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Quote from: "Froderik"
Quote from: "Horatio"
I also want to thank you. Danny you have our support.
It just boggles my mind when I see the abuse these guys throw around. Why?? Because Danny got angry with Matt and exposed a stabbing incident, he wouldn't take Felice's abuse or any of the other Elanians verbal attacks. So you guys went out and got this guy Wayne K. to write a book characterizing Elan which was good but then you could not stop there, NO, you just had to lie and get back at Danny. Accuse him of abuse he never committed.
See we have totally gotten away from what started this whole stupid fight, Danny stood up for himself.
You folks have tried your best to use his brief employment against him and have gone so far to fabricate evidence when nothing else worked.
Danny has talked with every one of you on the phone more then once (many times) in the past. All of you have stated he really wasn't a staff member he was to young. I over heard along with others several of these conversations, you were on speaker phone. These conversations have been taped for future reference. Why is it in private you are so congenial and out in public you are like monsters towards him.
You are phonies all of you.

Uh, YOU are the phony here.


Elan School / Book Promotion 101
« on: February 01, 2012, 02:19:39 PM »
Quote from: "Troublemaker"

Dude is giving away his other book free, but the one that's free is $2.99

I don't get it?????????????

.......shameless self promotion^^^^^^^^^^^

I wonder why Daniel Lee Bennison did not sue Wayne Kernochan for calling him a RAPIST.
So what if Wayne has no money.
Those are serious allegations in that book.
Much too serious to sit around on a Forum calling each other names.

Daniel Lee Bennison AND Wayne Kernochan are selling a book. ::fullofshit::


hmmmmmmmm the plot thickens

Feed Your Head / Re: Mentally stimulating Documentaries. preferably free.
« on: December 23, 2011, 02:22:48 AM »
Inside LSD-Full Length Documentary


Tacitus' Realm / Proposed Joint Resolution No.666 Supporting Israel
« on: December 02, 2011, 10:06:05 AM »
Proposed Joint Resolution No.666 Supporting Israel

1. As you all know, we here at Mantiq al-Tayr always try to be of service. In light of the recent events in international waters in the Mediterranean where hoards of peace activists landed by helicopter at night onto the decks of helpless Israeli commando boats and beat the shit out of the commandos, killed somewhere between 10 and 20 of them, and then hauled these commando boats and their pacifist commando passengers to Tehran where they were forced to sign papers written in Farsi that said they acknowledge that Israeli hummus is nothing but a cheap imitation of the  hummus served to Hasan Nasrallah every morning; in light of all this, the whole team here at Mantiq al-Tayr has jumped to action. In order to save time for Israel’s representatives in both the US House and Senate – many of whom have been on vacation – probably in Israel or maybe even at “Man’s Country” – we have drawn up a joint House and Senate resolution condemning the violence perpetrated against Israel and supporting as violent an Israeli response as possible. This joint resolution is based on the Senate resolution back in January of 2009, sponsored by Senator Harry Reid (Likud, Nevada) and co-sponsored by 31 other Senators that sided with Israel in its self defense against the murderous women and children of the Gaza Strip.

We suggest cutting and pasting the draft resolution below and faxing it to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid as well as to your own representatives and that you demand that they bring this resolution to a vote by June 8th, 2010.

Now, now, I can hear you all bitching and moaning “Mantiq, we don’t even know who are representatives are, never mind their fax numbers. We gave up on the government years ago. We’d like to help, but we don’t know where to turn.”

Once again it’s Mantiq to the rescue. First of all, here is Nancy Pelosi’s fax number:  202-225-8259

Here is Harry Reid’s fax number: 202-224-7327

And  here you can get the fax numbers of every single Representative and Senator.

Below is the proposed text of Joint Resolution 666. Fax away folks.

Joint Senate and House Resolution 666

Whereas the Freegaza movement is dedicated to the destruction of Israel and of the Jewish people;

Whereas Rache Corrie got what she deserved;

Whereas members of both Houses are on a mission from God to serve the state of Israel;

Whereas the majority of members of Congress place Israel’s interest over those of the American people;

Whereas the aforementioned members of Congress are a bunch of pussies when it comes to standing up to Israel;

Whereas the Zionist Lobby has a death grip on the entire legislative branch;

Whereas some members of the Senate, such as Charles Schumer, play roles which are “very important in the United States senate, which is for us to be shomers guardians to be a or the shomers of Yisrael. And we will continue to be that with every bone in our bodies…”

Whereas other members of the legislative branch, such as Deborah Wasserman-Schultz, “ want to be able to maximize our abilities to advance the interests of Israel”;

Whereas both chambers of the Legislative branch agree with Ms. Wasserman-Schultz  when she stated “The more advocates for Israel in America, the better.”

