDICAL STAFF....and goes on to state that "cabin coaches" oversee administration of medications.
Schooling takes place from 1PM until 8:30 PM.
And, of course--there is the Horse Equine program. Gotta have that!
Bottom line:
Kregg Gillman, Robert Crist, Nick Pakidko, and Denise Westman:
ALL former PROVO CANYON folks.
Need there be any more said?
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Throat bile... rising.
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Bottom line:
Kregg Gillman, Robert Crist, Nick Pakidko, and Denise Westman:
ALL former PROVO CANYON folks.
Need there be any more said?
Ahh. The staff problem. They really need to be thrown in jail after their programs close you know. Screw suing them. Just bring criminal charges on their asses (not that criminal records ever prevented people from getting jobs in these places).
Sure suing them gets you cash and the program closes down but the staff just have their buddies get them new jobs.
Has anybody looked into details of Lon Woodbury's background. Maybe choking off the life blood of theses schools would help shut them down. Isn't there something somebody can nail him with?
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As recent staff member at Silverado boys ranch,,I can tell you that what they tell you about there program is a fairy tale. The only thing RANCH about the place is the sign over the entrance to the place. There are no ranch activities what so ever for the boys to do at silverado. There are no horse's,no cattle,no sheep, no goats,no chickens,no ducks etc. They have no daily ranch chores to do. I know, I was a coach there for a little over 3 months. When I first was hired on I was looking forward to spending time with the boys and taking them on horse rides and teaching them about horse's and going camping and fishing and hiking, all sorts of activities. But that enthusiasim soon dwindled as I came to the reality that none of those things were going to happen.In my short time at Silverado I was allowed to take the boys out on only 4 different activities. The rest of the time I was expected to just sit in the cabin with them and escort them to breakfast ,lunch and ,dinner. And they were allowed a whopping 1/2 an hour in the evenings in the gym. Some times we got to spend an hour there. Most of the time the boys and there coach really had nothing to do! At first when I was hired on they had three horse's there.[If you could call them horse's. really they were nothing more than two bit nags. Ready for the glue factory.] But there was no equine program. I suggested that they get going with one and I would love to be a part of it, but that went in one ear and out the other. It never happened. And to this day it is the same. The coaches when I was at silverado were pretty good ol boys that really wanted to help the boys out and get involved with them. But the administration would constantly tie there hands, and never do anything but administer there form of disipline.[They called it treatment]. I got to know the boys in my cabin pretty well when I was there, at first they didnt like me,,,I know cause they told me so.But after I was terminated the first time and came back,,,they all told me how glad they were that I was able to come back. They all told me how mad they were when they heard that I had been fired. But the addministration at silverado does not care whether or not the boys get along with there coach. They are only concerned about the money they can rake in. If you are a parent considering taking your child to Silverado,,Think twice about it. Dont believe every thing you read on there website. Frankly you can send your child to any inner city program and they will get the same thing that they get at Silverado. You dont need to send them way out west just to sit in the cabin and watch tv.
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To all of you who are unitiated, $5500/month is cheap for a program nowadays.
And shoveling horsehit all day instead of getting a real education can be very therapeutic. The tuition is remarkably affordable, considering all that horseshit-shoveling therapy the kids get there!
That would be true if there were any horse's there to provide the shit for them to shovel.
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Equine
One of the most unique aspects of our program at the ranch is the use of horses to assist students in the attainment of treatment goals. This program is directed by trained professionals who focus on safety and therapeutic interventions. The techniques developed by the ranch staff are designed to raise issues underlying the student?s behavior that might not surface during traditional therapy. Students and their families can participate in Equine Assisted Psychotherapy (EAP) and experience team building, communication, and problem solving skills that will enhance their self-esteem. This program has received national recognition and is a significant part of each student?s experience at the ranch. In addition to therapeutic activities, students may participate in a variety of activities through the EAP program including western riding, cattle driving, and rodeo events.
That is a fairy tale! Silverado has no EQUINE ASSISTED PSYCHOTHERAPY! They dont even have any horse's there! And they certainly dont let the boys particapate in any rodeo events. And they cant do any cattle driving when they dont have any cattle. ::deadhorse::
so for 6g's a month you get "horse therapy" (holding in laughter) AND
Substance Abuse
A significant percentage of our students come to the ranch with a substance abuse history. We believe that an important goal of the program is create an environment that is abstinent and recovery focused. Treatment goals will be developed for students who come to the ranch with a history of substance abuse. Substance abuse groups will be held as well as participation in recovery groups such as Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous. All students will receive education and information regarding substance abuse regardless of their history with illegal substances.
