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Pretty good stocks really. Phillip Morris is under Altria (MO on the NYSE; $63.72)and Jim Beam is under Fortune Brand (FO on the NYSE; 81.26)--good dividend stocks.

Personally I'd much rather be trading marijuana on the Nasdaq then giving up money to cops and criminals and criminal rehab centers. Nahh, put it on the NYSE: POT.

I say, legalize it all and let Wall Street be the judge.

I'm down for it.

I thank you all for posting on this forum, and what you do is very important. You certainly saved my son from going to some insane program. I was going to send him to a wilderness program, thinking it was like...I don't know...communing with nature, and I researched and came across newspaper articles and this site and was apalled at the criminality and fraud related to these programs and schools.

But here's the thing: the people who advocate for these programs and schools or the people who respond to the "negative" posts do more harm than the people trying to do harm. They are either viscious and nasty or sound like programmed robots. Either way--it's effective.

If you are a parent who sends their kids away to one of these facilities after reading this forum or if you have a child at one of these facilities, and you don't bring him/her home--you deserve to be in the care of the Department of Corrections.

the above was from me--i forgot to log in.

Yeh, they have a very high suicide rate. I've known a lot of holocaust survivors, but I don't know any who thank the Germans for improving their survival skills or giving them a new appreciation on life. I know a woman, who's around 80, and she got sent to Auschwitz when she was a teenager, and every time you talk to her, the conversation becomes about Auschwitz within 15 minutes. Kids from homes of holocaust survivors have no easy time either because the parents often still live in constant fear. I knew someone who had to call home every 10 minutes to let her mother know she was okay. I mean, literally, every 10 minutes. There's always this atmosphere of an impending catastrophe, an opressive sense of impending doom. People like that Yeats quote "Whatever doesn't kill you will make you stronger," but Yeats was a bit of a nut and also a drunk. He also believed he could raise the dead.

Add Carlbrook to the list.   ::boohoo::  Honestly, from the website, it looks legitimate and much different than the usual fare. Check it out because this may be the new mask: http://www.carlbrook.org/home.htm   :skull:



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Do you know what the suicide rate is among "surviving" holocaust victims? Do you know any holocaust survivors? Do you know any children of holocaust survivors?

Your comparison may be apt, but you better get over the thinking that people came out of concentration camps feeling good about life.
That's right up there with Black people being thankful for slavery because it gave them a better appreciation of freedom.

I'm originally from that part of the country and still usually visit southside Va. 2-3 months a year.

One way to find out if this school is NOT bogus is to call and ask how many day students attend. The public schools in Halifax County are terrible and more dangerous than surrounding counties. Still, there is a hospital so there are lots of doctors with money there. Those doctors tend to send their kids to the Fuqua School, which is 60 miles north. There are so many kids coming from Halifax, Fuqua provides an "express bus." Moreover, parents got together and rented a house so they and kids had a place to crash after sports events, weekend activities, etc. Still, bussing a kid 60 miles to school every day is not ideal and I KNOW that if there were a reasonable school in the area, these parents would certainly choose it. If there are NO day students, forget it.

I looked at the website and though there are some things that are typically Virginian, like the honor system and though the writing smacks of educationese "critical thinking," etc. I looked at the staff, and they are associated with Swift River, Cascade, there are some graduates of Brigham Young--but they do seem to have a real faculty. However, I'd call them, tell them I'm moving to the area and understand the public school system is terrible, and though Fuqua (K-12)(pronounced Foo-Kwah) was recommended, you hate the idea of your child taking a bus 60 miles to school every day.
EVERY reputable boarding and military school in VA. takes day students (in fact--that goes for everywhere) and if they don't take day students--you don't want to know from it. Private schools in this area are in great demand and a lot of parents send their kids to reputable boarding schools so they can simply get a good education
without traveling a zillion miles every day.

Kelly was the sane one in the family.

I was thinking that her school would have a record of where she transferred, but I wonder if these schools even ask for records. And even if her old school did--I don't know how I'd get my hands on them.

Now I'm thinking about other kids who disappeared without a trace. Kelly's brother was shipped off somewhere for about a year before he came home and OD'd on heroin. I assumed he was at Hazeldon. But some of the kids I'm thinking of were not bad kids at all. Now I feel like I'm getting paranoid and delusional or else living in Nazi Germany and people are mysteriously disappearing. At first, you don't notice. People leave suddenly. Then it happens again--you think--that's odd--then it happens again and it is starting to seem really strange, then you hear rumors about concentration camps...

oh, and I saw some of these schools were accredited by the Northwest something or other out of Utah--it's recognized accreditation--but they'll give accreditaion to a school of fish. But then, you probably already know that. The Aspen Academy advertises they take Blue Cross/Blue Shield--how legit does that sound? I'm just dumbstruck by the enormity of this.