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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Vice article on The Troubled Teen Industry
« on: May 24, 2013, 04:58:48 PM »
Quote from: "blombrowski"
After watching him present, and also observing what his research interests are, and the fact that he has published other peer-reviewed articles, I don't doubt his sincerity or skill as a researcher.

Okay- I'll take your word for it. He's still missing the forest for the trees here, simply by the way he phrased it: "we observed ?ve external barriers to long-term, sustainable change"

Drugs and alcohol are always going to be widely available. These kids' fucked-up families are always going to be fucked up. Some men are always going to look for ways to take advantage of young women, untreated chemical mental illness requires medication, and medication issues need the attention of experienced psychopharmacologists. If any "treatment program" doesn't prepare the people it's "treating" for these influences, then it's fixed precisely nothing. For him to call these "external barriers" instead of the things that actual treatment would have taught them to deal with is simply intellectually dishonest. If "long-term, sustainable change" doesn't survive contact with the real world, it was neither long-term nor sustainable to begin with.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Vice article on The Troubled Teen Industry
« on: May 24, 2013, 04:09:55 PM »
Quote from: "blombrowski"
Then again... I can't find this research paper anywhere except for on the conference agenda where it was presented:

[...]

1) A college party atmosphere glorifying drugs and alcohol

C'mon. You know it's not a serious research paper when they start spewing stuff like this. It's like reading an astronomy paper that mentions the angels that push the heavenly spheres. Whether or not there was any research at all or it was pure make-believe is an open question, but either way, it never passed peer review or any serious scrutiny.

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Presenters: Jacob Hess, Ph.D., Research Director, Utah Youth Village; Eric Bjorklund,
J.D., Executive Director, Utah Youth Village

Really curious which collegiate Cracker Jack box these guys got those degrees out of. Some joke of a college or a straight-up diploma mill?

Some of them are finally starting to realize "this really isn't working" when they look beyond the echo chamber. So they try with their limited faculties to determine what's gone wrong. However, the whole foundation on which they do "science" is complete bullshit, so they can't get real answers and wouldn't recognize them if they did.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Vice article on The Troubled Teen Industry
« on: May 24, 2013, 12:36:25 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
She never bothered to spend any time inside a program gathering facts.

Because they would have totally let her do that.

Quote from: "Whooter"
What it takes to pull me through

Wasn't this thoroughly debunked as regurgitated nonsense? Because I distinctly remember exactly that. In fact, I distinctly remember you being banned. Multiple times, IIRC. Looks like everything's being resurrected, except WWASPS, Aspen, and all the kids in this list, of course.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Spring Ridge Academy
« on: December 31, 2012, 03:11:05 AM »
Holy fuck, are you seriously this stupid? Is this the creation of a spambot, or did you actually go and say "I know, I'll advertise my program on FORNITS!" What the fuck is wrong with you? Do you expect anyone to take you seriously?

"These were not just any girls, these were SRA girls"

Ah, definitely not a parent then. Only a programmie could see this kind of identity mutilation as a good thing.

The rest is just such boilerplate bullcrap that it's not even worth addressing.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: MONARCH ACADEMY, MONTANA
« on: June 05, 2012, 03:26:44 AM »
Quote from: "Goodlife"
I graduated from Monarch and would not be successful if it were not for the personal and family work I experienced. I know that some want to put it down but it seems a lot of those posts are from ex-students who never completed the school for one reason or another. I've met other students from different programs and am so happy my parents picked Monarch School.

Haven't seen one of these in a while. 3/10

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Campain: Save Victoria From Diamond Ranch Academy
« on: May 13, 2012, 01:50:33 PM »
Some girl is getting sent to fucking DRA on June 1, and your post here is to make people sign a fucking petition?

Who is she? Where does she live? Who is her father? Where does he work? How about the judge? Who is he? Is it possible for someone to file an amicus curiae in this and let the judge know what this shithole is really like?

Drop some dox and some of us might be able to do something. Before then, you can keep your worthless petitions which nobody gives a fuck about.

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: TB grad/Ryan Pink
« on: April 22, 2012, 09:00:11 PM »
Buzzkill, do you have ANY conception of automated spam?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Suspect charged with killing man who led center for trou
« on: April 11, 2012, 11:34:52 PM »
4:1 odds it was revenge.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Fornits has helped save yet another teen from an RTC
« on: March 22, 2012, 02:55:25 PM »
Tell him to have the kid start posting here. He'd learn something and he'd fit right in.

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Facility Question and Answers / Re: Chrysalis School
« on: March 10, 2012, 10:25:17 AM »
Quote from: "Antigen"
Weird spam, though...

I've seen this kind of thing before. Basically, some monkey is paid a few cents per message to post something vaguely on-topic with a spam link to confuse the administrator into not deleting it. Best thing to do is just delete it and delete the account.

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Facility Question and Answers / Re: Chrysalis School
« on: March 09, 2012, 12:51:17 PM »
Spam.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: A Former Judge Rotenberg Center Worker Speaks Out
« on: February 21, 2012, 11:35:25 AM »
That happened ten years ago. How has this place been open for that long? Why is the video not yet released?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Girl dies at Divine Guidance Integrative Services, March
« on: January 17, 2012, 05:53:24 PM »
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"...Girl, do you know how much EMS cost..."

More than her life was worth, apparently.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Summit Preparatory School
« on: January 02, 2012, 09:50:26 AM »
I honestly can't tell if this is somebody's idea of a troll, Lon Woodbury hired a company to spam for him and didn't tell them not to go to Fornits, or he's unfathomably stupid enough to post this shit himself.

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News Items / Re: Teen on life support after assault at children's home
« on: December 30, 2011, 07:41:58 AM »
Looks like the term "One Way Home" just took on a new meaning.

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