BIG SURPRISE!! A program took AA/NA and adopted for themselves to profit from, what a shocker. (thought they didnt handle medical issues like drug abuse hmm interesting)
That's all the therapy they list. Horses, and AA/NA.
Are they joking?
Are parents retarded?
All of the above?
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Always nice to see former staff come around. Welcome.
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Equine
One of the most unique aspects of our program at the ranch is the use of horses to assist students in the attainment of treatment goals. This program is directed by trained professionals who focus on safety and therapeutic interventions. The techniques developed by the ranch staff are designed to raise issues underlying the student?s behavior that might not surface during traditional therapy. Students and their families can participate in Equine Assisted Psychotherapy (EAP) and experience team building, communication, and problem solving skills that will enhance their self-esteem. This program has received national recognition and is a significant part of each student?s experience at the ranch. In addition to therapeutic activities, students may participate in a variety of activities through the EAP program including western riding, cattle driving, and rodeo events.
That is a fairy tale! Silverado has no EQUINE ASSISTED PSYCHOTHERAPY! They dont even have any horse's there! And they certainly dont let the boys particapate in any rodeo events. And they cant do any cattle driving when they dont have any cattle. ::deadhorse::
If you look on Silverado's web site you will see that they boast over 200 acres with all kinds of activities to do on a DAILY basis. They say your child WILL BE INVOLVED IN OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES EVRY DAY! That is not true. They have no daily out door activities that they boast about on there web site.They have no 4 wheelers that the boys get to ride. They only go camping 2 or three times a year. There entire camping gear consist of about 50 old sleeping bags for the boys. They have no tents. The staff take there RV's and the boys sleep on the ground.There is no boating activities on the property. They dont get to go fishing.
so for 6g's a month you get "horse therapy" (holding in laughter) AND
Substance Abuse
A significant percentage of our students come to the ranch with a substance abuse history. We believe that an important goal of the program is create an environment that is abstinent and recovery focused. Treatment goals will be developed for students who come to the ranch with a history of substance abuse. Substance abuse groups will be held as well as participation in recovery groups such as Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous. All students will receive education and information regarding substance abuse regardless of their history with illegal substances.
BIG SURPRISE!! A program took AA/NA and adopted for themselves to profit from, what a shocker. (thought they didnt handle medical issues like drug abuse hmm interesting)
That's all the therapy they list. Horses, and AA/NA.
Are they joking?
Are parents retarded?
All of the above?
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Now they even call it Silverado Academy because they have started to detain girls.
We will update our datasheet (http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Silverado_Academy) with this new information.
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I was there for 2 and a half years. I was there for longer any other student.
I'll admit as much as I disliked it in the beginning it really helped me. After my first 8 months they fired the great staff that helped and just kept the ones who would stay if they dropped the wages. The only people they have in direct contact with the students are felons and drug users.
Kreg Gillman hated my guts. Denise Westman hated my guts. Eric Fawson was the worst, I hate him and his ginger family. There all terrible people and should be shot. They will do anything to cover up abuse.
This place should be shut down, parents should be refunded for the cost. The owners and staff should face criminal charges for the physical and mental abuse.
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Related thread re:Silverado Academy Eric Allen Glosson charged with 8 counts of forcible sex abuse. Also, suit against Silverado Academy filed citing woeful negligence in their oversight and supervision. Attorneys for the plaintiffs say, overall the Silverado Academy "manifested a knowing and reckless indifference toward, and a disregard of the rights" of the children and their parents.” -Attorneys say “10 victims only the tip of the iceberg” (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37458&p=402148#p402148)
http://www.silveradoacademy.com/index.php?/staff (http://www.silveradoacademy.com/index.php?/staff) The circumstances surrounding allegations that Glosson was fired in 2009 for “inappropriate relations with students” 1or for “being too close to the teenagers in the program”2 only to be rehired again at some point in 2010 (until he was charged for forcible sexual abuses of several children at Silverado Academy) are certainly as curious as they are alarming. I gues anyone, but Roxy, Kolby and Barney could have more to say about that.
1. Desert News Article Attorneys Claim 10 sex abuse victims just the tip of the iceberg (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=402146#p402146)
2. Salt Lake Tribune Article titled“Families sue Utah school over alleged sex abuse by counselor” (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=402148#p402148)
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Jeesh, this wasn't a lack of supervision problem this is just a "I don't care" problem.