Whereas other members of Congress, such as Jane Harman – known to many Americans as “Mossad Jane” – are in close contact with Israeli agents;

Whereas the “Israel Project’s” advisory board is composed of one American actor and 22 members of the House and Senate, to wit:

?Evan Bayh D-IN
?Ben Cardin, D-MD
?Saxby Chambliss, R-GA
?Tom Coburn R-OK
?Norm Coleman, R-MN
?Susan Collins, R-ME
?Judd Gregg, R NH
?Joe Lieberman, I-CT
?Bill Nelson, D-FL
?Gordon Smith, R-OR
?Arlen Specter, R-PA
?Ron Wyden, D-OR
?Rob Andrews, D-NJ
?Shelley Berkley, D-NV
?Tom Davis, R-VA
?Eliot Engel, D-NY
?Frank Pallone, D-NJ
?Jon Porter, R-NV
?John Sarbanes, D-MD
?Jim Saxton, R-NJ
?Brad Sherman, D-CA
?Joe Wilson, R-SC
?Ron Silver, Actor & Director

Whereas many members of the House and the Senate have received free trips to Israel and have flown on Israel Project helicopters so as to see how serious the threat of peace in the region is to Israel’s well-being;

Whereas many members of the House and Senate are sex perverts whose pictures no doubt grace the walls of the classified spaces in the Israeli embassy in Washington DC;

Whereas Wayne Madsen has exposed one of our favorite hideouts in Chicago, “Man’s Country”, which now we can’t go to anymore thanks to White House proclivities in the same direction and man that pisses us off, now it’s back to tapping our shoes in mens’ bathrooms and we can’t tell you how much that sucks, but we digress;

Whereas many of us are being blackmailed;

Whereas we are all a bunch of cowards;

Whereas we support Israel’s murder of not only as many Palestinians as possible but also of the men of the USS LIBERTY;

Whereas we never did a f**king thing about the USS LIBERTY and never will;

Whereas the Executive Branch is riddled with Israeli spies;

Resolved,  that the Senate and the House –

(1)    express vigorous support and unwavering commitment to the welfare, security, and survival of the State of Israel as a Jewish and racist state with ever-expanding borders, and recognize its right to act in self-defense to protect its citizens by engaging in the wanton murder of defenseless civilians – men, women and children – even if and especially if these individuals are American citizens;

(2)   encourage the Israeli Genocidal Forces (IGF) to torpedo the MV Rachel Corrie the same way they torpedoed the USS LIBERTY, only this time we ask that the IGF not f**k this one up and actually sink the ship and blame it on Iran;

(3)   demand that the Palestinians who dare to live in Judea and Samaria, the Gaza Strip, and inside the so-called green-line, renounce their God-given given rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, just as our founding fathers would have had them do;

(4)   believe strongly that the US must commit to fighting more wars for Israel and hence recommend that the Joint Chiefs of Staff be placed directly under the command of the head of Israel’s armed forces so as make de-jure what is already de-facto.

(5) Will move Washington, D.C. to Jerusalem. Enough disingenuous hypocrisy is enough. We are Israel and there is NO light between Israel and the U.S;
(appropriate moment of grovelling and Israeli ass-kissing, holding of breath, and continue)

(6) blame Iran for EVERYTHING that has EVER happened that the U.S. simply does NOT like;

(7) cannot wait to double Israel’s annual tribute, in line with the ‘Shoah business’ slogan of ‘Six billion for six million!;

(8 ) support changing the 50 stars in the American flag to six-pointed ones instead of five-pointed ones. And how about just two wide blue stripes, instead of all them pinko red ones?;

(9) nominate Nancy Pelosi to sing the Israeli national anthem ‘Hatikvah’ to open the World Series, repeating her performance of singing it to a Jewish lobby group in the aftermath of 9/11;

(10) demand changing the name of the US dollar to the ‘shekel,’ so that collaborationist Christianity [a/k/a 'Judaism for Gentiles'] can solicit its dwindling membership to contribute ‘shekels for Shabbat,’ for Christ’s sake;

(11) recommend the US Navy string an eruv around the entire border and seacoast of the U.S., with federal funding under the ‘Freedom to Schlep Act’;

(12) will double federal funding for the U.S. Holocaust Museum to $60 million, under the Shoah business slogan of ‘six gets you sixty’;

(13) will order the Library of Congress to annex the Balfour Declaration to the U.S. Declaration of Independence;

(14) proudly proclaim May 14th, the date of Israel’s founding, as a paid holiday for Congress and federal workers;

(15) endorse Israel’s right to proclaim victimhood 365 days a year and 366 days during leap years.

