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This will be my last post in this part of fornits, I will still post on the F Q&A thread, but I am done with this crap!  If Che really did out Zen's daughter that is rude and disgusting, but whatever.  If anyone has anything to say about this, my name has always been on here.  I don't hide my identity.  Surviving a program makes a person tough, and Zen, your daughter will survive this too, though she shouldn't have to.  It is obvious from the chosen pic that she has tons of spirit and she will be ok.  She has suffered worse humiliation in program than anyone on here can throw at her. 

Maybe there was an alterior motive behind outting a survivor right now, maybe someone wants everyone to leave fornits in search of a new place or thing.  I am just saying....   

Don't allow yourselves to be herded, I am leaving, but not because of personal attacks, and ccm and I have had our share.  I have a different forum now, which I am not putting out here because not only do I not want to skim people from Ginger's forum, but I don't want the abuse to spill into my new forum.

Peace Out!
Lorri Spickelmire

Facility Question and Answers / Re: Unita Academy, Wellsville, UT
« on: March 01, 2008, 08:23:00 PM »
From reading through what the girls say on the myspace group, this one appears to be fairly harmless, but it bears some watching as they all do because sometimes they start for the right reasons and then greed takes over and pretty soon they are just another moneygrubbing torture pit.

Facility Question and Answers / Re: Roloffs
« on: February 15, 2008, 12:30:56 AM »
When you call the phone number on the old Mt. Park enrollment forms you get, "ABM so and so speaking how may I help you?"  If they changed ownership wouldn't they have changed phone numbers?  I think they are just stearing away from the term corporal punishment.  Do they use the term biblical dicipline, because it is exactly the same thing.

CAN ~ Collective Action Network / PADDLE PROTEST
« on: February 14, 2008, 12:47:47 AM »

Ok, we have new information on the paddle protest.  I know this may be confusing to some of you because we have kicked around several ideas, but here is what we are going to do.  The paddle protest is going to be a 3 part protest.  You do not have to participate in all three parts if you don’t want to, but participation is going to be the key to success for this protest.  The first part of this protest is the paddles in protest of corporal punishment being used against children in these facilities, the second part will be crosses which will be mailed in memory of the children killed in these facilities, the third part is baby booties in respect for the mothers and children separated by these facilities.

1.   Order paddles from the paddle guy, you will have to be creative because he will only send paddles if he thinks you have a child and will 
                use it on them.  The link to the paddle man is
2.   Once you receive your paddle you will want to write some information on it.  You will want to put the name of the facility you were in,
                your name (does not have to be your full name, first name last initial is enough), and also a little information about what kind of corporal
                punishment was used on you, ex… Most swats given to you at one time.
3.   Do not send your paddle until the collective mail date.  We will let you know what day that is at a future time.
               We will be sending these things to the Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey at: U.S. Department of Justice
                                                                                                                                             Attn: Attorney General Mukasey   
                                                                                                                                             950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
                                                                                                                                             Washington, DC 20530-0001
4.   Two weeks from the collective mail date for the paddles we will launch the crosses, and two weeks from then we will launch the baby
                booties.  If you have personal information to send with the booties, or the crosses you can if not I will be posting an update on the
                names and dates we want on the crosses.  With the booties you can just send a message stating that children and mothers have the
                right to be together.  It is illegal to forcibly cause someone to place their child for adoption and the Attorney General should be well
                aware of this issue.

Thank you in advance for your help and participation if you have any questions you can post them here on the YLF forum or email me at [email protected] or post them in our contact us section of our webpage at .

I have heard that the Casa by the Sea compound is reopened under a new name,  anyone have any info on that.  I am curious if it is the same staff, new name, or a whole new monster.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Romney gets ass stomped by McCain
« on: February 08, 2008, 08:30:20 PM »
Great so we get the other fundie bastard who has already promised to bend over and kiss the ass of the American Family Association, which is just the same, but at least he isn't mormon right?  I cant believe anyone in their right mind sees this as anything but a lose lose situation.

CAN ~ Collective Action Network / Re: Teen Challenge
« on: February 08, 2008, 01:03:03 AM »
Teen Challenge is a 12-15 month program ran by the Assemblies of God!  They have had complaints of physical, mental, and spiritual abuse, and have provided endless non-factual statistics about the success rate of  their program. 

Roloff / Re: Roloff Homes Protests
« on: February 08, 2008, 12:58:56 AM »
Absolutely, and thanks for the ideas, any idea who the staff is at the new Casa?

Open Free for All / Re: China, So Far So good
« on: February 08, 2008, 12:55:04 AM »
Cool pics Che, glad you are having fun in the wilds of Asia.  LOL

Facility Question and Answers / Re: Roloffs wiki researcher
« on: January 24, 2008, 01:10:24 AM »
Hey, ABM does not have a staff list, but when you dig in the actual name they give you for the school is Lighthouse Christian Academy, and this name or very similar is being used at homes in two other Roloff associated facilities.  Formerly VCA in Jay FL and New Beginnings old facility in Pace FL.  The website is very closed about who is at the helm though I did copy and download their erollment documents which I intend to compare to Mt. Parks enrollment documents to see what the similarities are.  I am working on the revised list of Roloff Homes, will post it for you soon seeing that we are now over 40 confirmed.

CAN ~ Collective Action Network / Re: Teen Challenge
« on: January 22, 2008, 11:40:51 PM »
Owned an operated by the Asemblies of God church.

Teen Challenge is a 12-15 month program ran by the Assemblies of God!  They have had complaints of physical, mental, and spiritual abuse, and have provided endless non-factual statistics about the success rate of  their program.   Teen challenge incarcerates children for a year or more without due process and without the civil liberties afforded even to prisoners of war.

Roloff / Roloff Homes Protests
« on: January 22, 2008, 11:37:37 PM »
I am planning on protesting Anchor Academy in Montana first week in April and the new boys home in Louisiana in June.  Anyone up to joining me on these or others, let me know.  I will travel to protest Roloff offspring anywhere anyone is willing to protest.

Facility Question and Answers / WWASPS
« on: January 02, 2008, 03:00:14 AM »
Yeah Che, it is, I told you there were connections.  Mike Palmer started out on the Roloff compound in Corpus, then moved on to start his own facilities.  Casa by the sea was only one of them.  The Palmer facilities are part Roloff, part WWASPS, and maybe even part Straight.  I am still digging, this is one of the few connections I have found so far.

Facility Question and Answers / Oh forgot one!
« on: January 01, 2008, 04:18:21 PM »
Casa by the Sea (ran by Mike Palmer)  New Bethany girls home is closed. It was run by the Fords.

In Canada it was common practice at some hospitals to mutilate a birthmother during the delivery to mark her as a birthmother and a whore.  For survivor stories see and to see an exceptionally great video about an exiled mother from Australia, go to:

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