2. If you would like to add items to either the “Whereas” or “Resolved” sections, post them in the comments. If they are approved by the team here, I’ll add them to the body of the resolution.

News Items / Re: GAO Investigates Drugging Foster Kids
« on: December 01, 2011, 10:36:29 AM »
Taxpayer money used to overmedicate foster children


Children in foster care in five states are taking psychotropic drugs at a rate "two to over four times higher" than non-foster children in Medicaid according to a draft of a new government report obtained by CBS News.

Data in the new report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) shows that in the five states examined, 609 foster children and over 1,100 non-foster children were taking five or more psychotropic drugs at one time, a "high-risk practice" that lacks sufficient scientific data, according to experts consulted for the study. The report also found that over 20,000 foster and non-foster children were taking dosages that "exceeded the maximum standards published in medical literature."

Read a draft of the GAO report:http://

Psychotropic drugs are used to treat mental disorders in adults and in some cases are approved for use in children. Data from five states: Oregon, Florida, Massachusetts, Michigan and Texas was included in the report.

"The GAO report will hopefully spur states to strengthen their oversight and control over the effective management of psychotropic medications prescribed to youth in foster care," said Dr. Mark Olfson, Professor of Clinical Psychiatry at Columbia University who authored the key 2009 study on foster children and anti-psychotic use, "For foster children with psychiatric disorders, careful medication management strategies are central to improving quality of care," he said.

Almost 40 percent of children in the Massachusetts foster care system are taking at least one psychotropic drug according to the report that is raising concerns among officials at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

In a recent letter to state Medicaid directors obtained by CBS News, the head of the U.S. Administration for Children and Families said the agency has become "increasingly concerned about the safe, appropriate and effective use of psychotropic medications among children in foster care."

The report also found almost 4,000 foster and non-foster care infants - under a year old - on Medicaid in five states were taking psychotropic drugs. Researchers said the risks these drugs pose to children are "not well understood".

The five states in the report spent $375 million for psychotropic prescriptions for children covered by Medicaid including $59 million for children in foster care.

The GAO report will be the subject of a Senate hearing Thursday on Capitol Hill.
ABC NEWS: New Study Shows U.S. Government Fails to Oversee Treatment of Foster Children With Mind-Altering Drugs



Nov. 30, 2011

The federal government has not done enough to oversee the treatment of America's foster children with powerful mind-altering drugs, according to a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report to be released Thursday.

ABC News was given exclusive access to the GAO report, which capped off a nationwide yearlong investigation by ABC News on the overuse of the most powerful mind-altering drugs on many of the country's nearly 425,000 foster children.

The GAO's report, based on a two-year-long investigation, looked at five states -- Florida, Massachusetts, Michigan, Oregon and Texas. Thousands of foster children were being prescribed psychiatric medications at doses higher than the maximum levels approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in these five states alone. And hundreds of foster children received five or more psychiatric drugs at the same time despite absolutely no evidence supporting the simultaneous use or safety of this number of psychiatric drugs taken together.

GAO Key Findings

Overall, the GAO looked at nearly 100,000 foster children in the five states and found that nearly one-third of foster children were prescribed at least one psychiatric drug.

The GAO found foster children were prescribed psychotropic drugs at rates up to nearly five times higher than non-foster children, with foster children in Texas being the most likely to receive the medications compared to foster children in the other four states.

Although the actual percentages of children who received five or more psychiatric drugs at the same time were low in the five states included in the GAO report, the chances of a foster child compared to a non-foster child being given five or more psychiatric drugs at the same time were alarming.

In Texas, foster children were 53 times more likely to be prescribed five or more psychiatric medications at the same time than non-foster children. In Massachusetts, they were 19 times more likely. In Michigan, the number was 15 times. It was 13 times in Oregon. And in Florida, foster children were nearly four times as likely to be given five or more psychotropic medications at the same time compared to non-foster children.

Initially part of GAO's investigation, Maryland was later excluded from GAO's analysis "due to the unreliability of their foster care data" according to the report, a problem ABC News learned many states face.

Foster children were also more than nine times more likely than non-foster children to be prescribed drugs for which there was no FDA-recommended dose for their age.

For the most vulnerable foster children, those less than 1 year old, foster children were nearly twice as likely to be prescribed a psychiatric drug compared to non-foster children.

When Sen. Thomas Carper, D-Del., lead requestor of the GAO report, first learned of the report's findings, he said, "I was almost despondent to believe that the kids under the age of one, babies under the age of one were receiving this kind of medication."

ABC News has reviewed dozens of medical studies published in recent years that echo GAO's findings -- research showing foster children receive psychiatric medications up to 13 times more often than kids in the general population.

In some parts of the country, as many as half of foster kids are on one or more psychiatric medications. This, compared to just 4 percent of kids in the general population.

Dr. George Fouras, a child psychiatrist and co-chairman of the Adoption and Foster Care Committee of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry (AACAP), said, "There is an incredible push to use medications to solve these problems as if it is a magic wand."

The stories include kids like 11-year-old Ke'onte from Texas, whose journey was documented by ABC News over the past year and who will be testifying before Congress on Thursday about the overuse of psychiatric medications in foster children.

Neglected and often left home alone with his 1-year old sister, Ke'onte became a ward of the state at the tender age of four. Ke'onte was placed with a relative who, he said, beat him with belts, switches, and extension cords -- which not only left him with the physical scars on his body he showed ABC News, but, understandably, with anger and despair.

Simply too much for the relative, the state of Texas bounced Ke'onte between six foster homes and hospitals over just four years.

Along the way, Ke'onte's trauma was treated with an onslaught of psychotropic drugs -- powerful mind-altering medicines like the mood-stabilizer Depakote, the stimulant Vyvanse, the antidepressant Lexapro, clonidine for ADHD and the antipsychotic Seroquel.

"I was put on bipolar meds. I am not bipolar at all," Ke'onte told ABC News' Diane Sawyer.

Ke'onte was on at least 12 psychiatric medications while in foster care, up to four of them at the same time.

"I was on a whole lot of medicines that I should have not been on," Ke'onte told ABC News.

READ: A Resource Guide for Children in Foster Care

But Ke'onte is lucky -- a member of a select group of foster kids, about one in 10, who leave state custody to enjoy the security and stability of being adopted by a loving family, according to the latest data from the Administration for Children and Families.

And his new family, Carol and Scott Cook, were on a mission to get Ke'onte off drugs; he is now in therapy, beginning to heal. Additionally, his doctor now says Ke'onte doesn't have ADHD and he's not bipolar.

Meds Aren't Always the Answer

While almost all experts acknowledge children in foster care have more emotional and behavioral issues, experts ABC News spoke to do not believe this alone justifies the magnitude of the overuse of psychiatric medications in this vulnerable population.

"The general consensus is that when you're treating young children, you always try behavioral intervention before you go to medication," said Dr. Charles Zeanah, director of child and adolescent psychiatry at Tulane University.

Experts are also beginning to question the accuracy of diagnoses such as bipolar disorder and other mental illnesses in children, especially in foster children who may not always have access to comprehensive mental health services.

Stephen Crystal, director of the Center for Education and Research on Mental Health Therapeutics at Rutgers University, said while foster kids may be three times as likely to be diagnosed with bipolar disorder, "the validity of these diagnoses is uncertain, and the fact of being in foster care may itself increase the likelihood of psychiatric conditions being diagnosed."
While the National Institute of Mental Health reports schizophrenia affects just 1 percent of the population and bipolar disorder less than 3 percent of the population, antipsychotics have become one of the top-selling classes of medications in the United States, with 2010 prescription sales of $16.2 billion, according to IMS Health.

Concerned about numerous reports of waste and the abuse of psychiatric medications in foster children, Republican and Democratic United States senators, led by Sen. Carper, requested an independent GAO investigation on the growing problem nearly two years ago.

In the five states included in this week's GAO report, more than $375 million was spent on psychiatric drugs in 2008, $200 million of which was spent in Texas alone.

Medicaid spends at least $6 billion a year, nearly 30 percent of its entire drug budget, on psychiatric drugs, more than double what was spent in 1999, according to the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services.

GAO Holds HHS Accountable

The GAO report is an indictment on HHS's oversight of the nation's foster care children and asks that "HHS consider endorsing guidance for states on best practices for overseeing psychotropic prescriptions for foster children."

Several factors may be contributing to the increasing number of psychotropic prescriptions for foster children: greater exposure to trauma before entering the foster care system, frequent changes in foster placements and lax oversight policies on the part of states.

"You know, there are a lot of people you need to talk to, to find out as much as you can about what the child's behavior is like in a variety of different situations before you make a determination that you're going to use something like a very powerful medication to treat them," Zeanah said.

The GAO found that Texas, Massachusetts, Michigan, Oregon, and Florida each "falls short of providing comprehensive oversight as defined by the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry" with regards to prescribing and overseeing the use of psychotropic drugs.

Currently, HHS simply provides "informational resources for states to consider for their programs" when it comes to psychotropic drugs provided to children in state custody according to the GAO.

States are not obligated to follow consent and oversight best principle guidelines set by the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry for medicating foster children.

However, many states are also not following oversight provisions required by law, according to the Child and Family Services Improvement and Innovation Act passed in September 2011 and the Fostering Connections to Success and Increasing Adoptions Act of 2008.

In addition to providing guidance, HHS also has the authority to withhold federal funds from states that do not comply with strengthened oversight measures.

Sen. Carper said Congress has a responsibility, too -- "to try to get to the bottom of this, and armed with that information, to make sure that behavior is changed, that's going to be beneficial to children."

HHS Sends Letter to States the Day Before Thanksgiving

HHS was given an early look at the GAO report and issued a letter to states the day before Thanksgiving regarding the effective use of psychotropic medications among children in foster care.

"Too many states, I'm afraid, just don't know what best practices are," Carper said.

But states have been asking for help for years.

One state official told researchers at Tufts, "[We] need guidelines to determine whether medications are needed and, if so, for how long."

HHS said it will "offer expanded opportunities to states and territories to strengthen their systems of prescribing and monitoring psychotropic medication use among children in foster care."

Dr. Christopher Bellonci, a child psychiatrist and author of a 2010 Tufts study that showed nearly 50 percent of states either didn't have, or were still in the process of developing, policies regarding foster care psychotropic drug use, thinks HHS guidance for states on best practices, while good, are not enough.

Bellonci told ABC News the states should have to report pharmacy claims of actual psychotropic drugs given to foster children.

"We need to be able to benchmark states around one another, then at least it is all public record," Bellonci said.

Background on the Drugs

Antidepressants, anti-anxiety medications, antipsychotics, and mood stabilizers are some of the so-called psychotropic drugs -- psychiatric medicines that alter chemical levels in the brain, which impacts mood and behavior.

Of the psychotropics, antipsychotics, like Ke'onte's Seroquel and others like Abilify, Risperdal, Zyprexa, Geodon, Invega, Latuda, Fanapt, Clozaril, Saphris and Solian, are among the most powerful.

Of all the psychiatric medications, antipsychotics are, by far, the most prescribed, especially for foster children. Foster children are given antipsychotics at a rate nine times higher than children not in foster care, according to a 2010 16-state analysis by Rutgers University of nearly 300,000 foster children.

While doctors aren't exactly sure how or even why antipsychotics work, most experts believe antipsychotics block specific receptors in the brain, which are thought to be overactive in patients with symptoms of psychoses, such as hallucinations and delusions.

Antipsychotics were initially designed for schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. Only Seroquel, Abilify, Risperdal, and Zyprexa have very limited FDA-approval for use in children.

However, antipsychotics are being widely prescribed off-label, meaning for conditions the FDA has not approved them for, for things like agitation, anxiety, acting out, irritability, behavior issues and even as sleeping aids.

Dr. Jeffrey Thompson, chief medical officer for Medicaid in the state of Washington, said, "Nobody gets up in the morning to overdose kids. It just happens that it's a momentum in the system. Kids get aggressively diagnosed and sometimes we look for the easy solution, which is a pill over psychotherapy or better parenting."

Critics charge that, because of their sedating properties, antipsychotics are actually being used in foster care treatment facilities as chemical restraints.

Dr. Fouras is particularly concerned about the use of these drugs as chemical restraints.

"We are trying to put a nice shiny term that sounds [as if] 'oh, we're just restraining the kid,' [when] really what you are doing is just knocking them out to make them less of a problem for you," Fouras said.

This widespread and frequently unchecked use of antipsychotics is concerning considering the serious side effects of these medications. Antipsychotics change a person's metabolism, frequently cause significant weight gain and can increase the risk of diabetes.

In addition to tremors, muscle spasms and restlessness, antipsychotics can cause tardive dyskinesia, a permanent and irreversible condition where a person has involuntary movements of the tongue, lip, mouth, and arms and legs.

While less common with newer antipsychotics, each year 5 percent of people on antipsychotics will develop tardive dyskinesia, according to the National Institute of Mental Health.

Many experts are also concerned about the prolonged use of antipsychotics in children, given there are absolutely no long-term safety studies for their use in children.

Fouras said, "Some of these medications have only been out for 10 to 15 years, so that is not enough time to know what is going to happen over the long term."

World News:http://

News Items / Re: GAO Investigates Drugging Foster Kids
« on: December 01, 2011, 09:59:20 AM »
ABC NEWS November 30, 2011 - Psych Drugs - Kids


News Items / Re: Sweat Lodge "guru" convicted on 3 counts!!!!!!
« on: November 18, 2011, 08:43:30 PM »
Self-help guru gets 2 years in sweat lodge deaths

Read more: http://

Self-help author James Arthur Ray, right, speaks during his sentencing at Yavapai County Courthouse in Prescott, Ariz., Friday, Nov. 18, 2011. Ray received a prison sentence of six years, two years for each of his three victims. Ray was convicted June 22, 2011, on three counts of negligent homicide for the deaths of participants at a sweat-lodge ceremony he held near Sedona in October 2009.

Tacitus' Realm / Re: Tea Baggers Shut the fuck up.
« on: November 17, 2011, 10:33:45 PM »

« on: November 14, 2011, 04:00:57 PM »


April 23rd 2002- April 17th 2009

Tacitus' Realm / Re: What is the economy anyway ??
« on: November 11, 2011, 12:26:22 AM »
Quote from: "Froderik"
Quote from: "starry-eyed pirate"
Quote from: "starry-eyed pirate"
I just think we could vastly improve our own circumstances if everyone could spend 20-30 hours a week supporting themselves directly and then maybe working 15-20 hours a week locally at the community science/medical center or the production warehouse, or the like, so the community could have the goods and services it required.

This sort of economic arrangement would go a long way toward easing class/racial tensions by making the society more egalitarian in general and would at the same time also do a great deal to heal the fractured state of the modern family by placing value on working together as a family unit on the homestead.  


..but what about WAR?!?!??!  We have to keep fighting the enemy!!!  :rofl:  :rocker:  :poison:   :roflmao:  :clown:  :deal:

Vote VERMIN SUPREME and fight tooth decay!

Imaginary enemy's are profitable.

Open Free for All / Re: DANNY BENNISON
« on: November 11, 2011, 12:23:06 AM »
Quote from: "Horatio"
Quote from: "Dannys Shitty Life"

I don't remember him, I never even herd of him, and I remember alot of peep's from back then and i would have rememberd him or at least herd of him.I didn't mean to lash out at him so hard but,back in Elan when one of us was going through a Ring a Paddelling, or a GM,or we saw one of our good freinds get dragged around the room bleeding only to be put through more hell, we couldn't say nothing, we couldn't say Hey stop hitting him/her, or stop the screamming ,let him/her go. We were kids, we were scared we were over powerd. But now I know for myself Iam not a scared little girl anymore and I'am not over powerd and scared to say STOP the shit when I see some one being disrespected. Felice,Mark Matt and Sharon should be commened for all the effort you all have put into closeing down Elan.I know one thing that sure make's me feel good we can now defend ourself's against people like Danny.Thats all I have to say folk's I love you all. NAMASTE
about 5 months ago

Thank you for dragging another of your victims here to testify Danny. You really are an idiot

Felice, Mark, Wayne, Sharon, Matt or who else stumbles around here posting from idiotic usernames. Diane was posting at this time on the "I went to Elan school" facebook site that she didn't even know Danny. You folks were telling everyone who would listen that Danny Bennison was not who he said he was but a shill still working for Elan. As far as you knew Danny was a fake poster.
Now you are saying the opposite.
You can't even keep these posts straight. Can you spell Stupid.
Listen do yourselves a favor have a conference call before you decide to post, get your stories straight.

Felice,Mark Matt and Sharon should be commended for all the effort you all have put into closing down Elan.... :roflmao:  :roflmao:

Riiight !!!!
Felice is in and out of jail, Mark same thing , Matt is a freaking drunk and Sharon it was proven never stepped foot in Elan. Would you all please give us a break.
Surely you can do better then this post.
Danny looks like St.Peter standing besides these clowns.

Come on get your shit together.
:shamrock:  :shamrock:

Open Free for All / Re: Defending Danny B.
« on: November 09, 2011, 02:05:55 PM »
Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
Wayne, Che, Matt, Felice, Mark and K Lynn need to get up here and be accounted for.
Five of you went so far out there with your reputations to support this liar that I thought
you would want some pay back for your dedication.
I say come on a defend Danny, yep that's right.
Because here in a few Wayne is truly going to be looking bad.
Real bad!!!

Just say'in!!

^^^^^"GENERAL MEETING"^^^^^^^^^ :roflmao:

Open Free for All / Re: Defending Danny B.
« on: November 09, 2011, 02:00:03 PM »

While Daniel Lee Bennison was in Cosa-Rica getting his teeth fixed.... :deal:

November 4th
Sandra Carlton wrote:
My nephew attended the Elan School in Maine. Our family can't say enough wonderful things about their program and all of it's staff !! He is currently enrolled in college, doing exceptionally and is "back" to the sweet person we all knew he was when he was younger, he's just a bit older now:) We're a very close family and all of the kids are fairly close in age. It was very difficult for us to have him away from all of us, especially so far away, and for so long. We knew we were losing him anyway, and feared that we would lose him permantly to the lifestyle he was living, so sending him away to school was the only choice. We are eternally greatful to the love and support that he received at this school. I've read alot of the stuff online recently and can only surmise that some of the kids writing this stuff didn't like the rules. I can assure you, on behalf of my family, we would have NEVER left one of our own in this school, for even a second, if we ever felt that in any way this school was abusive. It was a challenging experience for my nephew and we feel blessed to have found this school. If any of the Elan people happen to read this, keep up the great work guys, the work you do is amazing and my nephew is proof. God bless!

What you are reading is by Matt Hoffman, Felice Eliscue, Mark Babbitz, Wayne Kernochan, K Lynn Corning and Sharon McCarthy.
They have compiled a long list of malicious lies to punish me for not agreeing with them on issues concerning the Troubled Teen Industry. Let me say here that everyone of them have never met me personally. Wayne Kernochan Book has been plagiarized from various web sites and people he talked with. This has been authenticated. Wayne Kernochan never went to Elan, this is a fact.
Matt Hoffman (semper fi) was in the program with me but not in the same facility.

Danny Bennison Abuser Too wrote:
<quoted text>
Danny Bennison you were one of the abuser too and still keep contact with Marty and Jeff you brag.
This is not accurate at all.
Semper Fi

Richmond, VA

"Kruglik got a question for you how did it make you feel to give a baseball bat to two residents watching over another resident with the instructions that if he even gives them the slightest hint that he is going to runaway that they are to BEAT him to DEATH on the spot?

Did it make you feel like a real big man or did you feel like the sick serial child abuser that you are?"

This is Matt Hoffman (semper fi)from Richmond Virginia as you can see. Matt and I were both in Elan at the same time but in separate facilities.
What Matt is not explaining to everyone is the reason Marty Kruglick gave a bat to two men and said whacik him if he moves. Matt had just stabbed another resident twice and totally freaked everybody out. I am not defending Marty at all I just wanted everyone to know the circumstances surrounding this crazy incident.
I was still a resident when this attack (stabbing) happened. The person who was stabbed by Matt Hoffman came to the facility I was in and remained till he left Elan. He explained that Matt was prone to this kind of behavior even before he came to Elan.

Sandra Carlton wrote:
My nephew attended the Elan School in Maine. Our family can't say enough wonderful things about their program and all of it's staff !! He is currently enrolled in college, doing exceptionally and is "back" to the sweet person we all knew he was when he was younger, he's just a bit older now:) We're a very close family and all of the kids are fairly close in age. It was very difficult for us to have him away from all of us, especially so far away, and for so long. We knew we were losing him anyway, and feared that we would lose him permantly to the lifestyle he was living, so sending him away to school was the only choice. We are eternally greatful to the love and support that he received at this school. I've read alot of the stuff online recently and can only surmise that some of the kids writing this stuff didn't like the rules. I can assure you, on behalf of my family, we would have NEVER left one of our own in this school, for even a second, if we ever felt that in any way this school was abusive. It was a challenging experience for my nephew and we feel blessed to have found this school. If any of the Elan people happen to read this, keep up the great work guys, the work you do is amazing and my nephew is proof. God bless!
What you are reading is by Matt Hoffman, Felice Eliscue, Mark Babbitz, Wayne Kernochan, K Lynn Corning and Sharon McCarthy.
They have compiled a long list of malicious lies to punish me for not agreeing with them on issues concerning the Troubled Teen Industry. Let me say here that everyone of them have never met me personally. Wayne Kernochan Book has been plagiarized from various web sites and people he talked with. This has been authenticated. Wayne Kernochan never went to Elan, this is a fact.
Matt Hoffman (semper fi) was in the program with me but not in the same facility

Damn Dannny L Bennison has been busy. In his deluded way of thinking coupled by severe paranoia that induces his bazarre conspiracy theories he is absolutely wrong. He is a liar.

The only two items that bennison has posted is that yes Matt did stab another (at age 16and a half 35 years ago) resident and yes Bennison did not know Matt in elan. These are true.

Bennison will distort the truth by lying and lying some more ( the proof is on the internet).

There were not two stabbing incidents by Matt, and Marty Kruglik did not just give the base ball bat to two men right after the stabbing incident incident. Matt had run away fronm the hellhole that was elan, after the incident. He was caught and put in the corner for a month prior to a 4 house tour of general meetings upon which then he was shotdown.

It was at the beginning of this shot down thaty Marty Kruglik gave a baseball bat to two men with the instructions that "if he even gives you the hint that he is going to run away ,you are to beat him to DEATH on the spot " not as the boy liar Bennison says that kruglik said to whack him .

Believe me bennison wasn't there and bennison did not know Matt in elan. Matt had not ever assaulted anyone prior to elan with a knife or any weapon ,bennison lies and just keeps on lying just like the pathological liar that he is.

I don't think that it is possible that anyone could write a book about elan the way Wayne Kernochan has written in his book titled A Life gone Awry:My story about the Elan School with out having been in elan. It is very accurate during my time which was 11 months before Danny L Bennison got there as a matter of fact.

And I know for a fact that there is not enough info on ,or anywhere ,to write a book that accurately portrays the deviant perverted sexual harrassment that the directors , directed towards the adults and children that were residents in this violent ,brutal ,sadistic ,soul eating hell hole that was Elan.

And yes Danny L Bennison you are a liar. You have been banned from many survivor sites because you abuse survivors of abusive programs. I am Matt Hoffman

News Items / Rotenberg: end of shock of 'new admissions'
« on: November 07, 2011, 08:56:31 PM »
BELOW is a forwarded email from Disability Rights International, that
Rotenberg Center has been ordered to stop shocking 'new admissions,'
which is a ....... step in right direction to closing this torture facility.

JRC Banned from Shocking New Admissions

Dear Supporters,

This week we can celebrate a major victory against torture of people
with disabilities in the United States.

The Massachusetts Department of Developmental Services (DDS) adopted
new regulations last week that greatly restrict the intentional use of
pain as a form of treatment - including the use of electric shock,
seclusion, and restraints on young children and adults with
disabilities. As documented by a recent report by Disability Rights
International (DRI), Torture Not Treatment, The Judge Rotenberg Center
(JRC), based in Canton, Massachusetts, has used these practices,
called "aversive treatment" for decades.

Facilities licensed by the DDS in Massachusetts can no longer subject
new admissions to severe behavioral interventions including electric
shock, long-term restraint, or aversives that pose risk for
psychological harm -- in other words, mainstays of JRC's "treatment"

No other institution in the country - or the world, as far as we can
tell - uses such barbaric practices. DRI's investigation found that
the pain caused by this is so severe and outside accepted professional
norms, that these practices constitute nothing less than torture. By
permitting such treatment, the United States violates its obligations
under international law, as defined by the UN Convention Against
Torture. DRI filed our report, Torture Not Treatment, in 2010 as an
urgent appeal to the United Nations. The top official on torture at
the United Nations agreed with DRI, and when asked by ABC Nightline if
the practices were torture, he declared, "Yes...I have no doubts about
it. It is inflicted in a situation where a victim is powerless...a
child in the restraint chair, being then subjected to electric shocks,
how more powerless can you be?"

We applaud Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick on taking a courageous
stand by issuing an executive order for the Massachusetts DDS to
review their policies regarding electric shock and other severe

The resulting new policy puts an end to the use of JRC's electric
shocks on new admissions. But we can't declare success yet. While
hundreds of children will be spared from JRC's behavioral experiments
in the future, the new policies do not stop JRC from shocking and
causing psychological damage to children already placed in the center.
These children and young adults remain prisoners in a very dangerous
environment. The center has been repeatedly investigated for
suspicious deaths and physical abuse. JRC has been fined for
identifying some clinicians hired by the school as psychologists, when
in fact, they were not licensed psychologists. And as a result of an
investigation into a case of abuse at the facility, JRC's director was
forced to resign earlier this year after being charged with misleading
a grand jury about the investigation.

DRI is encouraged by the bold statement by the US National Council on
Disabilities, a federal advisory body, which cited DRI's report, as
well as the international definition of torture, to call for the use
of painful shock aversives to be brought to an end.

DRI urges the Department of Justice and the Obama Administration to
fulfill its obligations under the UN Convention Against Torture. DRI
calls for a blanket ban on the use of electric shock as aversive
treatment for children or adults with disabilities across the nation.
There is nothing stopping JRC from shocking kids already in their
center -- or moving their facility to a different state to avoid the
new Massachusetts regulations. The Department of Justice has an open
investigation into the treatment of children at JRC. We ask you to
write a personal appeal to the investigators to help ensure that this
torture is put to an end once and for all, and is never allowed to be
duplicated anywhere else in the United States.

We are one large step closer.

Thank you for your continued support,

Laurie Ahern,

Eric Rosenthal,
Executive Director

Disability Rights International | 1156 15th Street, NW | Suite 1001 |
Washington | DC | 20005

More info: http://

Open Free for All / Re: Stop and Think Wayne Kernochan!!
« on: November 07, 2011, 08:35:46 PM »
Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
We take this cue from Sigmund Freud,

Before we diagnose ourselves with depression or low self esteem, we first make sure, we are not, in fact, surrounded by assholes.

Wayne, Matt, Mark, Felice, K Lynn need we say more.

We love the fake names guys.

Wayne how is your landlord feel about you this week. I bet he feels fleeced.

Seriously Danny (Daniel Lee Bennison) many times have you hallucinated this one.
None of the above mentioned people give a flying fuck about you.

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